Topic: PRCDice.eu - Largest Dice invest site - Open since 2013! Chat, Play, Invest! - page 5. (Read 89255 times)

I never said anything about or referring to you in the chat. I posted a while after ricky's and melds discussion/shitaifan2013 posted here. All I was meaning is there's obviously people who just sits in chat and post screenshots when something comes up as evident throughout this thread.

I don't know what ricky was referring to with the talk in Asia. I only said that rickys chat was not related to what he had posted in this thread so didn't know why shitaifan2013 posted it. I wasn't hinting at you being shitaifan2013 or anything.

Did you see the chat that followed?



Dean, you keep talking about wanting to be on good terms, but then when ricky spreads his "doog = nakowa" lies in your chat and someone posts a screenshot here, look how you respond!

There isn't some secret conspiracy of bitcointalk accounts trying to make PRC look bad. I'm not shitaifan2013. He was pointing out the kind of crap that continues to go on in your site's trollbox, and I appreciate it. I've never been to anywhere Asia other than Egypt and Israel, I don't give talks, and ricky is just making up lies to try to make me look bad. That's no surprise, and seems to be his general style - see above where he continues to personally attack espringe.

I really dont think you're doing prc any favor with spreading such nonsense, since most people reading this thread or visiting the trollbox will associate you with dean/prc.

just as another example what I'm referring to: http://i.imgur.com/Cuv5ZFD.jpg

PRC will keep dooglus happy because PRC knows that with his negative trust site will die. I don't think prc will pay bay or fin. PRC owner is greedy.

Maybe I'm naive but I don't believe anyone would be stupid enough to pay BAC for that. They could as easily buy all the PRC domains (why would they ever do this anyway?) and redirect them to their site. This makes absolutely no sense.

So basically we have finnile who's a grubby little shit stirrer who decided to go against protocol and fuck himself for the sake of drama. His own fault

Then we have BAC who is a whiny child who cannot see anything he has done wrong, be it ripping off the PRC name or using his domain to let future players know that Dean isn't trustworthy and redirects to competitor sites.

Then we have some amazing advice from user "espringe" who is seemingly cool with his site being bankrolled by conmen and theives. Gotta love the bitcointalk community, a bunch of stand up folk.

And yet you brought up the issue of Dean's trust without checking the facts...

Guys it just isn't worth talking about.

I only bought the domain because Dean muted me for linking Bitcointalk.org because he said he didn't want links to other Bitcoin places in the troll box... because all the Bitcoins should be there.  So I took my time out from the troll box to find out the .com was open and then I bought it .  So I wasn't like just lurking on the site and chose to be a fucker.  I don't want someone to compare my character to someone who buys out nonprofit local charities domains prior.... I was provoked from the start.

I put more time in that I should have for Dean by posting around and in JD chat.  It is what it is.  I don't want his coins and I don't even like thinking about the guy.

I have been on the site, since the dice started. I didn't care if Dean paid me later on. But, I had to request it before, incase any changes were made to the database to cover up for those skipped bets(which at the time, was a UI error, and I had no reason to believe why it couldn't just be missed nonces)

Incase, I had asked dicebitco.in for a bounty, and didn't post the video before, they could easily activate a kill switch which would automatically cover up for those missing rolls. They could have refused to any such activity happening, and it would still be running well, and no one would believe any of what I said.
 I was not even paid a bounty for dicebitco.in, just because, I didn't wait for the site owner to come online, and tell him about the problem. manl refused a payment to me, for the same reason, that I went public with it first. But do you think, it was right for me, to not go public?
I am not a computer geek, and wouldn't have any ways of proving any of the problems later.

Dean has paid Doog 1 BTC in the end. You can read that in https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9565937

I was talking about the site that paid him to redirect. To be more clear, BAC redirects to a competitor, because that competitor paid BAC to do it.

Anyway, I hope this whole thing gets sorted out in the end.

Yeh, I could agree with that. Although on a "traditional affiliate network" upon canceling of the "affiliate agreement" existing customers wouldn't generate affiliating revenues anymore either. And with that domain he wouldn't get any revenue ever at all to begin with. But again, obviously there were no "official terms" here.

In the end I am not completely agreeing with Dean btw since there were no official terms. Just saying I cannot blame him either. Hope that makes sense xD



Overall this is BTW about such a small amount (0.01 or less?) that it is just a bit silly

I would agree that Dean might have a case for terminating the affiliate agreement for new sign ups, if the original terms were really "any party can end this at any time". But there is no reason other than extreme butthurt to refuse payment for existing players. BAC brought them in, Dean is taking the revenue, BAC should get his cut, is there any flaw in this logic?

Lol KOS, the "expert scammer", did you pay the 2 BTC back to BigBitz yet? Or you still talking BS about "USD value" on a BTC loan?

1. Dooglus have been given a 1 BTC bounty. I would agree this should have been sooner, but "ah well".

2. In the "real world" as you like to state it, affiliation networks have a long list of terms, this almost always includes:

- Cannot use brand name or typos of it in URL
- Cannot use brand name or typos of it in paid search
- Website/blog have to register to the program, after this the website/blog is checked/reviewed if it "fits their brand". If accepted, the website/blog can be removed from the program later for any reason (this would probably include calling the website a scam, etc.)
- And many other terms.

