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Quote from: Odohu on August 16, 2023, 11:22:41 AM

It is looking like telling lies is the prerequisite of becoming a politician. As a matter of fact, there is a way you will tell lies that people will start suspecting you to be a politician. How we get to this point in human history is what no one can explain.
I don't know about your country but in my country, politicians buy over media empires to sell lies and propaganda to the public... I know this is not peculiar to my country. This may be the reason there is a growing distrust between the leaders and the followers.

But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?

The more you can deceive the people with lies and false arguments, you are the greatest leader of the present time. One of the biggest symptoms in politics is false consolation, taking votes from people with false consolation and stealing votes to become ministers. From history you will notice that almost every country has a crisis in politics, where not even a leader can be found on the path of truth.

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On paper anyone can become the leader in the democracy but isn't entirely true, one who got majority of support will become one irrespective if tbe majority is just 30% or 20% and it depends on number of parties, candidates, percentage of votes polled in the election. Anyway about the topic, whether they're telling lies or truth can be found only if we can prove it but I doubt it is even possible when the one who you go against is on the power so the cycle keep goes on, and you know people know the strategy to keep the citizens busy in their personal life so they don't think in the big picture.

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Quote from: Odohu on August 16, 2023, 11:22:41 AM

It is looking like telling lies is the prerequisite of becoming a politician. As a matter of fact, there is a way you will tell lies that people will start suspecting you to be a politician. How we get to this point in human history is what no one can explain.
I don't know about your country but in my country, politicians buy over media empires to sell lies and propaganda to the public... I know this is not peculiar to my country. This may be the reason there is a growing distrust between the leaders and the followers.

But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?

Politics, in my opinion, is not about lying, but we don't know who is real among them, all of them will seek our attention to vote for them when the time comes, and after we vote for them, they turn their backs on us, forgetting all the promises they made to us during the elections, they can't hear our cries anymore. We believe their goal is to win the election, change themselves, and steal money because they are not going to be there forever.

Politicians in my country have another method, they do not promise to do something for us once they win the election, because if we do not see any improvements after the election, we cannot blame them. After all, they made no promises to us during the campaign. The way politics lie in my country, I dislike everything about them, because no matter who we vote for, nothing will change and we continue to suffer. I don't even know why they're in my country.

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Politicians make various promises to the public to achieve their interests, but after achieving their interests, they forget their promises and lie to the people. An honest politician never forgets his promises and has no need to lie to the people later.

Maybe you live in a South Asian country, where politics means lies, politics means chaos, politics means corruption. I have seen from the reports of some countries in the Asian region, there are almost every country involved in various types of corruption including vote stealing. By doing this they weaken the masses and create their own hegemony. The more ignorant the people of a country, the more able its politicians are to lie and corrupt.

I will blame the ignorant people for this state of the country. If people are aware, political parties will never be saved by corruption.

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Quote from: FinePoine0 on May 11, 2024, 11:41:29 PM

The politics of the country I live in is dirty, they don't hesitate to attack any man and people for power. If someone prevents him from winning the election, then of course he takes his life, such a record is constantly being done in the election. If you open the pages of history, in every country such politics have come and taken away people's rights for power, these politics have started from western countries and they are mostly limited to dirty politics.

Politics is a dirty game and we need to understand it so that we don't state saying different things entirely.
I have noticed that in developing and under developed countries, many people use politics as a means to improve in self riches amd pocket government funds that is meant for the masses. Corruption has made politics to be act of wickedness and I don't think that would still in any time soon. People do no longer trust the government or the politicians because they are always there to steal Money.

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Quote from: FinePoine0 on May 11, 2024, 11:41:29 PM

The politics of the country I live in is dirty, they don't hesitate to attack any man and people for power. If someone prevents him from winning the election, then of course he takes his life, such a record is constantly being done in the election. If you open the pages of history, in every country such politics have come and taken away people's rights for power, these politics have started from western countries and they are mostly limited to dirty politics.

basically where politics is dirty is the process whereby politics when you looked at the conditions of the country some countries doesn't stand fit to abolish some evil politicians that is there for the society, so I know very well we have not learned and know exactly what you are saying concerning politics and it functions, when you know that you are not a political class please be absent to them because their mind is made of evils and that's why it's called a dirt game

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The politics of the country I live in is dirty, they don't hesitate to attack any man and people for power. If someone prevents him from winning the election, then of course he takes his life, such a record is constantly being done in the election. If you open the pages of history, in every country such politics have come and taken away people's rights for power, these politics have started from western countries and they are mostly limited to dirty politics.

