[PRE-ANN] OPAIR | Decentralized Debit Cards | OCaml | New Blockchain Platform - page 91.

wasserman99

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Escrow Update

After a through intern debate on our team we decided to loosen our initial idea of using escrow. As many users claimed it will bring a security plus to our project, so that investors feel safe and trust that what we have raised will only be released once the ICO is finished and the initial distribution completed. For further safety of users the funds will be released in parts. This will bring more security and reliability to the project. We believe this will help a lot to win back confidence.

We have divided the ICO in two phases. The first one goes from July 26th to August 2nd and the second one from August 3rd to August 26th. As regards investments we will continue to use our platform as always. The only difference is that the second phase will have as escrow to SebastianJu, so will follow the rules set by him. Bear in mind that all investments made from August 3rd will have as final address the one provided by SebastianJu who will be the ONLY responsible for the funds until they are released.

Regards

The bitcoin escrow address is ***NOT FOR DIRECT INVESTING***:

Code:

3JCsw5ZxyqdZqXTZa42225LakRdqgJqQck

Please read the escrow rules for safety in case of refund: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15794822
Please check occassionally that the escrow addresses in OP are the same like it is in escrow thread.

wasserman99

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Quote from: MartiniBlanco on August 02, 2016, 03:44:35 PM

As an Investor and for all interested in this project i guess its fair to get some answers from you, the opair team.

Verification of legitimacy would resolve a lot of question marks and doubts!

Also! What if the project doesnt get the estimated 700BTC needed? Refund? Second ICO? Less developement?

Martini we set this before the ico starts:

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We believe it is a realistic goal to achieve and we are optimistic about this. But in case of failure to reach that goal, there are two possibilities as determined by the community at the time. 1) Carry out a second phase to raise the remaining amount or 2) launch Opair with the final amount collected but in that case some of the initial features will be cut.

MartiniBlanco

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As an Investor and for all interested in this project i guess its fair to get some answers from you, the opair team.

Verification of legitimacy would resolve a lot of question marks and doubts!

Also! What if the project doesnt get the estimated 700BTC needed? Refund? Second ICO? Less developement?

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Quote from: Reaper3 on August 02, 2016, 10:32:06 AM

Quote from: iudica on August 02, 2016, 10:26:16 AM

I can offer a compromise:

I have here some reputation during my work for several coins and pro bono work here in the forum. In the German section I am even more (well-)known. In real life I am a lawyer and I am really public as a Person (Postal address etc.) So if I would confirm that Mr. Rettig is existing and plan to work for opair, you could be pretty sure, that this is like that.

I am offering the opair ICO to make a confidental video chat for free. Mr. Rettig can proof everything. I will keep this chat confidental and just tell the audiance here, if I am convinced that there is a Mr. Rettig existing and he will contribute to opair or not.

I think, this is a very smart solution. If Mr. Rettig don't want to invest this 15min in the ICO, why anyone should do this with a single satoshi?

Sounds like a plan, add another trusted member and it will be more reliable.

they can add SebastianJu to this confidential interview if he agrees to escrow for this project. dev calls this project OPEN and FAIR. it shouldn't be confidential at all if Frank will be CEO.

iambitcoin5

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So its SCAM?

Tradingriver

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As an investor I would say, if you do not reach the needed amount you should consider 2 options

1. send the funds back

2. start building and launch and make a second ICO offer after you have a MVP ready.

cheers

p.s.

you can easily reach your goal. Check
Tai Zen - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_S5FBcMfrFbeV1ZRa3dJmA he and Leo are reputable investors and could do a good hangeout with you guys.

If you want to go fulltime you need to give it more right now.

electronicash

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Quote from: kooke on August 02, 2016, 11:46:04 AM

Quote from: iudica on August 02, 2016, 10:26:16 AM

I can offer a compromise:

I have here some reputation during my work for several coins and pro bono work here in the forum. In the German section I am even more (well-)known. In real life I am a lawyer and I am really public as a Person (Postal address etc.) So if I would confirm that Mr. Rettig is existing and plan to work for opair, you could be pretty sure, that this is like that.

