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November 27, 2020, 10:30:53 PM
#75
I love to play poker too and usually when I get 4 of a kind cards depending on the number or straight flush then I will go all in. This is what I am always winning at poker and I feel lucky if I had this cards. However it may also sometimes difficult to obtain and get coward sometimes when someone will call huge bet. Poker is an easy game to play but the problem is that you can get emotional in the process of betting either you need to let go of your decisions to call or not every roundswl with bets that can go higher and higher each round and that is one pressure you could get when playing poker.
You are not trained to play pro so it is okay, my advice is not to go all in when you get a good card, try to bet little by little to bait the other players into thinking that you are bluffing, when you get that kind of card, it is always worth it to lose your money. You can watch pro players held a high hand and bait others into playing all the way.
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November 27, 2020, 07:19:41 PM
#74
That facial expression tells something about his card that and sometimes I'll take that opportunity but if we are facing professional gamblers, you can just see them in calm. And it finds also that reading those emotions and facial expressions can't help you to win, what we need is to have luck.
Well, those skills had something to help since not all the times you will have a winning card.

You should keep in mind that experienced players are able to keep calm when playing poker and it is difficult to guess anything from their face. Besides, I think everyone knows how to make a happy face when you have bad cards in your hand. This is one of the stages of bluffing.
In any case, if players often play together, they can notice some features of the opponent's behavior, which help to guess which cards are in his hands.
That is really hard when you are facing these kinds of gamblers and only our last chance to win is to have luck. However, if you are very much experienced in poker, it is not really important. What we need for now is to apply what we have learned from the past, make use of our skills and strategies well. Maybe they are good at hiding their emotions but we are not sure as well if they are good enough in handling their cards in the hard scenario because that would be the last way to make win otherwise, we lose.

Perks of being a poker player as much leisure time as she/he has that's why some of them were already developed their own tactics how to defeat their opponents. Poker probability combinations only shows the different combinations of playing poker but in the real game the tactics of one player were literally the dominant moves of them that they guess will make them win. And some of odds of winning also were due to luck.
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November 27, 2020, 05:24:56 PM
#73
I played poker the day before yesterday. On the River I got a Straight with a senior card of a jack which was on my hand. Above could turn out only a Flash provided that the opponent has 2 cards of one suit in a hand, but the chance of falling out of similar is extremely small. So I boldly pressed all-in. He answered. Guess what he had on his hand?

Lol.

"is extremely small". If we have for example 3 cards of one suite on table, that's means that 10 still on the deck. You have two on your hands, so the probability that opponent has 2 cards of the same suite in his hands - pretty high.

For example, you don't have the same suite on your hand. And we have 5 cards on the table (River) with 3 of one suite. So, it is still 45 cards on the deck. How many ways to get 2 cards from this amount? Binomial coefficient (45, 2) which is 990. And how many ways to get 2 cards of the same suite? (10, 2) it is like 45

45 / 990 = 4.5 % (which is pretty high in poker)

Another way to count:

First card to get has prob as 10/45 = 0.22
And second 9/44 (first one is already taken) is approximately 0.2

And we need to get first card AND second. so it will be like 0.22 * 0.2 and it will be als0 4.5 % (you will get this percent if you will count more precise)

5 % it's too high chance man
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November 27, 2020, 03:36:17 PM
#72
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It is a bit of everything, in the long run as you mention the situations or the different types of games lead you to use all this information.

It is not just a question of knowing a percentage, the opening ranges are very important when you are starting to play poker and they are of great help, but knowing with which ranges to play in certain situations you don't learn it with a data table, but the skills or experience.

In my case, the data that I am most attached to regardless of situations or tournaments is the pot-odds table.

Poker allinBlack Friday odds for you Globb0  Cool

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To: OP.
Actually, the OP's table, is more a statistical information than a determining action in your game.

Exactly on this last point from the FamososMuertos

A hero of mine keeping me honest!


