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Topic: [POOL][Scrypt][Scrypt-N][X11] Profit switching pool - wafflepool.com - page 71. (Read 465716 times)

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Approx half the hashrate has moved on to scrypt-n on waffle
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Boo ya!  These config options are going to be the greatest part of this new miner:
Code:
pool-algorithm
pool-nfactor
pool-intensity
pool-xintensity
pool-rawintensity
pool-gpu-engine
pool-gpu-memclock
pool-gpu-threads
pool-thread-concurrency
pool-gpu-fan

I am stoked they based this off of the sgminer algorithm codebase, and not the sph-sgminer system (which was rather broken).

Testing time!

@PoolWaffle: tutorials for mining different algorithms should be a fair bit simpler with this, heh.
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📱 Electroneum 📱 cryptocurrency
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Exciting news.  For gpu rigs like 280x, what do you think will be most profitable?
Scrypt, Scrypt-N, or  X11? Can't wait to try it.

It depends on your electricity cost and cooling needs but X11 seems to be the best currently. While you are waiting you can download the mining software for each algorithm, tune your hardware, and do the math on profitability.
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Exciting news.  For gpu rigs like 280x, what do you think will be most profitable?
Scrypt, Scrypt-N, or  X11? Can't wait to try it.

Depends day to day, recently its been X11 > Scrypt-N > Scrypt, but that may all change when we put a decent amount of hashrate on it.
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Exciting news.  For gpu rigs like 280x, what do you think will be most profitable?
Scrypt, Scrypt-N, or  X11? Can't wait to try it.
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Can't wait for X11 looking good with the ScryptN.

Yep, outside of a few display issues the first night of the beta, we haven't had any problems so far.  So I'll be writing up documentation for how to setup miners, and need to redo the main stats page, and get it live pretty soon.

Soon as its live, beta for X11 starts up.
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Can't wait for X11 looking good with the ScryptN.
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http://fuk.io - check it out!
would be cool if u added LGD
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New stats page is in testing.  I think its much more clear for people mining multiple algorithms (possibly more clear in general), and adds something we should have had long ago.

Would like a few people's feedback before I make it the default miner stats page Smiley

http://wafflepool.com/miners2?address=XXXXXX
(substitute your address for XXXXX)

This looks good. Could we still have a total of unconverted + earned like the old stats page has? The new total that includes all-time payouts is not as useful from the performance standpoint. Also could you show last 10-20 payouts instead of 7 days? Other than that it's great, love the graph.

Understood on unconverted + earned, I'll see where I can add that in cleanly tomorrow.

As for the 7 days, thats as far back as we keep our balance log table (where payout info is) in the live DB.  We get a few gigs of data a day, and keeping it in the live DB puts us under a bit of memory pressure, so everything past 7 days gets archived off and transferred to a backup machine.  I'll see what I can do to extend it though (might just need to duplicate it in a lighter table)

Got it. I didn't know it's archived, thought it was as easy as adjusting one query. Put it on the low priority wishlist next to the trashcan Smiley

Yeah, as we exploded in hashrate a few months ago, certain things started getting huge (and not terribly important after a while - you don't care which blocks gave which coins, and how much we sold them for a few weeks later), so they were the first things to prune.  Unfortunately, I made some mistakes/poor decisions during design (you only find this out later of course), and payouts were tied to that cleanup Smiley

It hasn't been a big deal for now, the most recent 7 days is typically enough, its mostly for looking up the last 2-3 payments to make sure they're there, etc. Smiley
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https://bpip.org
New stats page is in testing.  I think its much more clear for people mining multiple algorithms (possibly more clear in general), and adds something we should have had long ago.

Would like a few people's feedback before I make it the default miner stats page Smiley

http://wafflepool.com/miners2?address=XXXXXX
(substitute your address for XXXXX)

This looks good. Could we still have a total of unconverted + earned like the old stats page has? The new total that includes all-time payouts is not as useful from the performance standpoint. Also could you show last 10-20 payouts instead of 7 days? Other than that it's great, love the graph.

Understood on unconverted + earned, I'll see where I can add that in cleanly tomorrow.

As for the 7 days, thats as far back as we keep our balance log table (where payout info is) in the live DB.  We get a few gigs of data a day, and keeping it in the live DB puts us under a bit of memory pressure, so everything past 7 days gets archived off and transferred to a backup machine.  I'll see what I can do to extend it though (might just need to duplicate it in a lighter table)

Got it. I didn't know it's archived, thought it was as easy as adjusting one query. Put it on the low priority wishlist next to the trashcan Smiley
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New stats page is in testing.  I think its much more clear for people mining multiple algorithms (possibly more clear in general), and adds something we should have had long ago.

Would like a few people's feedback before I make it the default miner stats page Smiley

http://wafflepool.com/miners2?address=XXXXXX
(substitute your address for XXXXX)

This looks good. Could we still have a total of unconverted + earned like the old stats page has? The new total that includes all-time payouts is not as useful from the performance standpoint. Also could you show last 10-20 payouts instead of 7 days? Other than that it's great, love the graph.

Understood on unconverted + earned, I'll see where I can add that in cleanly tomorrow.

