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Quote from: Odohu on August 16, 2023, 11:22:41 AM

It is looking like telling lies is the prerequisite of becoming a politician. As a matter of fact, there is a way you will tell lies that people will start suspecting you to be a politician. How we get to this point in human history is what no one can explain.
I don't know about your country but in my country, politicians buy over media empires to sell lies and propaganda to the public... I know this is not peculiar to my country. This may be the reason there is a growing distrust between the leaders and the followers.

But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?

Hey Odohu, this topic gets my attention though I don't think i do regular post in this section but immediately click on the politics & society I saw this post. From my understanding, politics has been since from man creations (origin of man) and it's something that seems to be in a man and like we know politics is a game which involves lying to gain interest and the process of trying to convince people with sweets words, it creates more room to lie in other to obtain such power(point of interest).

In power you will see the eagerness and inquisitiveness to have willing power to control and subjugate people under them. But the bitter things about politics is that they are usually known as people who aren't sincere or that can do all things be it staining their hands to acquire such power, they would do it with all necessary measures. That is why we must learn to avoid politicians and if you watch carefully I barely post here as I do dislike politics. In all, all politicians are liers and they don't keep to their promises.

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Politics and lies are just like 5&6 telling lies is the primary objective of a politician, during election champagne some many lies will be told but when power is been given to them reverse become the case.
This lies among politician has circulated both our local and international politics.

Politician assume that if they don't lie during election champagne they won't be given the required mandate to lead the people, as the masses also like to be told lies before they can believe at the end if it all none of the promises made by this so called politicians won't be fulfilled.
And unfortunately people who do politics now don't have human feelings after telling the poor masses much lies and they enter seat and allow the poor masses to suffer and die of hunger and starvation.

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Politics and propaganda are alike. If you don’t know how to use it,it will be very difficult to for to succeed in the politics or political arena that’s why you see them enforcing all types of lies just to sway electorate on their side.

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Quote from: Odohu on August 16, 2023, 11:22:41 AM

It is looking like telling lies is the prerequisite of becoming a politician. As a matter of fact, there is a way you will tell lies that people will start suspecting you to be a politician. How we get to this point in human history is what no one can explain.
I don't know about your country but in my country, politicians buy over media empires to sell lies and propaganda to the public... I know this is not peculiar to my country. This may be the reason there is a growing distrust between the leaders and the followers.

But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?

In every country of the world lies have a great role in the domination of politics. And in every country, politicians are more focused on increasing their own power than the interests of the people. But not all politicians are the same there are very few leaders who value truth, justice and transparency of the party. But these good politicians often fall into political fraud and media conspiracy and lose the trust of the people. People's trust in politics is decreasing because it is full of lies. Politics is mainly for the interests of people, there should be no place for lies here, if the primacy of truth cannot be ensured, then politics will never work for the real improvement of people.

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Quote from: Odohu on August 16, 2023, 11:22:41 AM

It is looking like telling lies is the prerequisite of becoming a politician. As a matter of fact, there is a way you will tell lies that people will start suspecting you to be a politician. How we get to this point in human history is what no one can explain.
I don't know about your country but in my country, politicians buy over media empires to sell lies and propaganda to the public... I know this is not peculiar to my country. This may be the reason there is a growing distrust between the leaders and the followers.

But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?

Politics itself is what we call lies, the reason why I said Politics itself is called a lie is because since I was a kid in my country till now that I'm 23 years old I have never seen any polician make a promise in public and after winning the election he will fulfill his promise, lie in Politics have become something that is part of what makes some people win the election, my country has failed many times when electing good leaders, we always fail to choose the right person all in the name of lie and promises they made, sometimes if you remember what those who claim to be our leaders today promise us you will feel like doing something that is not good but even if you try that the power is still in their hand.

A full-grown man can stand in public and swear to the extent of taking an oath and making a promise to the people just for him to win the election but after the election, they will not even remember those he promised and the oath they took and that is why some of them will never end well until he dies, to lie to people and make a promise to the poor is a very risky thing because you don't know what some people are capable of doing and every time our leaders keep lying just to be the head of our country and squander public funds.

