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Quote from: Odohu on August 16, 2023, 12:22:41 PM

I don't know about your country but in my country, politicians buy over media empires to sell lies and propaganda to the public... I know this is not peculiar to my country. This may be the reason there is a growing distrust between the leaders and the followers.

It's the same here. The real name for it always used to be channel 1, but since it's only government propaganda they call it "government tv" in the free media.
Different governments use the same tactics because they learn from each other. If something works for one country it may work for another.

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But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?

No, it's not. In most countries it's about buying votes and you can buy them by promising stuff to your voters, giving them freebies, lying to them, scaring them with war, or pandemic, or lack of money...
There's many ways to get votes. For instance, in Russia they like to simply print additional ballots and cheat the system the good old way.

Politics is a way to achieve victory in a polite manner and not violating state regulations. Currently, politics has been poisoned with bad things, which can also have negative consequences when becoming a leader. there are unjust methods, namely through buying and selling votes and even manipulating data by collaborating with people who work in the political system, currently it is also viral that when an election occurs, the victory is not in the hands of the person who voted, but the victory is with the person who wrote it, namely the person who works in the election system. .

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Quote from: Wiwo on August 16, 2023, 07:30:15 PM

Politics is a dirty games and that phrase goes a long way to prove to us how unreliable the words and the promises of a politician shouldn't be taken seriously, most especially when they are in their campaign period because most cases have proven that, what the politicians say during campaigns are far from what they do when they eventually win the elections.

This act is the reason why most people have classified politicians as unrepentant liars who may never say anything reliable and can be trusted, in the ideal sense, is not supposed to be so, and if there is a working system, no one will care about the personality of the political but will be focused on the working and efficacy of the system instead of depending of the so-called politicians.

That's exactly the techniques which the governments employs to chain the masses to a captivity whereas during elections they're humble to the society and after winning elections the society becomes a jungle and the humans becomes animals for their hunting peaks.
Imagine how they could design an economy ecosystem bestowing power of control within themselves so that humans can't even take shape of their own. So it becomes uneasy to migrate from the so political paternity dungeons where they have built us prisons at every corners of the states. So we just lives by conditional threats so we don't attract them (politicians) one day that we're still breathing as all they feels is that we don't exist anymore as much as they don't care about us and no submission of the governments over the masses rights and influences.

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Quote from: Wiwo on August 16, 2023, 07:30:15 PM

Politics is a dirty games and that phrase goes a long way to prove to us how unreliable the words and the promises of a politician shouldn't be taken seriously, most especially when they are in their campaign period because most cases have proven that, what the politicians say during campaigns are far from what they do when they eventually win the elections.

This act is the reason why most people have classified politicians as unrepentant liars who may never say anything reliable and can be trusted, in the ideal sense, is not supposed to be so, and if there is a working system, no one will care about the personality of the political but will be focused on the working and efficacy of the system instead of depending of the so-called politicians.

It’s sad that it was never meant to be a dirty game. What spoilt everything is that people go to really dark extent just to win. They don’t care if it’ll cost the life of a couple of people but they just want to win. I won’t say that there aren’t politicians who have a good heart but almost all of them are so dark and have really direct things that should land them in jail.

It is difficult to be a Saint in politics and it is quite difficult to succeed in politics as a loner. Working alone means you will not be getting support from the big players in the political group and you would eventually be tagged the bad one. So, before joining politics, the mind is already prepared for whatever that may come up. Every politician belongs to a cabal, a cabal that is only Interested in remaining in power for the sole aim of collecting the huge fraction of public funds for personal use. It is quite unfortunate that third world countries and some developing countries suffer huge consequences of the decisions made by the cabals for themselves and not for the people. The people can actually liberate themselves from bad political leaders if they refuse to be used for electoral malpractices.

Yes yes, it is definitely not easy if you won’t follow the average bad route, but at least I know it’s possible to be up there without dirty hands or mind. There as so many presidents and rulers in different countries and cities in the world, all of them can’t be dirty despite the difficulty in not being dirty.

