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to be honest, i've seen that table calculation since 2016 , and for sure, its not helping much. since its back to your mentality as well, low pair card got raise by 1/2 total chips, i just folded, eventhough i know chance for get 3 of kind or two pair is close already.
~ Not sure if people will find it useful, but I've expanded that table to include how likely each hand is compared to the immediately better hand (in the row above) and to all better hands (all rows above). We can see for example that the biggest jump in likelihood is Four of a Kind, which is x17 more likely than a Straight Flush, and x15.6 more likely than any better hand (Straight Flush or Royal Flush). It's interesting to note that High Card is roughly as likely as all better hands... so everything being equal, if you have High Card and you're playing against a single opponent, it's roughly 50-50 whether he is also relying on High Card.
This is why I never win playing with poker, bad odds, bad at bluffing ain't got no future for this game lol. I'm also like that when I started. Once you play more experience will teach you. You can also copy how other players bluff. Somehow, it works too. It's a battle of non-blinking eyes with smiles of evil intent. OP, great post. Thanks for the numbers. I don't really rely much on this but it may help once in a while. Will be keeping this in my notes. Well, the math is pretty straightforward tbh. I'd disagree with this. Whilst we can calculate the static odds of a certain hand, it is extremely difficult to calculate on-the-fly, in the middle of a game, what your chances are of getting a certain hand - and of other players getting certain hands. The people-reading is certainly a key part of being a successful player, but the ability to even approximate the odds in the middle of a game is a vital vital skill. I think I'm an okay poker player, not bad but not great, and I do try to estimate very rough odds whilst games are in progress - it is an extremely difficult challenge. I wondered some time ago whether the following improvement to poker websites could be implemented: each player sees the probability of her/his hand and the probability of someone else having a better one. Can this be properly counted, taking into account not the cards which are open on the table and those the player currently holds? Would it be useful? I think this is a cheat, really, I'd not be in favour as it takes away some of the player's expertise. It's like if there was also an on-screen counter showing running percentages of how often each player has bluffed.
Thanks for sharing this. Remembering the odds is very important to assess how good your hand is and how likely someone else is to have a better one. I found this data and while the probabilities are strikingly close, there's a tiny difference. Could you or someone else explain why?
I wondered some time ago whether the following improvement to poker websites could be implemented: each player sees the probability of her/his hand and the probability of someone else having a better one. Can this be properly counted, taking into account not the cards which are open on the table and those the player currently holds? Would it be useful?
This is why I never win playing with poker, bad odds, bad at bluffing ain't got no future for this game lol.
Do you think the professional poker players memorized this? Does this increase the chances of determining the correct hands of the other players? Surely they don't memorize this in order to increase your chance of winning. I've watched some poker matches where the poorest hands are able to get the other player with better cards to fold with their bluffing skills. Even Kevin Hart did it succesfuly. The odds will be the same no matter how you memorize this table, it's a mix game of skill and luck as OP said, skills to bluff and luck for cards, that's what makes you win poker base on what I learn from watching videos and reading OPs post.
Well, the math is pretty straightforward tbh. It's also rather easy to understand since the truth that numbers don't lie is oddly the truth in most luck-based games. Just that said numbers can go on and on until it meets the said odds, so it isn't really a helpful notion to rely on at times. Heck, it shouldn't even be used as a basis whenever playing since knowing doesn't really help in bringing those cards into your hand or into the table. Most players would rather learn how to bluff or learn how to decide when to fold or whatnot. Social Engineering/Human Engineering would be the term I'd use if I was asked what it is.
Do you think the professional poker players memorized this? Does this increase the chances of determining the correct hands of the other players? In my opinion, professional players focus more on the skill side of the game more than the maths. The reason for that is that they do not have a control of the card stack, unless there is something underhanded happening then things will be different. So my answer to your question is no, they do not memorize this table but they do know about it for sure, they just don't pay it heed and I do not think it raises the chance of determining the other players hand except Negreneau, that dude seems to have x-ray vision.
The math is pretty straight forward for sure. What deceives us is how people manage to see only the highlights of poker games and see the "legendary hands" and think that it's always going to be possible, but obviously, the math doesn't lie. It's just by luck to really get that strong hand.
Do you think the professional poker players memorized this? Does this increase the chances of determining the correct hands of the other players?
Poker by far is my favorite when it comes to gambling, it is a good mixture of skill with the ability to bluff other players to the point that you can win a zilch even though he got a better hand, and luck by the probability of getting the better hand than your opponents. In this post, I will focus on the probability of getting a higher hand. The table below only presents 5-card hand poker game. If you are curious as to what is the math behind poker, hopefully this post will satisfy you.
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