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Quote from: Odohu on August 16, 2023, 11:22:41 AM

But is politics supposed to really be about lies?

the greatest political lies all start with "if I'm elected....." Roll Eyes

Most of them meant every word they said during the elections campaign period, but immediately after they are voted into power, they forget all the promises they've made and allow the power they now hold intoxicate them. Many of these politicians are taking advantage of the fact that the people they represent are very easy to be manipulated, they won't learn to keep to their campaign promises as long as the masses do not say NO! to all forms of manipulations and deceit initiated by the politicians and their cohorts. There are still good politicians though, but the corrupt politicians and even the masses won't allow their goodness to be felt.

How is that even possible that they have good intentions and immediately they get into office tgiwr good intention immediately vernishes? From the kind of outrages promises they make during campaign to how much money they are willing to flung out, it's obviously clear that they are just trying to leverage on the vaulnaurability of the masses to secure there votes and end it all at that point.

How possible a politician stand up to his promises is always an interplay of his personal resolve to meeting those promises and the plan of the party he belongs to. Sometimes we blame a particular politician and leave out the platform he contested under. Those political party still have thier own role to play in assisting or frustrating some good effort of politician that have the plan of matching thier words with action.

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Quote from: Odohu on August 16, 2023, 11:22:41 AM

But is politics supposed to really be about lies?

the greatest political lies all start with "if I'm elected....." Roll Eyes

When I hear campaign promises, I rather try to hear them as possible lies, but in the end, it is up to the candidate for them to be lies or not, in the case they manage to get power..

we voted out a bunch of liars only to elect another bunch of liars.

It also mostly depends on the culture and the nation itself we would be talking about, in my opinion. There are cultures in which it is more socially acceptable for a politician to give up on corruption and adopt lies as main driving force to continue within the world of politics. That is why I don't like the current status of the politics within the western hemisphere, where it is approaching, it would seem that the quality of politicians is decreasing in a very rapid progression, leading to demagogy and liars to have a chance to get in positions which they were never supposed to be in the first place.
There are countries in which politics is regarded as a serious matter and it those caught in corruption are used as an example of punishment, Japan and Nordic countries come to mind when I think of highly functioning democracies, they are not perfect, obviously...

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Quote from: Hispo on August 18, 2024, 11:51:41 AM

Quote from: Holds3bitcoin on August 17, 2024, 06:07:54 AM

Quote from: Odohu on August 16, 2023, 11:22:41 AM

But is politics supposed to really be about lies?

the greatest political lies all start with "if I'm elected....." Roll Eyes

When I hear campaign promises, I rather try to hear them as possible lies, but in the end, it is up to the candidate for them to be lies or not, in the case they manage to get power..

we voted out a bunch of liars only to elect another bunch of liars.

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Quote from: Hispo on August 17, 2023, 05:08:04 AM

Who have not lied or thought about lying just not to upset our parents before? It is a common thing, specially during childhood. Now think how a politician feels when they are not dealing with their parents but with a whole country paying attention to them and their mistakes, it is way easier to fall into a whirlpool of lies instead facing the truth and the voting base.

That is why politicians will continue lying as long as they are human beings and the culture remains the same in their societies.

That is fact to life. It is all about individual interest that when you are caught up to be tinted with penalties, you will always create that path to maneuver the consequences.
Like you said, everyone lies or have lied formally due to self interests.

It is all about defendant or chasing after goal. The act of lying starts from childhoods right within the circle of relatives then spreads to the societies where it becomes part of a social life.

So politicians lying are cause of the people not welcoming to hear the truth as they would say.... " The truth is always bitter" and politicians being psychological enough to tell the people what they expected to hear, they sugarcoats the words to enable the audience embrace it especially at the circumstances of voting.

