Topic: [POLL] I'm Done!: Animal House 2 - page 7. (Read 19130 times)

People believe far worse than she does. As for winning, that's not my goal here. In these cases, the journey and learning that comes along with it is far more fun (yes, I find this discussion entertaining)

Yeah, it's kind of like trying to teach a cat to fold blankets. It doesn't work, and it annoys the cat.

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I mean, I was tryin to draw some of it away, but you'd think after 9 pages....  

God doesn't care how I come off, he cares about what is in my heart.



 

Genuine or not, you're still getting godtrolled. How do you think people begin to believe a load of bullshit like that in the first place? You are responding in seriousness to someone posting about religion. Whether they are just trolling or really think you are an abomination and will burn in hell, you're not gonna win.

Hmm, I didn't get that at all from his comments. He seems quite comfortable with who he is to me. You seem very uncomfortable with who he is, but you also seem to be unable to try to see things from any perspective but your own. I get that in your worldview, he's a depraved and evil person. But can't you see that in his worldview, there's nothing at all wrong with who he is, how he feels, and what he does, and thus he's not writhing in turmoil over any of it? You don't need to share his beliefs if you do not wish to, but you would do yourself a service by at least trying to understand them. The first step is to try to understand that other people can actually believe different things than you do, with just as much conviction as you have in your own beliefs.

It's okay.  I understand.

I will still pray for you while you're in your time of need!

But what I don't understand is why you're obsessed with Rassah so much.  Stalking is a sin - even if you have a crush on his Anamorphic Avatar, you of all people should know better!

I admin, I find trolls amusing and entertaining. Though that, plus my apparent lack of shame, may make me not so fun for trolls to troll



You do realize that for you to succeed would mean for me to throw away most of my friends, confuse and upset my family, turn away my 11 year relationship with a person I love, married (legally in DC), and made a home with, and throw away the emotionally comfortable place I have finally settled into after many years or grief and conflict? Whom do you love in your life that you would lose if you, while remaining Christian, changed your opinion on one aspect of that religion?

But, by telling me and everyone else on this forum that you are praying for me, you are basically coming off as trying to show everyone how pious you are. And through your public display of care, you are hoping that everyone can see how good of a christian you are, and this trying to "glorify yourself."


I'm sorry if I have given you the wrong impression. I was in pain, yes, but that pain was caused not by my "perversion," but by my own attempts as trying to repress that "perversion" for the sake of god and others. More-so, the pain was caused by watching others trying to live lives true to themselves, and having their families and friends hurt them because they believed that those people themselves were perversions. It was the fear of god itself that was hurting me. A fear that I have long since gotten over, and no longer feel any pain about. My life has no pain (none related to these matters, anyway). I have a supporting family, friends, and a husband I have been happily monogamous with for over 11 years now (while most of my straight friends have broken up or divorced long before us).

Also, do you not realize that you are calling the innocent, non-sexual love and crushes felt by children "perversion?" As I said, I, and the others I knew, were very young at the time. Sex was the furthest thing from our minds. It was simply a crush, a love, an adoration, an infatuation. Something one felt for someone else, not by choice, but just because. Nothing more. And that, you, and others called sick, disgusting, ad perversion. Though I guess you being 17, you don't care, since you're still kind of a child yourself.

Do you know who Thor is? Do you know that there are many books written about him, and are many beliefs throughout history? Can you look to Thor in the same way you look to God? Can you understand that how you fee about Thor, not being able to force yourself to believe in him, is how I am able to "look to your God?" Or is the skill of empathy (putting yourself in other's shoes) not something you are good at?

Actually, this is getting a bit boring and melancholy, so lets liven it up a bit:
If the sin you are talking about is homosexuality, then, I hate to break it to you, but the bible, the original translation, says practically nothing bad about it, and actually has some good words about it (King David and Jonathan are implied to have a relationship, for instance, and David is portrayed as a stereotypical FLAMING prancing queen!). Before you go claiming that as an atheist I don't know anything about the bible or god's meaning, do keep in mind that I've first read the bible when I was about 5 (I liked the stories), and many times since then, and in more than one language no less.

My religious beliefs are entirely sincere, and as long as Rassah is willing to listen I'm willing to try and help him.    It took a lot of help to get me out of a very similar situation as he is in, so I know how much caring can mean to a person.

