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Quote from: coinlocket$ on October 25, 2024, 02:47:24 PM

Mancehster and Aston Villa will have "easy" games tomorrow.
The big match is Arenal Liverpool and I can see a win for Arsenal here.

The other big match is Chelsea vs Newcastle and a win for Chelsea can be a big psychological push.

Arsenal is going through hard games this month.

I will have to agree with you that both London clubs will win but i am a bit worried about the Arsenal game instead. Although they have the best defense in the league since the start of last season. They have since the last three matches been allowing sloppy and have conceded unnecessary goals with Saliba out for the fixture and The red hot Sallah in high form this season again it will be hard for Gabriel to contain him without his partner helping out. I would have said that Caligfori would have been the better option for the central defense position but he twisted his knee and could potentially be out which would mean a pairing of Timber and Gabriel, two of which aren’t as calm on the ball as Saliba and could put pressure on the team.

Chelsea vs Newcastle is a game I am optimistic that Chelsea will easily win. Newcastle might have managed to take points off clubs like Manchester City this season but they are definitely having u goal scoring problems at the moment and against this red hot form Chelsea I believe they will get duck goals in this match

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The first game of matchday 9 is behind us. Leicester received a solid beating from Nottm Forest in front of their own audience. The loss could've been much worse as Nottm Forest had plenty of scoring chances.
But if anything, Leicester, despite the 65% possession, looked completely flat and out of place. That's not to mention schoolboy's mistakes like the one with the first goal when Leicester defender couldn't clear the ball and ended up passing it to Yates. But I guess Leicester's goal for this season is just to not get relegated.

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Quote from: punk.zink on October 25, 2024, 06:57:12 AM

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Kevin De Bruyne was rumored to be leaving Man City before this season started but in the end, he still stayed at Man City. Considering how prone he is to injury now, it seems that Kevin De Bruyne really has to consider the option to move to a league with less tight competition, and the Saudi Pro League could be a good choice because he can also get a big pay in there.

Likewise with Guardiola, he must also be aware that Kevin De Bruyne cannot be pushed like before, and maybe it was time for him to let Kevin De Bruyne go and I think that could be better because Guardiola could prepare a formation and strategy without De Bruyne in it.

Ultimately Pep Guardiola is getting used to being without De Bruyne and Rodri, so I don't think this will be a big problem that can't be solved. De Bruyne and Rodri are the two best midfielders in the Manchester City squad alongside Pep Guardiola, so he is fully aware of the potential when these two players are injured or absent for a long time or even leave the team. Pep Guardiola certainly has anticipation of this problem even if he admits that his two players are difficult to replace.

Pep Guardiola has managed to develop Manchester City into the strongest and dominant team in the Premier League so far and I don't think he is indifferent to his team's future. No one is forced to stay at the club as long as possible, even Pep Guardiola himself is also rumored to be leaving the team someday.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on October 25, 2024, 02:47:24 PM

Mancehster and Aston Villa will have "easy" games tomorrow.
The big match is Arenal Liverpool and I can see a win for Arsenal here.

The other big match is Chelsea vs Newcastle and a win for Chelsea can be a big psychological push.

Arsenal is going through hard games this month.

Manchester City and Aston Villa like you rightly said have games that are "easy" on paper but for the Aston Villa game, I think Bournemouth is capable of getting a result in that game.

For the Arsenal vs Liverpool game game which happens to get the biggest game in the EPL this weekend, I'm finding it difficult to predict which of them will win.

If Chelsea fails to beat Newcastle on Sunday, then I think they'll be out of contention for the league title this season

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Arteta could be hopeful about their situation but that doesn't mean we are talking about a correct way, just because he is hopeful doesn't mean we are going to end up with a win for Arsenal. We could see that, but with Califiori missing and some other missing players, we are going to see Arsenal be playing with not an ideal squad and I feel like with how Slot turned Liverpool into a winning team, I think Liverpool has a much better chance, and should be getting the win here as well.

