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For a second there I thought this was a topic about putting bets on who's prayers will get answered XD I'd actually go for that. As for praying for results, I doub't God watches the third Iranian women's basketball division.

Sounds sarcastic but true. No matter how and whom we pray to, if it isn't our luck to win in gambling, then we couldn't win it because if prayer is powerful even in gambling, then religious and prayerful gamblers should've been rich now. Gambling has nothing to do with our religious beliefs.

I know many Muslims who pray before important work. Prayer, whether it is asking for something or praising God, is a kind of ritual to lift one's spirit, motivation, concentration and attention. If someone believes that prayer helps them, why not? Each of us has our own religious views and preferences.

But if you see from the Muslim rules myself I think it doesn't really suit it even seems more degrading if we pray but do that is not good and prohibited in the religion. Because in Muslims there are a lot of prohibition in several aspects including gambling, and praying before which is indeed a sacred ritual will certainly demean the sacredness of the religion.

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Quote from: boyptc on September 13, 2021, 07:48:28 PM

Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on September 13, 2021, 06:12:20 AM

Prayers don't work if you don't work towards achieving it and I don't think that praying and gambling is a thing that's never ever going to mix, the people who do those kind of things are just making sense and trying to remove their responsibility when it comes to gambling and losing.

Well, as you see that there really are gamblers that do mix it.

It depends on their belief and on our belief. If they think that it's going to help them, are we going to stop them? we just let them what they think is going to help them increase their chance of winning.

Agreed, we are not responsible for others beliefs but in this case we just ignore them (like we didn't see it) because we deeply think that it's not logic and can be defined as another kind of betting. Yes those relegious gamblers bet on a much then bet that thei god will give a help hand; if he wins then god loves him and this is why he helped him and if he loses this means that god is angry and won't ever win if god doesn't interfer. A kind of Psychological satisfaction especially when he is about to lose a money that he can't afford to lose .

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Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on September 13, 2021, 06:12:20 AM

Prayers don't work if you don't work towards achieving it and I don't think that praying and gambling is a thing that's never ever going to mix, the people who do those kind of things are just making sense and trying to remove their responsibility when it comes to gambling and losing.

Well, as you see that there really are gamblers that do mix it.

It depends on their belief and on our belief. If they think that it's going to help them, are we going to stop them? we just let them what they think is going to help them increase their chance of winning.

Agreed, and there's nothing wrong with it because it can boost your morale and faith, both of which can lead to good fortune. There are gamblers who purchase tokens or other items that they hope will bring them luck, such as a totem. They hope to find a totem that will bring them luck and boost their confidence in playing, much like praying. Though anything you do while gambling is acceptable, cheating is not.

Yes.

It really boosts the morale of those gamblers that do it. But for me, I don't do it because my faith is different and I don't want to attach it with gambling.

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You never know what kind of prayer is answered and not, and therefore I think whether the result is win or lose it doesn't matter anymore. In fact, when you don't pray the result will still be the same whether you win or lose. So in this case, whatever they believe in and pray or not, it won't matter either because it is about belief and not about the result whether the prayer is answered or not.

Prayers don't work if you don't work towards achieving it and I don't think that praying and gambling is a thing that's never ever going to mix, the people who do those kind of things are just making sense and trying to remove their responsibility when it comes to gambling and losing.

Yes, it is no problem if we want to pray or not because that will be up to us.
Some people prefer to pray before gamble while other playing gambling without praying.
Besides that, when someone prays before gamble, I do not think another gambler will know because that person can pray from inside his heart and never telling to other people.
So that does not matter to pray before gambling and if it is related to gambling, everyone knows that gambling is prohibited in most religions.

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Quote from: boyptc on September 13, 2021, 07:48:28 PM

Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on September 13, 2021, 06:12:20 AM

Prayers don't work if you don't work towards achieving it and I don't think that praying and gambling is a thing that's never ever going to mix, the people who do those kind of things are just making sense and trying to remove their responsibility when it comes to gambling and losing.

