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Politicians are corrupt to the bone, and they have no choice but to say whatever they have been told to say.

Not all politicians that are corrupt, there are still good politicians who are not corrupt and if they tell you wait for them that they are coming to meet you, they will surely come and meet you just to make people to know that there are still good politicians in some places just that masses don't give them chance to rule them in some government offices.

I know there are some corrupt leaders who is using government money to enrich themselves and telling lies to their people that there is no money in that particular position they are heading, until a good leader enter there to expose huge amount of money they are making from such position.

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Politics is a nuthouse.
In the real world the one with the money is the boss and tells the worker what to do.
In politics the one with the money (taxpayer) gets told what to do by the one he is paying. (The labourer telling the Boss what to do.

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Quote from: Odohu on August 16, 2023, 12:22:41 PM

It is looking like telling lies is the prerequisite of becoming a politician. As a matter of fact, there is a way you will tell lies that people will start suspecting you to be a politician. How we get to this point in human history is what no one can explain.
I don't know about your country but in my country, politicians buy over media empires to sell lies and propaganda to the public... I know this is not peculiar to my country. This may be the reason there is a growing distrust between the leaders and the followers.

But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?

politics is ridiculous! why is it so ridiculous. In my country there are several groups that used to be against the government, counter or anti to the policies made by the government, these groups were the most vehement in their opposition to all policy directions of the government. Isn't it ridiculous that currently the opposing group is subject to government power because they have already obtained positions from the government. the conclusion is that politics is strange, politics is cruel, politics is ridiculous, politics is lies, and politics is sycophancy....

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Lies are everywhere in Russia now, I don't know how to fight anymore. If you say something against it, they can put you in jail, Nazism is real.

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Personally I don't think that generalizing the attributes of some politicians to all is a good idea, perhaps we have different people and different ideology. one can be a bad person and the other a good person and at such lies are characteristics of some bad politicians.

One thing I know is that some people don't like it when they are being told the truth, yea because I have seen some politicians say the truth but the fact that most have it in their minds that every words that comes out of a politicians mouths is a lie. some police during campaign only promise what they can do instead of lying or promising what can't be done, yet people especially the Lay man thinks his too weak to promise good things and as such turned some good ones to bad politicians.

The fact that people generalize this lies attributes to all politicians is based one reason, according to a proverb in my place' they say is one finger touches an oil the rest will get a stain from it." that exactly what is happening to the reputation of most politicians and Godfatherism is also one reason why they intentionally lie to the public. when ones godfather have given a order he or she dear not to violate such order because it might lead to career drop down.

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Quote from: Odohu on August 16, 2023, 12:22:41 PM

It is looking like telling lies is the prerequisite of becoming a politician. As a matter of fact, there is a way you will tell lies that people will start suspecting you to be a politician. How we get to this point in human history is what no one can explain.
I don't know about your country but in my country, politicians buy over media empires to sell lies and propaganda to the public... I know this is not peculiar to my country. This may be the reason there is a growing distrust between the leaders and the followers.

But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?

A Bitter and harsh truth of today's world. Politics and Politicians have been a perfect example of false promises , its a sad reality.
People put their trust in them and then let down. It is the same all around the world.
Yet there is still hope as we must not give up the HOPE.
There are still people who wishes to use the power and responsibility entrusted by public for the welfare of their people. Shape the society better and work harder.
However, these people are only straw in haystack.

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Politics is an important issue for any country. Because it is never possible to run a country without politics. But now the political environment is such that one cannot win politics without lying. I have also seen that all the promises made by the candidates hoping for votes in our area are not fulfilled and they are not seen after the polls. And I don't vote for anyone except in the false hope that we're used to it. But politics is needed to run a country manage the country, maintain the welfare of the country, balance the economy, and fulfill the needs of the people.

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Only few countries have got that confidence and trust of the people to their politicians. But the majority of the countries, there's always the thought of the citizens that most of them are liars and they are not truly public servant because they only serve themselves and their pockets. This is the sad truth with majority of the countries politics. It's a dirty game and only for the officials in the position to make themselves fat during their term and reign.

Quote from: Sexylizzy2813 on March 12, 2024, 04:33:17 AM

Politicians are gods in their own world (so they think) and they believe they're in control over everything including the lives of the poor masses, they're ready to take from the poor to grow their already filled pocket (greed).

This is actually true. They're entitled to everything that they wish and they're even have that angst against their people if ever they happen to bump to any of them in the road. Most of them don't have compassion to their people that have elected them in the seat or that have trusted them that they should perform well and help the people with their welfares. The concerns of many of them are only for their personal interest but even with that, I still believe that there will be a time that a great and real politician that has compassion and love to the people will appear for every country.