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Quote from: Odohu on August 16, 2023, 11:22:41 AM

It is looking like telling lies is the prerequisite of becoming a politician. As a matter of fact, there is a way you will tell lies that people will start suspecting you to be a politician. How we get to this point in human history is what no one can explain.
I don't know about your country but in my country, politicians buy over media empires to sell lies and propaganda to the public... I know this is not peculiar to my country. This may be the reason there is a growing distrust between the leaders and the followers.

But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?

Politicians are surviving with lies. Like the latest lies in my country now is from the senators. A senator revealed or exposed that their salary foe a month is ₦21 millions and the senate President said it is for running cost for the senators.
So SERAP (Socio - Economic Rights And Accountability Project) a non governmental agency gave the Senate to tell them the running cost of the ₦21ms.

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Quote from: Odohu on August 16, 2023, 11:22:41 AM

But is politics supposed to really be about lies?

the greatest political lies all start with "if I'm elected....." Roll Eyes

Most of them meant every word they said during the elections campaign period, but immediately after they are voted into power, they forget all the promises they've made and allow the power they now hold intoxicate them. Many of these politicians are taking advantage of the fact that the people they represent are very easy to be manipulated, they won't learn to keep to their campaign promises as long as the masses do not say NO! to all forms of manipulations and deceit initiated by the politicians and their cohorts. There are still good politicians though, but the corrupt politicians and even the masses won't allow their goodness to be felt.

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Quote from: Holds3bitcoin on August 17, 2024, 06:07:54 AM

Quote from: Odohu on August 16, 2023, 11:22:41 AM

But is politics supposed to really be about lies?

the greatest political lies all start with "if I'm elected....." Roll Eyes

Rather than classifying that as a lie,.I would call it to be a future broken promise, tied to the political campaign of a candidate, it would seem to be the same, but it is quite not.
When I first thing of a political lie, what comes to me is the sexual scandal which has Bill Clinton as protagonist several years ago, or when it was discovered the Nixon was actually a crook, when he himself said he was not a crook and afterwards, he was forced by the situation to give up the presidency of the United States. It was a lie which cost him to be the first person to hand over the presidency.
When I hear campaign promises, I rather try to hear them as possible lies, but in the end, it is up to the candidate for them to be lies or not, in the case they manage to get power..

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Quote from: Gyfts on August 17, 2023, 12:58:42 PM

Who elects the politicians? The constituency. Seemingly everybody suspects politicians to be liars but they'll gladly vote them in anyways. The reality is that politicians get elected by telling people what they want to hear, not what they need to hear. And what people want to hear are often lies.

That's the real fact: most of the time, we humans are easily moved when we are given sweet promises about what will better our lives and the society we live in.

Politicians have learned from the start to use blatant lies against the country's citizenry to get their votes. To them(politicians) is better to tell people what they want to hear, instead of what they need to hear because nothing sweet human beings when you make unreal promises to them that they will have a less stressed life, they will begin to have less pay taxed, there will employment for everyone, their minimum wage will be increase and cost of living will be less high.

Tell humans all sorts of lies during the election campaign, and watch them vote and fight for you during the election time. That's the mentality of most politicians. And it's working for them(sobs)

I think how we have programmed our minds to have what to hear from politicians during election campaigns is affecting our decision-making during election time. That's why politicians are using it against us, finding it hard to give up on their stupid lies on us.

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Quote from: Odohu on August 16, 2023, 11:22:41 AM

But is politics supposed to really be about lies?

the greatest political lies all start with "if I'm elected....." Roll Eyes

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Yes, politicians resort to lying in various ways to get power and they have made it a habit even though they should have kept themselves away from lying because they will represent the people in the future and present themselves to the world. People should reject those politicians and by exercising their right to vote but in most countries today corrupt and lying people are seen in politics which is really unfortunate for a nation. If you give your insight you will find that very few people come into politics who are honest and sincere.

The citizens have themselves to blame for standing by lies. They don't take honest politicians seriously and that's why majority of them resort to lying so they can win their support.

