I really suck in uderstanding this kind of of probability even if I love playing poker though in my cases I am not into 5 cards instead I am into 2 cards only.
So I guess, I cannot use this probability to my advantage but if it can be applied also to 2 cards then I will try my best to understand it and use it to my advantage if possible. But I am hoping that I will not get any headache before I can understand how I can get an advantage by understanding these probability as there are percentage that I am having a difficulty in understanding.
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That's great,but what's the point of sharing this info.Do you want to teach us how to play poker? 
Did you copy pasted this info from somewhere?Can you mention the source?
I'm not interested in math and I don't care about the probability of getting a particular hand,when I play poker."Psychological" elements like having patience,persistence,and the ability to decide when to play aggressively and when to quit and the the ability to bluff are more interesting to me.
Did you copy pasted this info from somewhere?Can you mention the source?
I'm not interested in math and I don't care about the probability of getting a particular hand,when I play poker."Psychological" elements like having patience,persistence,and the ability to decide when to play aggressively and when to quit and the the ability to bluff are more interesting to me.
There are many courses online to learn how to play poker. There are plenty of different poker variants out there and you also need to decide if you want to go into tournaments or prefer cash games. Watching a few tutorials online from YouTube can definitely help to make up your mind. But in my opinion to really learn a game you will need to put in the hours and actually play. Maybe try with play money first.
But what are your sources for those probabilities please? Is it a personal work? Did you count them yourself? If it's a personal observation they are maybe not totally universal
its hard to get a good combination but its easy to get a common cards or bad combination .
i played poker and card games on a crypto casino and on the side they will put the probability for each card and combination , theres no major difference from this table made by op .
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Just wanted to share this info to others who might be curious about the math behind poker, obviously you are not one of them. The source is copied in Wikipedia, not many goes to search there so I had an inkling to search it and share it as some might be interested in it. There is an article about psychological elements of poker if I am right, you can search for it.I think you have a nice share here, math behind poker, but it's just a half of the story, or to say one side of the poker! Psychology is the other part, and to have a complete story you should include it in your post!
Math is easy to handle, you learn your odds pretty fast! But when in comes to live game with other people, in some hand's psychology is more important than math!
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That's great,but what's the point of sharing this info.Do you want to teach us how to play poker?
Did you copy pasted this info from somewhere?Can you mention the source?
I'm not interested in math and I don't care about the probability of getting a particular hand,when I play poker."Psychological" elements like having patience,persistence,and the ability to decide when to play aggressively and when to quit and the the ability to bluff are more interesting to me.
Just wanted to share this info to others who might be curious about the math behind poker, obviously you are not one of them. The source is copied in Wikipedia, not many goes to search there so I had an inkling to search it and share it as some might be interested in it. There is an article about psychological elements of poker if I am right, you can search for it. Did you copy pasted this info from somewhere?Can you mention the source?
I'm not interested in math and I don't care about the probability of getting a particular hand,when I play poker."Psychological" elements like having patience,persistence,and the ability to decide when to play aggressively and when to quit and the the ability to bluff are more interesting to me.
That's great,but what's the point of sharing this info.Do you want to teach us how to play poker?
Did you copy pasted this info from somewhere?Can you mention the source?
I'm not interested in math and I don't care about the probability of getting a particular hand,when I play poker."Psychological" elements like having patience,persistence,and the ability to decide when to play aggressively and when to quit and the the ability to bluff are more interesting to me.
Did you copy pasted this info from somewhere?Can you mention the source?
I'm not interested in math and I don't care about the probability of getting a particular hand,when I play poker."Psychological" elements like having patience,persistence,and the ability to decide when to play aggressively and when to quit and the the ability to bluff are more interesting to me.
I take it that table is talking about getting those hands at the flop if you play Texas Holdem or before discarding if you play 5-card draw.
One thing I've learned over the years is that unlikely events occur.
The likelihood of those hands is not as important as how strong is your hand compared to your rival's.
According to the table, a straight has 0.3925% chance to occur and a flopped flush 0.1965%. I see flopped straights or flushes almost every day.
If you play a couple of thousand hands a day on average you are going to see a lot of those unlikely events to occur.
One thing I've learned over the years is that unlikely events occur.
The likelihood of those hands is not as important as how strong is your hand compared to your rival's.
According to the table, a straight has 0.3925% chance to occur and a flopped flush 0.1965%. I see flopped straights or flushes almost every day.
If you play a couple of thousand hands a day on average you are going to see a lot of those unlikely events to occur.
The "just" has now triggered me 
I like to play poker both in real life and online, and I can count the hands I've lost on a full house on one hand.