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Quote from: Riginac111 on May 09, 2024, 05:28:45 PM

Quote from: Odohu on August 16, 2023, 11:22:41 AM

It is looking like telling lies is the prerequisite of becoming a politician. As a matter of fact, there is a way you will tell lies that people will start suspecting you to be a politician. How we get to this point in human history is what no one can explain.
I don't know about your country but in my country, politicians buy over media empires to sell lies and propaganda to the public... I know this is not peculiar to my country. This may be the reason there is a growing distrust between the leaders and the followers.

But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?

it is obvious that there is no politician you will see atoms of truth in him all the politicians is made of false information so in which I dislike to participate in politics because they don't have truth in them politician can eliminate you because you have known it secret the same politician will also send you a message or errand after completion of that message the politician with terminate your life because you have known him so politics is a bad game

Yes trying to align with our politician mostly our nation is to go into falseful way of life where most citizens will roll out there trust in you because you must join them is their way if not you can move far.
Before now politics is not All about lies and false information but today it's because everyone seek for power even when they are not qualified they uses all means to gets to that power, and that has dramatically change politicians to become more falseful than anything ever. This has painted politics a very bad image as everyone sees it as dirty game and deadly because many kill just to make their way anything seem to become obstacles.

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Quote from: Odohu on August 16, 2023, 11:22:41 AM

It is looking like telling lies is the prerequisite of becoming a politician. As a matter of fact, there is a way you will tell lies that people will start suspecting you to be a politician. How we get to this point in human history is what no one can explain.
I don't know about your country but in my country, politicians buy over media empires to sell lies and propaganda to the public... I know this is not peculiar to my country. This may be the reason there is a growing distrust between the leaders and the followers.

But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?

it is obvious that there is no politician you will see atoms of truth in him all the politicians is made of false information so in which I dislike to participate in politics because they don't have truth in them politician can eliminate you because you have known it secret the same politician will also send you a message or errand after completion of that message the politician with terminate your life because you have known him so politics is a bad game

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Quote from: Odohu on August 16, 2023, 11:22:41 AM

I don't know about your country but in my country, politicians buy over media empires to sell lies and propaganda to the public... I know this is not peculiar to my country. This may be the reason there is a growing distrust between the leaders and the followers.

It's the same here. The real name for it always used to be channel 1, but since it's only government propaganda they call it "government tv" in the free media.
Different governments use the same tactics because they learn from each other. If something works for one country it may work for another.

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But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?

No, it's not. In most countries it's about buying votes and you can buy them by promising stuff to your voters, giving them freebies, lying to them, scaring them with war, or pandemic, or lack of money...
There's many ways to get votes. For instance, in Russia they like to simply print additional ballots and cheat the system the good old way.

Politics is a way to achieve victory in a polite manner and not violating state regulations. Currently, politics has been poisoned with bad things, which can also have negative consequences when becoming a leader. there are unjust methods, namely through buying and selling votes and even manipulating data by collaborating with people who work in the political system, currently it is also viral that when an election occurs, the victory is not in the hands of the person who voted, but the victory is with the person who wrote it, namely the person who works in the election system. .

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Quote from: Wiwo on August 16, 2023, 06:30:15 PM

Politics is a dirty games and that phrase goes a long way to prove to us how unreliable the words and the promises of a politician shouldn't be taken seriously, most especially when they are in their campaign period because most cases have proven that, what the politicians say during campaigns are far from what they do when they eventually win the elections.

This act is the reason why most people have classified politicians as unrepentant liars who may never say anything reliable and can be trusted, in the ideal sense, is not supposed to be so, and if there is a working system, no one will care about the personality of the political but will be focused on the working and efficacy of the system instead of depending of the so-called politicians.

That's exactly the techniques which the governments employs to chain the masses to a captivity whereas during elections they're humble to the society and after winning elections the society becomes a jungle and the humans becomes animals for their hunting peaks.
Imagine how they could design an economy ecosystem bestowing power of control within themselves so that humans can't even take shape of their own. So it becomes uneasy to migrate from the so political paternity dungeons where they have built us prisons at every corners of the states. So we just lives by conditional threats so we don't attract them (politicians) one day that we're still breathing as all they feels is that we don't exist anymore as much as they don't care about us and no submission of the governments over the masses rights and influences.

