Topic: ⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ - page 109. (Read 59683 times)

Liverpool is truly convincing in the first three games of the Premier League as for Manchester City we know how strong they are, yet it is one of those rare cases where Liverpool starts in full power and is yet to concede a goal while crushing Manchester United at Old Trafford which is quite an achievement for them. Liverpool have suffered already in the previous seasons in the first few games of the Premier League and in the end those seasons did not end well as we know but right now they are having a great form and as I said it is not a coincidence because you simply cannot beat that easily 0-3 in their home a team like Manchester United which leads to me to my next question unanswered from months now, when is Ten Haag going to be sacked?

Arsenal in the last two seasons have shown their best performance in the competition for the title, while Liverpool we can see how in the last few seasons they have been in poor condition and have often experienced inconsistencies in their play so far, so it is natural that there are those who doubt Liverpool ability in competition for the title this season, but I think what @hanadawa said is true at this time, Liverpool Klopp era has ended with unsatisfactory achievements at the end of his term last season, but this does not guarantee that Arne Slot will not be win the season trophy, altthough it's too early to say but I think Liverpool performance and play this season have improved drastically.

I know it's a little too early to judge but from what I've seen, he seems like a man that knows what he's doing. I didn't take his first two games in the league that seriously but after the United game, he has my attention. He totally outsmarted Ten Hag. He pressed better, knows how to hold on to the ball, knows how to win the ball back and they created a lot of chances. That game should have easily ended 5-0 in favour of Liverpool if they took their chances.
Then what I find very impressive about his team is how they were able to keep United quiet. They made sure Manchester United doesn't create a lot of chances. The lack of quality squad depth might be their only problem this season.


As I said, Liverpool does not have the squad to sustain them for a full season. There is the champions league, Premier league, Caraboa cup and FA cup. Then let's remember that there are more and tougher games in the Champions League mow.
It's going to be difficult to compete with Man City for the league in those conditions. I still see Man City as the winners of the EPL because they even look better this season and Rodri hasn't even returned.

Before the start of the English Premier League campaign, I had predicted that Arsenal possesses more chances of winning the English Premier League title this season than Liverpool and that was because I thought it'll take time for the new manager of Liverpool to adapt system of football in the league but to my big surprise, Arne Slot in his first three have been able to grab all three points as well as not conceding a single goal. So right now, I consider Liverpool one of the top strongest contenders for the English Premier League title this season.
Arsenal under Mikel Arteta in the last three seasons have been exceptional but their failure to remain consistent from beginning of the season till the end have denied them the opportunity of winning the league under Arteta. I expected them to make significant additions during the summer transfer window especially in the top 9 striker's position so they can have better options in that very position but it seems the club manager is okay with what he has already. Between Arsenal and Liverpool, it'll be difficult to choose who I think stands a better chance of winning the league but if I must choose, I'll go for Arne Slot's Liverpool.

Liverpool is a traditional club of English Premier League and we all know about the achievements of Liverpool before but their performance has not been good in the last few seasons but under the hands of the new manager they can definitely do better this season.

Erne Slott replaces former Liverpool manager Klopp, a manager we discussed when he took over that his team would be difficult to manage at first. But he has proved us wrong and he is prioritizing the former manager's strategy as well as managing the team in his own way and he is trying to get the maximum performance out of the players and he has been successful so far. Now let's see if this manager can maintain this consistency of performance for Liverpool. If Liverpool can finish in a good position at the end of the season, the management fans will surely appreciate it.

I don't think the same mate to tell the truth. I believe Chelsea would still make use of a striker like Osimhen. I'm pretty sure they tried hard to convince Napoli president for a more sensible price than 130 million euros too.

Because Jackson is still not trustworthy just because of scoring 2 times. I wouldn't trust this man while continuing to waste so many goal chances at the same time.    He needs to improve those statistics much more to be more convincing. Besides Chelsea should have focused on only necessary transfers in the latest window. But what did they do instead? They just wanted to sign as many players as possible which has become a meme topic on the internet.