This is of course not a simple task and we are going to see them both playing very good, shouldn't be two teams that are looking too differently from each other, they will battle very closely. But, I still give the favourites to Liverpool because all season long they looked better and I have a higher belief in them to do better as well. Liverpool is leading the league and doing great and should not be shocked. I think they have like 11 out of 12 games won since Slot took over, best start of any manager.

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Mancehster and Aston Villa will have "easy" games tomorrow.
The big match is Arenal Liverpool and I can see a win for Arsenal here.

The other big match is Chelsea vs Newcastle and a win for Chelsea can be a big psychological push.

Arsenal is going through hard games this month.

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Quote from: Cityhunter34 on October 25, 2024, 11:39:03 AM

The first game of round 9 premier league between Leicester city and Nottingham forest are going to be an interesting one to watch. Although Nottingham Forest performances now are very impressive as they were able to hold Chelsea to 1:1 draw before the international break. And also their last premier league match they were able to won Crystal palace with 1 goal. However, looking at their present performance now in the premier league I think it will going to be a though match for Leicester city tonight.

I followed Nottingham Forest during the pre-season games and they did brilliant and they're also doin the same during the Premier league competition. If they can win Liverpool who are in a red hot form, then I believe they can do the same against other top sides in the Premier League competition. Funny enough, they have just scored the first goal in this game. Nuno Espirito Santos has the experience in the league already so he knows how well to handle this game. Jamie Vardy has just equalised the goal. Great movement in midfield as they had a quick one two pass to link up Jamie Vardy. Top striker with that finish.

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Quote from: Cityhunter34 on October 25, 2024, 11:39:03 AM

The first game of round 9 premier league between Leicester city and Nottingham forest are going to be an interesting one to watch. Although Nottingham Forest performances now are very impressive as they were able to hold Chelsea to 1:1 draw before the international break. And also their last premier league match they were able to won Crystal palace with 1 goal. However, looking at their present performance now in the premier league I think it will going to be a though match for Leicester city tonight.

Seeing from some previous appearances, Nottingham should be easier to beat Leicester who currently have an unstable performance. While Nottingham has a better consistent at this time and now in the 20+ minute Nottingham managed to score 1 score.
Indeed, Leicester might be able to provide resistance because I see the ball possession at this time more likely towards Leicester. But Nottingham is superior to shocking attacks and Leicester can conceding again if they do not try to put pressure towards Nottingham.
If his appearance like this reaches the second half, I'm sure Nottingham wins.

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Quote from: yudi09 on October 22, 2024, 09:46:14 AM

When Klopp announced that he would end his tenure as Liverpool head coach, we still remember how he shouted Slot's name like a song. Klopp is indeed the best coach who has ever coached Liverpool and we believe in whoever will continue his work because the foundation that Klopp has built is very solid, making it easy for a new coach.

It is proven that Arne Slot this season is only carrying out what Klopp has formed even though Liverpool's current game has changed that is not so visible.
There are no players who look new like other teams. This gives the experience that Slot's trust in Klopp is very good or vice versa, Klopp's support for Slot always happens.
Arne Slot always looks cheerful with Liverpool players, both main players and players on the bench.

And that's very good because obviously the work that Klopp did is now when the crops cultivated by him are being harvested, now Slot only has to continue his work, the good thing about Arne Slot is that he is not a radical person who destroys everything that was done previously by Klopp because there are coaches of coaches that he doesn't like and destroy everything, for example like Ten Hag who despite losing everything says that they are developing more in the PL, well those kinds of things are what Slot did not do and that's why now Liverpool is in a great position and all thanks to Klopp, I very much agree with Klopp, he has been the best coach that has passed through Liverpool.

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Quote from: DiMarxist on October 25, 2024, 09:33:47 AM

Quote from: Issa56 on October 24, 2024, 03:29:48 PM

Quote from: len01 on October 24, 2024, 08:48:02 AM

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Arsenal's reason for losing their last match, which was against Bournemouth, was due to some of their players that are injured, including Saliba, who received a red card in the match. Those players that were absent against Bournemouth won’t still be playing against Liverpool, so it’s really going to be affecting them. That's the reason why most people just believe that Liverpool will be winning the match, and Arsenal playing defensive games won’t really favor them this season. Arsenal is having a strong defense, which is always difficult for any club to break, but they have been finding it difficult to score in most of their matches. If Arsenal can get a draw against Liverpool in the match, it’s going to be nice for them, but it’s going to be difficult for them to get a draw.