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Quote from: Wiwo on August 16, 2023, 06:30:15 PM

Politics is a dirty games and that phrase goes a long way to prove to us how unreliable the words and the promises of a politician shouldn't be taken seriously, most especially when they are in their campaign period because most cases have proven that, what the politicians say during campaigns are far from what they do when they eventually win the elections.

This act is the reason why most people have classified politicians as unrepentant liars who may never say anything reliable and can be trusted, in the ideal sense, is not supposed to be so, and if there is a working system, no one will care about the personality of the political but will be focused on the working and efficacy of the system instead of depending of the so-called politicians.

It’s sad that it was never meant to be a dirty game. What spoilt everything is that people go to really dark extent just to win. They don’t care if it’ll cost the life of a couple of people but they just want to win. I won’t say that there aren’t politicians who have a good heart but almost all of them are so dark and have really direct things that should land them in jail.

It is difficult to be a Saint in politics and it is quite difficult to succeed in politics as a loner. Working alone means you will not be getting support from the big players in the political group and you would eventually be tagged the bad one. So, before joining politics, the mind is already prepared for whatever that may come up. Every politician belongs to a cabal, a cabal that is only Interested in remaining in power for the sole aim of collecting the huge fraction of public funds for personal use. It is quite unfortunate that third world countries and some developing countries suffer huge consequences of the decisions made by the cabals for themselves and not for the people. The people can actually liberate themselves from bad political leaders if they refuse to be used for electoral malpractices.

Yes yes, it is definitely not easy if you won’t follow the average bad route, but at least I know it’s possible to be up there without dirty hands or mind. There as so many presidents and rulers in different countries and cities in the world, all of them can’t be dirty despite the difficulty in not being dirty.

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Quote from: Wiwo on August 16, 2023, 06:30:15 PM

Politics is a dirty games and that phrase goes a long way to prove to us how unreliable the words and the promises of a politician shouldn't be taken seriously, most especially when they are in their campaign period because most cases have proven that, what the politicians say during campaigns are far from what they do when they eventually win the elections.

This act is the reason why most people have classified politicians as unrepentant liars who may never say anything reliable and can be trusted, in the ideal sense, is not supposed to be so, and if there is a working system, no one will care about the personality of the political but will be focused on the working and efficacy of the system instead of depending of the so-called politicians.

It’s sad that it was never meant to be a dirty game. What spoilt everything is that people go to really dark extent just to win. They don’t care if it’ll cost the life of a couple of people but they just want to win. I won’t say that there aren’t politicians who have a good heart but almost all of them are so dark and have really direct things that should land them in jail.

It is difficult to be a Saint in politics and it is quite difficult to succeed in politics as a loner. Working alone means you will not be getting support from the big players in the political group and you would eventually be tagged the bad one. So, before joining politics, the mind is already prepared for whatever that may come up. Every politician belongs to a cabal, a cabal that is only Interested in remaining in power for the sole aim of collecting the huge fraction of public funds for personal use. It is quite unfortunate that third world countries and some developing countries suffer huge consequences of the decisions made by the cabals for themselves and not for the people. The people can actually liberate themselves from bad political leaders if they refuse to be used for electoral malpractices.

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Quote from: Odohu on August 16, 2023, 11:22:41 AM

But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?

In the real sense of it, people who go into politics are suppose to be those who have conscience because they are suppose to go and make judicious use of the people's common wealth for the benefit of the people but the reverse is the case. If someone who is not rich enters into political office, after the tenure then go back and check the financial status of that same person and you will be astonished especially in third world countries. There are suppose to be a very strong institutions melt to punish political thieves.

basically politics is a way or tactical strategy to get something so that by getting it it can help many people, but what is happening now is that people are using politics as a tool to drain the country's wealth so that people start to become apathetic towards politicians, when politicians start to become apathetic they become increasingly -So that is using wrong methods in politics, namely money politics, without realizing that something is wrong, then don't expect anything to change.

