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Quote from: madian on July 10, 2014, 03:17:11 PM

Quote from: atomicchaos on July 10, 2014, 03:09:15 PM

Quote from: utahjohn on July 10, 2014, 11:11:00 AM

OK I am seeing payouts on Judgecoin, unofficial "Greenlight" on X13

Meanwhile X11 is more profitable at the moment.

Side calculus, I assume that for your farm of (if I understood correctly) mainly 280x you have a ~6x scrypt factor for x11 and a ~4x scrypt for x13 like I have with my 290s. Basically, since WP marks them as 4x and 3.5x, the vsLTC has to be at least 30% higher for x13 over x11 to be worth mining.

Coupling this with the fact that the reported BTC/MHd or the vsLTC figure are at least 12 hours old it becomes difficult to anticipate the moment we need to switch algo. For example, now it feels like the X13 is more profitable since the profit is rising while on X11 it's falling and since what we mine now gets converted at a later time I think basing our switch on trends and not fixed actual numbers might be better.

Exactly

I watch market trends and not exclusively reported profits as these are just guidelines

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Quote from: atomicchaos on July 10, 2014, 03:09:15 PM

Quote from: utahjohn on July 10, 2014, 11:11:00 AM

OK I am seeing payouts on Judgecoin, unofficial "Greenlight" on X13

Meanwhile X11 is more profitable at the moment.

Side calculus, I assume that for your farm of (if I understood correctly) mainly 280x you have a ~6x scrypt factor for x11 and a ~4x scrypt for x13 like I have with my 290s. Basically, since WP marks them as 4x and 3.5x, the vsLTC has to be at least 30% higher for x13 over x11 to be worth mining.

Coupling this with the fact that the reported BTC/MHd or the vsLTC figure are at least 12 hours old it becomes difficult to anticipate the moment we need to switch algo. For example, now it feels like the X13 is more profitable since the profit is rising while on X11 it's falling and since what we mine now gets converted at a later time I think basing our switch on trends and not fixed actual numbers might be better.

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Quote from: atomicchaos on July 10, 2014, 03:09:15 PM

Quote from: utahjohn on July 10, 2014, 11:11:00 AM

OK I am seeing payouts on Judgecoin, unofficial "Greenlight" on X13

Meanwhile X11 is more profitable at the moment.

Yep, I'm on both and Diamondcoin (groestl) also atm

Judgecoin PoW is a short time so take advantage before it runs out Wink

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Quote from: utahjohn on July 10, 2014, 11:11:00 AM

OK I am seeing payouts on Judgecoin, unofficial "Greenlight" on X13

Meanwhile X11 is more profitable at the moment.

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OK I am seeing payouts on Judgecoin, unofficial "Greenlight" on X13

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Quote from: utahjohn on July 10, 2014, 08:46:59 AM

Would someone confirm this block found on Wafflepool:
judgecoin 2014-07-10 13:41:04 00000000006be1c6d9c46d62606007e21a727d121852e682b2e32e782177d964 500.00000000 immature
I am on wallet 1.1.0 and get block# 6964 with 24 confirmations.

Just checked again:

08:12:25
?
getblock 00000000006be1c6d9c46d62606007e21a727d121852e682b2e32e782177d964

08:12:25
?
{
"hash" : "00000000006be1c6d9c46d62606007e21a727d121852e682b2e32e782177d964",
"confirmations" : 38,
"size" : 212,
"height" : 6964,
"version" : 6,
"merkleroot" : "a32b8291e81915d8d66278697027e416d80eb95f6d87a26d00551ba10d615686",
"mint" : 500.00000000,
"time" : 1404999664,
"nonce" : 7727659,
"bits" : "1c01e486",
"difficulty" : 135.25661491,
"blocktrust" : "874238c5f7",
"chaintrust" : "20a230b56d8d71",
"previousblockhash" : "63831504a23d5e203b3c3efc5dbe6a65dbda34f661919707ea1405e1a4daaf01",
"nextblockhash" : "0000000001d5cf55ca070985b08317f9e7a576c33f28224191f92db8c4d282b6",
"flags" : "proof-of-work stake-modifier",
"proofhash" : "00000000006be1c6d9c46d62606007e21a727d121852e682b2e32e782177d964",
"entropybit" : 0,
"modifier" : "480518df525ab6f6",
"modifierchecksum" : "c6d1d62c",
"tx" : [
"a32b8291e81915d8d66278697027e416d80eb95f6d87a26d00551ba10d615686"
]
}

I would venture a guess that PW has corrected problem and is now on correct blockchain. ALthough this is not an "official" announce. I'll move 1 miner back to X13.

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I just noticed Judgecoin being mined again, I'm already back on X11, but was curious if it was on the correct chain now.

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It's the risk we take for larger reward. I don't expect Pool Waffle to be completely in tune with all these little Alts and their decisions, assuming it happens infrequently. It's similar to playing penny stocks, as they can be very unpredictable.