I am offering the opair ICO to make a confidental video chat for free. Mr. Rettig can proof everything. I will keep this chat confidental and just tell the audiance here, if I am convinced that there is a Mr. Rettig existing and he will contribute to opair or not.

I think, this is a very smart solution. If Mr. Rettig don't want to invest this 15min in the ICO, why anyone should do this with a single satoshi?

Wasserman, i appreciate you have changed your mind and try to offer escrow from now. That will help a lot.
I do not understand what the obsession with seeing the face of Frank. Even Frank could be anyone, that does not interest me. I just want the platform to be successful. I never knew or will know who is Nakamoto and I do not care.

Do not worry about the trolls, fudders gonna FUD!

I wanna scam btcs myself but this wasserman got it the first. its more than 60btc already so excuse me for being curious about Frank's face Grin

During Nakamoto's time, we never hear of bitcoin scammers yet.

CoinManiac1

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@wasserman...

You called your so called project "OPEN AND FAIR" and here you are hiding your identity. You called this open !!

Fair. Finally, you agreed to escrow, after some investors complained for it....

Now tell me, if your project is legit since you said, "For now we are small group (three people working full-time, one external advisor and two freelancer developer", can we have the identity of all of them since this is an open and fair project.

Coming to github, you said "Given the time we have been working on this and after looking for different ways to optimize and make more efficient the project we were able to put up a team which will help us to achieve our goals in the short term.", I guess we should see come code... Fair ?

iudica

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online justice

Quote from: kooke on August 02, 2016, 11:46:04 AM

I do not understand what the obsession with seeing the face of Frank.

"Frank" is the CEO and a very important part of the whole project. So if he is not existing, it is nearly sure, that there is no real project existing. And how trustfull is a person/Project, who cheat about the CEO?

So it isn't trolling, it is just a kind offer, to clear something a bit more.

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Quote from: kooke on August 02, 2016, 11:46:04 AM

Quote from: iudica on August 02, 2016, 10:26:16 AM

I can offer a compromise:

I have here some reputation during my work for several coins and pro bono work here in the forum. In the German section I am even more (well-)known. In real life I am a lawyer and I am really public as a Person (Postal address etc.) So if I would confirm that Mr. Rettig is existing and plan to work for opair, you could be pretty sure, that this is like that.

I am offering the opair ICO to make a confidental video chat for free. Mr. Rettig can proof everything. I will keep this chat confidental and just tell the audiance here, if I am convinced that there is a Mr. Rettig existing and he will contribute to opair or not.

I think, this is a very smart solution. If Mr. Rettig don't want to invest this 15min in the ICO, why anyone should do this with a single satoshi?

Wasserman, i appreciate you have changed your mind and try to offer escrow from now. That will help a lot.
I do not understand what the obsession with seeing the face of Frank. Even Frank could be anyone, that does not interest me. I just want the platform to be successful. I never knew or will know who is Nakamoto and I do not care.

Do not worry about the trolls, fudders gonna FUD!

Dude, we dont have the obsession of seeing his face. We have the obsession of saving people from scam.

Why the hell cant he arranged for an interview? Leave video interview, cant he take out time for a radio interview...

U tell me?

kooke

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Bitcoin super-duper-mega-ultra-hyper-node

Quote from: iudica on August 02, 2016, 10:26:16 AM

I can offer a compromise:

I have here some reputation during my work for several coins and pro bono work here in the forum. In the German section I am even more (well-)known. In real life I am a lawyer and I am really public as a Person (Postal address etc.) So if I would confirm that Mr. Rettig is existing and plan to work for opair, you could be pretty sure, that this is like that.

I am offering the opair ICO to make a confidental video chat for free. Mr. Rettig can proof everything. I will keep this chat confidental and just tell the audiance here, if I am convinced that there is a Mr. Rettig existing and he will contribute to opair or not.

