Topic: POLL - which coins are scams as defined in the OP? - page 8. (Read 11787 times)

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You are correct, but what this shill says is just a typical shill argument, isn't?

Any time a scam is pointed out - like we point out now that IOTA is blatant scam - then the mantra from the shills and sockpuppets is that we are FUDding because we really-really want to buy their prestigious coin. According to the shills, right now the sole purpose of human existence is to buy IOTA. IOTA will cure cancer and solve global warming and therefore we really-really need to FUD in order to increase  our chance to buy it. Seriously, how many times you have heard this nonsense from the scammers? Personally, that's what I have had heard from the Bitbay, Banxshare, Moolah, Vericoin and all other shills.
Now, when the IOTA scam is obvious, the IOTA shills have nothing but to hype with such nonsense.

Not even noobs believe this anymore. The genius business plan of replicating the financial success of the NXT scam by luring money from noobs and idiots is busted.

The problem is that people will not fall for it again not from the same person.

There is absolutely no excuse for it.

Now saying " I don't care about BTT the wider world is where I'm more concerned". These are the very very same words ALL devs caught with hands in the cookie jar say as sentiment turns against them and the board refuses to have their btc extracted in such rapid form.

Even more shocking is the "who cares it will make no difference if bought hero accounts were used for the ICO - BTT means nothing the world cares nothing about BTT" attitude.

That is completely out of control. That's almost admission of rigging.

 

I stand corrected. I thought I had the chance to buy the ICO, but now I realize by the time I found out about Iota, the ICO was over. There was something about you had to have invested in JINN before to get in on the ICO or something I forget exactly.

They weave a maze to try to obfuscate.

Oh there is no need to be like that. I am just trying to help you get your latest project off the ground without it being branded suspect.

This is what I always say the devs say when caught red handed. We don't care about BTT. But always need BTT to launch and fund.

The real world does care.

So you are admitting it is true about the bought accounts used for IOTA ico?   it does not matter to you? because the wider world won't find out?

Fair enough. I must thank you for your honesty at least.

Why say you don't care about BTT?  The ONLY time I hear devs saying we don't care about BTT is when suddenly due to their actions things turn negative. I think this is going to be one of those times.

It's almost like you are saying that because only BTT knows things are shady that they are to be cast aside so you can move on to those that don't know the truth regarding the origins ?

I can see now why you will not reveal your true ID.

Oh no....I can see we shall not be on the same side over this as with dash.

MISSED the ICO is the correct term.

Not decided to not invest.

This is the issue with NXT and should not have been the issue with IOTA especially as he was NXT.

You didn't MISS the ICO .

I wonder what % of the board did MISS the ICO. I wonder what % board own and will strangle supply as much as they can whilst pumping it on the forum!

ICO's always fall into these 2 broad sections of scammery.

1. Some new tech ---Hoard supply to a few so can sell for much to the many. This is achieved by insta ico - nobody mentions much before then pumps a lot after
2. No new tech -- Sell to the many and run of with rewards. This is achieved by pump during ICO - nobody mentions it a few weeks later except to say what a scam.

NXT run by CFB - NXT falls under catergory 1.
IOTA run by CFB - IOTA falls under catergory 1.


I saw 5 threads on the main board with the MS azure news about IOTA.

I see a huge thread about IOTA price speculation asking 20-30x price? on the main section (which sadly had to be moved to the market section)

I expect to see a lot more pump threads about it.

Where was the big news before release?
Where were the sig campaigns
Where were the social media campaigns?



After NXT CFB didn't consider getting a wider distribution than less than 1% of the board??

Now though the price is 30x more because people changed their minds about investing?

Come on this is shady as hell.  NXT ok got away with it once. JINN i dont know about. IOTA no way!!

Second ICO or branded - - suspect.

It changes nothing to anyone, the real world doesn't care about BTT. Take some lessons before trying to troll like big guys.

Not to me, I suspect the same anyway.

Does it change anything?

Yeah they were used at the IOTA ICO

Ok. Let's continue some other day in another thread.

haha. Okay that is cool hacker joke (even if true).

Again I sort of like you. But I also have problems with your association with characters of the sort as David.

But any way, how about we stop this. I need to sleep. You would prefer to be coding I am sure.

All parts maybe, you should give me a discount because English is my third language and I studied it by reading Java documentation.

Maybe, but I'm too busy coding to distract on side-work that requires brain resources. I'm posting in delays between tests.

What part of "put up or shut up" do you not understand is central to (USA) American culture.

When having a discussion, I expect the other side to not be disingenuous. You made claims then didn't follow through.

I already have high doubts on you because you associate with David, who threatened to sue me for speaking freely about the USA securities law. I also doubt you because of the comment you made that the USA doesn't run the world, thus you don't feel threatened by USA securities law. But the fact is the USA does run the world and Putin is in bed with the USA. I have a feeling you are going to learn the hard way about the importance of ethics.

Sorry if I insulted you by neglecting your opinion about me. If you want to insult me back you should learn Russian.

If you make a poll, you need to provide at least one example. Otherwise you are just obfuscating as you are doing here by refusing to provide an example, refusing to provide evidence, refusing to respond to the nonsense you wrote about meritocracy, etc.

This thread has painted you in a new light for me.

See what I wrote about Eastern European programmers preferring the most return for the least work. Ethics aside.

And yeah I guess when you are making so much money on Nxt and JINN/Iota, that messing around with backing up your claims with actual evidence is just a waste of time.

Understood.

I still suggest to create that special poll about your tech points 2016. We may get surprising results. But I don't care enough to make the poll myself.

I presented all my facts on the coins. Including yours. The poll in my opinion reflects the unrefuted facts I have been presenting. I am pleasantly surprised to see how many readers have realized the truth about most altcoins.

One could argue that everyone is voting against the coins they don't own. So in that case, the poll is not informational on specific coins, except that it indicates the entire forum is unethical. However I don't think this is the case, because Monero has a low vote. I would think there would be more haters voting against Monero even though Monero appears to not be a scam.