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Liverpool must accept the fact that they have lost a manager of great quality and will certainly understand the void. The manager who was in charge for a long time and after being in charge, he deliberately stepped away from the responsibility of Liverpool, but the new manager who took charge of Liverpool cannot be said to be applying a brand new strategy. In many cases we see the current manager managing the team with the same strategy that the former manager of Liverpool used to manage the players. The former technique has some advantages in managing teams. Most of Liverpool's players are old, Klopp has been training them for a long time, so if the players play with that strategy, it will be easier for them to understand. But the most challenging thing for the current manager this season is to get Liverpool's current team to at least a good position in the Premier League.
To be fair, they are not in bad situation at the moment, I understand that it may look like that but for the time being but Arne Slot doesn't feel like he is a bad manager at all, he is doing fine and I bet that he will continue to do fine for a while longer. Losing Klopp is something that may look like it's something terrible but at the end of the day it's going to be a bad situation if they didn't get anyone great, instead they got a great manager and thanks to that they are doing fine.

Arne Slot has been doing great so far and feels like they are going to see this season go great as well, which is why I believe that we can see much better results. The reality is that we can't really assume that Arne is bad just because they had Klopp before, who knows maybe Arne Slot will get much more trophies with them than Klopp, who knows? Right now he had only a few games with Liverpool and so far all of them has been great, this is why I think they can be very happy.

After 3 matches in charge of Liverpool, Arne Slot has had a nean-perfect start. Slot still uses the framework left by Jurgen Klopp but has made tactical adjustments. This shows that Jurgen Klopp's departure does not affect Liverpool's championship race. Arne Slot looks like a smart appointment by Liverpool's board. The 45-year-old is doing a good job replacing Jurgen Klopp.
One problem that limited Liverpool's ability to compete for the title last season was a porous defense. Making sure Alisson doesn't have to make many saves is part of Slot's new plan. I believe this is a way to help Liverpool become champions this season. But the problems that Arne Slot needs to solve in the coming time are that Liverpool's main pillars are also reaching their twilight years, and they will leave Liverpool at any time. Especially Mohamed Salah. Arne Slot should start working now to find new players to replace these pillars.
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Liverpool must accept the fact that they have lost a manager of great quality and will certainly understand the void. The manager who was in charge for a long time and after being in charge, he deliberately stepped away from the responsibility of Liverpool, but the new manager who took charge of Liverpool cannot be said to be applying a brand new strategy. In many cases we see the current manager managing the team with the same strategy that the former manager of Liverpool used to manage the players. The former technique has some advantages in managing teams. Most of Liverpool's players are old, Klopp has been training them for a long time, so if the players play with that strategy, it will be easier for them to understand. But the most challenging thing for the current manager this season is to get Liverpool's current team to at least a good position in the Premier League.
To be fair, they are not in bad situation at the moment, I understand that it may look like that but for the time being but Arne Slot doesn't feel like he is a bad manager at all, he is doing fine and I bet that he will continue to do fine for a while longer. Losing Klopp is something that may look like it's something terrible but at the end of the day it's going to be a bad situation if they didn't get anyone great, instead they got a great manager and thanks to that they are doing fine.

Arne Slot has been doing great so far and feels like they are going to see this season go great as well, which is why I believe that we can see much better results. The reality is that we can't really assume that Arne is bad just because they had Klopp before, who knows maybe Arne Slot will get much more trophies with them than Klopp, who knows? Right now he had only a few games with Liverpool and so far all of them has been great, this is why I think they can be very happy.
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They didn't lose the match because they stepped up with their defense. If they had continued with the way they were playing then they will probably would have lost. However, before i was comparing the performance of Manchester United to be the same with Chelsea but now i can boldly say that Chelsea has improved and now have better performance to Manchester United this season. Even if the winning the league is not assured at least coming out top 5 should be what they should be concerned about. If care is not taken Manchester United will not be going to the Champions league next season. With the way they are playing now there is no hope at all.

Isn't it too early to start comparing the performance of Chelsea and Manchester united. Both clubs aren't playing very well because they haven't won all their three games that they have played. Chelsea has a new management therefore the playing style they used to play before can't be the same as they have new coaching staff and team. We have to give them some time in the season to see if their new playing style is going to get them victory. My hopes aren't that up for them as they didn't get a top striker in the just ended transfer window as they needed one and relying on just Jackson can't guarantee them top 4 finish this season.

Yes indeed, it is too early to compare them and draw conclusions on their current performance, because of course there are still many opportunities for them to get good results over time. After all, last season Chelsea also was only struggling in the middle of the standings, but approaching the end of the season Chelsea managed to get good results. Indeed, Chelsea has a new management, but that does not mean Chelsea will continue to slump because of course, Enzo Maresca certainly has good ways and efforts to make Chelsea rise over time.

Also, until now they have just played three matches even though Manchester United have indeed gotten worse results  compared to Chelsea. But at this moment I am sure, it is still too early to draw conclusions because I sure, they still have a chance to rise because they are basically a top team that has the ability to rise at least not to fall too deep.
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What are your thoughts on Chelsea this season? Do we think they have a reasonable chance of finishing in the top 4?
It's hard to judge them after only 3 games, but I think the lack of consistency will make it hard for them to succeed. So far they have one lost game to Man City, one impressive away win over Wolves (6-2) and a home draw against Crystal Palace, which was a bit disappointing, considering how dominating Chelsea was and how many good scoring chances they were able to create.
I still think that replacing Pochettino with Maresca was a risky and unnecessary move. Maresca only ever managed 2 clubs before and his managerial career started only in 2021. But maybe I'm wrong and maybe new, inexperienced managers are more hungry and willing to put in extra work for the club. I guess the time will tell.

