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Quote from: Odohu on August 16, 2023, 11:22:41 AM

It is looking like telling lies is the prerequisite of becoming a politician. As a matter of fact, there is a way you will tell lies that people will start suspecting you to be a politician. How we get to this point in human history is what no one can explain.
I don't know about your country but in my country, politicians buy over media empires to sell lies and propaganda to the public... I know this is not peculiar to my country. This may be the reason there is a growing distrust between the leaders and the followers.

But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?

Actually it's also very common in my country, politicians are all an ambassador of liars, because it evolves in their everyday activities, I know that almost all of the politicians in my country are lying just to cover up for their incompetence, and most times they do that by lying how their predecessors does so many things that it's very clear that it's not true, but we as nationals in the state, we knows better and how cunning they are when it comes to lying.

The most sad aspect of it is how they have buy the minds of most people in the state, including the judiciary and media as the op has
already said, they will see black and call it white because they have been bought over, which is very sad and regrettable.

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Quote from: Zanab247 on March 13, 2024, 02:43:49 PM

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Politicians are corrupt to the bone, and they have no choice but to say whatever they have been told to say.

Not all politicians that are corrupt, ........

True, but he/she will never raise up the ranks.
If by some miracle it happens, he/she will have unfortunate car accident or other mishap.

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Quote from: teamsherry on March 16, 2024, 12:58:30 AM

It's beign human just that politicians tend to do it the most, anyone and almost every person desperate for a position would keep up the act and even tell lies to get what he wants and not only politicians do it, like when I was I high school you would see a lot of people acting so innocent around the time they want to give position, coming early to school and all that and when they are given the position they go back to beign who there were same with politics everyone has a secret agenda and would act innocent to get in.

The funny thing about this politicians that are so desperate is that they have nothing to offer, they have no plan to do for the people. Their interests is just to to occupy positions just to steal money and nothing much. Since their major concern is just to make money from their position what they will do is to tell lies just to get power in their position.

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Quote from: montaga on March 13, 2024, 01:15:50 PM

Politics is a nuthouse.
In the real world the one with the money is the boss and tells the worker what to do.
In politics the one with the money (taxpayer) gets told what to do by the one he is paying. (The labourer telling the Boss what to do.

Politics has been a problem to many countries where we see the seating officers trying to steal Money that are allocated for the masses.
We need to be wise as humans because the money that is being accumulated is only for the present not for when we died.
I know many bad politicians that have died due to there wickedness and tast for corruption. Even though we want to make money as politicians, it is very important we make good and genuine money because we don't take it along with us when we die.

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Politics is not the only aspect in which people make lies, its about the individuals involved in a kind of situation and they understand that they have to be transparent in everything that is happening where they were being entrusted on, accountability is not what everyone can fulfil the requirement to it by being honest, we are most times being tempted on situations that involves money and this is when the set in of lies begin cause of our love and covetousness for money in a greedy manner.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on August 16, 2023, 12:34:52 PM

Quote from: Odohu on August 16, 2023, 11:22:41 AM

But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?

In the real sense of it, people who go into politics are suppose to be those who have conscience because they are suppose to go and make judicious use of the people's common wealth for the benefit of the people but the reverse is the case. If someone who is not rich enters into political office, after the tenure then go back and check the financial status of that same person and you will be astonished especially in third world countries. There are suppose to be a very strong institutions melt to punish political thieves.

Politicians don't have conscience, this is there life, no matter what we do to correct this unless a punish is been put into laws for public office holder who stills public money that's the only way we can get it right as you said.
Politics is a lucrative business in Nigeria, no matter what we do in Nigeria, it will be very difficult to sanitize the stream because we already have this corruption as an institution here,. Both the leaders and people perpetrate this in some ways, how will a country leader decide to shut the mouth of the media up so that they won't say exactly as things is, the put sanctions so that the media owners will be afraid to let the people know the recent happen that's to say that there is nothing like true journalism again.

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Quote from: Odohu on August 16, 2023, 11:22:41 AM

It is looking like telling lies is the prerequisite of becoming a politician. As a matter of fact, there is a way you will tell lies that people will start suspecting you to be a politician. How we get to this point in human history is what no one can explain.
I don't know about your country but in my country, politicians buy over media empires to sell lies and propaganda to the public... I know this is not peculiar to my country. This may be the reason there is a growing distrust between the leaders and the followers.

