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legendary
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August 17, 2023, 12:58:42 PM
#11
Who elects the politicians? The constituency. Seemingly everybody suspects politicians to be liars but they'll gladly vote them in anyways. The reality is that politicians get elected by telling people what they want to hear, not what they need to hear. And what people want to hear are often lies.
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August 17, 2023, 05:08:04 AM
#10
I think it goes further beyond your country and also further beyond politics as we know it. Have you ever heard that human beings are social/political animals? It is because we are supposed to live and interact in meaningful ways with others like us and during that interaction it is just matter of time before conflict starts to occur and we try to avoid it.

Who have not lied or thought about lying just not to upset our parents before? It is a common thing, specially during childhood. Now think how a politician feels when they are not dealing with their parents but with a whole country paying attention to them and their mistakes, it is way easier to fall into a whirlpool of lies instead facing the truth and the voting base.

That is why politicians will continue lying as long as they are human beings and the culture remains the same in their societies.
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August 17, 2023, 05:04:48 AM
#9

This act is the reason why most people have classified politicians as unrepentant liars who may never say anything reliable and can be trusted, in the ideal sense,  is not supposed to be so,  and if there is a working system,  no one will care about the personality of the political but will be focused on the working and efficacy of the system instead of depending of the so-called politicians.

I heard that in some jurisdictions that it not attractive to go into politics or to go into government because they understand it is a place for service and not for embezzlement of public funds as the laws are very active to be used against such leaders who went there to enrich themselves. In such countries, there is rule of law that is feared and everyone is subject to the law of the land. This is the way to make public service work but if countries don't put institutions that ensure even the highest leader is subject to the law, the whole country governance will be in shambles with corruption and flagrant abuse of law and human rights.
You will be surprised to know that in those countries, politicians still lie to the people... just that they might have acceptable limits. Politicians globally seems to have somethings in common as you can see from various comments in this thread. Even in the supposed perfect countries,I doubt if there are anyone that can vouch for their politicians.
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August 17, 2023, 03:30:01 AM
#8
But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?
Politics should be about leadership and everyone who goes into politics is expected to have good leadership qualities which does not include lying and deceit. Politicians have told too many lies over the years and lost many of our trust, so because of what we have experienced from politicians which is lying, the new norm now is that every politician is a good liar. Politicians can say anything and make promises just to gain your trust. Until politicians start saying less and doing more, Politicians will always be liars to me and people that you should not completely trust.
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August 17, 2023, 01:50:44 AM
#7

This act is the reason why most people have classified politicians as unrepentant liars who may never say anything reliable and can be trusted, in the ideal sense,  is not supposed to be so,  and if there is a working system,  no one will care about the personality of the political but will be focused on the working and efficacy of the system instead of depending of the so-called politicians.

I heard that in some jurisdictions that it not attractive to go into politics or to go into government because they understand it is a place for service and not for embezzlement of public funds as the laws are very active to be used against such leaders who went there to enrich themselves. In such countries, there is rule of law that is feared and everyone is subject to the law of the land. This is the way to make public service work but if countries don't put institutions that ensure even the highest leader is subject to the law, the whole country governance will be in shambles with corruption and flagrant abuse of law and human rights.
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August 16, 2023, 06:30:15 PM
#6
Politics is a dirty games and that phrase goes a long way to prove to us how unreliable the words and the promises of a politician shouldn't be taken seriously,  most especially when they are in their campaign period because most cases have proven that,   what the politicians say during campaigns are far from what they do when they eventually win the elections.

This act is the reason why most people have classified politicians as unrepentant liars who may never say anything reliable and can be trusted, in the ideal sense,  is not supposed to be so,  and if there is a working system,  no one will care about the personality of the political but will be focused on the working and efficacy of the system instead of depending of the so-called politicians.
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August 16, 2023, 02:57:05 PM
#5
It is looking like telling lies is the prerequisite of becoming a politician. As a matter of fact, there is a way you will tell lies that people will start suspecting you to be a politician.  How we get to this point in human history is what no one can explain. 
It's true that even how you like a politician, the tendency of them telling a lie and promises that won't happen is a huge percentage of what they say during campaign periods. Well, there's no need for any explanation on it because that's what they do to obtain power and wealth through the means of being into those public positions.

I don't know about your country but in my country, politicians buy over media empires to sell lies and propaganda to the public... I know this is not peculiar to my country. This may be the reason there is a growing distrust between the leaders and the followers.
This is also happening in my country, it's sad that even though we've got a rich country but because of the politicians. Now, our country is unlikely to get itself up because of mishandling and wrong politicians. I still have high hopes that there will be legitimate political people that has the genuine political will to help it recover.

But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?
To mislead people and those politicians that are doing that shouldn't be trusted, shouldn't be given a public office.
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August 16, 2023, 01:54:20 PM
#4
It is looking like telling lies is the prerequisite of becoming a politician. As a matter of fact, there is a way you will tell lies that people will start suspecting you to be a politician.  How we get to this point in human history is what no one can explain. 
I don't know about your country but in my country, politicians buy over media empires to sell lies and propaganda to the public... I know this is not peculiar to my country. This may be the reason there is a growing distrust between the leaders and the followers.

But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?

Politice is always define to be people who craves for better and conducive place for the people but now I can't really explain what politics is all about considering the objective of most politicians, some use it as an avenue for money laundering and some as opportunity to protect there illegal business while very few are there for changes, I'm saying based on experienced because in my country we are blessed with mineral resources but suffering is like a routine business due to bad governance though I cannot generalize it because there are countries which their politicians values the welfare of the people, so in most cases you can easily identify a good country that's Gorvern by a good politicians based on there economy.
legendary
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August 16, 2023, 01:50:34 PM
#3
I don't know about your country but in my country, politicians buy over media empires to sell lies and propaganda to the public... I know this is not peculiar to my country. This may be the reason there is a growing distrust between the leaders and the followers.

It's the same here. The real name for it always used to be channel 1, but since it's only government propaganda they call it "government tv" in the free media.
Different governments use the same tactics because they learn from each other. If something works for one country it may work for another.

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But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?

No, it's not. In most countries it's about buying votes and you can buy them by promising stuff to your voters, giving them freebies, lying to them, scaring them with war, or pandemic, or lack of money...
There's many ways to get votes. For instance, in Russia they like to simply print additional ballots and cheat the system the good old way.
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August 16, 2023, 12:34:52 PM
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But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?

In the real sense of it, people who go into politics are suppose to be those who have conscience because they are suppose to go and make judicious use of the people's common wealth for the benefit of the people but the reverse is the case. If someone who is not rich enters into political office, after the tenure then go back and check the financial status of that same person and you will be astonished especially in third world countries. There are suppose to be a very strong institutions melt to punish political thieves.
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August 16, 2023, 11:22:41 AM
#1
It is looking like telling lies is the prerequisite of becoming a politician. As a matter of fact, there is a way you will tell lies that people will start suspecting you to be a politician.  How we get to this point in human history is what no one can explain. 
I don't know about your country but in my country, politicians buy over media empires to sell lies and propaganda to the public... I know this is not peculiar to my country. This may be the reason there is a growing distrust between the leaders and the followers.

But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?
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