While everyone is talking about Liverpool vs Manchester City game (which is very normal) I would like to talk about the Manchester United Everton one as well. I know Everton is a bad team, but United had one of their easiest wins of the entire season, they won 4-0 without breaking a sweat, they didn't even play their best game ever, but they won so easily and looked so effortless as well. That is of course a bit thanks to Amorim, but also a bit about Everton not playing that good at all, I know they are a bad team, but they played even worse.
Hopefully, United could keep this going, considering how they are one of the biggest names in sport world ever, seeing United do badly makes me sad, I would rather see them play great.
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The outright odds has already hinted you, which clubs can compete against Liverpool. These clubs are Chelsea and Arsenal, but the gap is too big. Liverpool has 9 points gap to the its closest competitors, but it can be widening in the upcoming weeks.
Liverpool is gonna have easy fixtures in the upcoming weeks. The will against Newcastle, Everton and Fulham. It sounds impossible for them to drop some points against those weak clubs. That's why i think the gap may be going bigger.
The points gap can widen all they want, but they could still misfire at one point, so these odds mean nothing in a global sense. They are favourites now, but could easily lose this race. The good thing about this league is that there is constant competition and nothing is predetermined like in some other leagues. Now it's more interesting to watch Manchester City and their defeats coming in a row, it's really interesting to see what's going on with the team and how long it will take them to fix it
I still remember how former Liverpool players doubted Arne Slot in continuing the job left by Klopp. Jamie Carragher is right to doubt him because Klopp came to Anfield after a number of achievements with Dortmund and since taking over Liverpool, he has been able to restore Liverpool to glory on the European stage. Rafael Benitez who is on the list of Liverpool managers from time to time also came to Anfield with several trophies with Valencia.
Arne Slot's turn, this Dutch coach only came with a domestic title with Feyenoord so with the current reality, the gambling that was allegedly made by Liverpool management is not appropriate to be said because Liverpool is a very consistent team. For this I praise Liverpool. In the race to lose later until the end of the season and fail to win the trophy, it is not possible, but if you consider that this is his first season at Anfield, I think it is not a bad thing.
Arne Slot will not stop here, even though beating Man City does not mean Liverpool will relax. They have everything in both the Premier League and the Champions League both at the top of the table. Is there any club this season that can stop Arne Slot men? for the time being obviously not. But Liverpool must be vigilant considering Mo Salah, Trend A Arnold and Virgil van Dijk have not yet received a contract extension so next season there is no guarantee they can be as consistent as now.
The outright odds has already hinted you, which clubs can compete against Liverpool. These clubs are Chelsea and Arsenal, but the gap is too big. Liverpool has 9 points gap to the its closest competitors, but it can be widening in the upcoming weeks.
Liverpool is gonna have easy fixtures in the upcoming weeks. The will against Newcastle, Everton and Fulham. It sounds impossible for them to drop some points against those weak clubs. That's why i think the gap may be going bigger.
The points gap can widen all they want, but they could still misfire at one point, so these odds mean nothing in a global sense. They are favourites now, but could easily lose this race. The good thing about this league is that there is constant competition and nothing is predetermined like in some other leagues. Now it's more interesting to watch Manchester City and their defeats coming in a row, it's really interesting to see what's going on with the team and how long it will take them to fix it
Manchester City being dropped to fifth place is as unusual as it gets. I do not remember any time they were this low ever for years now, it's definitely a new thing and I am not sure if it will be easy for them to adjust to this at all. It's going to be a very troubled thing for them and they need to gain their confidence back somehow. Pep is furious about the situation as we all know, and that's of course not an easy thing for a manager, dude just signed a new contract and he hasn't won a single game for over a month, that's not really normal to be fair.
I believe we are going to end up seeing some changes one way or another, but for that to mean something I feel like we need to focus on something bigger, we need to make a bit more money from betting on them too, it's bad for us. I am trying martingale on them, considering they will eventually win, but I am not really making a profit so far and betting even more every game, I am sure eventually they will win, but I do not want to run out of money before that lol.