Of course, there is still the chance that someone has an even better hand, but the probability is extremely low. So a Full House is almost a guaranteed win of a round.
I do agree with full house guaranteeing a win, the other upper hand cards are more rare to show on a player's hands, most of the time, the only hands that can defeat a full house is another higher card full house. I like to play poker both in real life and online, and I can count the hands I've lost on a full house on one hand.
Of course, there is still the chance that someone has an even better hand, but the probability is extremely low. So a Full House is almost a guaranteed win of a round.
The "just" has now triggered me
I like to play poker both in real life and online, and I can count the hands I've lost on a full house on one hand.
Of course, there is still the chance that someone has an even better hand, but the probability is extremely low. So a Full House is almost a guaranteed win of a round.
I do agree with full house guaranteeing a win, the other upper hand cards are more rare to show on a player's hands, most of the time, the only hands that can defeat a full house is another higher card full house. I like to play poker both in real life and online, and I can count the hands I've lost on a full house on one hand.
Of course, there is still the chance that someone has an even better hand, but the probability is extremely low. So a Full House is almost a guaranteed win of a round.
to be honest, i've seen that table calculation since 2016 , and for sure, its not helping much. since its back to your mentality as well, low pair card got raise by 1/2 total chips, i just folded, eventhough i know chance for get 3 of kind or two pair is close already.
It's one of the most exciting card to have especially if only two guys are remaining are on that phase. You can win with the weakest card that you have by simply bluffing, that's all. I mostly bluff if my cards are weak, it's fun yet there are also good players that you can't scare.nah , i will not take a risk, before, I was also the one who bluffed a lot, even with bad card, but i just learned from youtube how to play safety, since i just play on tournament, its kinda funny if u just playing for 5 minutes on tournament.
I wondered some time ago whether the following improvement to poker websites could be implemented: each player sees the probability of her/his hand and the probability of someone else having a better one. Can this be properly counted, taking into account not the cards which are open on the table and those the player currently holds? Would it be useful?
I think this is a cheat, really, I'd not be in favour as it takes away some of the player's expertise. It's like if there was also an on-screen counter showing running percentages of how often each player has bluffed.
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as lucky even though your cards is just a full house because the probability of getting it is just 0.17%
The "just" has now triggered me as lucky even though your cards is just a full house because the probability of getting it is just 0.17%
I like to play poker both in real life and online, and I can count the hands I've lost on a full house on one hand.
Of course, there is still the chance that someone has an even better hand, but the probability is extremely low. So a Full House is almost a guaranteed win of a round.
Thanks for the share OP.
I learned poker and successfully improved my strategy as I progress but I'm not aware of that.
But yes, just to show the probability of numbers about this game.
Even they somehow know the probability to win, the key to win is proper execution. That's why even with good cards, it's not an assurance of an easy win.
It is really the execution that can help us to win in poker, I prefer to play poker in real life where it considered as traditional gambling because you are playing physically. The excitement and the feeling is really different for me because I also play poker in different gambling sites where I considered as boring because I do not feel the excitement that I felt playing it physically. When you are playing in real life, you can observe your opponent’s where it can give you an idea on what they are thinking and what cards are they holding. I actually like the thread because this is also the first time for me to see and understand the probability where in you can considered as lucky even though your cards is just a full house because the probability of getting it is just 0.17% I learned poker and successfully improved my strategy as I progress but I'm not aware of that.
But yes, just to show the probability of numbers about this game.
Do you think the professional poker players memorized this? Does this increase the chances of determining the correct hands of the other players?
Even they somehow know the probability to win, the key to win is proper execution. That's why even with good cards, it's not an assurance of an easy win.
This is why I never win playing with poker, bad odds, bad at bluffing ain't got no future for this game lol.
You must be overconfident in doing these, a do-or-die decision, so as not to give your opponent to think that your bluffing.
Do you think the professional poker players memorized this? Does this increase the chances of determining the correct hands of the other players?
Surely they don't memorize this in order to increase your chance of winning. I've watched some poker matches where the poorest hands are able to get the other player with better cards to fold with their bluffing skills. Even Kevin Hart did it succesfuly. The odds will be the same no matter how you memorize this table, it's a mix game of skill and luck as OP said, skills to bluff and luck for cards, that's what makes you win poker base on what I learn from watching videos and reading OPs post.
Sometimes this is more of a psychological game, but if you are good at analyzing those cards you may have a better chance of winning. The more cards are open, the better the probability that you can compare with your on hand and determine the odds for winning. Skill and luck is really a deadly ingredient combination to win.