If I am not mistaken, that had been predicted by some commenters here before the match started and it was said, since Arsenal have many players injury would not do well in the match and really that has displayed in the match with Bournemouth which ended 2-0 against. And if Arsenal loss their previous match with Bournemouth then I doubt if they can draw with Liverpool. Though as it was said we can't predict like that because we don't know how they are going to Play the match.
But Liverpool is a strong team so it will be hard for them tor draw.

Football is always full of surprises and very difficult to predict, sometimes indeed the favored team can lose and the final result of the match will be beyond what we expect, but to be honest, it will be difficult to happen in the match between Arsenal vs Liverpool because realistically losing some key players will greatly affect the current Arsenal squad, When Liverpool was able to destroy Chelsea who had a pretty perfect squad depth in the previous match certainly not something difficult for them to do the same to Arsenal who are in bad shape at the moment, the loss of Saka will obviously greatly affect their attacking line and we can see how the Arsenal attacking line is deadlocked without Saka when facing Bournemouth, In addition, without Saliba, Arsenal defense will be a weakness and from the existing statistics, without Saliba Arsenal has a very small chance of winning, So it is reasonable for us to say that Arsenal is difficult to get points in the match.

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The first game of round 9 premier league between Leicester city and Nottingham forest are going to be an interesting one to watch. Although Nottingham Forest performances now are very impressive as they were able to hold Chelsea to 1:1 draw before the international break. And also their last premier league match they were able to won Crystal palace with 1 goal. However, looking at their present performance now in the premier league I think it will going to be a though match for Leicester city tonight.

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Quote from: Issa56 on October 24, 2024, 03:29:48 PM

Quote from: len01 on October 24, 2024, 08:48:02 AM

Your opinion is very reasonable because the absence of Arsenal important players will certainly have a negative impact on the team's performance.

Arsenal's reason for losing their last match, which was against Bournemouth, was due to some of their players that are injured, including Saliba, who received a red card in the match. Those players that were absent against Bournemouth won’t still be playing against Liverpool, so it’s really going to be affecting them. That's the reason why most people just believe that Liverpool will be winning the match, and Arsenal playing defensive games won’t really favor them this season. Arsenal is having a strong defense, which is always difficult for any club to break, but they have been finding it difficult to score in most of their matches. If Arsenal can get a draw against Liverpool in the match, it’s going to be nice for them, but it’s going to be difficult for them to get a draw.

If I am not mistaken, that had been predicted by some commenters here before the match started and it was said, since Arsenal have many players injury would not do well in the match and really that has displayed in the match with Bournemouth which ended 2-0 against. And if Arsenal loss their previous match with Bournemouth then I doubt if they can draw with Liverpool. Though as it was said we can't predict like that because we don't know how they are going to Play the match.
But Liverpool is a strong team so it will be hard for them tor draw.

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Quote from: punk.zink on October 25, 2024, 06:57:12 AM

Quote from: bitLeap on October 25, 2024, 06:28:28 AM

Kevin De Bruyne injury problem has always been an obstacle for him to play optimally with Man City. If he continues to experience long absences, his position could be lost. Pep Guardiola cannot continue to wait for KDB to recover faster. So in the end Man City will continue to try to utilize the availability of players who are ready in terms of performance and physical health. Kovacic, Doku and Gundogan have tried to cover KDB absence, so I am optimistic that Man City without KDB this season can continue to advance. If you look at the information on transfermarkt, KDB return from injury is still unknown, this further complicates his fate in Man City main position and the possibility of going to a Saudi Arabian club.