I believe we are going to end up seeing some changes one way or another, but for that to mean something I feel like we need to focus on something bigger, we need to make a bit more money from betting on them too, it's bad for us. I am trying martingale on them, considering they will eventually win, but I am not really making a profit so far and betting even more every game, I am sure eventually they will win, but I do not want to run out of money before that lol.
This is really unusual for especially Guardiola's Manchester City.
As far as I can remember, they have never had such a lose series in his management. Moreover they can't win for like 6-7 games now. With such a great squad it must be feeling awful for him also to have such time period. He still can't find the root of the issue. It is getting bigger and bigger.Honestly 11 points is a big gap no matter we aren't even in the middle of the season yet. Arne Slot is moving on determinedly. The gap is likely to get wider in this situation.
Is there an example of a big comeback by Guardiola's club in the past? Yeah, there is. But this time, I don't know...
The outright odds has already hinted you, which clubs can compete against Liverpool. These clubs are Chelsea and Arsenal, but the gap is too big. Liverpool has 9 points gap to the its closest competitors, but it can be widening in the upcoming weeks.
Liverpool is gonna have easy fixtures in the upcoming weeks. The will against Newcastle, Everton and Fulham. It sounds impossible for them to drop some points against those weak clubs. That's why i think the gap may be going bigger.
Quite some interesting odds here, but I won't fall for it by making any predictions because the premier league has been known for a very unpredictable ending. Liverpool are 11 points clear from Manchester city, and it feels like Manchester city are already out of the title race, but if we actually consider some factors here, we might want to make some changes in what we've concluded.
Now, let me start with Liverpool. They've had a better fixtures compared to any of the other big sides( in terms of home advantage against bigger sides, and away advantage against smaller sides). Which is clearly unlike Arsenal that has had quite the opposite. Things will begin to look difficult when big sides like Liverpool starts meeting with another bigger side in an away fixture.
And as for Manchester city, we've seen them do crazy things in the past. We've seen them snatch trophies at the very late hours of the competition. I have this feeling that this season will be more tougher, and would even cause tears to those with too many expectations. Just to add, Chelsea isn't out of the race either.
Arne Slot will not stop here, even though beating Man City does not mean Liverpool will relax. They have everything in both the Premier League and the Champions League both at the top of the table. Is there any club this season that can stop Arne Slot men? for the time being obviously not. But Liverpool must be vigilant considering Mo Salah, Trend A Arnold and Virgil van Dijk have not yet received a contract extension so next season there is no guarantee they can be as consistent as now.
That's what he has to do because the slightest carelessness for the EPL is clear that it will have a more severe impact than expected so for now as much as possible Slot must continue to be able to maintain his performance so that it continues to last until the end with consistent conditions.Currently they are in high confidence and it is still very possible that this could continue to last until halfway through the season if they see how superior they are when they are on the field.
It's just that there are some problems that must be resolved now, especially for player contract issues. There is still no clarity on van Dijk, Trent and Salah. Even if you look at the last few rumors there is a complicated situation between Salah and Liverpool so it could be that when this situation is allowed to continue to drag on, there will be other clubs who take advantage of this which makes them even bigger problems later. So apart from Liverpool who must continue to maintain their consistency, of course for now there must be more clarity for some core players whose contracts are running out.
Manchester City being dropped to fifth place is as unusual as it gets. I do not remember any time they were this low ever for years now, it's definitely a new thing and I am not sure if it will be easy for them to adjust to this at all. It's going to be a very troubled thing for them and they need to gain their confidence back somehow. Pep is furious about the situation as we all know, and that's of course not an easy thing for a manager, dude just signed a new contract and he hasn't won a single game for over a month, that's not really normal to be fair.
