Topic: [POLL] I'm Done!: Animal House 2 - page 3. (Read 19129 times)

hehe.. i give more away then I eat.

But I'm still having so much fun! 

No, I do get it, as well as white privilege, and christian privilege. As a homosexual, a rather large portion of the male (and female) population would be interested in doing bad things to me, so, just as you are cautious, I tend to be almost instinctively cautious around very manly (read: redneck) men. You may have someone inappropriately hit on you or rape you, I may have someone say something horrible to me, and beat me up.
You can't say that male rape happens "very very rarely." That's an assumption as stupid as the one I've made, since you have nothing to base that on. If female ape is under-reported, male rape is more so. I'll grant you that male happens much less than female, though, but we men are not all tough and strong. A lot of that is just an act for other men.
In a way, I am actually glad that you felt so angry and "ridiculously offended" by my statement. Shows you may have some potential for empathy. That feeling you felt when I said you're lying? That's pretty much exactly how I feel when people (and you) look at my love for someone and tell me I'm lying about it, I'm just confused, and it's a perversion. You say I don't understand what you feel regarding your experience, and am I horrible person. I say likewise about you for the very same reasons. I've at least realized my mistake on this forum. You can't.

By the way, back to the very very very old issue at this point, why are you afraid of rape? After all, you do pray a lot, and god does watch over you to make sure these horrible things never happen, right? (as I mentioned, from my experience, i don't think he cares, unless those bad things are some kind of learning experiences)

Goddamn you eat a lot of popcorn.

*plugs in the popcorn popper* I knew there'd be a good part to this movie somewhere..
sodas anyone?

God, I would have thought you hit China already...

Guy...stop digging...it won't get you out of the hole.

Again, you don't understand the concept of male privilege.  As a homosexual only a small portion of the male population would be interested in you, women must be cautions around all men.  The fact that you think this is some fear unique to my life combined with your ridiculously offensive comments claiming I am lying about my circumstances makes it clear you have not even taken a "Feminism 101" type class and are most likely lying about your contact with feminists.  That is somewhat pathetic, but at this point not particularly shocking.

Being a rather girly boy, and being bullied most of my growing up life, I'd like to think I can at least sort of understand your fear. Though I hope this fear isn't consuming too much of your life.

Reporting is low because people instinctively deny it happens eh?  They say the victim enjoyed it?  Wow, what kind of person would do such a thing to an innocent victim?

Male rape happens, very, very rarely.  When it does happen it is usually homosexual as men are vastly more likely to be sexual criminals than women.  For a woman rape is something that every one of us is aware could happen at any moment any day.  The invisible backpack you are wearing blinds you to this, but ask your feminist friends and they will tell you.

ah.. was confused there for a bit.

She's talking about feminists and women's rights issues, not America as a whole.

The incidence of men being raped is much lower, in part because when men get raped, no one even considers it as such, and just says "oh, you got lucky!" Any guy attempting to get help for being raped will be looked upon as weak and broken, since the stereotypical view of men is that they are strong and can protect themselves. Thus, men in your situation don't even bother to report it, instead just holding it in, continuing to pay child support, etc. I'm quite personally aware of that gender stereotype problem as well (no, again, I was not raped), and is also the reason I support the feminist movement's fight against gender stereotypes. You girls are not the only ones being fucked up by it.

Actually divorces in america is issue number one. 1 in 5 marriages will end in divorce within the first 5 years. It's been statistically proven(the rate is higher in Maine). Rape, while serious, is on the low end of this countrys problems. Last I read, the list went Divorce Rate, Country Deficit, the war in Iraw, Unemployment, Bad Business Practices(hey look, me and Walmart in the same category), False accusations, Social Security, crime, false arrests, Rape, the internet(and somewhat in that order).

Trust me, rape is issue number one for feminists as about 15-25% of women experience it as I have and 100% live with the threat of it every single day.  This may be some sick sexual joke to you, as your privilege as a man has left you free of this fear, but it isn't to us.  I don't know what damage left you in this severe state of spiritual decay, but I will continue to hope God lifts you free some day.

Thanks for that. That was actually pretty nice. Sorry about getting angry, too.