Say in a 9 had game it really depends on your seat. still even further than that if you are at a table where no one ever raises and they all check in? you might as well see cards every hand.

So many variables.

The more confident I get the more I miss the odd crazy obvious enemy destroy me hand like a straight
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November 27, 2020, 03:25:52 PM
#71
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It is a bit of everything, in the long run as you mention the situations or the different types of games lead you to use all this information.

It is not just a question of knowing a percentage, the opening ranges are very important when you are starting to play poker and they are of great help, but knowing with which ranges to play in certain situations you don't learn it with a data table, but the skills or experience.

In my case, the data that I am most attached to regardless of situations or tournaments is the pot-odds table.

Poker allinBlack Friday odds for you Globb0  Cool

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To: OP.
Actually, the OP's table, is more a statistical information than a determining action in your game.
legendary
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November 27, 2020, 06:24:04 AM
#70
What I was thinking of was more something like this



I would actually use that or similar in very fast small stacked hyper games.

Like 16(4)    2x knock out

There is no time for poker patience, you really just need to wey up your hand. The visual helps assign a value for me


 
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November 27, 2020, 05:26:45 AM
#69
You should keep in mind that experienced players are able to keep calm when playing poker and it is difficult to guess anything from their face. Besides, I think everyone knows how to make a happy face when you have bad cards in your hand. This is one of the stages of bluffing.
In any case, if players often play together, they can notice some features of the opponent's behavior, which help to guess which cards are in his hands.
well I totally agree with what you say but it only works when you are gambling face to face and face to face with other players, but if everything is done online and cannot read facial expressions it will be difficult to know the expressions of other gamblers.

Of course, what I have told you only applies to games at the same table next to each other. If you play online, there is no point in controlling your emotions. It is enough for you not to show your cards when you win in cases where it is possible. Let your opponents guess whether you were bluffing or not.

That is really hard when you are facing these kinds of gamblers and only our last chance to win is to have luck. However, if you are very much experienced in poker, it is not really important. What we need for now is to apply what we have learned from the past, make use of our skills and strategies well. Maybe they are good at hiding their emotions but we are not sure as well if they are good enough in handling their cards in the hard scenario because that would be the last way to make win otherwise, we lose.

I have never played at the same table in offline tournaments so it is difficult for me to compare. However, I quite often play poker at the same table with my friends, these people know me for many many years. It seems to me that the hardest thing is to keep emotions with those people who know you well.
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November 27, 2020, 04:25:20 AM
#68
That facial expression tells something about his card that and sometimes I'll take that opportunity but if we are facing professional gamblers, you can just see them in calm. And it finds also that reading those emotions and facial expressions can't help you to win, what we need is to have luck.
Well, those skills had something to help since not all the times you will have a winning card.

You should keep in mind that experienced players are able to keep calm when playing poker and it is difficult to guess anything from their face. Besides, I think everyone knows how to make a happy face when you have bad cards in your hand. This is one of the stages of bluffing.
In any case, if players often play together, they can notice some features of the opponent's behavior, which help to guess which cards are in his hands.
That is really hard when you are facing these kinds of gamblers and only our last chance to win is to have luck. However, if you are very much experienced in poker, it is not really important. What we need for now is to apply what we have learned from the past, make use of our skills and strategies well. Maybe they are good at hiding their emotions but we are not sure as well if they are good enough in handling their cards in the hard scenario because that would be the last way to make win otherwise, we lose.
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November 26, 2020, 11:05:25 PM
#67
You should keep in mind that experienced players are able to keep calm when playing poker and it is difficult to guess anything from their face. Besides, I think everyone knows how to make a happy face when you have bad cards in your hand. This is one of the stages of bluffing.
In any case, if players often play together, they can notice some features of the opponent's behavior, which help to guess which cards are in his hands.
well I totally agree with what you say but it only works when you are gambling face to face and face to face with other players, but if everything is done online and cannot read facial expressions it will be difficult to know the expressions of other gamblers.
Yeah, they will have a chance to identify their opponent's behavior if they often play together. But for a player who doesn't always play together or don't meet for some time, they can improve their skills or hide their card, making it difficult for us to know if they have a good or bad card. I am sure that if they are pro poker game, they can bluffing their opponent with many things, so their opponent will speculate that the pro player will have a good card. The probability for a pro poker player to get a win will be bigger than the other player, but that will not guarantee that they can always win on every round because if their opponent has their luck, they can also bluffing the pro poker player. In the poker game, we will have the opportunity to become pro poker players if we can learn many poker lessons.
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November 26, 2020, 10:53:23 PM
#66
I love to play poker too and usually when I get 4 of a kind cards depending on the number or straight flush then I will go all in. This is what I am always winning at poker and I feel lucky if I had this cards. However it may also sometimes difficult to obtain and get coward sometimes when someone will call huge bet. Poker is an easy game to play but the problem is that you can get emotional in the process of betting either you need to let go of your decisions to call or not every roundswl with bets that can go higher and higher each round and that is one pressure you could get when playing poker.
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November 26, 2020, 10:00:30 PM
#65
When playing poker I don't stare at the emotions of opponents, because many people know how to bluff very well, and the real emotions in poker show only beginners. I rely only on a combination of my cards, because this is the only way to calculate your chances to win.

