It is quite sad this whole discussion about which human should rule us, while the underlying question is ignored.
The underlying question, a question asked over 6000 years ago by the devil himself, should man govern themselves, instead go having god rule over us?
God then allowed humankind to govern themselves under satan, to prove a point, that point has been proven time and time again, a human leading over other humans will only cause pain, injustice and suffering.
The only one fit to rule is god, choosing anyone else to rule you results in joining the government of the devil, and it off course will lead to suffering.
Don't be stupid and choose for the kingdom of god, there's no other viable option.
Anarchists are somewhat right in the way they are saying a human government is unneccesary/evil but they forget that a form of government is eventually needed to prevent total chaos, thus, even anarchy is wrong. Become a citizen of gods kingdom and reap the benefits of a truly benevolent king who only wants what's best for you, one with both the power, wisdom and will to improve this world, who actually prevents dead and disease, and does not wage war. This kingdom will come, make sure you're part of it.
The answer to the question asked millennia ago will be closed soon, and all human government will be wiped from the earth and replaced with the kingdom of god. This is the essence of the bibles prophecies. This is what Jesus was all about.
Topic: Politics, statism, anarchism, racism; split from: Wall Observer thread - page 10. (Read 5403 times)
October 15, 2014, 04:53:01 AM
October 15, 2014, 04:51:55 AM
Do any of you statists even know what anarchy is? You all seem to be using the late 20th century propagandised definition for some reason.
All I see is people talking about "survival of the fittest" and "make sure you're on the winning side," which seems to support my definition of it. If that's wrong, then perhaps some anarchy proponents don't even know what anarchy is by your (presumably different) definition, so why don't you enlighten us if we're so wrong? Or you know, you could continue to talk down to people while adding little of substance, which seems pretty typical for anarchists.
October 15, 2014, 04:50:16 AM
It's the most ruthless and heavily armed smartest people winning
What's your reason for being involved in bitcoin?Did you know it's almost always governments who decide to go to war?
I asked my questions because it was apparent from your answer that you have no real experience of life outside of your cushy existence, whereever that may be.
I'll answer your questions
1) I'm involved with bitcoin because it's convenient for my business to accept it
2) Yes
3) Yes
How about you answer my questions?
October 15, 2014, 04:49:50 AM
It's the most ruthless and heavily armed smartest people winning
What's your reason for being involved in bitcoin?Did you know it's almost always governments who decide to go to war?
Don't bring a gun to a drone fight.
October 15, 2014, 04:44:55 AM
It's the most ruthless and heavily armed smartest people winning
What's your reason for being involved in bitcoin?Did you know it's almost always governments who decide to go to war?
October 15, 2014, 04:44:40 AM
Do any of you statists even know what anarchy is? You all seem to be using the late 20th century propagandised definition for some reason.
Anarchy: absence of government and absolute freedom of the individual, regarded as a political ideal.
October 15, 2014, 04:38:14 AM
It always sucks to be the victim, make sure you're on the winning side.
Thanks for making my case about having no faith in humanity.
Yeah this kids officially a dumbass.
October 15, 2014, 04:37:18 AM
The world will not, and did not before its time, descend into chaos without a huge police state to watch over us all. When gangs of marauders roam the earth, people will defend themselves in equal measure. There has always been crime and always will be, its nature merely shifts depending on local circumstances.
Again, this is solely based on weakness, in this case fear and physical inability.
Again, this is solely based on weakness, in this case fear and physical inability.
Yeah, like when IS marched through Iraq and Syria, slaughtering, raping, robbing and what not. The people fought back equally and the whole Islamic State thing never happened, right?
October 15, 2014, 04:36:35 AM
The world will not, and did not before its time, descend into chaos without a huge police state to watch over us all. When gangs of marauders roam the earth, people will defend themselves in equal measure. There has always been crime and always will be, its nature merely shifts depending on local circumstances.
Again, this is solely based on weakness, in this case fear and physical inability.
Again, this is solely based on weakness, in this case fear and physical inability.
Please explain how you will defend yourself in "equal measure."
That's called survival of the fittest, not necessarily a bad thing imho.
So it's not a bad thing if 30 people decide to group together to bash you over the head and take your stuff?Thanks for making my case about having no faith in humanity.
October 15, 2014, 04:36:16 AM
It's the most ruthless and heavily armed smartest people winning
What's your reason for being involved in bitcoin?How old are you? Have you ever been in a war zone?
