Really, we want to be focussed on spreading as much EXO as far and wide as possible.
The major criticism of second generation coins is poor distribution - the better we are at this the more chance the coin has of succeeding.
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April 23, 2014, 07:51:27 AM
April 23, 2014, 07:46:13 AM
There will also be mining, so depending on how hard / easy it is to mine eXo, that is what makes the price.
If miners are able to make a profit at 0.00000300, then I guesss they sell for 0.00000300. If it's at 200 sats, then they will sell at 200. Some just mine to make small profits and jump to another coin.
I've lost believe in the reason of people. Some follow a dump like lemmings, while all indicators point to a fast rise after the dump. Some people just suck at trading or just settle for a few satoshi profit...
We will know after eXo hits a major exchange and the mining is on it's way.
You're right, I forgot about it. So actually the price might be lower than IPO price.
I'm inclined to think so yes...
Think about it: 50 million coins in 6 months. That's 50,000,000 / 183 days = 273,224 coins on average to market every day!
That's got to have a negative effect on the price...
Maybe block rewards shall vary not uniform over 6 months
April 23, 2014, 07:44:09 AM
I personally think dgex would be a great idea as well.
They seem to be one of the more innovative exchanges.
They seem to be one of the more innovative exchanges.
Dgex?!!! you want to kill the coin?
Are you nuts? What kind of logic do you use to make such conclusions? Please see the shrink and come back to this forum later.
Dgex have rates 1.4% and 2.8% for btc withdrawal and still sometimes takes 24H depending on the mood of whoever is doing this manually and this person is awake. Nxt could have flown higher at the beginning, if were not stuck in a single exchange.
Does this to try to arrest the people there. Could for example switch between exchanges making more profit.
I prefer to negotiate Bter my nxt. Has more volume and not have these fees, in addition to having more coins for change.
I do not understand why so many people like Dgex. All other exchanges do not charge withdrawal. Must be all that bought shares without seeing any innovation, desperate to have return. :p
I'm not totally against Dgex add Exo, but I think it has to be before in other exchange with free fees withdrawal, so who wants to be free, uses other exchanges who enjoys halter uses Dgex and everyone is happy.
Exactly. withdrawal rates are way too high. And why they take for ever to transfer the BTCs?
There are cases that the transfer took more than 3 days even after deducting 1.4%
EXO can be added to DGEX if some people prefer, but it shouldn't be the sole exchange
April 23, 2014, 07:40:28 AM
There will also be mining, so depending on how hard / easy it is to mine eXo, that is what makes the price.
If miners are able to make a profit at 0.00000300, then I guesss they sell for 0.00000300. If it's at 200 sats, then they will sell at 200. Some just mine to make small profits and jump to another coin.
I've lost believe in the reason of people. Some follow a dump like lemmings, while all indicators point to a fast rise after the dump. Some people just suck at trading or just settle for a few satoshi profit...
We will know after eXo hits a major exchange and the mining is on it's way.
You're right, I forgot about it. So actually the price might be lower than IPO price.
I'm inclined to think so yes...
Think about it: 50 million coins in 6 months. That's 50,000,000 / 183 days = 273,224 coins on average to market every day!
That's got to have a negative effect on the price...
Holy crap, that's a lot.
IPO price : 2nd stage 1 BTC investor gets: 120,029.5418 EXO
That´s does´nt sounds so much, if like 100-10000 person do the mining.....
This is oversimplified, but to keep the price at the 2nd stage IPO level, we will only need about 2.27 BTC flowing in each day.
April 23, 2014, 07:40:09 AM
how much does first stage investor get?
See post no.2006 by exo_coin for details of the coins for 1st and 2nd stage investors
April 23, 2014, 07:15:58 AM
mail applicants: each valid application will get at the moment 6,000,000 / 1500 people =~ 4,000 EXO (equals a 2nd stage investment of 0.033 BTC)
Note: mail applications have not been verified yet. So the number still can decreases or increases. The possibility to apply for the mail giveaway will end on 23th April 23:00:00 GMT.
Everything is fine, I agree with them except the mail applicants processor.
Firstly , as your said , each valid apply could get 4,000 exo -- equals a 2nd stage investment of 0.033 BTC, its absolutely not fair to those people who invest
less than 0.15 BTC ( may be 0.1 BTC ). These investors take risk and spend much time to this coin, but they get less than the email-giveaways. I cannot believable that.