Those people who claim to read emotions in poker are likely to play at the table with people they know well, whose emotions they have learned to understand. Playing with a stranger is difficult to understand his emotions.
Well most players knew this tactic as well, it kind of signifies that the player staring is unsure on his/her cards. It can be done with strangers to be honest but that requires training yourself about body language and observing their way of entering the table. This is not applicable in online poker though because there is no human interaction happening, although pseudo tensions can build up online when there is only 2 players left on the table aiming for the pot.
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November 26, 2020, 06:43:11 PM
#64
That facial expression tells something about his card that and sometimes I'll take that opportunity but if we are facing professional gamblers, you can just see them in calm. And it finds also that reading those emotions and facial expressions can't help you to win, what we need is to have luck.
Well, those skills had something to help since not all the times you will have a winning card.

You should keep in mind that experienced players are able to keep calm when playing poker and it is difficult to guess anything from their face. Besides, I think everyone knows how to make a happy face when you have bad cards in your hand. This is one of the stages of bluffing.
In any case, if players often play together, they can notice some features of the opponent's behavior, which help to guess which cards are in his hands.
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November 26, 2020, 06:28:01 PM
#63
When playing poker I don't stare at the emotions of opponents, because many people know how to bluff very well, and the real emotions in poker show only beginners. I rely only on a combination of my cards, because this is the only way to calculate your chances to win.

Those people who claim to read emotions in poker are likely to play at the table with people they know well, whose emotions they have learned to understand. Playing with a stranger is difficult to understand his emotions.
That facial expression tells something about his card that and sometimes I'll take that opportunity but if we are facing professional gamblers, you can just see them in calm. And it finds also that reading those emotions and facial expressions can't help you to win, what we need is to have luck.
Well, those skills had something to help since not all the times you will have a winning card.



Emotions can tell whether you're holding the luck of a opponent, that why it needs also skills in controlling your acts. This game can be a fatal pretentious being towards your enemy of the game, lucky winners will get a full rewards as long you've survived. Decision making is very important, and it can be case to case basis and no formula on that.
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November 26, 2020, 06:05:19 PM
#62
When playing poker I don't stare at the emotions of opponents, because many people know how to bluff very well, and the real emotions in poker show only beginners. I rely only on a combination of my cards, because this is the only way to calculate your chances to win.

Those people who claim to read emotions in poker are likely to play at the table with people they know well, whose emotions they have learned to understand. Playing with a stranger is difficult to understand his emotions.
That facial expression tells something about his card that and sometimes I'll take that opportunity but if we are facing professional gamblers, you can just see them in calm. And it finds also that reading those emotions and facial expressions can't help you to win, what we need is to have luck.
Well, those skills had something to help since not all the times you will have a winning card.