But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?

In this your post I have successfully extracted two points which is peculiar to politicians all over the world and I am going to discuss them this;

Buying over the media: every government no matter how small or how big do not joke with its media. It is through the media the communicate with the people and whatever information that is given the people from the media is what they will believe. So every government has the media in their palm. Even as big as CNN you will understand that they are not without the government influence. With the media in the side of the government they will tell you only what they want you to hear
About the lies. I have nothing to say. Anyone who mutilates information is a liar. We can just say that the government misinform the public.

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It's beign human just that politicians tend to do it the most, anyone and almost every person desperate for a position would keep up the act and even tell lies to get what he wants and not only politicians do it, like when I was I high school you would see a lot of people acting so innocent around the time they want to give position, coming early to school and all that and when they are given the position they go back to beign who there were same with politics everyone has a secret agenda and would act innocent to get in.

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Quote from: montaga

Politicians are corrupt to the bone, and they have no choice but to say whatever they have been told to say.

Not all politicians that are corrupt, there are still good politicians who are not corrupt and if they tell you wait for them that they are coming to meet you, they will surely come and meet you just to make people to know that there are still good politicians in some places just that masses don't give them chance to rule them in some government offices.

I know there are some corrupt leaders who is using government money to enrich themselves and telling lies to their people that there is no money in that particular position they are heading, until a good leader enter there to expose huge amount of money they are making from such position.

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Politics is a nuthouse.
In the real world the one with the money is the boss and tells the worker what to do.
In politics the one with the money (taxpayer) gets told what to do by the one he is paying. (The labourer telling the Boss what to do.

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Quote from: Odohu on August 16, 2023, 11:22:41 AM

It is looking like telling lies is the prerequisite of becoming a politician. As a matter of fact, there is a way you will tell lies that people will start suspecting you to be a politician. How we get to this point in human history is what no one can explain.
I don't know about your country but in my country, politicians buy over media empires to sell lies and propaganda to the public... I know this is not peculiar to my country. This may be the reason there is a growing distrust between the leaders and the followers.

But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?

politics is ridiculous! why is it so ridiculous. In my country there are several groups that used to be against the government, counter or anti to the policies made by the government, these groups were the most vehement in their opposition to all policy directions of the government. Isn't it ridiculous that currently the opposing group is subject to government power because they have already obtained positions from the government. the conclusion is that politics is strange, politics is cruel, politics is ridiculous, politics is lies, and politics is sycophancy....

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Personally I don't think that generalizing the attributes of some politicians to all is a good idea, perhaps we have different people and different ideology. one can be a bad person and the other a good person and at such lies are characteristics of some bad politicians.

One thing I know is that some people don't like it when they are being told the truth, yea because I have seen some politicians say the truth but the fact that most have it in their minds that every words that comes out of a politicians mouths is a lie. some police during campaign only promise what they can do instead of lying or promising what can't be done, yet people especially the Lay man thinks his too weak to promise good things and as such turned some good ones to bad politicians.

The fact that people generalize this lies attributes to all politicians is based one reason, according to a proverb in my place' they say is one finger touches an oil the rest will get a stain from it." that exactly what is happening to the reputation of most politicians and Godfatherism is also one reason why they intentionally lie to the public. when ones godfather have given a order he or she dear not to violate such order because it might lead to career drop down.

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Quote from: Odohu on August 16, 2023, 11:22:41 AM

It is looking like telling lies is the prerequisite of becoming a politician. As a matter of fact, there is a way you will tell lies that people will start suspecting you to be a politician. How we get to this point in human history is what no one can explain.
I don't know about your country but in my country, politicians buy over media empires to sell lies and propaganda to the public... I know this is not peculiar to my country. This may be the reason there is a growing distrust between the leaders and the followers.

But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?

A Bitter and harsh truth of today's world. Politics and Politicians have been a perfect example of false promises , its a sad reality.
People put their trust in them and then let down. It is the same all around the world.
Yet there is still hope as we must not give up the HOPE.
There are still people who wishes to use the power and responsibility entrusted by public for the welfare of their people. Shape the society better and work harder.
However, these people are only straw in haystack.

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Politics is an important issue for any country. Because it is never possible to run a country without politics. But now the political environment is such that one cannot win politics without lying. I have also seen that all the promises made by the candidates hoping for votes in our area are not fulfilled and they are not seen after the polls. And I don't vote for anyone except in the false hope that we're used to it. But politics is needed to run a country manage the country, maintain the welfare of the country, balance the economy, and fulfill the needs of the people.