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I get it.  It's okay.  It's just you and me talking, okay?

I know you're full of anger and pain and you have to troll.  It's okay to troll.

But you're doing it all wrong.  You're not pulling in the hook fast enough.  A chase is pointless without a catch.

And the religion schtick?  You're not even really doing it right.  You have your theology all messed up.  You're not even consistent.

Go with the pony role.  Or a religious pony.  But a pure religious troll, that's like the special olympics of trolling. And you're in 2nd place if anything (Rassah has you beat).

When you realize you need more help i'll try to help you but only

And I will pray for you too! 

Jesus did not say you can't pray outside, silly.  He didn't say you shouldn't try and help and teach others either.  The passage I quoted speaks to motives, you don't pray to prove how pious you are.  Prayer is not for glorifying yourself, it's for seeking spiritual enlightenment and hoping for good things for the people around us. 

I can see that you are very much in pain, your replies to me have made it quite clear you really do wish you could escape your perverted spiritual prison and live a life free of sin again.  It seems like you have had bad experiences with other people who have made you scared to give yourself over to God, but I know you will find when you look to God instead of other people you will only see love and caring.

It's likely, though her statements seem genuine, and, worse, not original in the least (i.e. I've come across people saying those things before, and honestly believing them)

you are getting godtrolled so hard, sucker.

How is you announcing publicly that you are praying for me, someone you don't really know, understand, or even know what kind of sins I may be involved in, supposed to be NOT you being a hypocrite, praying in the corner of [forums] that you may be seen? Are you not able to understand that you letting me know you care for me would make no difference to me, since 1) I don't know you, and 2) I don't think there is anything wrong about me for you to care about? Switch roles for a moment. Do you consider it as me being concerned about and caring about you if I tell you that I think your parents and church have psychologically abused you, say that I hope you will be able to overcome the religious harm done to you, and say that I am praying for you because I genuinely care? If not, why do you suppose that I will take your actions to mean that you "care" about me, instead of them being just misguided pity with a touch of hubris and self-righteousness? And if you do understand that I likely will not "understand" your care, then why announce it to everyone, instead of hope and pray for my salvation  privately, unless you were doing it for selfish and self-righteous reasons?
(sorry for the big words and bit of mind chess, but, as I said, human intentions are VERY easy to expand on, and twist into selfish reasons afterwards. Also, I would prefer to use shorter, simpler statements, but I feel I need more specific words to express myself, and in a way, this is a sign of my severe lack of writing skills, so please bear with me. I am also making a genera assumption that my language skills may be harder to follow for someone like you, and if I'm making an ass out of you and me, sorry.)

Here here! Those costumes freak me the f*ck out. Their facial expressions are always stuck in that weird grin thing, and their eyes never move. I imagine it'd be like screwing a corpse or something *shudder*. Plus they're often mangy, sweaty, and stinky, since they're so hot to wear. I prefer being able to see their faces and reactions, though I somewhat disagree with just liking them naked. I prefer them dressed in something nice at first, and being able to "unwrap my present." Builds tension and excitement  

I was just trying to get a "Sex Talk with Sue" quote into this retarded thread...but yeah, choice of orifice isn't the issue, it's more the necessity of hiding their disgusting bodies under a costume. I want my bitches naked and spread eagle on my bed, not dressed up like a children's plush toy.

No good Christian would inform you with such ulterior motives.

"5. And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites [are]: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward."

It's only about letting you know I care.

Ah, see, somewhere along the line, I came to a realization that almost any human action could be construed to be done for selfish reasons. After that, I never prayed for myself any more, thinking it is selfish to ask god for things, when I should be responsible for fixing, y own problems, and only prayed for others. BUT, I also understood that praying for others is something that happens between you and god. If I tell others, unless it was to let them know that I care in order to make them felt better, telling them and everyone else around me that I am praying for them felt as if I was being condescending, and ESPECIALLY felt as if I was being selfish or disingenuous, saying "Hey, look at me, I'm praying for that other person, so  now god and everyone else should think that I'm a good person and reward me with praises and heaven and such, or at least reward me with thinking well about me." Ulterior motives and such do not make good prayers or people.

Jesus believes in honesty, it is quite an excellent virtue. 






As I said, I pray for you because I care and if I am able to set a good example for others than is a benefit as well.