_{Source: https://www.transfermarkt.com/fc-chelsea/transfers/verein/631/saison_id/2024}

Just because Liverpool couldn't win the title with Klopp doesn't mean they can't win the title this season with Arne Slot. I don't think that's how we define the strength of a club. I remember when Di Matteo took over Chelsea and they won the UCL for the first time, CMIIW. Even though Chelsea had never won the UCL with their former coach before.
Many say that Liverpool is still the same as the previous season. But I think I've seen some variations in the attacks and tactics implemented by Arne Slot. And now they are getting positive results with 3 wins. I think Liverpool deserves to be one of the favorites to win. Although I also wouldn't put them at number one because I see City really dominating the EPL this season.

Manchester United team usually because of some mistakes in the past, their team is completely depleted and they lose with any team. Should Ten Hag change and recruit a new player in the team, the more Manchester United team can do these things, the better the team's fortunes. will change Because they have performed well enough on the field but their game design and counter-attacks are not good, for a long time they have very little ability to reach the ball into the net of the opposing team's goal post. Although a few balls entered the box, Manchester United lacked players to kick. That's why I want to say good design and can finish attacks that's why it's very important to change two people if Manchester United can perform as well as before.

We have a North London derby coming up next Sunday. Tottenham is playing against Arsenal.
Tottenham proved to be a dangerous team last season, but they have trouble stabilising their form right now. After an impressive 4-0 win over Everton, they lost to Newcastle despite being a more dominating team.
Of course bookies are favouring Arsenal with odds at x1.93 (for Tottenham: x3.85).
Arsenal's main rivals for the title race, Man City and Liverpool will both have easy home games the day before, so there will be extra pressure on the Gunners not to fall too much behind them in the table.

Honestly, I counted Liverpool out of the title race contenders for this season. The reason is not far fetched. This is because when Liverpool had their former coach who has been with the club for a long time and have studied the bond and the relationship of the club, they were unable to win the title but they contended. I mean this few seasons ago. If the former coach with a stable squad could not win the English Premier League, I did not see a new coach doing it.

However, there is a big difference between contending for the English Premier League title and winning it. Liverpool might contend for it but I am not sure they will win it. I rather have my expectation in Arsenal.

Chelsea not doing great is not really a shock, they keep on getting players and at this point they are making a huge mistake. They have 40+ players on their list, that makes no sense and if they get rid of half of them, the money they can raise from that would be enough to purchase Mbappe and Haaland together, it makes no sense to spend this much money on mostly players that are not good.

Let's see how they will do, but when you consider the amount of money they spent, and then you look at their roster on a game day, and the eleven players they have look basically similar to whoever they are facing. When in reality they should be a lot better if they spend this much, and for the past two years or so they have been just getting whoever they want, that's a bad decision.

Right Brighton football team  body language was good because they prepared well for that match and they did good goals and got good position. Manchester United  team performance is very poor because they lose last two matches and they could be eliminate in this tournament. We did not expect that kind of performance by that team because they always did well in every tournament but in this tournament,they could not give good start to team and after that goalkeeper became very lazy man and he could not stop 2 goals and his team lose the match . They had good possession percentage and they also had good passes in this match but they could not execute well in this match.

Chelsea and Manchester United are clubs who have been utterly disappointing. I think they have amazing squads, they also brought more squad depth and first team starter quality players. Now both of them had a mediocre to bad start. Manchester United lost two games, against Brighton and Liverpool, and got a very late scrappy win against Fulham. That is not a good start, at any level.

The men in Blues have also had a very unsettling start. They lost 0-2 to City in the season opener, got a great 6-2 win at Chelsea, and played Crystal Palace at home, just to draw 1-1. Now I have to credit Palace, under Glasner they have been amazing, and I think there is more to come. But yes, The London club is definitely the better team squad and individual ability-wise, so no excuse for them to draw a game.

I think they have many differences still, but the mediocrity is common. I hope both of them come back from their adversities, so the league becomes enjoyable for both sets of fans.

It is definitely very early to actually compare both of them against each other. The start has not been good from both of them. But I hope they will be able to turn things around and start performing better.

Let me talk about Manchester United. Honestly it is hard to believe that they are going to turn things around and start performing better, especially when they are showing performances like they did in the last match against Liverpool. They got thrashed. they did not have any chance against Liverpool. I also want to say that the new Liverpool coach seems to be doing things right. Liverpool has started the season very well and got nine points from the first three matches. Anyway, Manchester United does not have a good direction of what they actually want to do. I also don’t think the coach has any idea about what he is doing either.