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Quote from: GreenInk on March 11, 2024, 02:20:50 PM

Politicians are nothing but mouth pieces for the 0.25%richest of the rich.
They will sell out anything to make small money

Politicians are gods in their own world (so they think) and they believe they're in control over everything including the lives of the poor masses, they're ready to take from the poor to grow their already filled pocket (greed). Going out to take from those who they're suppose to provide for, these guys only care about themselves and their pockets.
If what they're trying to get doesn't work as plan that's where the lies come in because that's the only way they can steal "legally" without the public noticing it on time, and they'll say they want to fund this project and all that.
Where you say the politicians will sell to make small money, I disagree on that because the politicians don't engage themselves on things that would give them little money instead they'll sell things that will give them something bigger than the money they spent during the election or campaign.

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Quote from: Odohu on August 16, 2023, 12:22:41 PM

It is looking like telling lies is the prerequisite of becoming a politician. As a matter of fact, there is a way you will tell lies that people will start suspecting you to be a politician. How we get to this point in human history is what no one can explain.
I don't know about your country but in my country, politicians buy over media empires to sell lies and propaganda to the public... I know this is not peculiar to my country. This may be the reason there is a growing distrust between the leaders and the followers.

But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?

Politics and lying tend to be bound together. It's a troubling pattern with fundamental beginnings in the way people think and society structures. Politicians use fear, ignorance, and confirmation prejudice to advance their goal. The more we believe their lies, the more established they become in our thinking, creating a cycle of dishonesty and suspicion.

Finally, it is up to us to ensure political integrity. We must educate ourselves, verify facts what they say, and hold them responsible for their actions. By doing so, we can demand truthfulness and openness from our leaders and create a political environment in which lying is unacceptable.

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Politicians are nothing but mouth pieces for the 0.25%richest of the rich.
They will sell out anything to make small money

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Quote from: Bushdark on March 10, 2024, 04:49:15 AM

Quote from: Kavelj22 on March 09, 2024, 05:10:28 PM

Those who make promises that expose them as propaganda for themselves, especially those who participate in the elections. I don't know any politician who hasn't lied.
Politics is defined as "the art of the possible" and so lying will be part of it. Despite all scientific definitions, political action does not adhere to all rules, and lying will be one of the tools that can be used. Some politicians may resort to lying to avoid criticism or to justify their mistakes.
Some politicians may resort to lying to avoid criticism or to justify their mistakes, while Some other politicians may resort to lying to maintain their positions or avoid scandals.

From the start, politics has always been built on lies and we need to understand that it is one of the ways that is use to manipulate the people with fake peomises thag may nevee the through. Politics lies keep surging Everytime that election is close.
We don't need to keep believing in many of these politicians because they are always in that position for there own personal reasons.
I don't eleven trust a single politician even though they called themselves men of God.

The problem is that throughout human history, man has not been able to change the foundations of civilization in order to get rid of political power, which is monopolized by some and misused by the majority. Man has failed to establish a system beyond political ideology to functional politics. Although in our current era it has become easy to transform jobs into tasks, the practice of politics is still subject to the same traditional standards, where theories are applied, most of which are no longer valid in our current era.

Politicians use their positions for their own interests because they are not required to apply any scientific standards during political practice and therefore there is no direct supervision over it.

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Quote from: Neobanks on March 09, 2024, 10:10:37 PM

Not just telling lies but constructive lies because one thing is to tell lies and another thing is to make the ordience believe the lie to be truth. I must say that politicians are professional in making constructive lies to cover their weakness and incompetency especially those corrupt politicians that have nothing to offer to their nations than looting their treasury and institutionalizing corruption and thuggery.

They don't even care about making the audience to believe their lies to be true anymore. When politicians are confronted for the contradictions between their words and actions, they simply order their fanbases to attack the person who is pointing out the politicians to be liars. As consequence, the fanbase won't exactly deny the politician they idolize to be a liar, rather they will simply focus on the lies of the adversaries, claiming that they are much worse than the ones perpetrated by their personal idol. That is what we have been seeing on the political discussions on the internet in social medias platforms.

There is a constant argument going on between dirty and poorly washed people, which won't take society to anywhere in a constructive way. For those who still value their mental sanity, it's advisable to stay away from such conversations and such people, be it on the internet or on physical world. Nowadays it's pretty obvious when someone is lying, due to the speed information reaches us in real time. So, if there is still people believing on these things, let it be. Don't waste your precious time trying to convince them the opposite.

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Quote from: Kavelj22 on March 09, 2024, 05:10:28 PM

Those who make promises that expose them as propaganda for themselves, especially those who participate in the elections. I don't know any politician who hasn't lied.
Politics is defined as "the art of the possible" and so lying will be part of it. Despite all scientific definitions, political action does not adhere to all rules, and lying will be one of the tools that can be used. Some politicians may resort to lying to avoid criticism or to justify their mistakes.
Some politicians may resort to lying to avoid criticism or to justify their mistakes, while Some other politicians may resort to lying to maintain their positions or avoid scandals.