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That's correct. Professional poker players do not just automatically fold if they have very poor hands. As always mentioned, poker games are not just about luck. If you are given 3 of diamonds and 9 of hearts, it doesn't mean you no longer have to play the game. But they must also have rough ideas as to their opponent cards.
Hehe this is not really the case when the minimum bet to start the round are quite high. I would probably agree with your statement if they will just call or check and nobody else raises but that rarely happens in a professional tournament does it? I've watched some live actions before and cards like that are usually folded in an instant.That's correct. Professional poker players do not just automatically fold if they have very poor hands. As always mentioned, poker games are not just about luck. If you are given 3 of diamonds and 9 of hearts, it doesn't mean you no longer have to play the game. But they must also have rough ideas as to their opponent cards.
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Try to watch full poker tourney. Pro usually fold when they have a very weak hands. They didn't even consider to bluff.
This. Try to watch full poker tourney. Pro usually fold when they have a very weak hands. They didn't even consider to bluff.
Do you think the professional poker players memorized this? Does this increase the chances of determining the correct hands of the other players?
Even they somehow know the probability to win, the key to win is proper execution. That's why even with good cards, it's not an assurance of an easy win.
That's correct. Professional poker players do not just automatically fold if they have very poor hands. As always mentioned, poker games are not just about luck. If you are given 3 of diamonds and 9 of hearts, it doesn't mean you no longer have to play the game. But they must also have rough ideas as to their opponent cards.
That's true but it varies in different situation. Just like on Poker All Star table. They all know each other that they are all Pro, so bluffing to a master that knows the probability like Daniel and Phil Ivy will not gonna work because this guy surely eat alive the bluffer if they really holding the strong hand.
I know many user above considering the bluffing in poker because it is what always see during the highlights, But in reality, the chance that you can see a bluff is very rare in real poker scene because once you caught bluffing, You never use that again on same table or else you will burn. Most of the poker player memorized the probability that's why they can easily assess whether they will still call or not.
Try to watch full poker tourney. Pro usually fold when they have a very weak hands. They didn't even consider to bluff.
So my answer to your question is no, they do not memorize this table but they do know about it for sure, they just don't pay it heed and I do not think it raises the chance of determining the other players hand except Negreneau, that dude seems to have x-ray vision.
I saw his masterclass in an ad and it seems pretty convincing to learn how he does stuff. Knowing that he has achievements and titles to brag about, he is a very good player. I guess he just played so much that he knows instinctively what the other players "could" have. It's still a matter of experience for sure.Surely they don't memorize this in order to increase your chance of winning. I've watched some poker matches where the poorest hands are able to get the other player with better cards to fold with their bluffing skills. Even Kevin Hart did it succesfuly. The odds will be the same no matter how you memorize this table, it's a mix game of skill and luck as OP said, skills to bluff and luck for cards, that's what makes you win poker base on what I learn from watching videos and reading OPs post.
That's the best and important skill that you can have, the best poker face in the world. Making you hard to read and never reveal your true emotion. It's possible that they know it in a different way, like the possible hands that players could have.That's correct. Professional poker players do not just automatically fold if they have very poor hands. As always mentioned, poker games are not just about luck. If you are given 3 of diamonds and 9 of hearts, it doesn't mean you no longer have to play the game. But they must also have rough ideas as to their opponent cards.
That's just the "Fundamentals Of" the game. Lol. It includes the bluffing part and making them know that you have an amazing hand. Do your best in risk-taking, right? Show it and sell it. 
I play poker but not competitively and I'm not a professional. But to see this stats about the cumulative probability, it makes sense as to why I always get the high card. From my experience, a kicker can change the result and can beat a confident player.
to be honest, i've seen that table calculation since 2016 , and for sure, its not helping much. since its back to your mentality as well, low pair card got raise by 1/2 total chips, i just folded, eventhough i know chance for get 3 of kind or two pair is close already.
It's one of the most exciting card to have especially if only two guys are remaining are on that phase. You can win with the weakest card that you have by simply bluffing, that's all. I mostly bluff if my cards are weak, it's fun yet there are also good players that you can't scare. Do you think the professional poker players memorized this? Does this increase the chances of determining the correct hands of the other players?
Even they somehow know the probability to win, the key to win is proper execution. That's why even with good cards, it's not an assurance of an easy win.
That's correct. Professional poker players do not just automatically fold if they have very poor hands. As always mentioned, poker games are not just about luck. If you are given 3 of diamonds and 9 of hearts, it doesn't mean you no longer have to play the game. But they must also have rough ideas as to their opponent cards.
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