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Quote from: CaVO32 on September 16, 2021, 03:26:14 PM

Quote from: ShowOff on September 16, 2021, 11:36:14 AM

I have faith that prayer is the recommended thing to support success in action. But I don't think I have to pray to win the bet, this is very unnatural to me as I would obviously be guilty of my religious advice. I won't, and I'm just betting to please myself in my spare time. I just enjoy the game. Actually I am not too ambitious to win bets because this way can prevent me from spending a lot of money to enjoy the game. Having a limit is one that is recommended regardless of winning or losing.

Quote from: bitzizzix on September 16, 2021, 08:09:13 AM

It all depends on each other's beliefs and there are also those who pray before playing gambling which is believed to be able to help in achieving victory....

True, this really depends on each individual and his beliefs of spiritual.

With this aspect, I think, just respect each other's beliefs as mentioned many times. We have our own ways how to approach gambling, and some are really praying for the hope that they will win. It may be against their religion but everyone has their own freewill when it comes to this kind of practice. We have different religions here and it is all up to you how you live your life, so long you are not bothering anyone.

You are right!

This is something not a bothersome thing because we do have our own free will even though it is prohibited on some people due to religion but still they do decide to deal with it because they do like to then its their
personal choice and they are the ones who do commit such mistakes.

Prayer and gambling isnt really that correlated nor does affect winning chance thats why i could say that it isnt really that needed.

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Quote from: ShowOff on September 16, 2021, 11:36:14 AM

I have faith that prayer is the recommended thing to support success in action. But I don't think I have to pray to win the bet, this is very unnatural to me as I would obviously be guilty of my religious advice. I won't, and I'm just betting to please myself in my spare time. I just enjoy the game. Actually I am not too ambitious to win bets because this way can prevent me from spending a lot of money to enjoy the game. Having a limit is one that is recommended regardless of winning or losing.

Quote from: bitzizzix on September 16, 2021, 08:09:13 AM

It all depends on each other's beliefs and there are also those who pray before playing gambling which is believed to be able to help in achieving victory....

True, this really depends on each individual and his beliefs of spiritual.

With this aspect, I think, just respect each other's beliefs as mentioned many times. We have our own ways how to approach gambling, and some are really praying for the hope that they will win. It may be against their religion but everyone has their own freewill when it comes to this kind of practice. We have different religions here and it is all up to you how you live your life, so long you are not bothering anyone.

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In my place, oldies assumed gambling is supposed a devil's influence, so praying god for a win is basically contradicting and instead, you just pray for the devils to get a win. Well, that's nothing to do to other places, I bet, as beliefs are different in every place and culture.
Though I never prayed while gambling, I just rely on my luck as always.

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I have faith that prayer is the recommended thing to support success in action. But I don't think I have to pray to win the bet, this is very unnatural to me as I would obviously be guilty of my religious advice. I won't, and I'm just betting to please myself in my spare time. I just enjoy the game. Actually I am not too ambitious to win bets because this way can prevent me from spending a lot of money to enjoy the game. Having a limit is one that is recommended regardless of winning or losing.

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It all depends on each other's beliefs and there are also those who pray before playing gambling which is believed to be able to help in achieving victory....

True, this really depends on each individual and his beliefs of spiritual.

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I talked about it sometimes here but its not always luck, of course it plays a role but some games like poker are way more skill games than luck games
regarding praying, if we both play the same game and pray for the same god, god would favor one instead of the other? based on what?

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Make me smile when you ask that question Roll Eyes

? playing the same game and pray with same god? The one who wins received favor than the other, which implies that the one who win have a much deeper faith inside him.. Hahahah Grin

But the fact remains the same, there are people who are doing this. They have a supernatural belief that if they pray to some god, the winning chance will increase even there's no proven explanation or any relative information about this.