Kevin De Bruyne was rumored to be leaving Man City before this season started but in the end, he still stayed at Man City. Considering how prone he is to injury now, it seems that Kevin De Bruyne really has to consider the option to move to a league with less tight competition, and the Saudi Pro League could be a good choice because he can also get a big pay in there.

Likewise with Guardiola, he must also be aware that Kevin De Bruyne cannot be pushed like before, and maybe it was time for him to let Kevin De Bruyne go and I think that could be better because Guardiola could prepare a formation and strategy without De Bruyne in it.

I suggest you don't take any rumors seriously. I see the same things hundreds of times, and we will know what's going to happen to De Bruyne at the end of the season. Regarding his injury, he's back in the training sessions. Do not worry about him. Manchester City's coach, Pep Guardiola, has confirmed he won't be rushed back to play again in the main squad.

It takes a bit longer for De Bruyne to pass all of the medical tests before he will be able to play again for City. And don't forget Pep is yet to find his replacement, and it's most probably he may be extending his contract. There's enough time for City to open talks with him regarding a contract extension.

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Quote from: aylabadia05 on October 24, 2024, 04:06:35 PM

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Your opinion is very reasonable because the absence of Arsenal important players will certainly have a negative impact on the team's performance. And now Liverpool also has very high stability and is performing more consistently at this time. I don't doubt Arteta but I don't really like his confidence in this match while Liverpool really can't be underestimated. There are only 2 possible results, a draw or Liverpool wins.

Even though Liverpool are in good form, remember this is a home game for Arsenal.
Arsenal cannot be underestimated even though their current performance is not very consistent. Playing at home can increase a player's confidence to give their best and win the match, but it is always difficult to beat a team that is also in good form.

Liverpool have big ambitions to maintain their position in the standings, but they also have the potential to lose in this away match considering that Arsenal do not want to lose more points. Arsenal clearly don't want to suffer another defeat after previously losing to Bournemouth, so they will try hard to end the home game with a win.

As there is no chance to underestimate Arsenal against Liverpool, there is no chance for Arsenal to consider Liverpool as a small opponent after seeing the home field. Liverpool are in good form so if Arsenal play against Liverpool with wrong plans and if Arsenal can't defend well then Arsenal can lose against Liverpool.
In the Premier League where no team is left to talk, the competition will become even more interesting when two strong rivals like Liverpool and Arsenal take the field against each other.

Liverpool will look to secure the top position in the points table with a win against Arsenal while Arsenal will try to move to the second position in the points table by defeating Liverpool.
I am just looking forward to see the tough competition between these two teams.

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Quote from: MainIbem on October 25, 2024, 07:24:44 AM

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Quote from: Issa56 on October 24, 2024, 03:29:48 PM

Arsenal's reason for losing their last match, which was against Bournemouth, was due to some of their players that are injured, including Saliba, who received a red card in the match. Those players that were absent against Bournemouth won’t still be playing against Liverpool, so it’s really going to be affecting them. That's the reason why most people just believe that Liverpool will be winning the match, and Arsenal playing defensive games won’t really favor them this season. Arsenal is having a strong defense, which is always difficult for any club to break, but they have been finding it difficult to score in most of their matches. If Arsenal can get a draw against Liverpool in the match, it’s going to be nice for them, but it’s going to be difficult for them to get a draw.

Even with the red card they should have won that game hut Gabriel Martinelli messed things up with that chance he had to score a goal. Kiwor also came on to commit a huge blunder in that game which twated the same plans they had to salvage a point outta the game. That defensive style affects the players and most of these players are not aggressive kind of players this could be one of the core reasons why they're been carded anyhow. I'm still rooting for them but Mikel Arteta has to swith tactics to a more possession base kind of football at least, they strategy win them games. Against Liverpool will be hell tough but will they take three points at home?