Secondly , its no double that some people have several account at this forum, maybe 3 accounts, 10 accounts or even more, they did nothing but spent little
time to have a high value, and even steal our coin from investors , e.g:3 valid email applicants = 0.1 BTC, 30 applicants = 1 BTC ,as I mentioned above , this
could have a damage to the investors.
At last, I know the cheat phenomena cannot be prevented, so I recommend the best price of each should between 0.015 BTC and 0.02 BTC , it means the valid
at least 2500 people.But if the number cannot reached, we should reserve the remainder coin to those people who will help our ecnomicsystem and develop application for exoCoin, like Android wallet, build log..., and more.
By the way , we could regard those people who had gave suggestion and report debug as a valid email giveaway, We must thanks for those people.
Its my opinion.............
agreed.
the free giveaway should be as widely as possible.4000 exo per share is a bit too much.
April 23, 2014, 07:15:35 AM
I personally think dgex would be a great idea as well.
They seem to be one of the more innovative exchanges.
They seem to be one of the more innovative exchanges.
Dgex?!!! you want to kill the coin?
Are you nuts? What kind of logic do you use to make such conclusions? Please see the shrink and come back to this forum later.
Dgex have rates 1.4% and 2.8% for btc withdrawal and still sometimes takes 24H depending on the mood of whoever is doing this manually and this person is awake. Nxt could have flown higher at the beginning, if were not stuck in a single exchange.
Does this to try to arrest the people there. Could for example switch between exchanges making more profit.
I prefer to negotiate Bter my nxt. Has more volume and not have these fees, in addition to having more coins for change.
I do not understand why so many people like Dgex. All other exchanges do not charge withdrawal. Must be all that bought shares without seeing any innovation, desperate to have return. :p
I'm not totally against Dgex add Exo, but I think it has to be before in other exchange with free fees withdrawal, so who wants to be free, uses other exchanges who enjoys halter uses Dgex and everyone is happy.
April 23, 2014, 07:12:53 AM
how much does first stage investor get?
April 23, 2014, 07:11:53 AM
mail applicants: each valid application will get at the moment 6,000,000 / 1500 people =~ 4,000 EXO (equals a 2nd stage investment of 0.033 BTC)
Note: mail applications have not been verified yet. So the number still can decreases or increases. The possibility to apply for the mail giveaway will end on 23th April 23:00:00 GMT.
Everything is fine, I agree with them except the mail applicants processor.
Firstly , as your said , each valid apply could get 4,000 exo -- equals a 2nd stage investment of 0.033 BTC, its absolutely not fair to those people who invest
less than 0.15 BTC ( may be 0.1 BTC ). These investors take risk and spend much time to this coin, but they get less than the email-giveaways. I cannot believable that.
Secondly , its no double that some people have several account at this forum, maybe 3 accounts, 10 accounts or even more, they did nothing but spent little
time to have a high value, and even steal our coin from investors , e.g:3 valid email applicants = 0.1 BTC, 30 applicants = 1 BTC ,as I mentioned above , this
could have a damage to the investors.
At last, I know the cheat phenomena cannot be prevented, so I recommend the best price of each should between 0.015 BTC and 0.02 BTC , it means the valid
at least 2500 people.But if the number cannot reached, we should reserve the remainder coin to those people who will help our ecnomicsystem and develop application for exoCoin, like Android wallet, build log..., and more.
By the way , we could regard those people who had gave suggestion and report debug as a valid email giveaway, We must thanks for those people.
Its my opinion.............
April 23, 2014, 07:00:00 AM
mail applicants: each valid application will get at the moment 6,000,000 / 1500 people =~ 4,000 EXO (equals a 2nd stage investment of 0.033 BTC)
Note: mail applications have not been verified yet. So the number still can decreases or increases. The possibility to apply for the mail giveaway will end on 23th April 23:00:00 GMT.
Everything is fine, I agree with them except the mail applicants processor.
Firstly , as your said , each valid apply could get 4,000 exo -- equals a 2nd stage investment of 0.033 BTC, its absolutely not fair to those people who invest
less than 0.15 BTC ( may be 0.1 BTC ). These investors take risk and spend much time to this coin, but they get less than the email-giveaways. I cannot believable that.