I don't know how many websites you had before and how many affiliation networks you joined, but I can promise you these are very normal terms. Of course officially there were no terms here, so in theory the "website/blog" (BAC) can do what he wants, but in theory PRC can also do what he wants, I guess.

Personally I would pay BAC just to get no drama. But considering: BAC got the affiliates with a domain with his "brand name", he said on that website PRC is a scam and he is now redirecting that site to a competitor.. I personally cannot really blame Dean for not paying BAC. Obviously clear terms would have solved this issue in the first place.


Besides all this, and this is not personally meant about BAC, but I BTW think those "domain dealers" are the lowest of the "legal internet business world". Reminds me of a former classmate who registered expired domains from local (non-profit) sport clubs and then demanded 500 euro for it. IMO that is just wrong and my classmate could better spend time in actually creating websites. But I guess my classmate was not really good in that. "Officially" there is probably nothing wrong with it (actually if the company is registered it is very questionable.) And obviously in this case it is a stupid mistake to not register that .com in the first place.

3. finnile demanded the bounty "now" before it was fixed. No bug bounty program would give you a bounty before it's fixed. It doesn't work that way. Since finnile didn't want to follow normal bug bounty procedures, he didn't get paid. His mistake, not Dean's mistake.

HOw much was the bounty given to you sir doog?

What do you mean by "as promo, not for traffic"? If BAC's site displayed info/ad of your site, then you could call it promo. But if it auto re-directs to your site, then it's all about traffic, isn't it?

If you paid him to do that, it's considered as rather dirty move. If that's how you want to play - fine, but why act all-innocent?

In case you missed my post in this thread, Dean did eventually pay me the bounty, and I changed the trust feedback to "neutral".


Thanks for the warning, but I already withdrew the bounty payment. I don't leave my coins with third parties for long any more, whoever they are.

There have been 2-3 examples of how Dean is untrustworthy.

1) Dooglus, he asked for his help finding a bug, and when he found said bug he didn't even give anything as a nice gesture. Who was at risk here? Dean and the investors. Dooglus should get a reward of some kind, not sure on the amount but the fact that not even $1 was offered in compensation and acts like it absurd to pay someone for finding his mistake is the first reason.

2) Bayareacoins said his opinion of the owner. He said he was on Dooglus's side and owned a website that he used to spread his rights of free speech. This is the internet. However, Bayarea had referred many users and investors to PRC and because of an unrelated issue Dean decides to cancel his affiliate account and payments. In the real world, this would immediately result in a lawsuit. You can't retract out of business with someone once things have been agreed upon (the affiliate rate and prize for bringing in customers) just because you've pissed people off including the person doing business with. Thats like saying a shark on the famous show Shark Tank buys 10% of the company and then believes a marketing strategy isn't the best way to go. THEN, you say, you are against me so I take back my 10%....It doesn't work that way. Dean is a liar and in my opinion a small-time scammer at this point. He refuses to payout debts owed and agreed upon based upon opinions being said which isn't reason to cancel out an agreement.

3) Finn as above was offered 1 BTC for finding a bug or error. He agreed to 1 BTC but based on previous bad business examples done by Dean he asked for payment up front. Instead Dean lies and says he asked for more and refuses to pay him. This is an example of Dean lying AGAIN and refusing to pay out offered amounts. Thus, again a scammer.

In my opinion, if everyone were to withdraw their money from PRCdice all at once, Dean would run with the money. He would blame the world for his site's failure and exclaim "You all owe me for the work I've done for the site and thus I deserve your funds". That would be the logic I truly think he would display as thats the type of immature person I take him as.

I've stayed out of this and have never once played or invested on PRCdice and after taking a good 30-60 minutes reading up on this and taking up both sides, I can truly say, I believe Dean will run eventually because he'll think he "deserves" it.

Just my thoughts. You all (investors) have been warned...

It's like you can't even read. The guy I was responding to is calling PRC a scam but at the same time thinks it's okay to try and get more people to use dice.ninja (a known scam). How many people in this thread right now are just sock puppet accounts trying to scam more people? I count at least 2.

Lol at "espringe". Nice that your site was bankrolled with stolen money, I'm sure Dean will really appreciate your sound advice.

God forbid the only honest operator out there with experience will continue legitimately running a casino. It seems like people prefer drama than facts and gambling.

Dean, I always tried to be polite and never said anything bad against any of the site owners as we all in the same boat. Thus if you don't like something, don't call it scam.

I did it because I know BAC, it was fun to chat with him. When I got back from vac, I've ben told new "big" news as Dooglus and BAC left you huge red warning. It's good to see you've sorted it out. I tried to help BAC and don't care about 1BTC I gave him as I think people shall be rewared for good things. I know he will help me someday with promotion in exchange for this if I ask him.

And yes, I used that situation as promo ( not for traffic ), but it is you who made it possible. If it's such a shame I can ask BAC to remove it.