Well, as you see that there really are gamblers that do mix it.

It depends on their belief and on our belief. If they think that it's going to help them, are we going to stop them? we just let them what they think is going to help them increase their chance of winning.

Agreed, and there's nothing wrong with it because it can boost your morale and faith, both of which can lead to good fortune. There are gamblers who purchase tokens or other items that they hope will bring them luck, such as a totem. They hope to find a totem that will bring them luck and boost their confidence in playing, much like praying. Though anything you do while gambling is acceptable, cheating is not.

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Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on September 13, 2021, 06:12:20 AM

Prayers don't work if you don't work towards achieving it and I don't think that praying and gambling is a thing that's never ever going to mix, the people who do those kind of things are just making sense and trying to remove their responsibility when it comes to gambling and losing.

Well, as you see that there really are gamblers that do mix it.

It depends on their belief and on our belief. If they think that it's going to help them, are we going to stop them? we just let them what they think is going to help them increase their chance of winning.

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Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on September 13, 2021, 06:12:20 AM

Prayers don't work if you don't work towards achieving it and I don't think that praying and gambling is a thing that's never ever going to mix, the people who do those kind of things are just making sense and trying to remove their responsibility when it comes to gambling and losing.

People who have faith in something are more likely to get something.
Even for those who don't believe that "something else" can intervene for you, praying gives the person more motivation to try to reach that goal and we know that this is very important to achieve a result.

Of course, in gambling this can be more bad than good because if we are on a losing streak, sticking to the game can cause us to lose everything faster.
The best thing in these cases is to pray away from the computer.

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Quote from: hahay on September 13, 2021, 03:52:38 AM

Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on September 13, 2021, 03:42:45 AM

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You never know what kind of prayer is answered and not, and therefore I think whether the result is win or lose it doesn't matter anymore. In fact, when you don't pray the result will still be the same whether you win or lose. So in this case, whatever they believe in and pray or not, it won't matter either because it is about belief and not about the result whether the prayer is answered or not.

Prayers don't work if you don't work towards achieving it and I don't think that praying and gambling is a thing that's never ever going to mix, the people who do those kind of things are just making sense and trying to remove their responsibility when it comes to gambling and losing.

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Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

I pray a lot and I'm also praying when placing a bet or rolling a dice, it doesn't matter if I win or not the most important is I am putting faith in my belief and the almighty, you can pray in any situation any place and any condition, it's beneficial in both body and mind and I don't see anything wrong why you should pray when gambling.

Yes, indeed. There will be up to you or people whether they want to pray to God and ask for help to win the games or never pray to God when they are gambling. If they believe that can help them and give them confidence, they can still pray without listening to what other people say. When we play gambling, we are free to do what we want, as long as we do not break the rule in the casino.

Don’t see anything wrong here since we all have beliefs and we have to respect it, though this may look greedy for me but still, this is a gambling choice and honestly, we always pray for a positive result even on our trading activities so technically, we pray to get what we want but in reality we should not expect that much by just praying, you still have to act.

Yes, nothing wrong here. It is about different perceptions about praying in gambling or just playing gambling without praying because with or without praying, we still do not know if we can win the game or lose the game. Gambling is just a show and we are part of it and out of that, that will be up to every person and as long as it is okay with them, it will not be a problem at all.

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Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on September 11, 2021, 01:37:18 PM

Yeah I think this is still reasonable. even a sinner and a crime may also pray before doing the action. that only belief makes a person feel better and confident to do something. when it comes to facts, there is absolutely no connection between prayer and gambling. like someone using lucky charm and so on.

maybe for some people such an action is still in a reasonable stage and it's legal but if we look at it from a religious perspective which incidentally is still considered very sacred by some people, of course, I think this can be said to be unethical because at least they are still understand between sin and not (in religion).
and in some religions gambling is not allowed which in that sense is a sin.
logically if you refer to it alone, it would be very illogical to commit a sin but pray first.