The question is, can Arsenal survive against Liverpool? We're talking about the most informed team in the EPL currently so it's really going to be a very tough one for Arsenal, we'll the red card must have hindered them from steal a point of being victorious in the last match against Bournemouth but I don't they'll be able to matc this current Liverpool squad with a complete squad not to talk of not playing with key players like Saliba who was the victim of the red card and others who would be missing due to injuries, the least Arsenal could do is to try and share points with Liverpool cause I don't see them winning even with a home advantage, I don't think Arsenal would play defensive, they're tactics is more of being possessive and all out attack but Liverpool are more swift they got faster players that would ruin Arsenal's defence if they consider playing defensively due to much pressure.

In that match any side can win but Arsenal have a better record than Liverpool in their head-to-head. For the past two seasons, the best Liverpool have gotten against Arsenal was a draw else Arsenal won them. Going by that, Liverpool will be playing and aiming for a draw this season which I think is fair form them even though they need the win to maintain their number one spot in the league which they are just gapping Manchester City by a point. This weekend Manchester City will easily win struggling Southampton by huge goal margin so the only option left for Liverpool is to win. The safe bet for me is total because I expect many goals in that match.

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Quote from: MainIbem on October 25, 2024, 07:24:44 AM

The question is, can Arsenal survive against Liverpool? We're talking about the most informed team in the EPL currently so it's really going to be a very tough one for Arsenal, we'll the red card must have hindered them from steal a point of being victorious in the last match against Bournemouth but I don't they'll be able to matc this current Liverpool squad with a complete squad not to talk of not playing with key players like Saliba who was the victim of the red card and others who would be missing due to injuries, the least Arsenal could do is to try and share points with Liverpool cause I don't see them winning even with a home advantage, I don't think Arsenal would play defensive, they're tactics is more of being possessive and all out attack but Liverpool are more swift they got faster players that would ruin Arsenal's defence if they consider playing defensively due to much pressure.

It depends on Arteta in determining their game scheme because after all, Arteta's scheme and plan in the match will be able to determine whether or not Arsenal can face Liverpool in this week's match. It's hard when it's a big game but they are without some of their core players due to injuries and card penalties which will definitely create a lot of gaps for Arsenal.

Especially with Liverpool's strength now which is still extraordinary with a slot that is quite good at giving instructions from the sidelines. Liverpool's chance to get 3 points will certainly be very big in this match but that does not mean Arsenal are hopeless even though they lose in the number of players who are ready to become line ups but of course their chance is still very much there even though it is quite difficult so it depends on Arteta in determining the scheme that will be carried out in this match.

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Quote from: mammusu on October 24, 2024, 04:12:38 AM

Arsenal this season began to be hit by a storm of injuries and reminded me of what continued to be the main problem for them when Wenger was still coaching, at that time Arsenal consistency was often disrupted by the storm of injuries that continued to occur every season and make theru fail to be champhionsip in the end, the defeat from Brentford was quite painful but in fact the absence of Saliba in the match against Liverpool later was a more big loss for Arsenal, Without being able to play some of his mainstay players, of course, Arsenal's chances of winning are very small later because a team like Liverpool will take advantage of every line and weakness of the opponent to get points, I think the match will be a crucial and Arteta may have a solution to rotate his players but it doesn't seem like it will be enough to be able beat Liverpool in the match.
A few days ago Arteta had said they were ready to fly against Liverpool despite the limping team, so let's see if he can prove his words later?

I believe a good training regime and also a great amount of medical professional should be fixing that. But they probably do not have that and this is causing the trouble. Do not consider these teams to be some rich wealthy teams that have everything, we saw how Manchester United literally had nothing, they spend tens of millions on players and do not make a million dollar investment into their training or products.

This is why Arsenal might be having a trouble with recovery systems, they are training hard, then playing games, but they just go home and relax to recover, instead of having some high-end recovery system built in the team. All in all, they are having this problem too often, it can't be just bad luck, there is something more about it.

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Quote from: Issa56 on October 24, 2024, 03:29:48 PM

Arsenal's reason for losing their last match, which was against Bournemouth, was due to some of their players that are injured, including Saliba, who received a red card in the match. Those players that were absent against Bournemouth won’t still be playing against Liverpool, so it’s really going to be affecting them. That's the reason why most people just believe that Liverpool will be winning the match, and Arsenal playing defensive games won’t really favor them this season.