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Quote from: Wiwo on August 16, 2023, 07:30:15 PM

Politics is a dirty games and that phrase goes a long way to prove to us how unreliable the words and the promises of a politician shouldn't be taken seriously, most especially when they are in their campaign period because most cases have proven that, what the politicians say during campaigns are far from what they do when they eventually win the elections.

This act is the reason why most people have classified politicians as unrepentant liars who may never say anything reliable and can be trusted, in the ideal sense, is not supposed to be so, and if there is a working system, no one will care about the personality of the political but will be focused on the working and efficacy of the system instead of depending of the so-called politicians.

It’s sad that it was never meant to be a dirty game. What spoilt everything is that people go to really dark extent just to win. They don’t care if it’ll cost the life of a couple of people but they just want to win. I won’t say that there aren’t politicians who have a good heart but almost all of them are so dark and have really direct things that should land them in jail.

It is difficult to be a Saint in politics and it is quite difficult to succeed in politics as a loner. Working alone means you will not be getting support from the big players in the political group and you would eventually be tagged the bad one. So, before joining politics, the mind is already prepared for whatever that may come up. Every politician belongs to a cabal, a cabal that is only Interested in remaining in power for the sole aim of collecting the huge fraction of public funds for personal use. It is quite unfortunate that third world countries and some developing countries suffer huge consequences of the decisions made by the cabals for themselves and not for the people. The people can actually liberate themselves from bad political leaders if they refuse to be used for electoral malpractices.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on August 16, 2023, 01:34:52 PM

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But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?

In the real sense of it, people who go into politics are suppose to be those who have conscience because they are suppose to go and make judicious use of the people's common wealth for the benefit of the people but the reverse is the case. If someone who is not rich enters into political office, after the tenure then go back and check the financial status of that same person and you will be astonished especially in third world countries. There are suppose to be a very strong institutions melt to punish political thieves.

basically politics is a way or tactical strategy to get something so that by getting it it can help many people, but what is happening now is that people are using politics as a tool to drain the country's wealth so that people start to become apathetic towards politicians, when politicians start to become apathetic they become increasingly -So that is using wrong methods in politics, namely money politics, without realizing that something is wrong, then don't expect anything to change.

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Quote from: Wiwo on August 16, 2023, 07:30:15 PM

Politics is a dirty games and that phrase goes a long way to prove to us how unreliable the words and the promises of a politician shouldn't be taken seriously, most especially when they are in their campaign period because most cases have proven that, what the politicians say during campaigns are far from what they do when they eventually win the elections.

This act is the reason why most people have classified politicians as unrepentant liars who may never say anything reliable and can be trusted, in the ideal sense, is not supposed to be so, and if there is a working system, no one will care about the personality of the political but will be focused on the working and efficacy of the system instead of depending of the so-called politicians.

It’s sad that it was never meant to be a dirty game. What spoilt everything is that people go to really dark extent just to win. They don’t care if it’ll cost the life of a couple of people but they just want to win. I won’t say that there aren’t politicians who have a good heart but almost all of them are so dark and have really direct things that should land them in jail.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on August 16, 2023, 01:34:52 PM

Quote from: Odohu on August 16, 2023, 12:22:41 PM

But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?

In the real sense of it, people who go into politics are suppose to be those who have conscience because they are suppose to go and make judicious use of the people's common wealth for the benefit of the people but the reverse is the case. If someone who is not rich enters into political office, after the tenure then go back and check the financial status of that same person and you will be astonished especially in third world countries. There are suppose to be a very strong institutions melt to punish political thieves.

Politics seem to be a game of deciving peopel or so they have made it seem cahse no singke president or governor has ever lived up to his expectation or at least where i come from, they are all about trlling lies buying people with initial promises and once they get what they want yhey change and show their true colours.

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Quote from: TEBTC on March 23, 2024, 05:48:44 PM

Well what you call lies is a political strategy that is used in the game of politics
Even in the advanced democracies they still lie to deceive the poor masses to get to political positions it is just the way and manner used in telling the lie
In politics propaganda is an integral part of it which means you have to call white black for you to climb the ladder of politics

Politics is normal based on lies to win election. When some politicians finally get into power, they become wizards hunting there enemies especially in a region where the rule of law is corrupt. It is very difficult to carry out the right thing in a country where the law does not stand. There are good politicians that have good things to do for the common people but the bad ones might not allow such kind of people to get to power because that could make life difficult for them.