As for the 7 days, thats as far back as we keep our balance log table (where payout info is) in the live DB.  We get a few gigs of data a day, and keeping it in the live DB puts us under a bit of memory pressure, so everything past 7 days gets archived off and transferred to a backup machine.  I'll see what I can do to extend it though (might just need to duplicate it in a lighter table)
legendary
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https://bpip.org
New stats page is in testing.  I think its much more clear for people mining multiple algorithms (possibly more clear in general), and adds something we should have had long ago.

Would like a few people's feedback before I make it the default miner stats page Smiley

http://wafflepool.com/miners2?address=XXXXXX
(substitute your address for XXXXX)

This looks good. Could we still have a total of unconverted + earned like the old stats page has? The new total that includes all-time payouts is not as useful from the performance standpoint. Also could you show last 10-20 payouts instead of 7 days? Other than that it's great, love the graph.
legendary
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New stats page is in testing.  I think its much more clear for people mining multiple algorithms (possibly more clear in general), and adds something we should have had long ago.

Would like a few people's feedback before I make it the default miner stats page Smiley

http://wafflepool.com/miners2?address=XXXXXX
(substitute your address for XXXXX)

I've got to say, wow! I like the new stats page! Graphs! It's like a statistician's wet dream ;-)

At first I was concerned because my ScriptN rigs are so underpowered, they looked like a smear of grape jelly on the floor of the graph view. But when I unchecked my much more powerful Script rigs, the graphs nicely and automatically zoomed to give me good detail. It even exposed the fact that one of my ScriptN rigs had a slump in performance that I didn't otherwise know about.

I guess my feedback would be that the stats page is really busy. But I don't know what you'd do about that and still provide this level of detail. Maybe if there were options to hide/disclose sections of the stats.

Also, when I refresh the page it forgets the checkboxes selected in the "show" column. That can be a nice if you want to show all active rigs, or a not as nice when you want to keep the graph settings that you selected. Maybe if the session could remember the selection, with a toggle to show all active rigs?

Maybe it would be nice to be able to sort the workers grid (by column heading)? I've got 9 workers across 2 pools now, so it would be cool to be able to sort by algorithm, for example.

Anyway, these are just nits. You've really done a nice job here. Thanks for all the hard work.
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New stats page is in testing.  I think its much more clear for people mining multiple algorithms (possibly more clear in general), and adds something we should have had long ago.

Would like a few people's feedback before I make it the default miner stats page Smiley

http://wafflepool.com/miners2?address=XXXXXX
(substitute your address for XXXXX)
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OK, Vertcoin has been added (looks to work), but isn't actively mining, as we don't have enough hashpower to be reasonable yet (would take 1+ days per block, not really worth the variance), it will be auto-enabled when we get to the point that we'd find a block every hour or so (around 200MHs Scrypt-N pool, shouldn't take long).

We've also moved the Scrypt-N pool to all of our endpoints, so you can mine Scrypt-N at any of the normal wafflepool servers (useast, uswest, sea, eu).

We'll be updating the stats pages throughout the day, and when we get to the point that stats are clean and concise, I'll expand the beta to more people (post a note on the site) Smiley
Will there be a separate API Scrypt-N stats? Just wanted to know if I'll need to make any changes to my widget. Thanks

There actually are already (but they're undocumented), and we'll likely be making a completely new API once we've added the major algorithms and in a stable place.

At the current time you can pass ?algo=scrypt or ?algo=nscrypt to the APIs and get back the algo-specific stats.  Defaults to algo=scrypt if not specified Smiley
Excellent! Will be adding support for Scrypt-N stats over the weekend.  Thanks
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I'm curious about the stats right now.  I have one rig pointing to the n-scrypt and one still on scrypt.  The bitcoins expected field (and the others) are different depending on if I am looking at the scrypt or nscrypt view.  Are these supposed to be different or should I add them up or should I just ignore them completely until you have the stats pages working as you have intended?

This is intended.  All stats are tracked 100% separately (earnings, hashrates, shares per shift, etc).  So if you switch to Scrypt, you'll see only scrypt stats, same for Scrypt-N.  I'm working on a new stats page right now that puts them all in one place cleanly (I'm getting a lot of your question - so its obviously not very clear currently).
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I'm curious about the stats right now.  I have one rig pointing to the n-scrypt and one still on scrypt.  The bitcoins expected field (and the others) are different depending on if I am looking at the scrypt or nscrypt view.  Are these supposed to be different or should I add them up or should I just ignore them completely until you have the stats pages working as you have intended?
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OK, Vertcoin has been added (looks to work), but isn't actively mining, as we don't have enough hashpower to be reasonable yet (would take 1+ days per block, not really worth the variance), it will be auto-enabled when we get to the point that we'd find a block every hour or so (around 200MHs Scrypt-N pool, shouldn't take long).

We've also moved the Scrypt-N pool to all of our endpoints, so you can mine Scrypt-N at any of the normal wafflepool servers (useast, uswest, sea, eu).

We'll be updating the stats pages throughout the day, and when we get to the point that stats are clean and concise, I'll expand the beta to more people (post a note on the site) Smiley
Will there be a separate API Scrypt-N stats? Just wanted to know if I'll need to make any changes to my widget. Thanks

There actually are already (but they're undocumented), and we'll likely be making a completely new API once we've added the major algorithms and in a stable place.

At the current time you can pass ?algo=scrypt or ?algo=nscrypt to the APIs and get back the algo-specific stats.  Defaults to algo=scrypt if not specified Smiley
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