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Only few countries have got that confidence and trust of the people to their politicians. But the majority of the countries, there's always the thought of the citizens that most of them are liars and they are not truly public servant because they only serve themselves and their pockets. This is the sad truth with majority of the countries politics. It's a dirty game and only for the officials in the position to make themselves fat during their term and reign.

Quote from: Sexylizzy2813 on March 12, 2024, 03:33:17 AM

Politicians are gods in their own world (so they think) and they believe they're in control over everything including the lives of the poor masses, they're ready to take from the poor to grow their already filled pocket (greed).

This is actually true. They're entitled to everything that they wish and they're even have that angst against their people if ever they happen to bump to any of them in the road. Most of them don't have compassion to their people that have elected them in the seat or that have trusted them that they should perform well and help the people with their welfares. The concerns of many of them are only for their personal interest but even with that, I still believe that there will be a time that a great and real politician that has compassion and love to the people will appear for every country.

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Quote from: GreenInk on March 11, 2024, 01:20:50 PM

Politicians are nothing but mouth pieces for the 0.25%richest of the rich.
They will sell out anything to make small money

Politicians are gods in their own world (so they think) and they believe they're in control over everything including the lives of the poor masses, they're ready to take from the poor to grow their already filled pocket (greed). Going out to take from those who they're suppose to provide for, these guys only care about themselves and their pockets.
If what they're trying to get doesn't work as plan that's where the lies come in because that's the only way they can steal "legally" without the public noticing it on time, and they'll say they want to fund this project and all that.
Where you say the politicians will sell to make small money, I disagree on that because the politicians don't engage themselves on things that would give them little money instead they'll sell things that will give them something bigger than the money they spent during the election or campaign.

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Quote from: Odohu on August 16, 2023, 11:22:41 AM

It is looking like telling lies is the prerequisite of becoming a politician. As a matter of fact, there is a way you will tell lies that people will start suspecting you to be a politician. How we get to this point in human history is what no one can explain.
I don't know about your country but in my country, politicians buy over media empires to sell lies and propaganda to the public... I know this is not peculiar to my country. This may be the reason there is a growing distrust between the leaders and the followers.

But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?

Politics and lying tend to be bound together. It's a troubling pattern with fundamental beginnings in the way people think and society structures. Politicians use fear, ignorance, and confirmation prejudice to advance their goal. The more we believe their lies, the more established they become in our thinking, creating a cycle of dishonesty and suspicion.

Finally, it is up to us to ensure political integrity. We must educate ourselves, verify facts what they say, and hold them responsible for their actions. By doing so, we can demand truthfulness and openness from our leaders and create a political environment in which lying is unacceptable.

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Politicians are nothing but mouth pieces for the 0.25%richest of the rich.
They will sell out anything to make small money

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Quote from: Bushdark on March 10, 2024, 03:49:15 AM

Quote from: Kavelj22 on March 09, 2024, 04:10:28 PM

Those who make promises that expose them as propaganda for themselves, especially those who participate in the elections. I don't know any politician who hasn't lied.
Politics is defined as "the art of the possible" and so lying will be part of it. Despite all scientific definitions, political action does not adhere to all rules, and lying will be one of the tools that can be used. Some politicians may resort to lying to avoid criticism or to justify their mistakes.
Some politicians may resort to lying to avoid criticism or to justify their mistakes, while Some other politicians may resort to lying to maintain their positions or avoid scandals.

From the start, politics has always been built on lies and we need to understand that it is one of the ways that is use to manipulate the people with fake peomises thag may nevee the through. Politics lies keep surging Everytime that election is close.
We don't need to keep believing in many of these politicians because they are always in that position for there own personal reasons.
I don't eleven trust a single politician even though they called themselves men of God.

The problem is that throughout human history, man has not been able to change the foundations of civilization in order to get rid of political power, which is monopolized by some and misused by the majority. Man has failed to establish a system beyond political ideology to functional politics. Although in our current era it has become easy to transform jobs into tasks, the practice of politics is still subject to the same traditional standards, where theories are applied, most of which are no longer valid in our current era.

Politicians use their positions for their own interests because they are not required to apply any scientific standards during political practice and therefore there is no direct supervision over it.

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