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November 26, 2020, 03:53:00 PM
#61
Knowing these probabilities might be helpful to assess your exact chances of beating the opponent, however, I don't see much point in memorizing or copying them somewhere and keeping in sight during the game (maybe if you're a beginner). The thing is - if you're a regular player you realize all that intuitively. For instance, I never had a clue what's the probability of being dealt a pair or three of a kind, but it has always been obvious that the latter one is much cooler Cheesy

On the contrary, I think that some kind of dynamic probabilities may come in handy. I mean some kind of guides or calculators (even better) that would show you how the probabilities of holding a certain card will change depending on your decisions (especially useful when you decide whether or not to discard your cards, and if yes - which ones), because in this case, things might be less apparent. Sadly, I've never seen anything of the like.
It was not my intent in the first place, I posted it here because I want to see if there are other people that might be curious behind the math that is happening when they are playing poker. I do believe too that there isn't a need to analyze it on this level. I do not think that they will allow this table to show on games because anything that has numbers and percentages are eyebrow raising, does not matter if it helps or not, it will be a problem in game. They are using this probability calculator on poker games, especially the tournament ones for the viewers to see whether the player has the advantage or not.

I played poker the day before yesterday. On the River I got a Straight with a senior card of a jack which was on my hand. Above could turn out only a Flash provided that the opponent has 2 cards of one suit in a hand, but the chance of falling out of similar is extremely small. So I boldly pressed all-in. He answered. Guess what he had on his hand?
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November 26, 2020, 10:04:21 AM
#60
When playing poker I don't stare at the emotions of opponents, because many people know how to bluff very well, and the real emotions in poker show only beginners. I rely only on a combination of my cards, because this is the only way to calculate your chances to win.

Those people who claim to read emotions in poker are likely to play at the table with people they know well, whose emotions they have learned to understand. Playing with a stranger is difficult to understand his emotions.
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November 26, 2020, 09:27:16 AM
#59
these odds are useful to knows how much is probable a certain set of cards.
for a certain point of view this explain how poker is a math game, where you should always calculate odds probability ecc ecc for several hours in a tournament!
At a certain level is a professional game that requires hours and hours of previous training.
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November 26, 2020, 08:17:22 AM
#58
Emotions are a recipe for losses in poker. The moment you are beginning to shake or show some signs of doubt is the time your opponent reads you very clearly. They will play on you.

This is absolutely true. Personally I think I am a good poker player when playing for low stakes. But playing for high stakes, even though I know that rationally it's exactly the same, I find myself being too risk-averse, and probably—although it's obviously difficult for me to tell—quite easy to read.

That's so me as well. If I play with close friends, I think I am very hard to read. I can easily show my best poker face. I can smile widely and bluff my way even though I don't have even a pair. I don't shake also. But when I play with other people who I don't personally know and especially if the buy-in is particularly high, it's like the game is becoming serious and I grow more conscious and easy to read.
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November 26, 2020, 05:00:12 AM
#57
This is absolutely true. Personally I think I am a good poker player when playing for low stakes. But playing for high stakes, even though I know that rationally it's exactly the same, I find myself being too risk-averse, and probably—although it's obviously difficult for me to tell—quite easy to read.
You might experiencing something in the realm of Sudden Wealth Syndrome, it isn't exactly the same but the nerves that are getting you is similar in a way. I think a good training to steel your nerves is what is best for you, constant exposure to high stakes game and playing in the is an expensive yet effective training, meditation by far is the best you can do if you want to acquire a steel nerve.
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November 26, 2020, 04:18:56 AM
#56
Emotions are a recipe for losses in poker. The moment you are beginning to shake or show some signs of doubt is the time your opponent reads you very clearly. They will play on you.

This is absolutely true. Personally I think I am a good poker player when playing for low stakes. But playing for high stakes, even though I know that rationally it's exactly the same, I find myself being too risk-averse, and probably—although it's obviously difficult for me to tell—quite easy to read.
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