Chelsea is just not being able to perform well enough because of too many changes in the managerial position. Let’s see what happens in this season for Chelsea.

Duke Khan

As a Chelsea fan, you should be proud of everything that Chelsea has achieved so far, but you should also realize that the current Chelsea is not the Chelsea that once won the Champions League, Chelsea golden era has long ended and that's why we can say If currently Todd Boehly is trying to build a new era squad with a different philosophy like the Abramovich era, if we pay attention to the Abramovich era, Chelsea is easy to develop because they continue to regenerate the team without throwing away senior players so we can see that Chelsea is quite tough and has a good mentality, but currently the Chelsea squad contains young players and without support from the mentality and experience of the senior players, so we can see that even though they have a capable squad but they are still very inconsistent in every match, and  this is quite doubtful for me if they can be worthy candidates to be in the top 4 zone in the end season.

Arne Slot has made a decent start to his Liverpool career. If he keeps the team in the title race until the end of the season, the fans and board will both be satisfied for sure. It would be impressive without making many transfers. 

I can't wait to watch their games against Manchester City and Arsenal both. They are technically shown as the biggest title contenders at the moment. Bookmakers are thinking like that and I don't think it is very different when it comes to people in general too.

I hope Liverpool prove people wrong and stay in the race.    Liverpool or Arsenal, someone should stop Manchester City immediately. I'm really bored of seeing them as the champions every year...

Whenever I hear the name of the Chelsea team, I am proud to predict them.  And his performance is so impressive that even if one does not call him good, he is also forced to call him good.  And as far as their performance is concerned, it is very good and top notch.  I am not saying that they don't lose a single match but their performance is second to none and they are winning most of the matches.  That's why you and others praise them. You are right that Chelsea lost, but if you look at Manchester, they are also a good team.  For this reason, it is difficult to say that Chelsea were weak.  Chelsea are now failing to work hard and try.  It could also be because Chelsea will forget their performance after making a name for themselves.  Yes, I feel the same now that this season Chelsea will not win and will lose matches because they are not using their strengths as they used to.

Chelsea and Manchester United have both made less than convincing starts to the season, but the performance of both cannot be compared in just the three matches that have been played. Ten Hag has spent two seasons with Manchester United and is now entering his third year at Old Trafford. Manchester United are still struggling to get back on track, two defeats from three games played are a setback for Manchester United, even though they have just brought in several quality players in the transfer market, but Ten Hag is still having difficulty getting his team on the right track. It seems like Manchester United management must take steps to find a replacement for Ten Hag if they do not want to continue to fall to a lower position in the standings.

Chelsea are starting a new project under the management of Enzo Maresca, the players need to adapt to the tactics used by the coach. Currently Enzo Maresca has not found the best strategy to improve Chelsea performance, they still need time to return to winning ways. Maresca must improve many things to stabilize his team, he must re-analyze his team's mistakes that made it so easy for the opposing team to penetrate his defense area. Chelsea's new era has just begun with Maresca, he must at least prove his worth for one season.

Even before that interview, I have always said it a zillion times, Erik Ten Hag is not a magician. He can not school players how to kick the ball or which leg to control and pass the ball, they're professionals and should be able to do that but players fail to do so and they're to be blamed or substituted. You can only call out Erik Ten Hag for making the wrong call or substituting the wrong off the pitch. When you talk about patience, you need to also know that Manchester United fans lacks patience, they're serial winners who have experienced a lot of success but they need to know that this kind of changes takes time. Those two trophies won in the first two seasons are compensations.
The defense did well, if you point at Andrea Onana's positioning I'll agree but don't talk bad about the defenders. It was mainly Casemiro who caused two big blunders leading to the first two goals scored. They have improvements from how they played last season I must say, they have just been unlucky with converting these chances created. It's good to see Manchester United management backing Erik Ten Hag, he needs to start winning to silenced the noise anyways.

Up to 3 matches, they are not much different from last season where they each got 1 loss, 1 win and 1 draw.
Their level of difficulty and compactness has not changed much for the better.


Nkunku, Mudryk, Felix, Johson supported by Palmer and Enzo, they are lacking in terms of scoring goals and creating goal opportunities.
If they still haven't found the best format with the level of cooperation as a team, I think competing in the top 4 until the middle of the season is a bit difficult.