More on self claimed and for some, they just misinterpret luck to whatever things they believe in.

haha part of me agrees that when we think of it rationally makes no sense
but after reading "Autobiography of a Yogi" and having some out of body experiences part of me also believes in faith...

it's nice to be immersed on duality some times.

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It all depends on each other's beliefs and there are also those who pray before playing gambling which is believed to be able to help in achieving victory and there are also those who do not pray to God before playing gambling because gambling is haram, if you pray you will definitely lose or bring bad luck.
different from mantra or spiritual because it is a prayer outside of religious teachings and not good even though it will bring victory, in my opinion victory in gambling is not because of prayer but how people play it and master the game by playing without ambition and emotion and so on and playing calmly.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on September 16, 2021, 03:24:55 AM

When I was little kid I always asked my grandmum to pray for my favorite team and she would accept. Anytime they lose she would say "I forgot to pray that's why they lost" or if they win she would say "I prayed for them of course they would win". I told this story because when I grew up I realized praying is nothing more than finding reason for your long seek success. I regularly pray before my bets.

Nice and good story that you've experienced when you were a little kid. Your grandma was just telling you that to give you some relief. I used to have some relatives that's also like that but it's not about gambling and praying. But to that point that has a similarity of your story.

Quote from: Pierre 2 on September 16, 2021, 03:24:55 AM

I am always like "I will donate some please God" even if I am atheist. It makes you feel better.

Well, everyone can pray regardless of your belief.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on September 16, 2021, 03:24:55 AM

When I was little kid I always asked my grandmum to pray for my favorite team and she would accept. Anytime they lose she would say "I forgot to pray that's why they lost" or if they win she would say "I prayed for them of course they would win". I told this story because when I grew up I realized praying is nothing more than finding reason for your long seek success. I regularly pray before my bets. I am always like "I will donate some please God" even if I am atheist. It makes you feel better.

Some old gamblers can pray before they place their bet and among them, that is normal as they already did that from a long time ago. And if someone asked them why they did that, that old gambler will tell me that I need to pray to my God and hope my favorite team can win. But from your story, I think you are not alone because I think some gamblers will say the same as you and want to donate some to needy people. I think that will not be a problem and that will be up to them.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on September 16, 2021, 03:24:55 AM

When I was little kid I always asked my grandmum to pray for my favorite team and she would accept. Anytime they lose she would say "I forgot to pray that's why they lost" or if they win she would say "I prayed for them of course they would win". I told this story because when I grew up I realized praying is nothing more than finding reason for your long seek success. I regularly pray before my bets. I am always like "I will donate some please God" even if I am atheist. It makes you feel better.

At least you realized that your Grandma is a Liar lol, She is pretending to be praying but the truth is Not and also She is only relying in what the outcome of the event and not totally in what Her faith does.
it is like our elders tell us about ghost but the truth is they don't even seen one but they let us believe just to scare us everytime they wanted us to do something or follow them in their strict rules .

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When I was little kid I always asked my grandmum to pray for my favorite team and she would accept. Anytime they lose she would say "I forgot to pray that's why they lost" or if they win she would say "I prayed for them of course they would win". I told this story because when I grew up I realized praying is nothing more than finding reason for your long seek success. I regularly pray before my bets. I am always like "I will donate some please God" even if I am atheist. It makes you feel better.

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It depends on their belief and on our belief. If they think that it's going to help them, are we going to stop them? we just let them what they think is going to help them increase their chance of winning.

People believes in God but they should not think it is their God that will help when it comes to gambling, even some religions like the Muslims are against gambling while even many other religions that do not against it do not encourage it, gambling should not in any way be related to prayer because many people will be disappointed if they are expecting something good to come out. But I do not still believe some people can be praying all because they want to gamble, gambling is just for fun and not a way of making money or what someone should take serious.

It is between their beliefs and trust and faith , Gamblers are in different culture and they have different Gods and how they treat them.
But for me in the end of everything? it is the Luck that brings them win and nothing to do with their Gods.

