Topic: [POT]PotCoin - Banking for the Legal Cannabis Industry ✦ ✦ ✦Grow With Us ✦ ✦ ✦ - page 139. (Read 920138 times)

We are going to have to agree to disagree. Strongly. Choosing ANY other method of communication, in crypto, is avoiding communication at all. BTCT is where 99% of people come first and foremost. So, avoiding BTCT, purposedly or not, is, de facto, avoiding communication... regardless what you care or care not for.

The damage to the coin project is obvious, again, and to the network even more so, therefore there's absolutely no reason for not having the vias of communication fully open here (along with wherever else they feel their boat is rocked, no need for "exclusivity").

And yes, people who has any reasonably significant amount of money committed to POT and anchored "sine die" in the exchanges, has every reason to be angry and hostile for the reasons expressed above.

Related, but on a different note, Bittrex just started allowing withdrawals. Cryptsy still in limbo.

NO, there is not ample reason for hostility. The only reason you would be this angry is if you leveraged your mortgage to buy in hoping to become a millionaire overnight and thats not the way the world works.

Your still not getting it, they are posting it to reddit, there is no reason for them to post it "anywhere" except where they choose. The source of the info doesn't matter, what matters is that they are trying to be more communicative. I missed the galactic memo that states that BCT was where the devs of any coin have to keep the community updated, they could post it on myspace or friendster for all I care.

Do you understand now that the devs have no control over the exchanges? Its the exchanges who stand to lose out by not letting their customers withdraw funds.
In case you missed it, bittrex is coming back up, they are catching up to the chain and should be up and running shortly, with any luck cryptsy will come back online today as well.

Bittrex will be with us shortly, they are only a few blocks behind.
bittrex.com/status

NVM-Maybe, they are now "blocked". Not sure I like bittrex anymore

That's precisely the point of my "hostility": It should be posted here first. By the devs.

But the main point of my "hostility" is the obvious lack of foresight on the part of the devs that did nothing, FOR MONTHS, to prevent this incident that now lasts many weeks (and counting) and that is very seriously hurting the coin and the network.

Not to mention the lack of action regarding the concerns, or watever, Bittrex and Cryptsy have. "richiela" has posted very recently that they still have a problem with the wallet and the dev in that linked reddit posted -later- that they have told them what the solution is... which lens anyone reasonable to believe that "the solution" is not actually THE solution.

Apparently something similar is happening at Cryptsy for neither them nor Bittrex gain anything having the wallet down now for what could possibly be a record amount of time on both exchanges and, quite frankly, without any possibility of solution, seemingly, since it would appear that the devs have done everything they are willing to do and the exchanges are, also evidently, not getting anywhere with it.

I would think there's ample reason for hostility, don't you think?

@barabbas

In case your still not understanding me, here is a link to the discussion where someone from potcoin lets us know that have indeed contacted bittrex and told them what needs done.
https://www.reddit.com/r/potcoin/comments/3iie1b/waiting_on_bittrex/

Here is another one where davidpot, one of the devs let the world know that polo was back up. Did he post that here? No, I don't think he did.
https://www.reddit.com/r/potcoin/comments/3idzis/poloniex_exchange_back_online/

Once again your misinformed and plain wrong. The devs have no control over how long it takes for the exchanges to get their wallets synced and brought back online, or in the case of cryptsy for them to review the code before the resync and turn the wallet back on.  Again, if you paid attention to reddit or contacted the devs yourself, like I have, you would know what the deal is. I will repeat, the devs told bittrex to resync the wallet to get rid of the upgrade error. Maybe you are unaware of how long it can take to sync a blockchain from scratch without a bootstrap? It should take a day or 2, but it could take even longer. As for cryptsy, they are sitting on their hands like usual. I still don't understand how whats going on NOW is the devs fault. Yes, they borked the transition and if you had been on reddit and here you would have noted that I and others took them to task for it. However, the network is up and running on POSv and its working like it should, so again, how is it the devs fault that cryptsy and bitt are taking their sweet time?

Where are you getting this "months" thing? The official transition was supposed to happen 8 days ago, due to some borking of the wallet by the devs that was delayed by 3 days.
How is it the devs fault if the exchanges want to be cautious and wait for the blockchain and network to be moving smoothly before they enable their wallets? Do you expect them to risk customer funds by enabling a wallet earlier than they should? Who would you be blaming them if coins got sent into a blackhole?

Not sure why your all worked up and angry about cryptsy and bitt being offline, you can buy and trade pot at many other exchanges. From what I know, trex, polo, bleutrade are all up and working just fine. How much pot did you buy at 570 or so? That is the only reason your busting at the seams about this.

I understand "I disagree" fine. When stated. Point being that what is the disagreement? You seem to state that the impossibility of withdraw from bittrex and cryptsy is entirely the fault of bittrex and cryptsy and my point is -and hence the "hostility"- that it is not so and the the devs are significantly -if not totally- responsible for such a terrible, terrible situation. They knew what was potentially happening for months. They did nothing to clear things out for a seamless transition with bittrex and cryptsy, thus provoking this "limbo"-kind of situation that is extremely negative for POT, both on the market side and the network side. AND, to make things much worse, they don't say anything about the progress (??) of contacts with both exchanges to solve the situation.

And, again, it is HERE, a BTCTalk that people come for info, not to reedit or anywhere else. HERE. You bet I am quite hostile, as any significant holder of this coin should be, with this perfectly preventable absurd situation.