Secondly , its no double that some people have several account at this forum, maybe 3 accounts, 10 accounts or even more, they did nothing but spent little
time to have a high value, and even steal our coin from investors , e.g:3 valid email applicants = 0.1 BTC, 30 applicants = 1 BTC ,as I mentioned above , this
could have a damage to the investors.
At last, I know the cheat phenomena cannot be prevented, so I recommend the best price of each should between 0.015 BTC and 0.02 BTC , it means the valid
at least 2500 people.But if the number cannot reached, we should reserve the remainder coin to those people who will help our ecnomicsystem and develop application for exoCoin, like Android wallet, build log..., and more.
By the way , we could regard those people who had gave suggestion and report debug as a valid email giveaway, We must thanks for those people.
Its my opinion.............
April 23, 2014, 06:58:44 AM
There will also be mining, so depending on how hard / easy it is to mine eXo, that is what makes the price.
If miners are able to make a profit at 0.00000300, then I guesss they sell for 0.00000300. If it's at 200 sats, then they will sell at 200. Some just mine to make small profits and jump to another coin.
I've lost believe in the reason of people. Some follow a dump like lemmings, while all indicators point to a fast rise after the dump. Some people just suck at trading or just settle for a few satoshi profit...
We will know after eXo hits a major exchange and the mining is on it's way.
You're right, I forgot about it. So actually the price might be lower than IPO price.
I'm inclined to think so yes...
Think about it: 50 million coins in 6 months. That's 50,000,000 / 183 days = 273,224 coins on average to market every day!
That's got to have a negative effect on the price...
Holy crap, that's a lot.
IPO price : 2nd stage 1 BTC investor gets: 120,029.5418 EXO
That´s does´nt sounds so much, if like 100-10000 person do the mining.....
April 23, 2014, 06:44:14 AM
There will also be mining, so depending on how hard / easy it is to mine eXo, that is what makes the price.
If miners are able to make a profit at 0.00000300, then I guesss they sell for 0.00000300. If it's at 200 sats, then they will sell at 200. Some just mine to make small profits and jump to another coin.
I've lost believe in the reason of people. Some follow a dump like lemmings, while all indicators point to a fast rise after the dump. Some people just suck at trading or just settle for a few satoshi profit...
We will know after eXo hits a major exchange and the mining is on it's way.
You're right, I forgot about it. So actually the price might be lower than IPO price.
I'm inclined to think so yes...
Think about it: 50 million coins in 6 months. That's 50,000,000 / 183 days = 273,224 coins on average to market every day!
That's got to have a negative effect on the price...
Holy crap, that's a lot.
April 23, 2014, 06:17:22 AM
mail applicants: each valid application will get at the moment 6,000,000 / 1500 people =~ 4,000 EXO (equals a 2nd stage investment of 0.033 BTC)
Note: mail applications have not been verified yet. So the number still can decreases or increases. The possibility to apply for the mail giveaway will end on 23th April 23:00:00 GMT.
Everything is fine, I agree with them except the mail applicants processor.
Firstly , as your said , each valid apply could get 4,000 exo -- equals a 2nd stage investment of 0.033 BTC, its absolutely not fair to those people who invest
less than 0.15 BTC ( may be 0.1 BTC ). These investors take risk and spend much time to this coin, but they get less than the email-giveaways. I cannot believable that.
Secondly , its no double that some people have several account at this forum, maybe 3 accounts, 10 accounts or even more, they did nothing but spent little
time to have a high value, and even steal our coin from investors , e.g:3 valid email applicants = 0.1 BTC, 30 applicants = 1 BTC ,as I mentioned above , this
could have a damage to the investors.
At last, I know the cheat phenomena cannot be prevented, so I recommend the best price of each should between 0.015 BTC and 0.02 BTC , it means the valid
at least 2500 people.But if the number cannot reached, we should reserve the remainder coin to those people who will help our ecnomicsystem and develop application for exoCoin, like Android wallet, build log..., and more.
By the way , we could regard those people who had gave suggestion and report debug as a valid email giveaway, We must thanks for those people.
Its my opinion.............