I think, this is a very smart solution. If Mr. Rettig don't want to invest this 15min in the ICO, why anyone should do this with a single satoshi?

Wasserman, i appreciate you have changed your mind and try to offer escrow from now. That will help a lot.
I do not understand what the obsession with seeing the face of Frank. Even Frank could be anyone, that does not interest me. I just want the platform to be successful. I never knew or will know who is Nakamoto and I do not care.

Do not worry about the trolls, fudders gonna FUD!

iudica

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online justice

Quote from: electronicash on August 02, 2016, 10:33:32 AM

Quote from: iudica on August 02, 2016, 10:26:16 AM

I can offer a compromise:

...

This could settle the situation, its enough for us to shut out mouth and maybe invest to the project as well.
I don't have much BTC, its all that i have but will invest to the project if seeing the dev is legit. wasserman is more than a retard if he still rejects this offer.

I like the idea of functional programming, would be pity, if the projects will be canceled just because of "poor marketing". So this would be my support to opair and the community

electronicash

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Quote from: iudica on August 02, 2016, 10:26:16 AM

I can offer a compromise:

I have here some reputation during my work for several coins and pro bono work here in the forum. In the German section I am even more (well-)known. In real life I am a lawyer and I am really public as a Person (Postal address etc.) So if I would confirm that Mr. Rettig is existing and plan to work for opair, you could be pretty sure, that this is like that.

I am offering the opair ICO to make a confidental video chat for free. Mr. Rettig can proof everything. I will keep this chat confidental and just tell the audiance here, if I am convinced that there is a Mr. Rettig existing and he will contribute to opair or not.

I think, this is a very smart solution. If Mr. Rettig don't want to invest this 15min in the ICO, why anyone should do this with a single satoshi?

This could settle the situation, its enough for us to shut out mouth and maybe invest to the project as well.
I don't have much BTC, its all that i have but will invest to the project if seeing the dev is legit. wasserman is more than a retard if he still rejects this offer.

Reaper3

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Quote from: iudica on August 02, 2016, 10:26:16 AM

I can offer a compromise:

I have here some reputation during my work for several coins and pro bono work here in the forum. In the German section I am even more (well-)known. In real life I am a lawyer and I am really public as a Person (Postal address etc.) So if I would confirm that Mr. Rettig is existing and plan to work for opair, you could be pretty sure, that this is like that.

I am offering the opair ICO to make a confidental video chat for free. Mr. Rettig can proof everything. I will keep this chat confidental and just tell the audiance here, if I am convinced that there is a Mr. Rettig existing and he will contribute to opair or not.

I think, this is a very smart solution. If Mr. Rettig don't want to invest this 15min in the ICO, why anyone should do this with a single satoshi?

Sounds like a plan, add another trusted member and it will be more reliable.

iudica

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online justice

I can offer a compromise:

I have here some reputation during my work for several coins and pro bono work here in the forum. In the German section I am even more (well-)known. In real life I am a lawyer and I am really public as a Person (Postal address etc.) So if I would confirm that Mr. Rettig is existing and plan to work for opair, you could be pretty sure, that this is like that.

I am offering the opair ICO to make a confidental video chat for free. Mr. Rettig can proof everything. I will keep this chat confidental and just tell the audiance here, if I am convinced that there is a Mr. Rettig existing and he will contribute to opair or not.

I think, this is a very smart solution. If Mr. Rettig don't want to invest this 15min in the ICO, why anyone should do this with a single satoshi?