Running a pool takes a lot more than is seen by most, especially one of this size. I think we share responsibility in keeping in tune with what we are mining, and many thanks to Utahjohn for the heads up, I was nearly completed in switching all of my rigs over to X13 when I saw the message, and then went back to X11 (which is top dog again now). At least I have the capability now, and all rigs are loaded with SGminer 5.0 for auto-switching algorithms if I could figure out how to get it to play better with CGwatcher like some have already done.

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Quote from: utahjohn on July 10, 2014, 05:50:27 AM

I've already raised my irritation about "Ninja Hard-fork" with Judge ... quietly ignored LOL

So what was the "heads-up" time for this one? I tried digging through the judge thread but it's hard to figure out exactly when the fork was announced or how it was announced. Github says last commit was "2 days ago" so apparently 24-48 hours before the fork.

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Quote from: DrunkenDonkey on July 10, 2014, 06:00:09 AM

Quote from: utahjohn on July 10, 2014, 05:42:59 AM

I would not even consider that LOL, but it would be nice to have a way to send an immediate alert to PW.

Well you are well active, notably active when pw is sleeping (different time zones?) and gives the impression you follow the stuff. Ofc there are more candidates, PW was joking with someone that he have to hire him or pay for support

Such events don't happen often, but still happen, not sure if PW will be open to some sort of a wake up type of alert, probably won't embrace it, but a very very restricted ability to disable a single coin for max of say 8 hours, login based ofc, that only 1 person other than PW have access to might help mitigate the "sorry folks, we have been on the wrong fork all night" issues.

Well if I were on payroll hmmm I'd consider it. Yes I'm active all over threads. I don't sleep much.

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Quote from: utahjohn on July 10, 2014, 05:42:59 AM

I would not even consider that LOL, but it would be nice to have a way to send an immediate alert to PW.

Well you are well active, notably active when pw is sleeping (different time zones?) and gives the impression you follow the stuff. Ofc there are more candidates, PW was joking with someone that he have to hire him or pay for support

Such events don't happen often, but still happen, not sure if PW will be open to some sort of a wake up type of alert, probably won't embrace it, but a very very restricted ability to disable a single coin for max of say 8 hours, login based ofc, that only 1 person other than PW have access to might help mitigate the "sorry folks, we have been on the wrong fork all night" issues.

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I've already raised my irritation about "Ninja Hard-fork" with Judge ... quietly ignored LOL

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Quote from: DrunkenDonkey on July 10, 2014, 03:16:37 AM

@Waffle, this is happening, happened and will happen, have you considered having someone trusty, utahjohn for example, giving the ability to disable single coin for a time and raising special notification for you? So the switcher will consider the other coins for a while?

I would not even consider that LOL, but it would be nice to have a way to send an immediate alert to PW.

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@Waffle, this is happening, happened and will happen, have you considered having someone trusty, utahjohn for example, giving the ability to disable single coin for a time and raising special notification for you? So the switcher will consider the other coins for a while?

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Ouch looks like PW shitcanned the orphans already ... No announce yet so I wait ...

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Quote from: judgecrypto on July 09, 2014, 10:52:21 PM

Quote from: utahjohn on July 09, 2014, 10:48:32 PM

can anyone verify this block found on wafflepool?

judgecoin 2014-07-10 03:32:59 00000000016303f9c21c032a6bb25021be5e0d1d266a75a7e2002ad019e65273 500.00000000 immature

I searched blockchain explorer and nothing. It would appear they are on wrong wallet.

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Quote from: judgecrypto on July 09, 2014, 10:39:20 PM

Quote from: utahjohn on July 09, 2014, 10:37:19 PM

I have sent email to poolwaffle (dev) of wafflepool and also warned on WP thread that mining Judgecoin on X13 pool is dangerous ... a few who keep up on things have moved to X11 for time being but there's still 9+GHs on X13 ...

Thanks

if they are mining on the wrong chain they will wont get credit for the mined coins so I believe they will fix asap.

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Quote from: judgecrypto on July 09, 2014, 10:03:51 PM

I am not home ATM. The launch dev did say that there could be quite a few orphans at start of pos as the pos difficulty adjusts.

If you are on v1.1.0 you are on the correct fork. Bittrex is updated too.

Best practice in a situation like this is to not transfer coins till network stabilzes.

Tithe launch dev is asleep I will check with him in the morning if we have an issue.

Quote from: cryptoinmind on July 09, 2014, 10:28:31 PM

Quote from: chadwickx16 on July 09, 2014, 10:26:25 PM

Is nicehash on the correct fork?

Nicehash is not a pool...They only sell hashrate...It seems to me that wafflepool is causing trouble.

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Any word on nicehash and judge???

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judgecoin 499.99999708 57,000.02766582 0.73427535

Hmmm ... exchange may be unaware of hard-fork also ... Mine X13 with caution I am waiting for PW to respond, emailed him ...

This does not seem right at all ... after hard-fork:
Jul 10, 2014 (partial) 0.92819657 8.97 GH/s 0.00075921 408%

Before hard-fork ~ 240-250%

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