You right, for people who have a religion of course praying before doing something is an obligation for them regardless of whatever actions they do, praying in my opinion will give us strength and also peace so that it will certainly increase our confidence, I've seen several people even tried a special ritual before gambling but I don't know if it will help them win or not.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on September 16, 2021, 01:49:41 AM

Quote from: boyptc on September 13, 2021, 06:48:28 PM

It depends on their belief and on our belief. If they think that it's going to help them, are we going to stop them? we just let them what they think is going to help them increase their chance of winning.

People believes in God but they should not think it is their God that will help when it comes to gambling, even some religions like the Muslims are against gambling while even many other religions that do not against it do not encourage it, gambling should not in any way be related to prayer because many people will be disappointed if they are expecting something good to come out. But I do not still believe some people can be praying all because they want to gamble, gambling is just for fun and not a way of making money or what someone should take serious.

It is between their beliefs and trust and faith , Gamblers are in different culture and they have different Gods and how they treat them.
But for me in the end of everything? it is the Luck that brings them win and nothing to do with their Gods.

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Quote from: boyptc on September 13, 2021, 06:48:28 PM

It depends on their belief and on our belief. If they think that it's going to help them, are we going to stop them? we just let them what they think is going to help them increase their chance of winning.

People believes in God but they should not think it is their God that will help when it comes to gambling, even some religions like the Muslims are against gambling while even many other religions that do not against it do not encourage it, gambling should not in any way be related to prayer because many people will be disappointed if they are expecting something good to come out. But I do not still believe some people can be praying all because they want to gamble, gambling is just for fun and not a way of making money or what someone should take serious.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on September 15, 2021, 03:40:42 PM

I talked about it sometimes here but its not always luck, of course it plays a role but some games like poker are way more skill games than luck games
regarding praying, if we both play the same game and pray for the same god, god would favor one instead of the other? based on what?

totally worth watching this Indian movie on Netflix: PK
quite interesting takes on Religion

Make me smile when you ask that question Roll Eyes

? playing the same game and pray with same god? The one who wins received favor than the other, which implies that the one who win have a much deeper faith inside him.. Hahahah Grin

But the fact remains the same, there are people who are doing this. They have a supernatural belief that if they pray to some god, the winning chance will increase even there's no proven explanation or any relative information about this.

More on self claimed and for some, they just misinterpret luck to whatever things they believe in.

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really interesting topic Grin

it reminds me of a Brazilian music by "emicida" which sings: "it's crazy how it almost never works, but pray"

tricky one since sometimes it could all be just a big coincidence, but in this case won't hurt either so, why not?

We can really try and there’s no bad in praying, just don’t expect that much because most of the gamblers are also praying to win. We also have this culture since we’re a Catholic country majority of us, so we’re praying for everything including to win in gambling, and there’s no bad effect of this one just don’t depend on it and accept that in gambling, luck is still the key to win.

I talked about it sometimes here but its not always luck, of course it plays a role but some games like poker are way more skill games than luck games
regarding praying, if we both play the same game and pray for the same god, god would favor one instead of the other? based on what?

totally worth watching this Indian movie on Netflix: PK
quite interesting takes on Religion

That would be a big question which should really be answered yet we do pray on the same God which means who would really be favored out?This simply implies that prayer wont really fit out on asking out some luck
or winning chance in gambling or even in simple things in life that do involve some decisioning because we cant really tell if there are divine intervention or involvement on every outcome or results that
we do encounter thats why we shouldnt really mind off that much that it is really that connected but it isnt really bad if you do have this kind of beliefs.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on September 14, 2021, 04:27:53 PM

really interesting topic Grin

it reminds me of a Brazilian music by "emicida" which sings: "it's crazy how it almost never works, but pray"

tricky one since sometimes it could all be just a big coincidence, but in this case won't hurt either so, why not?