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Quote from: hahay on September 13, 2021, 03:52:38 AM

Those prayers were never answered, they were just coincidental and it's just a way of human mind to cope with things because everyone is desperate for meaning and they want to find at least one in any situation.

If you are a devout and a religious man you do not expect that all prayers will be answered, it's better to be just thankful and let the Almighty decides what's best for you, it's ok to pray when you are rolling dice, there's no unwanted prayer when we pray we testify the existence of the Almighty, I do this sometimes when playing and in dire need of winning but I never expect to win, win or lose I accept the results, it's gambling it could go either way.

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Everyone has the right to their own belief. I know despite your religion there is a way of doing your own meditation and prayer which could be different from another gambler, and they are times you just need to win a bet and you unconsciously do some mediatation before placing a bet and trusting some divine power to assist your effort with a win. I guess every gambler encounters this at some point despite your what your beliefs are

Those prayers were never answered, they were just coincidental and it's just a way of human mind to cope with things because everyone is desperate for meaning and they want to find at least one in any situation.

You never know what kind of prayer is answered and not, and therefore I think whether the result is win or lose it doesn't matter anymore. In fact, when you don't pray the result will still be the same whether you win or lose. So in this case, whatever they believe in and pray or not, it won't matter either because it is about belief and not about the result whether the prayer is answered or not.

Yeah, I'm always lucky on bets, and I didn't say or do any prayers before betting. I don't pray just to win a bet because, first and foremost, I believe it's wrong because we're the ones who decide our faith in this world through our actions, so if we're having a losing streak, it's our fault, and prayers that aren't heard aren't to blame because it has nothing to do with gambling in the first place, and it won't increase the probability of winning.

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Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on September 13, 2021, 03:42:45 AM

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Everyone has the right to their own belief. I know despite your religion there is a way of doing your own meditation and prayer which could be different from another gambler, and they are times you just need to win a bet and you unconsciously do some mediatation before placing a bet and trusting some divine power to assist your effort with a win. I guess every gambler encounters this at some point despite your what your beliefs are

Those prayers were never answered, they were just coincidental and it's just a way of human mind to cope with things because everyone is desperate for meaning and they want to find at least one in any situation.

You never know what kind of prayer is answered and not, and therefore I think whether the result is win or lose it doesn't matter anymore. In fact, when you don't pray the result will still be the same whether you win or lose. So in this case, whatever they believe in and pray or not, it won't matter either because it is about belief and not about the result whether the prayer is answered or not.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on September 13, 2021, 02:05:59 AM

Everyone has the right to their own belief. I know despite your religion there is a way of doing your own meditation and prayer which could be different from another gambler, and they are times you just need to win a bet and you unconsciously do some mediatation before placing a bet and trusting some divine power to assist your effort with a win. I guess every gambler encounters this at some point despite your what your beliefs are

Those prayers were never answered, they were just coincidental and it's just a way of human mind to cope with things because everyone is desperate for meaning and they want to find at least one in any situation.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on June 05, 2021, 02:35:04 PM

Often times in my country, i have visited a sports betting shop to place my bet, and each time before I am about to do so, i always look out to the other service booths where bettings are received for other other individuals placing their bets as well.

Each time, i notice that out of the five service booths in this sports betting shop, it is common to see two or sometimes three individuals out of the five occupying the service booths always bow their head and mutter some words solemnly, a prayer i suppose.

Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

Praying and and betting works. What you believe works for you

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Everyone has the right to their own belief. I know despite your religion there is a way of doing your own meditation and prayer which could be different from another gambler, and they are times you just need to win a bet and you unconsciously do some mediatation before placing a bet and trusting some divine power to assist your effort with a win. I guess every gambler encounters this at some point despite your what your beliefs are

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Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

I pray a lot and I'm also praying when placing a bet or rolling a dice, it doesn't matter if I win or not the most important is I am putting faith in my belief and the almighty, you can pray in any situation any place and any condition, it's beneficial in both body and mind and I don't see anything wrong why you should pray when gambling.