Here's my favorite poem, one that I like to think I live by:

Curiosity

Alastair Reid

may have killed the cat; more likely
the cat was just unlucky, or else curious
to see what death was like, having no cause
to go on licking paws, or fathering
litter on litter of kittens, predictably.

Nevertheless, to be curious
is dangerous enough. To distrust
what is always said, what seems
to ask odd questions, interfere in dreams,
leave home, smell rats, have hunches
do not endear cats to those doggy circles
where well-smelt baskets, suitable wives, good lunches
are the order of things, and where prevails
much wagging of incurious heads and tails.

Face it. Curiosity
will not cause us to die–
only lack of it will.
Never to want to see
the other side of the hill
or that improbable country
where living is an idyll
(although a probable hell)
would kill us all.

Only the curious have, if they live, a tale
worth telling at all.

Dogs say cats love too much, are irresponsible,
are changeable, marry too many wives,
desert their children, chill all dinner tables
with tales of their nine lives.
Well, they are lucky. Let them be
nine-lived and contradictory,
curious enough to change, prepared to pay
the cat price, which is to die
and die again and again,
each time with no less pain.
A cat minority of one
is all that can be counted on
to tell the truth. And what cats have to tell
on each return from hell
is this: that dying is what the living do,
that dying is what the loving do,
and that dead dogs are those who do not know
that dying is what, to live, each has to do.

Only black friend I have is a feminist lesbian. Otherwise, no, I don't have black friends. I also think most of my feminist friends would despise you, too. One of the things they fight for is abortion rights, which you I am guessing are very much against. But an even bigger (the biggest?) thing they fight for is gender equality and against gender stereotyping. Religious people do A LOT of gender stereotyping, so they would likely be very cautious around someone as christian and pious as you.

It's safe ^.^ although you might get addicted to the butter and salt lol.
I love butter and salt on my popcorn.

Pretty good, want a gift card? lol

You wouldn't be anymore, if they saw what you just did here, but I guess next you'll call me a nigger than tell me all about your black friends.

I'm sure at this point, the fact that I was one of the few guys in my university's feminist club, that I marched in the women's righs marches a few times, that I see the fight for women's rights as being intrinsically connected to the fight for gay rights, or that I have been a staunch supporter of women's rights in general for most of my life (both financially and personally), won't really make much of a difference. Perhaps I do have too much anger and hatred, but just for religion, and am somewhat crewed up because of it  

I feel I should explain before this blows too much out of proportion, so here's a reply I was going to make privately to someone else


Yes, I very well may have. Was thinking that this would be a rather awful troll hook, but if she WAS raped, she's ALSO not the first person with that claim I've come across. One rather disgusting person I know was raped when she was in her late teens, and is now totally emotionally screwed up about it, living off of SSI, weighing something like 350 pounds, and being an extreme drama queen. Any attempt to help her with her health, job, or anything else, comes back to "I was raped, I feel so sorry for myself, you and everyone else should too." That specific crutch is sad and sick, and in my view is more damaging than the rape itself was. There are also plenty of other people I've come across, who seem to lack any drive and have a "give me because I'm a victim and I deserve it" mentality, who use other crutches (such as injury or back pain) for their purpose. Perhaps I jumped to conclusions a bit too fast, when I saw Pinkie tell me that about herself as seemingly obvious attempt to make me feel sorry for her. Shit happens, and unless you tell me what you did to get over it, it doesn't work on me any more. However, her intention seems to have been "See, I was hurt too, just like you, so I understand what you're going through," so I've likely made an ass of myself with that one.
As for the comment about the "maybe's," that's actually probably as common as police and mysoginists denying that rape happened. Plenty of teens not even understanding the concept of the word, until someone else tells them how horrible whatever happened to them was, simply because it was sexual (who cares if they consented), forcing the feeling of horror and shame on them for the rest of their lives, and making them feel terrible about something that originally wasn't, in much the same way as churches convince gay kids that what they do or think is actually something horrible.
Heck, the idea that she and her friend did something and she thought it was perfectly fine, then after being discovered by her parents she was convinced by them and her church that what she did was sinful and horrible, but that it's ok and it's not her fault because she was simply taken advantage of and raped, is not that far fetched, is it?