April 23, 2014, 06:17:14 AM
I am glad to see more and more people come here for discuss about eXocoin, some of us take care of price, some people pay attention to when its time to go
exchange and which one is better, others worry about the miner will have a bad effect on eXo price.
Thats ok. We will be successful in future. We are out community , we should make this coin popular.
I am sure it will be popular. just a little bit concerned about miner. any details about it?
April 23, 2014, 06:14:00 AM
Great, the list finally came out!
April 23, 2014, 06:13:06 AM
Congrats!!!!! What do you think will be the market cap of EXO
my guess same as NXT but 10 times less coins ( or 10 times nxt )
IPO price is 0.00000676 btc or $0.00335. No one takes part in IPO just to double investments, right? So I think that min post IPO price is 10 times higher, which means the lowest price might be 0.0000676 btc or $0.0335. It's $3'335'000 market cap.
Although of course I hope that stakeholders won't sell any significant amounts until the price is at least 20-30 cents.
There will also be mining, so depending on how hard / easy it is to mine eXo, that is what makes the price.
If miners are able to make a profit at 0.00000300, then I guesss they sell for 0.00000300. If it's at 200 sats, then they will sell at 200. Some just mine to make small profits and jump to another coin.
I've lost believe in the reason of people. Some follow a dump like lemmings, while all indicators point to a fast rise after the dump. Some people just suck at trading or just settle for a few satoshi profit...
We will know after eXo hits a major exchange and the mining is on it's way.
Based on your comment, I wonder how total mining timeframe will be regulated to a (exactly) 6 month period.
Either due to variable mining power it is not fixed for 6 month, or it will be with var diff.
The more miners, the higher is the difficulty, the smaller will the profit be...
if you have some freetime you can read the whitepaper regarding mining, 1 block every 10 minutes divided among the resolvers (if you find in 10 seconds you must wait till 10 minutes every time)
less the time you resolve the block, higher the share, you can also know how many blocks and how many exo per block
(6 months = 180 days = 4320 hours / 6 = 25920 blocks (50.000.000 exo / 25920 = 1929 exo x block every 10 minutes )
April 23, 2014, 05:51:42 AM
I am glad to see more and more people come here for discuss about eXocoin, some of us take care of price, some people pay attention to when its time to go
exchange and which one is better, others worry about the miner will have a bad effect on eXo price.
Thats ok. We will be successful in future. We are out community , we should make this coin popular.
April 23, 2014, 05:47:59 AM
will there be a mac wallet too?
April 23, 2014, 05:43:09 AM
+1.
The best exchange is by far bter.com.
Have you seen what happened with NXT after listing on bter.com?
Just a though.
The best exchange is by far bter.com.
Have you seen what happened with NXT after listing on bter.com?
Just a though.
true but it will be harder to get on bter.
If someone speaks chinese and have direct contact with bter, then they should try it
I can ask my girlfriend. Maybe she could talk to bter.com. She was helping me in a case with bter.com when my NXT-account was frozen.
Within 24 hours she solved that problem via QQ- the chinese instant messenger.
Hey man , dont worry, some of investors are Chinese, at least 300 people. We had built a QQ group to talk about eXocoin, we will try my best to spread eXo
into China and introduce this coin to bter and btc38 -- two famous exchange in China.
btc38 Id : btc38, profile: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/btc38-262888
bter Id : freeworm , profile https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=80096
So anyone could contact them to introduce our eXocoin.
By the way, if we are post everyday, eXocoin will be hottest , we can attract more and more people attention.
Lets go ...
April 23, 2014, 05:37:10 AM
There will also be mining, so depending on how hard / easy it is to mine eXo, that is what makes the price.
If miners are able to make a profit at 0.00000300, then I guesss they sell for 0.00000300. If it's at 200 sats, then they will sell at 200. Some just mine to make small profits and jump to another coin.
I've lost believe in the reason of people. Some follow a dump like lemmings, while all indicators point to a fast rise after the dump. Some people just suck at trading or just settle for a few satoshi profit...
We will know after eXo hits a major exchange and the mining is on it's way.
You're right, I forgot about it. So actually the price might be lower than IPO price.
I'm inclined to think so yes...
Think about it: 50 million coins in 6 months. That's 50,000,000 / 183 days = 273,224 coins on average to market every day!
That's got to have a negative effect on the price...
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