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Well what you call lies is a political strategy that is used in the game of politics
Even in the advanced democracies they still lie to deceive the poor masses to get to political positions it is just the way and manner used in telling the lie
In politics propaganda is an integral part of it which means you have to call white black for you to climb the ladder of politics

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Quote from: Odohu on August 16, 2023, 12:22:41 PM

But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?

Politicians often twist the truth, manipulate facts and try to deceive the public for their own benefit. This culture of dishonesty is so ingrained in politics that lies are the main tool to survive in the world of politics. Frankly this kind of deception only destroys public confidence in politicians and the political system as a whole. To restore trust in politics, politicians must be honest and transparent in their work decisions. They must prioritize the well-being of their constituents over their own personal gains, working towards creating accountable political systems.

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Quote from: Y3shot on March 16, 2024, 02:20:29 PM

Quote from: teamsherry on March 16, 2024, 01:58:30 AM

It's beign human just that politicians tend to do it the most, anyone and almost every person desperate for a position would keep up the act and even tell lies to get what he wants and not only politicians do it, like when I was I high school you would see a lot of people acting so innocent around the time they want to give position, coming early to school and all that and when they are given the position they go back to beign who there were same with politics everyone has a secret agenda and would act innocent to get in.

The funny thing about this politicians that are so desperate is that they have nothing to offer, they have no plan to do for the people. Their interests is just to to occupy positions just to steal money and nothing much. Since their major concern is just to make money from their position what they will do is to tell lies just to get power in their position.

With you explanation you are directly referring to African politicians, though politicians are the most corrupt set of persons in the world but African politicians are the worst, how would a politician fake his people with words that are believed to be true and use funds meant for constituency development for his or her personal use, this is rare in the developed world.
Politicians are lie gurus, they are bent on constituting financial nuisance all the time and keeping the people in the dark without remorse, we should be conversant with this their step already, it shouldnt be a surprising thing.

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Quote from: Odohu on August 16, 2023, 12:22:41 PM

It is looking like telling lies is the prerequisite of becoming a politician. As a matter of fact, there is a way you will tell lies that people will start suspecting you to be a politician. How we get to this point in human history is what no one can explain.
I don't know about your country but in my country, politicians buy over media empires to sell lies and propaganda to the public... I know this is not peculiar to my country. This may be the reason there is a growing distrust between the leaders and the followers.

But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?

It's the same in my country as well. Our politicians own media outlets, so an unbiased opinion is a rare scene. I think it is inherent for a politician to tell lies and commit fraud to his voters, but there are a few exceptions as well. In my country, many of the politicians are criminals and if you have criminals at higher places what do you expect from them? The general public is now very much aware of what's happening in the country and how the governments are being selected/ elected. So, I think it is only a matter of time before we see a change of system in my country.

Politicians who lie about their projects and governments should not be elected by the people because they are harming the public interests and they are getting money through corruption. Politics are dominated by propaganda because they don't care about how the country is working, they only care about their power. They will do anything to get into power.

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Quote from: Odohu on August 16, 2023, 12:22:41 PM

It is looking like telling lies is the prerequisite of becoming a politician. As a matter of fact, there is a way you will tell lies that people will start suspecting you to be a politician. How we get to this point in human history is what no one can explain.
I don't know about your country but in my country, politicians buy over media empires to sell lies and propaganda to the public... I know this is not peculiar to my country. This may be the reason there is a growing distrust between the leaders and the followers.

But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?

Actually it's also very common in my country, politicians are all an ambassador of liars, because it evolves in their everyday activities, I know that almost all of the politicians in my country are lying just to cover up for their incompetence, and most times they do that by lying how their predecessors does so many things that it's very clear that it's not true, but we as nationals in the state, we knows better and how cunning they are when it comes to lying.

The most sad aspect of it is how they have buy the minds of most people in the state, including the judiciary and media as the op has
already said, they will see black and call it white because they have been bought over, which is very sad and regrettable.

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Politicians are corrupt to the bone, and they have no choice but to say whatever they have been told to say.