I believe we are going to end up seeing some changes one way or another, but for that to mean something I feel like we need to focus on something bigger, we need to make a bit more money from betting on them too, it's bad for us. I am trying martingale on them, considering they will eventually win, but I am not really making a profit so far and betting even more every game, I am sure eventually they will win, but I do not want to run out of money before that lol.
I believe we are going to end up seeing some changes one way or another, but for that to mean something I feel like we need to focus on something bigger, we need to make a bit more money from betting on them too, it's bad for us. I am trying martingale on them, considering they will eventually win, but I am not really making a profit so far and betting even more every game, I am sure eventually they will win, but I do not want to run out of money before that lol.
After Amorim's 2 silly experiments with Malacia and Antony against Bodo/Glimt it seems like he realizes that priorities and winning are paramount and he's got the momentum this time around with players that I think are much more stable than his previous lineups.
I think Amorim assumed it wasn't so difficult to play against Bodo/Glimt. So he put Malacia and Antony on the starting lineup. Luckily Man United won the match, people can feel quite satisfied with Amorim's tactic. 
By the way, Amorim at least already have some permanent players on the defense line. he prefers using De Light-Martinez-Mazraoui.
Speed he lost even for the goal created from Bodo/Glimt it happened because he lost the speed battle, passing is also not too good for a player who was predicted as a big player before so in this case it is quite strange when he was retained in the last few seasons at Manchester United.
Their momentum is starting to build now although doubts about Amorim are still very big due to the departure of Rudd van Nistelrooy but it seems he still wants to show that Manchester United's decision to sign him from Sporting was not a mistake.
I think the doubt on Amorim are starting to diminish. The more wins got by Man United, the more people will trust on Amorim. I think it is about the time that Amorim will show his quality to anyone. Sure, it is not a mistake to hire him if he can improve the performance of Man United. He also should have the intention to build Man United squad for a long run.
Arne Slot will not stop here, even though beating Man City does not mean Liverpool will relax. They have everything in both the Premier League and the Champions League both at the top of the table. Is there any club this season that can stop Arne Slot men? for the time being obviously not. But Liverpool must be vigilant considering Mo Salah, Trend A Arnold and Virgil van Dijk have not yet received a contract extension so next season there is no guarantee they can be as consistent as now.
The outright odds has already hinted you, which clubs can compete against Liverpool. These clubs are Chelsea and Arsenal, but the gap is too big. Liverpool has 9 points gap to the its closest competitors, but it can be widening in the upcoming weeks.
Liverpool is gonna have easy fixtures in the upcoming weeks. The will against Newcastle, Everton and Fulham. It sounds impossible for them to drop some points against those weak clubs. That's why i think the gap may be going bigger.
Exactly, this point gap may increase higher in the coming games because Liverpool will be facing a very weak team and this will really help them to widen the gap more with their closest rival happen to be Arsenal for now. The point gaps can only be maintained if Arsenal can also keep up to their winnings and continue their consistency in the league now. Manchester City have really fell down the paddle of teams for the top spot for now, let’s see what happens and becomes of them in the coming weeks which could change the face of the league further. I am very happy to see Chelsea on this position, it’s been a long time to see them standing on this position after a series of poor season’s by them for some years. I can’t wait to see what they can do this season also, and maybe get the opportunity to finish in the top four and register their presence once more in the champions league after a long time being ousted of the competition.
The outright odds has already hinted you, which clubs can compete against Liverpool. These clubs are Chelsea and Arsenal, but the gap is too big. Liverpool has 9 points gap to the its closest competitors, but it can be widening in the upcoming weeks.
Liverpool is gonna have easy fixtures in the upcoming weeks. The will against Newcastle, Everton and Fulham. It sounds impossible for them to drop some points against those weak clubs. That's why i think the gap may be going bigger.
Liverpool who has the smallest odds to win the league rightly deserve the odds they were given because of how convincing they've been performing this season. I think Arne Slot destined to win the EPL in his first season in England.