Yes, indeed. There will be up to you or people whether they want to pray to God and ask for help to win the games or never pray to God when they are gambling. If they believe that can help them and give them confidence, they can still pray without listening to what other people say. When we play gambling, we are free to do what we want, as long as we do not break the rule in the casino.

Don’t see anything wrong here since we all have beliefs and we have to respect it, though this may look greedy for me but still, this is a gambling choice and honestly, we always pray for a positive result even on our trading activities so technically, we pray to get what we want but in reality we should not expect that much by just praying, you still have to act.

i think most people do this act as it is already part of his routine. pray when you want something, even if it is not according to the teachings of his religion. as you said, just respect each other's beliefs. so long you are not harming anyone, you're fine. it is your own life anyway.
but tbh, prayer doesn't influence your gambling results. it is just psychological effect on some people who won and attested that they prayed hard for it.

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Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

I pray a lot and I'm also praying when placing a bet or rolling a dice, it doesn't matter if I win or not the most important is I am putting faith in my belief and the almighty, you can pray in any situation any place and any condition, it's beneficial in both body and mind and I don't see anything wrong why you should pray when gambling.

Yes, indeed. There will be up to you or people whether they want to pray to God and ask for help to win the games or never pray to God when they are gambling. If they believe that can help them and give them confidence, they can still pray without listening to what other people say. When we play gambling, we are free to do what we want, as long as we do not break the rule in the casino.

Don’t see anything wrong here since we all have beliefs and we have to respect it, though this may look greedy for me but still, this is a gambling choice and honestly, we always pray for a positive result even on our trading activities so technically, we pray to get what we want but in reality we should not expect that much by just praying, you still have to act.

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I pray a lot and I'm also praying when placing a bet or rolling a dice, it doesn't matter if I win or not the most important is I am putting faith in my belief and the almighty, you can pray in any situation any place and any condition, it's beneficial in both body and mind and I don't see anything wrong why you should pray when gambling.

Are you a buddhist?

I've known people on that religion that prays to have good luck as they gamble and they always do that before they gamble. I've seen one how they do it personally so it's not really questionable if you do that.

Not only buddhist pray but there are many other religions who pray to their god. I am a Muslim and i also pray to God as he is the one who have given us life and he controls everything.

However we don't pray for winning in gambling and all such stuff related to gambling / speculation etc.

Because Islam forbids it for people to gamble, so some of our activities in gambling, I think praying is not necessary because what we know is that this is a violation of religious rules.

But I always pray when doing something good, even at every step to be given health by the almighty god.

But in gambling I never do.
What I do is just focus when betting.

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Quote from: tz on September 08, 2021, 02:54:21 AM

If you think that praying will give you better odds, you're delusional.

Most religions don't condone gambling so why the hell would they respond to prayers in gambling? That absolutely makes no sense.

But empirically there is no correlation - everything is mathematically determined and has nothing to do with your psychology, and the odds are stacked against you due to that.

Core gamblers are the type that is always difficult to persuade and are always the prayerful type, but they are also the ones with the highest probability of winning, the odds are always in their favour, and they are always prayerful, but their belief that gambling a small amount of money will make them rich overnight is a willful delusion. How do you expect to earn thousands of dollars with a single wager and prayer? They are extremely familiar with every bet, but the fact is that they need more money to obtain more money unless they are the kind to come across that unusual luck in gambling.
Coming to the prayer part, you know how we as humans prefer to hope when we are anticipating anything. Instead of tossing a coin, they would rather hope on prayer to determine their faith and mankind has always hope in God and hence, this may not be mathematically proven but it helps many people and eases their way through difficult times. Some claim that prayer works for those who believe; if you believe in stone, it may be your guide amid difficult decision-making and anxiety.

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