You probably staked and that reset your weight. Your weight is a combination of the # of coins you have and their age.

We are at a point in time where everyone wishes they could be after the fact. My mother talks about not investing in msft, apple, etc. Even with a shotgun approach to investing in crypto, as long as you keep your investments diversified, either you or your kids/grandkids have a very good chance at doing very well from the revolution that is happening right now.

We also happen to be at a very unique spot with respect to potcoin. As you point out the analytics line up in favor of potcoin doing great things value wise, so long as the stars align like they should. For those just tuning in, those analytics in short are, POT was the first "POT"coin, legal marijuana for both recreational and medicinal use is a niche market that could be worth billions if not trillions worldwide in very short order as the laws open up to allow it. As cryptoclub says, a couple of decent marijuana events where potlabs or others are pushing potcoin and we could see some decent investment. A couple other points that are tied together are the money supply and the inflation rate, POSv sets the rate at 6% if you stake 24/7, 5% if you open your wallet once in awhile to take some profits, BUT, the code is also set to share that entire 5-6% with all actively staking coins, this is a very strong incentive, IMO, for people to pull their coins off exchanges as well as keep their wallets running as much as possible. As for the supply, I believe pot happens to sit at a sweet spot supply wise, its enough to help mitigate bad actors playing with the price but its not too much to keep the overall value down over the long term.

Aside from a few small changes the devs need to make the code, IE the split threshold and preventing older wallets/other coins from connecting to the network, this coin will no doubt be solid as a rock as soon as bitt and cryptsy allow withdrawals. We are still behind where we should be with the blockchain but when we get up to speed the law of averages will make itself known and we will catch up soon enough.

my wallet.. 3000+ weight yesterday and 1 today?  

"POTcoin is one of those times where you can either take a risk and be part of the revolution or lose big time, OR you can do nothing and be able to gloat if it crashes but be kicking yourself for not investing."

Exactly, worth the risk. The competition also has issues and this was the first. If this coin is solid by the time some next bit Marijuana related events come around, almost certain to have some nice gains. If they actually end up getting used in a bunch of dispensaries, then the sky is the limit long term.

I am going setup the bootstrap to sync to another service as well, have it upload to box or bitcasa, etc. Box is probably the better choice as I have several 50gig accounts with them

What activation issues did you have with win10? My POS server refused to activate until they had reenabled the activation servers and I upgraded it to RTM.

Here is one more place where we DISAGREE. Some here see reddit as the armpit of the internet, to me BCT fills that role perfectly. The reason the discussion is happening at reddit is because questions/announcements/etc don't get drowned out by posts by angry people such as yourself, IE, you don't have to cover 500 pages to keep up with the conversation.

Do they have other methods for contact? I would exhaust every possible method before calling them out publicly. Do they have a twitter, google+, facebook, etc? Maybe making a public plea for them to contact you without giving any details would get you somewhere, if/when that fails, then call them out and start a thread here and on facebook, gethashing might be another place to post about it, your likely not the only one they are ignoring if indeed that is what they are doing.

A Google search of the right term will take you anywhere!

If you are looking for something, you will continue to look for the answer.

This is how we end up here or on Reddit!

I understand what "disagree" means, when it is written, not before. Especially when I believe we are all in agreement and, somehow, looking for a solution. That the Potlabs people may choose to post in reddit rather than here is just an exercise in absurdity for, again, extremely few people goes there so it is a BIG MISTAKE

Thank you for the coins. The posting was more to make aware that something amiss was happening during the transition from PoW to PoS.  The tranction was small for me, but I am not sure if others are lost in the blockchain.

Since I have not even received a responce from the mining pool, should I mention who is not responding to keeping the sanctity of the coin and the blockchain.

Do we expose the non-responding party, or just drop it as ancient history?

Anyone check out my PotCoin design t-shirt ? haha 

Let me know what you want to see and you'll be able to pay with PotCoin for it. Thanks!

LOL, liking your TLDR's 

As far as resyncing to get rid of the error I am in the process of doing so myself. It has taken longer than expected. I'm on day 2 with about 14 weeks to go on a wallet in the top 200.

It didn't help that the bootstrap download on the potcoin web site was/is broken. I know you offered an alternative but I decided to just do without since I didn't have time to mess around with it any longer...just now almost back online due to a Windows 10 activation issue   

Yes, I did get what you meant by POS. Did you not understand what "I disagree" means? It means I think your wrong. Where is this hostility coming from?
POTcoin is one of those times where you can either take a risk and be part of the revolution or lose big time, OR you can do nothing and be able to gloat if it crashes but be kicking yourself for not investing.

I will repeat, reddit IS where the discussion is happening. Maybe you haven't noticed but when someone from potlabs posts here they link to a reddit post. What does that tell you? Answer: The devs are active on reddit and not here. I will also repeat, its not the devs fault that cryptsy and bitt are being slow with bringing the wallet back online, they don't work for nor do they have any influence on how fast they get their wallets synced and back online. Bittrex should be up soon, they were told by the devs to resync from scratch to get rid of the upgrade error, that should have taken them a day or 2 so they should be back online sometime soon. As for cryptsy, who the hell knows, what I do know is that it is in the exchanges best interest to bring those wallets back online so that people can deposit/withdraw/trade and the exchanges can make their profit.

TLDR; Please calm the hell down and go smoke a bowl. Being angry with the world won't make things go the way you want them, you need to learn which battles to fight and which ones to just let go.