From the start, politics has always been built on lies and we need to understand that it is one of the ways that is use to manipulate the people with fake peomises thag may nevee the through. Politics lies keep surging Everytime that election is close.
We don't need to keep believing in many of these politicians because they are always in that position for there own personal reasons.
I don't eleven trust a single politician even though they called themselves men of God.

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Politics is a dirty game and for you to succeed, you have to be dirty. It's rare to see people with morals in politics as they are fighting for the chance to gain power and we know how conceited power can make one. People have made politics a do or die affair simply because they know what they can get from it that's why if it's to lie just to get them there, they will do it.
Where I come from, most of the politicians who promised their citizens zillions of things they will do the moment they get into power have not even been able to make one quarter of it come to pass and this is disheartening because the masses vote with hope that they will be representatives who will bring about change but since there are more greedy people than there are accountable politicians, instead of results, you get more problems.
I've settled within myself that for me to ask for a politician that is at least truthful is like asking for a camel to go through the eye of a needle.

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In our society nowadays most of the time politicians tell lies, especially during elections, many react and then can't make up for it. But lying is now a very common practice for some people. Politics is like before. Now there are many countries where only names are chosen but no voting is required. This is generally known as vote fraud.

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Quote from: uneng on March 09, 2024, 12:14:22 PM

Quote from: Odohu on August 16, 2023, 12:22:41 PM

It is looking like telling lies is the prerequisite of becoming a politician. As a matter of fact, there is a way you will tell lies that people will start suspecting you to be a politician. How we get to this point in human history is what no one can explain.

How is it that no one can explain? It's quite simple to explain: people do like liars. People ask to be lied to. People have a thing for liars, maybe because human beings tend to feel attracted by what is similar to them, that is, to what they identify to. Politicians and governments are just the reflex on the mirror of the population they represent and rule.

Quote from: Odohu on August 16, 2023, 12:22:41 PM

I don't know about your country but in my country, politicians buy over media empires to sell lies and propaganda to the public... I know this is not peculiar to my country. This may be the reason there is a growing distrust between the leaders and the followers.

Well, after all human beings still have 'free will'. If they are consuming or buying such lies from the media, it's because they consciously went for that. I don't buy what I don't want to consume. They must feel fascinated by one aspect or other of those lies (or of the liars) to keep buying them.

Quote from: Odohu on August 16, 2023, 12:22:41 PM

But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?

It wasn't supposed to. But everything in this wicked world is subverted from its original purposes. Politics is dominated by propaganda or illusion, because politicians know that is how they can divide to conquer.

Not just telling lies but constructive lies because one thing is to tell lies and another thing is to make the ordience believe the lie to be truth. I must say that politicians are professional in making constructive lies to cover their weakness and incompetency especially those corrupt politicians that have nothing to offer to their nations than looting their treasury and institutionalizing corruption and thuggery.

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Quote from: Cryptoprincess101 on March 09, 2024, 06:14:20 PM

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Politics is not about lies it just so happens that a lot of politicians running these days have lived dirty lives. They are maintaining an image in order to attract people and make the people think that they are the wisest choice to vote for and elect in the position.

You are very correct about politics not being about lies but rather the politicians running the politics are the one painting it as if it's all about lies because after they must have made a lot of campaign promises just to lure the citizens to vote for them after which when they are elected in office, they don't redeem their campaign promises anymore but most times, I blame the electorates because they shouldn't vote because of campaign promises but rather vote someone who has held a public office in the past and has a very good record.

Things like these were happening around for decades, but peoples were not well aware because we are living in well controlled and organized society which was giving positive things of these dirty politicians, but recent revolutionary social media expose this all which is surely heartbroken for the many but still this is fact now we are living in country were we are having too many bad things related to politicians, but they are still ruling us, and we are not going to have problem because we can't do anything.
Scandals and other things which are part of their lives are surely now exposing quickly, but peoples are having not good time to give any guideline or good view because they have no time for the truth, but lies are living long.

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Quote from: btc78 on March 09, 2024, 12:50:46 AM

Politics is not about lies it just so happens that a lot of politicians running these days have lived dirty lives. They are maintaining an image in order to attract people and make the people think that they are the wisest choice to vote for and elect in the position.

You are very correct about politics not being about lies but rather the politicians running the politics are the one painting it as if it's all about lies because after they must have made a lot of campaign promises just to lure the citizens to vote for them after which when they are elected in office, they don't redeem their campaign promises anymore but most times, I blame the electorates because they shouldn't vote because of campaign promises but rather vote someone who has held a public office in the past and has a very good record.

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Those who make promises that expose them as propaganda for themselves, especially those who participate in the elections. I don't know any politician who hasn't lied.
Politics is defined as "the art of the possible" and so lying will be part of it. Despite all scientific definitions, political action does not adhere to all rules, and lying will be one of the tools that can be used. Some politicians may resort to lying to avoid criticism or to justify their mistakes.
Some politicians may resort to lying to avoid criticism or to justify their mistakes, while Some other politicians may resort to lying to maintain their positions or avoid scandals.

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