Arne Slot will not stop here, even though beating Man City does not mean Liverpool will relax. They have everything in both the Premier League and the Champions League both at the top of the table. Is there any club this season that can stop Arne Slot men? for the time being obviously not. But Liverpool must be vigilant considering Mo Salah, Trend A Arnold and Virgil van Dijk have not yet received a contract extension so next season there is no guarantee they can be as consistent as now.
Liverpool players making everyone proud because they're the basic instrument of Arne Slot. They're winning matches and ranked first on the EPL table. It's possible for the new manager to win the EPL title in his first season handling Liverpool. This is complex tasks to manage at Anfield because stepping into the picture after Jurgen Klopp exits the managerial role, everyone thought it will be complex coming from Arne Slot but looking at his development in the club, he's all good. Do you know Arne Slot have defeated Pep Guardiola, Erik Ten Hag, Carlo Ancelotti and Xabi Alonso this season and he didn't concede a goal against them. For me, he simply passed the test for replacing Jurgen Klopp. 
Arne Slot will not stop here, even though beating Man City does not mean Liverpool will relax. They have everything in both the Premier League and the Champions League both at the top of the table. Is there any club this season that can stop Arne Slot men? for the time being obviously not. But Liverpool must be vigilant considering Mo Salah, Trend A Arnold and Virgil van Dijk have not yet received a contract extension so next season there is no guarantee they can be as consistent as now.
The outright odds has already hinted you, which clubs can compete against Liverpool. These clubs are Chelsea and Arsenal, but the gap is too big. Liverpool has 9 points gap to the its closest competitors, but it can be widening in the upcoming weeks.
Liverpool is gonna have easy fixtures in the upcoming weeks. The will against Newcastle, Everton and Fulham. It sounds impossible for them to drop some points against those weak clubs. That's why i think the gap may be going bigger.
It looks like Liverpool can achieve their goal and become champions, it was a very important match from this point of view, and for City this defeat was a very difficult blow, and after a series of failures they fell to 5th place. The closest pursuers of Liverpool are Arsenal and Chelsea, but they are also 9 points behind Liverpool. I do not want to rush and say that Liverpool will be champions, because any team can have a decline...
This game has always been the title deciding game for some years now bar the last two years where Arsenal created another extra competition, for Liverpool fans this game and the one against Arch rivals Manchester United and Everton are slots initiation games, beating this three and winning the title will definitely place him in the heart of the fans. So yesterday was memorable to the Manchester City fans as they were able to crush both the European champions and the league champions in a week, currently they are in utopia and that’s why the chants were coming out.
But is this the end for the league I will definitely say no, Liverpool have been in this position before 9 points clear and they didn’t win it rather they lost it to Manchester city and finished third. Right now I don’t expect city to pull that stunt up again but you can just rule them out. But Liverpool has both Arsenal and Chelsea at their tails and it will be disastrous to underrate them. Arsenal have challenge for the title for the last two seasons and they can do that again with their top opposition’s Manchester city looking fazed out already
Liverpool is the team at the forefront of fighting for the title so far, while Arsenal and Chelsea both have the opportunity to at least disrupt Liverpool's plans. The points gap is currently too wide, but considering this is the Premier League there may still be changes before the season ends.
There were some good matches yesterday and the most important one was definitely the match between Liverpool and Manchester City.Liverpool were of course the favorites against the out of form City and managed to win.Liverpool under the management of Arne Slot is going step by step towards the championship.Liverpool took the lead with Gakpo in the first half and in the second half, Salah's goal from a penalty decided the score of the match. In the second half, Salah's goal from the penalty decided the score of the match.City is in a heavy decline due to the lack of wins in recent weeks and Pep needs to recover his team as soon as possible. After 4 consecutive defeats in the league, they are very detached from the championship race and the point difference with Liverpool has increased to 11.
It looks like Liverpool can achieve their goal and become champions, it was a very important match from this point of view, and for City this defeat was a very difficult blow, and after a series of failures they fell to 5th place.