Not all politicians that are corrupt, ........

True, but he/she will never raise up the ranks.
If by some miracle it happens, he/she will have unfortunate car accident or other mishap.

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Quote from: teamsherry on March 16, 2024, 01:58:30 AM

It's beign human just that politicians tend to do it the most, anyone and almost every person desperate for a position would keep up the act and even tell lies to get what he wants and not only politicians do it, like when I was I high school you would see a lot of people acting so innocent around the time they want to give position, coming early to school and all that and when they are given the position they go back to beign who there were same with politics everyone has a secret agenda and would act innocent to get in.

The funny thing about this politicians that are so desperate is that they have nothing to offer, they have no plan to do for the people. Their interests is just to to occupy positions just to steal money and nothing much. Since their major concern is just to make money from their position what they will do is to tell lies just to get power in their position.

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Quote from: montaga on March 13, 2024, 02:15:50 PM

Politics is a nuthouse.
In the real world the one with the money is the boss and tells the worker what to do.
In politics the one with the money (taxpayer) gets told what to do by the one he is paying. (The labourer telling the Boss what to do.

Politics has been a problem to many countries where we see the seating officers trying to steal Money that are allocated for the masses.
We need to be wise as humans because the money that is being accumulated is only for the present not for when we died.
I know many bad politicians that have died due to there wickedness and tast for corruption. Even though we want to make money as politicians, it is very important we make good and genuine money because we don't take it along with us when we die.

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Politics is not the only aspect in which people make lies, its about the individuals involved in a kind of situation and they understand that they have to be transparent in everything that is happening where they were being entrusted on, accountability is not what everyone can fulfil the requirement to it by being honest, we are most times being tempted on situations that involves money and this is when the set in of lies begin cause of our love and covetousness for money in a greedy manner.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on August 16, 2023, 01:34:52 PM

Quote from: Odohu on August 16, 2023, 12:22:41 PM

But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?

In the real sense of it, people who go into politics are suppose to be those who have conscience because they are suppose to go and make judicious use of the people's common wealth for the benefit of the people but the reverse is the case. If someone who is not rich enters into political office, after the tenure then go back and check the financial status of that same person and you will be astonished especially in third world countries. There are suppose to be a very strong institutions melt to punish political thieves.

Politicians don't have conscience, this is there life, no matter what we do to correct this unless a punish is been put into laws for public office holder who stills public money that's the only way we can get it right as you said.
Politics is a lucrative business in Nigeria, no matter what we do in Nigeria, it will be very difficult to sanitize the stream because we already have this corruption as an institution here,. Both the leaders and people perpetrate this in some ways, how will a country leader decide to shut the mouth of the media up so that they won't say exactly as things is, the put sanctions so that the media owners will be afraid to let the people know the recent happen that's to say that there is nothing like true journalism again.

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Quote from: Odohu on August 16, 2023, 12:22:41 PM

It is looking like telling lies is the prerequisite of becoming a politician. As a matter of fact, there is a way you will tell lies that people will start suspecting you to be a politician. How we get to this point in human history is what no one can explain.
I don't know about your country but in my country, politicians buy over media empires to sell lies and propaganda to the public... I know this is not peculiar to my country. This may be the reason there is a growing distrust between the leaders and the followers.

But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?

In this your post I have successfully extracted two points which is peculiar to politicians all over the world and I am going to discuss them this;

Buying over the media: every government no matter how small or how big do not joke with its media. It is through the media the communicate with the people and whatever information that is given the people from the media is what they will believe. So every government has the media in their palm. Even as big as CNN you will understand that they are not without the government influence. With the media in the side of the government they will tell you only what they want you to hear
About the lies. I have nothing to say. Anyone who mutilates information is a liar. We can just say that the government misinform the public.

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It's beign human just that politicians tend to do it the most, anyone and almost every person desperate for a position would keep up the act and even tell lies to get what he wants and not only politicians do it, like when I was I high school you would see a lot of people acting so innocent around the time they want to give position, coming early to school and all that and when they are given the position they go back to beign who there were same with politics everyone has a secret agenda and would act innocent to get in.

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