October 15, 2014, 04:33:38 AM
It's the most ruthless and heavily armed smartest people winning
What's your reason for being involved in bitcoin? October 15, 2014, 04:28:39 AM
It's one thing to say "I believe in smaller government, or more localized government." It's quite another to say "fuck government and who needs roads!"
Indeed.
I think if most anarchists ever got the government they dreamed of they'd be penniless, starving or dead after the local band of marauders came through.
October 15, 2014, 04:28:35 AM
The world will not, and did not before its time, descend into chaos without a huge police state to watch over us all. When gangs of marauders roam the earth, people will defend themselves in equal measure. There has always been crime and always will be, its nature merely shifts depending on local circumstances.
Again, this is solely based on weakness, in this case fear and physical inability.
Again, this is solely based on weakness, in this case fear and physical inability.
October 15, 2014, 04:25:10 AM
It's one thing to say "I believe in smaller government, or more localized government." It's quite another to say "fuck government and who needs roads!"
Indeed.
I think if most anarchists ever got the government they dreamed of they'd be penniless, starving or dead after the local band of marauders came through.
lol no it's called gangs of people roaming, raping, robbing and killing. It's the most ruthless and heavily armed people winning, nothing to do with fitness.
October 15, 2014, 04:22:23 AM
It's one thing to say "I believe in smaller government, or more localized government." It's quite another to say "fuck government and who needs roads!"
Indeed.
I think if most anarchists ever got the government they dreamed of they'd be penniless, starving or dead after the local band of marauders came through.
So it's not a bad thing if 30 people decide to group together to bash you over the head and take your stuff?
October 15, 2014, 04:20:54 AM
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In the taxed world of government, it's join or die (read: pay taxes or get arrested), too, I understand that. But at least in this instance, my toilet flushes when I take a shit in it, and I don't have to steal my food. That alone is worth the tax fee to me.
Did you pay for the panopticon surveillance dragnet that logs in the national database that you probably just took a shit because it records your flushing habits and timings of when your oven switches on? Is it worth your taxes to have armies of psychologists making shit up to feed to mainstream news teams to create widespread confusion and fear when an administrative pollster measures favour for the latest military action flagging?
"Join or die taxation" just gets a whole lot more sinister when you realise you're pulling the yoke for a gigantic killing and enslavement machine and there's nothing you can do about it except fucking pull harder and hope like hell it is someone else that is gonna get killed by the machine.
Most of the pro State comments make out like the State is benevolent, all current evidence to the contrary. We're not talking anymore about big versus small govt., it is a big, facist, malignant, growing out of control beast of a system you are supporting.
October 15, 2014, 04:19:28 AM
It's one thing to say "I believe in smaller government, or more localized government." It's quite another to say "fuck government and who needs roads!"
Indeed.
I think if most anarchists ever got the government they dreamed of they'd be penniless, starving or dead after the local band of marauders came through.
October 15, 2014, 04:16:13 AM
It's one thing to say "I believe in smaller government, or more localized government." It's quite another to say "fuck government and who needs roads!"
Indeed.
I think if most anarchists ever got the government they dreamed of they'd be penniless, starving or dead after the local band of marauders came through.
October 15, 2014, 03:58:31 AM
Every large scale modern day problem can be traced back to one thing: Weakness. In this case, big gov vs small gov, the big gov proponents are the ones who don't think they would do well in a more competitive world. Those are the weak. And because they make up the majority of voters, this is the world we live in.
The root of the impending downfall of the west is democracy. It causes bigger and ever-growing governments which always, eventually, leads to socialism/communism.
The root of the impending downfall of the west is democracy. It causes bigger and ever-growing governments which always, eventually, leads to socialism/communism.
This is not about big government vs. small government, is it? If it is, someone should let me know, because I'm pretty sure this is about government vs no government.
October 15, 2014, 03:58:15 AM
Most of the people, who are against the government in general, are the ones who actually spend less then 5 minutes a year, on who to elect to lead the government. These people are lazy and without any sense of responsibility, and they want the government to work great, without them having to contribute any work themselves.
People get the government that they deserve - so immature and irresponsible people get the same kind of an government. When people elect those, who scream louder with the help of their campaign budgets, then it's no surprise that the government gets leaders of low quality.
Other way around. People who spend no time on politics merely bitch about the state of things - and vote for whoever has the prettiest smile and promises the most handouts during commercial breaks. It takes active interest to be opposed to big government. People get the government that they deserve - so immature and irresponsible people get the same kind of an government. When people elect those, who scream louder with the help of their campaign budgets, then it's no surprise that the government gets leaders of low quality.
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