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Quote from: trademark on August 02, 2016, 08:05:26 AM

Quote from: altcoinrich on August 02, 2016, 01:56:20 AM

https://www.opair.co/stats/

Who is this fucking retarded just invested 7.5 btc on 1st of August? lmao, this guy didn't hear our warning, must be a fool, sorry for your potential losses, without any real personal info. Even OP refused the radio talk, do you know what does that hint? Means OP even doesn't wanna spend a little money to hire 2 people to scam us, buy 2 people make a fake interview may cost only 100 usd, but he doesn't wanna spend this money. SHADY AND PATHETIC SCAMMER!!!!!!!!!!!!! Roll Eyes

It is difficult to make an interview video now if he just took 2 random pictures for Frank and Hao. The video has to be the same 2 people or else it wouldn't work.

of course, that's why people suspect OP is a scammer cause he refused to have an interview. But it can easily cheat on audio interview, we can't see their faces, but we can hear the voice and their knowledge to know whether they are competent or not. But it is still Not easy cause he must hire 2 people know programming and blockchain to make an audio interview to scam us.

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Quote from: wasserman99 on August 01, 2016, 04:23:30 PM

Quote from: PGPpfKkx on August 01, 2016, 04:12:43 PM

+1 on the radio show. what would be wrong with that OP?

At the moment we prefer not to do that for the same reasons previously exposed. As soon as we made an agreement with the escrow, we will make the announcement.

The reasons were that you prefer the developers to continue with their lives anonymously (while you have given their linked in profiles and where they work).

So you are saying that making a radio emission discussing about the project will compromise their personal lives Huh

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Quote from: wasserman99 on August 02, 2016, 08:38:15 AM

Quote from: trademark on August 02, 2016, 08:19:42 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: trademark on August 02, 2016, 08:08:59 AM

Quote from: wasserman99 on August 02, 2016, 02:08:57 AM

ICO Update - Day Six

Members: 224
Number of investments: 111
Amount invested: 68.83 BTC

Actual bonus (until August 3): - Users participating in the campaign the first week (but not the first two days) will receive 20% bonus.

Instead of addressing people's concerns about escrow and why Frank hasn't posted since his initial post. You keep posting about the time remaining for the bonus. The bonus doesn't mean crap if your project ends up being a scam or a failure. You can give a 100% bonus and without clearing up things, your ICO funding will still be minimal.

The scammer didnt even contact the escrow

he is just trying to scam more

That's what it seems like.

We are in communication with SebastianJu. We hope we can make an official statement today or tomorrow in the forum.

Regards

I hope our project will keep up smoothly. I need the project in peaceful without nonsense.
everyone should let project on going ahead
Thank you

wasserman99

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Quote from: trademark on August 02, 2016, 08:19:42 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: trademark on August 02, 2016, 08:08:59 AM

Quote from: wasserman99 on August 02, 2016, 02:08:57 AM

ICO Update - Day Six

Members: 224
Number of investments: 111
Amount invested: 68.83 BTC

Actual bonus (until August 3): - Users participating in the campaign the first week (but not the first two days) will receive 20% bonus.

Instead of addressing people's concerns about escrow and why Frank hasn't posted since his initial post. You keep posting about the time remaining for the bonus. The bonus doesn't mean crap if your project ends up being a scam or a failure. You can give a 100% bonus and without clearing up things, your ICO funding will still be minimal.

The scammer didnt even contact the escrow

he is just trying to scam more

That's what it seems like.

We are in communication with SebastianJu. We hope we can make an official statement today or tomorrow in the forum.

Regards

trademark

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: trademark on August 02, 2016, 08:08:59 AM

Quote from: wasserman99 on August 02, 2016, 02:08:57 AM

ICO Update - Day Six

Members: 224
Number of investments: 111
Amount invested: 68.83 BTC

Actual bonus (until August 3): - Users participating in the campaign the first week (but not the first two days) will receive 20% bonus.

Instead of addressing people's concerns about escrow and why Frank hasn't posted since his initial post. You keep posting about the time remaining for the bonus. The bonus doesn't mean crap if your project ends up being a scam or a failure. You can give a 100% bonus and without clearing up things, your ICO funding will still be minimal.

The scammer didnt even contact the escrow

he is just trying to scam more

That's what it seems like.

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