Arsenal is having a strong defense, which is always difficult for any club to break, but they have been finding it difficult to score in most of their matches. If Arsenal can get a draw against Liverpool in the match, it’s going to be nice for them, but it’s going to be difficult for them to get a draw.

Honestly Arsenal facing a lot challenges in their last match against Bournemouth which was due to their better squad that are in injures if not i don’t think Arsenal might lose that match, but indeed it has happened because the remaining players has totally weak due to the present and and later absent in 30 minutes right from first half after receiving a hurt red card which is their main player Saliba.

Yeah their next match is against Liverpool and those players will still be absent, that’s a lot of people are saying that Arsenal can find the match so difficult to win, but in my view Arsenal will make everything possible and make some better arrangements with their selves to avoid Liverpool winning their upcoming match rather they will the match to a draw. Because since they’ve aware where their problem come from is due to their absence of some of their players they will not allowed what happened in there last repeat anymore.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on October 25, 2024, 05:45:07 AM

Quote from: Issa56 on October 24, 2024, 03:29:48 PM

Arsenal's reason for losing their last match, which was against Bournemouth, was due to some of their players that are injured, including Saliba, who received a red card in the match. Those players that were absent against Bournemouth won’t still be playing against Liverpool, so it’s really going to be affecting them. That's the reason why most people just believe that Liverpool will be winning the match, and Arsenal playing defensive games won’t really favor them this season. Arsenal is having a strong defense, which is always difficult for any club to break, but they have been finding it difficult to score in most of their matches. If Arsenal can get a draw against Liverpool in the match, it’s going to be nice for them, but it’s going to be difficult for them to get a draw.

Even with the red card they should have won that game hut Gabriel Martinelli messed things up with that chance he had to score a goal. Kiwor also came on to commit a huge blunder in that game which twated the same plans they had to salvage a point outta the game. That defensive style affects the players and most of these players are not aggressive kind of players this could be one of the core reasons why they're been carded anyhow. I'm still rooting for them but Mikel Arteta has to swith tactics to a more possession base kind of football at least, they strategy win them games. Against Liverpool will be hell tough but will they take three points at home?

The question is, can Arsenal survive against Liverpool? We're talking about the most informed team in the EPL currently so it's really going to be a very tough one for Arsenal, we'll the red card must have hindered them from steal a point of being victorious in the last match against Bournemouth but I don't they'll be able to matc this current Liverpool squad with a complete squad not to talk of not playing with key players like Saliba who was the victim of the red card and others who would be missing due to injuries, the least Arsenal could do is to try and share points with Liverpool cause I don't see them winning even with a home advantage, I don't think Arsenal would play defensive, they're tactics is more of being possessive and all out attack but Liverpool are more swift they got faster players that would ruin Arsenal's defence if they consider playing defensively due to much pressure.

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Quote from: bitLeap on October 25, 2024, 06:28:28 AM

Kevin De Bruyne injury problem has always been an obstacle for him to play optimally with Man City. If he continues to experience long absences, his position could be lost. Pep Guardiola cannot continue to wait for KDB to recover faster. So in the end Man City will continue to try to utilize the availability of players who are ready in terms of performance and physical health. Kovacic, Doku and Gundogan have tried to cover KDB absence, so I am optimistic that Man City without KDB this season can continue to advance. If you look at the information on transfermarkt, KDB return from injury is still unknown, this further complicates his fate in Man City main position and the possibility of going to a Saudi Arabian club.

Kevin De Bruyne was rumored to be leaving Man City before this season started but in the end, he still stayed at Man City. Considering how prone he is to injury now, it seems that Kevin De Bruyne really has to consider the option to move to a league with less tight competition, and the Saudi Pro League could be a good choice because he can also get a big pay in there.

Likewise with Guardiola, he must also be aware that Kevin De Bruyne cannot be pushed like before, and maybe it was time for him to let Kevin De Bruyne go and I think that could be better because Guardiola could prepare a formation and strategy without De Bruyne in it.

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