In the case of the politicians the citizens are not to be blamed for voting for the politicians of their choice but the problem lies among the so called wicked politicians who pretend to be good representative before they assume the office but once they are elected they become green sankes in green grass.

Can you point out an honest politician you have come across who will be willing to represent the citizens effectively without compromising, you already know that the politicians and their parties will present good candidates to gain the heart and vote of the people but once they win the election they will be influenced by the political party that brought them into power to go against their promises to the people.

A truthful person can not assume power without going through the due process which is doing what the others do so we shouldn't expect an political parties to be truthful because they can not rule without stealing the money that is meant for the development of the economy of the state they represent.

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Quote from: laijsica on August 14, 2024, 06:48:31 AM

Yes, politicians resort to lying in various ways to get power and they have made it a habit even though they should have kept themselves away from lying because they will represent the people in the future and present themselves to the world. People should reject those politicians and by exercising their right to vote but in most countries today corrupt and lying people are seen in politics which is really unfortunate for a nation. If you give your insight you will find that very few people come into politics who are honest and sincere.

It's funny seeing people surprising how politicians become a good liers forgetting that it's widely believed that it is one of their character. Yes, among them it is a quality of a good politician to know how to tell a convincing lies in order to win public support. And When you tell a single lie, you have to continue lying to maintain the initial lie and that's how we found ourselves in this mess today. What surprises me is how people cheaply fall for their lies countless times and not realizing it even during election time. The citizens have themselves to blame for standing by lies. They don't take honest politicians seriously and that's why majority of them resort to lying so they can win their support.

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Bro you really stole my topic 😄😄 I have been thinking of dropping this topic but it is good someone else sees or have what I also have in mind.
In this our current world lies is inevitable, you go to the society lie is now a life style for everyone it's either to get something from you or for other advantage for an individual interest. Parents lie to children, children lie to parents, husband and wife in one house lying to each other the worst is the government lying to the masses who have voted them to the position to represent them how then can the world be better when lies have been a common life style how then can their be trust, a rich man can't trust a poor man neither will a poor man trust a rich man because of trust many people no longer entrust their properties to their family members or any other and at last lose everything.
In the bible in the book of Amos chapter 2 God had punished the people because of lies, stealing and many others but in this current world we have done more than that but our God is a merciful God else.

Lies is now another means of hustling for people in the society to achieve and obtain selfish interest.

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Lies are most common among politicians they are born with this talent without lies politics will not survive. Such malicious rumours messages of false and fake information and audio video footage of fake events spread for political purposes have an effect on people's minds albeit temporarily. Voters who decide late or who are vacillating are mostly influenced by these campaigns.

Lies is one of the ways they survived and we should not be surprised about that. Politicians based on majority are critical liers and we should all look out for them because their words can be confusing if we ever take them too seriously. People are doing so many illegal things just to get into politics because they want the power so they can always challenge their friends and enemies to surrender to them. We all have to know what we are doing because the world that we are is not fit for some of us seeing people suffering and the government keep lying when they suppose to fix the masses and create more friendly jobs.

Yes, politicians resort to lying in various ways to get power and they have made it a habit even though they should have kept themselves away from lying because they will represent the people in the future and present themselves to the world. People should reject those politicians and by exercising their right to vote but in most countries today corrupt and lying people are seen in politics which is really unfortunate for a nation. If you give your insight you will find that very few people come into politics who are honest and sincere.

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Quote from: JackyRyan on August 12, 2024, 02:53:00 AM

Unfortunately, everyone lies, but in Russia, for example, they lie everywhere and everywhere. They lie so that Russia is mired in war.

everyone lie but you just make sure what you're lying for is worth it.

Sometimes we talk as though these politicians weren't kids that grew up into adult to blend into what you now see and call liers. They understand the masses weakness that they fall easily for cheap talks and that's why they are bold to come back with cheap talks that we will still fall prey of so easily.

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Unfortunately, everyone lies, but in Russia, for example, they lie everywhere and everywhere. They lie so that Russia is mired in war.

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