Let’s see if they will be able to achieve their aim this season. Manchester City, which everyone is thinking will be contesting with them, is performing poorly currently, and before Pep Guardiola will be able to fix things in the club, it might be too late already. Arsenal which is currently in second position, is not consistent, we all know Arsenal for that. They really can’t contest with Liverpool, and Chelsea which is in 3rd position currently, is not really fighting for the premier league title this season. Enzo Maresca is just trying to fix things in the club first, and his target this season is just to qualify for the champions league, so I still have confidence in Liverpool winning the league title this season, but let’s just keep on observing.Manchester City losing to Liverpool in their match yesterday was what most people expected. Manchester City's performance has been kind of poor recently, they are losing and playing draws against even weak teams, so everyone expected Liverpool, who are currently in form, to win the match, and they did, so I wasn’t really surprised with the result.
Arne Slot will not stop here, even though beating Man City does not mean Liverpool will relax. They have everything in both the Premier League and the Champions League both at the top of the table. Is there any club this season that can stop Arne Slot men? for the time being obviously not. But Liverpool must be vigilant considering Mo Salah, Trend A Arnold and Virgil van Dijk have not yet received a contract extension so next season there is no guarantee they can be as consistent as now.
Beating Man City is a great step step for them at least for them to leave the top sport in the table they must loose 3 matches. For them to lose a match this season they will play the Barcelona that beat Bayern Munich and real Madrid with their form
The way things are going after the match against Man City Salah said this is probably his last match against City in Liverpool shirt
It's a big joke Pep rotated Lewis to play as a right winger, while both Gundongan and Silva that really good in attacking instead of defending, Pep put them as a defensive midfielder. Pep is frustrated and he don't know how to solve it, this will be the worst season for them.
If Liverpool become a champion in this season, it will be a sweat last dance for Salah in Liverpool.
It looks like Liverpool can achieve their goal and become champions, it was a very important match from this point of view, and for City this defeat was a very difficult blow, and after a series of failures they fell to 5th place. The closest pursuers of Liverpool are Arsenal and Chelsea, but they are also 9 points behind Liverpool. I do not want to rush and say that Liverpool will be champions, because any team can have a decline...
Arne Slot will not stop here, even though beating Man City does not mean Liverpool will relax. They have everything in both the Premier League and the Champions League both at the top of the table. Is there any club this season that can stop Arne Slot men? for the time being obviously not. But Liverpool must be vigilant considering Mo Salah, Trend A Arnold and Virgil van Dijk have not yet received a contract extension so next season there is no guarantee they can be as consistent as now.
After Amorim's 2 silly experiments with Malacia and Antony against Bodo/Glimt it seems like he realizes that priorities and winning are paramount and he's got the momentum this time around with players that I think are much more stable than his previous lineups.
I think Amorim assumed it wasn't so difficult to play against Bodo/Glimt. So he put Malacia and Antony on the starting lineup. Luckily Man United won the match, people can feel quite satisfied with Amorim's tactic. By the way, Amorim at least already have some permanent players on the defense line. he prefers using De Light-Martinez-Mazraoui.
The game ended without a hitch for them with 2 braces from the feet of Rashford and Zirkzee that saw Manchester United end the week's festivities on a high at Old Trafford.
Yep. Rashford and Zirkzee played well today, each of them scored 2 goals. Amorim has tried to always rotate Man United attackers. I think there duo Rashford and Zirkzee who showed a more productive result. I think they deserve to play again as starters in the next matches.Their momentum is starting to build now although doubts about Amorim are still very big due to the departure of Rudd van Nistelrooy but it seems he still wants to show that Manchester United's decision to sign him from Sporting was not a mistake.
I think the doubt on Amorim are starting to diminish. The more wins got by Man United, the more people will trust on Amorim. I think it is about the time that Amorim will show his quality to anyone. Sure, it is not a mistake to hire him if he can improve the performance of Man United. He also should have the intention to build Man United squad for a long run.We hope they maintain this same mentality and form.
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