We can really try and there’s no bad in praying, just don’t expect that much because most of the gamblers are also praying to win. We also have this culture since we’re a Catholic country majority of us, so we’re praying for everything including to win in gambling, and there’s no bad effect of this one just don’t depend on it and accept that in gambling, luck is still the key to win.

I talked about it sometimes here but its not always luck, of course it plays a role but some games like poker are way more skill games than luck games
regarding praying, if we both play the same game and pray for the same god, god would favor one instead of the other? based on what?

totally worth watching this Indian movie on Netflix: PK
quite interesting takes on Religion

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Quote from: alegotardo on September 13, 2021, 05:49:05 AM

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Prayers don't work if you don't work towards achieving it and I don't think that praying and gambling is a thing that's never ever going to mix, the people who do those kind of things are just making sense and trying to remove their responsibility when it comes to gambling and losing.

People who have faith in something are more likely to get something.
Even for those who don't believe that "something else" can intervene for you, praying gives the person more motivation to try to reach that goal and we know that this is very important to achieve a result.

Of course, in gambling this can be more bad than good because if we are on a losing streak, sticking to the game can cause us to lose everything faster.
The best thing in these cases is to pray away from the computer.

I am not a fan of praying to win in the game, as I understand that the things of commerce and games are very different from what has to do with God the Heavenly Father, but I do know many players who are in my country who attend séances For those spirits to show them the way in games of chance, the truth is that their results are very varied, if they usually win, but later I see them that they fall into vice or are in bad conditions, really these things in my view are very delicate and these types of energies should not be mixed because sometimes it is not known what type of energy can expand, generally the results are bad.

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Quote from: alpamar99 on September 13, 2021, 04:40:59 AM

maybe for some people such an action is still in a reasonable stage and it's legal but if we look at it from a religious perspective which incidentally is still considered very sacred by some people, of course, I think this can be said to be unethical because at least they are still understand between sin and not (in religion).
and in some religions gambling is not allowed which in that sense is a sin.
logically if you refer to it alone, it would be very illogical to commit a sin but pray first.

On the side of religions, this isn't really good and cannot be tolerated. But, they can do something with that? no, they can't. Are they going to abandon the person they caught praying and gambling at the same time? for what? they won't.
In reality, it's a thing that's being done for many things before doing it and people tend to do that because they're not religious but because they also have a belief in life that it will make them have a good result but it's up to the One that they pray for if their prayers will be heard but with this discussion, it's unlikely that He won't.

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really interesting topic Grin

it reminds me of a Brazilian music by "emicida" which sings: "it's crazy how it almost never works, but pray"

tricky one since sometimes it could all be just a big coincidence, but in this case won't hurt either so, why not?

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For a second there I thought this was a topic about putting bets on who's prayers will get answered XD I'd actually go for that. As for praying for results, I doub't God watches the third Iranian women's basketball division.

Sounds sarcastic but true. No matter how and whom we pray to, if it isn't our luck to win in gambling, then we couldn't win it because if prayer is powerful even in gambling, then religious and prayerful gamblers should've been rich now. Gambling has nothing to do with our religious beliefs.

I know many Muslims who pray before important work. Prayer, whether it is asking for something or praising God, is a kind of ritual to lift one's spirit, motivation, concentration and attention. If someone believes that prayer helps them, why not? Each of us has our own religious views and preferences.

But if you see from the Muslim rules myself I think it doesn't really suit it even seems more degrading if we pray but do that is not good and prohibited in the religion. Because in Muslims there are a lot of prohibition in several aspects including gambling, and praying before which is indeed a sacred ritual will certainly demean the sacredness of the religion.

Lets just respect because every religion does have its own prohibitions and other things but on general sense having prayer attached to gambling is a personal kind of choice or perception and no one could really stop
you if you do ever consider on having that kind of belief in mind.Thing here is that you do believe into something that it works but honestly it has nothing to do with activities that we are involved in to specially in gambling.
Luck is something that cant really be influenced by prayer but once you do make out some prayer and you won then we would already believe that it is working.

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