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Quote from: Wiwo on August 16, 2023, 06:30:15 PM

Politics is a dirty games and that phrase goes a long way to prove to us how unreliable the words and the promises of a politician shouldn't be taken seriously, most especially when they are in their campaign period because most cases have proven that, what the politicians say during campaigns are far from what they do when they eventually win the elections.

This act is the reason why most people have classified politicians as unrepentant liars who may never say anything reliable and can be trusted, in the ideal sense, is not supposed to be so, and if there is a working system, no one will care about the personality of the political but will be focused on the working and efficacy of the system instead of depending of the so-called politicians.

It’s sad that it was never meant to be a dirty game. What spoilt everything is that people go to really dark extent just to win. They don’t care if it’ll cost the life of a couple of people but they just want to win. I won’t say that there aren’t politicians who have a good heart but almost all of them are so dark and have really direct things that should land them in jail.

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Quote from: TEBTC on March 23, 2024, 04:48:44 PM

Well what you call lies is a political strategy that is used in the game of politics
Even in the advanced democracies they still lie to deceive the poor masses to get to political positions it is just the way and manner used in telling the lie
In politics propaganda is an integral part of it which means you have to call white black for you to climb the ladder of politics

Politics is normal based on lies to win election. When some politicians finally get into power, they become wizards hunting there enemies especially in a region where the rule of law is corrupt. It is very difficult to carry out the right thing in a country where the law does not stand. There are good politicians that have good things to do for the common people but the bad ones might not allow such kind of people to get to power because that could make life difficult for them.

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Well what you call lies is a political strategy that is used in the game of politics
Even in the advanced democracies they still lie to deceive the poor masses to get to political positions it is just the way and manner used in telling the lie
In politics propaganda is an integral part of it which means you have to call white black for you to climb the ladder of politics

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Quote from: Odohu on August 16, 2023, 11:22:41 AM

But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?

Politicians often twist the truth, manipulate facts and try to deceive the public for their own benefit. This culture of dishonesty is so ingrained in politics that lies are the main tool to survive in the world of politics. Frankly this kind of deception only destroys public confidence in politicians and the political system as a whole. To restore trust in politics, politicians must be honest and transparent in their work decisions. They must prioritize the well-being of their constituents over their own personal gains, working towards creating accountable political systems.

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It's beign human just that politicians tend to do it the most, anyone and almost every person desperate for a position would keep up the act and even tell lies to get what he wants and not only politicians do it, like when I was I high school you would see a lot of people acting so innocent around the time they want to give position, coming early to school and all that and when they are given the position they go back to beign who there were same with politics everyone has a secret agenda and would act innocent to get in.

The funny thing about this politicians that are so desperate is that they have nothing to offer, they have no plan to do for the people. Their interests is just to to occupy positions just to steal money and nothing much. Since their major concern is just to make money from their position what they will do is to tell lies just to get power in their position.

With you explanation you are directly referring to African politicians, though politicians are the most corrupt set of persons in the world but African politicians are the worst, how would a politician fake his people with words that are believed to be true and use funds meant for constituency development for his or her personal use, this is rare in the developed world.
Politicians are lie gurus, they are bent on constituting financial nuisance all the time and keeping the people in the dark without remorse, we should be conversant with this their step already, it shouldnt be a surprising thing.

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Quote from: Odohu on August 16, 2023, 11:22:41 AM

It is looking like telling lies is the prerequisite of becoming a politician. As a matter of fact, there is a way you will tell lies that people will start suspecting you to be a politician. How we get to this point in human history is what no one can explain.
I don't know about your country but in my country, politicians buy over media empires to sell lies and propaganda to the public... I know this is not peculiar to my country. This may be the reason there is a growing distrust between the leaders and the followers.

But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?

It's the same in my country as well. Our politicians own media outlets, so an unbiased opinion is a rare scene. I think it is inherent for a politician to tell lies and commit fraud to his voters, but there are a few exceptions as well. In my country, many of the politicians are criminals and if you have criminals at higher places what do you expect from them? The general public is now very much aware of what's happening in the country and how the governments are being selected/ elected. So, I think it is only a matter of time before we see a change of system in my country.

Politicians who lie about their projects and governments should not be elected by the people because they are harming the public interests and they are getting money through corruption. Politics are dominated by propaganda because they don't care about how the country is working, they only care about their power. They will do anything to get into power.

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