They are still lacking one very precious thing: consistency.  Sad  This is like a big obstacle that they just can't get over it. It doesn't matter how good they play unless they get wins more often. It is that simple yeah.

Palmer and Madueke are the best players in the squad right now. Jackson is also starting to give good signals recently. I hope these positive things would lead to some good winning streak in the near future.

When it comes to the manager change, I said it a thousand times... Pochettino was doing great in the last times of the previous season. They won many games and climbed many positions. But still he ended up with getting sacked. So wrong decision...  Sad
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What are your thoughts on Chelsea this season? Do we think they have a reasonable chance of finishing in the top 4?
It's hard to judge them after only 3 games, but I think the lack of consistency will make it hard for them to succeed. So far they have one lost game to Man City, one impressive away win over Wolves (6-2) and a home draw against Crystal Palace, which was a bit disappointing, considering how dominating Chelsea was and how many good scoring chances they were able to create.
I still think that replacing Pochettino with Maresca was a risky and unnecessary move. Maresca only ever managed 2 clubs before and his managerial career started only in 2021. But maybe I'm wrong and maybe new, inexperienced managers are more hungry and willing to put in extra work for the club. I guess the time will tell.
It can be said that Chelsea's performance in the 3 matches that have been played is indeed unstable and can even be said to be bad, because the Chelsea squad currently has a lot of player choices and that could make Maresca confused in determining who will be fielded in the matches that will be played later, in the sense that there is indeed no game pattern that has been determined for now, but for the chances it can be said to be still high as long as Chelsea can fix it from now on so it is still too early to judge Chelsea's performance under Maresca's guidance, it could be that in the future it will provide a surprise or even make things worse, let's just wait and see.
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What are your thoughts on Chelsea this season?
Chelsea's is still the same as last season. They still struggle with their midfield and force to play their players not in their actual positions.

Do we think they have a reasonable chance of finishing in the top 4?
I think they have a good chance to finish in the top 4, if they fix their attackers and midfielders. but their midfielders should be the priority.

It's hard to judge them after only 3 games, but I think the lack of consistency will make it hard for them to succeed.
To be fair, it needs at least a half of a season to judge Chelsea's performance. It's not fair to judge them based on the last three games. But, we can see they still struggle with the same problems as last season. They keep putting their players to play not in their actual positions. Just like when Palmer was the one dropping deep. He should have just stayed further up the pitch. And this is even worse than being inconsistent.

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What are your thoughts on Chelsea this season? Do we think they have a reasonable chance of finishing in the top 4?
It's hard to judge them after only 3 games, but I think the lack of consistency will make it hard for them to succeed. So far they have one lost game to Man City, one impressive away win over Wolves (6-2) and a home draw against Crystal Palace, which was a bit disappointing, considering how dominating Chelsea was and how many good scoring chances they were able to create.
I still think that replacing Pochettino with Maresca was a risky and unnecessary move. Maresca only ever managed 2 clubs before and his managerial career started only in 2021. But maybe I'm wrong and maybe new, inexperienced managers are more hungry and willing to put in extra work for the club. I guess the time will tell.
Chelsea is one of the teams that has very good squad depth at the moment, but they are still not able to show consistent performance in their  game, the defeat to Manchester City at the start of the match was a big blow for Chelsea but they showed an extraordinary comeback in match against Wolves, after we havebig hope because that big win, then Chelsea again got negative results in the conference league and even yesterday we saw how weak the mentality of the Chelsea players was after they failed to win over Crystal Palace, looking at the depth of the squad they currently have, it is possible Chelsea has a strong squad this season, but with the condition that Maresca must be able to improve the mentality of the Chelsea players, however  if their continue to be inconsistent in the match then it is very likely that this season Chelsea will be thrown out of the top 4 zone in end season.
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Manchester United owner (Jim Ratcliffe) expression after his team was humiliated by Liverpool at Old Trafford.

Ten Hag has not been able to improve Manchester United performance even though the club owner has spent a lot of money to bring in new players in the transfer market. Players like De Ligt, Joshua Zikzee, Manuel Ugarte and Leni Yoro have been brought to Old Trafford, but Manchester United performance is still like a mediocre team that is very easy to beat. Manchester United players often make mistakes that benefit Liverpool, Manchester United overall performance is very poor and Ten Hag must be responsible for the minor results achieved by his team.

Jim Ratcliffe could not hide his disappointment after the team he led was humiliated in front of their fans, even though they had added strength by bringing in new faces, the team's performance was still far from what was expected. It seems that Ten Hag position is on the brink, trust in him is starting to fade, and now fans are even demanding that he be fired immediately after suffering two defeats from three matches at the start of this season.
So what do you think, will Ten Hag be retained until the end of the season or will he be replaced midway?
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What are your thoughts on Chelsea this season? Do we think they have a reasonable chance of finishing in the top 4?
It's hard to judge them after only 3 games, but I think the lack of consistency will make it hard for them to succeed. So far they have one lost game to Man City, one impressive away win over Wolves (6-2) and a home draw against Crystal Palace, which was a bit disappointing, considering how dominating Chelsea was and how many good scoring chances they were able to create.
I still think that replacing Pochettino with Maresca was a risky and unnecessary move. Maresca only ever managed 2 clubs before and his managerial career started only in 2021. But maybe I'm wrong and maybe new, inexperienced managers are more hungry and willing to put in extra work for the club. I guess the time will tell.
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Despite owning Klopp's squad legacy, but Slot knew better about United rather than ten hag. If you're watching Slot's post interview, then you would see how he was breaking down Ten Hag's pressing. he even exposed United's tactic to the public.
When you see an experienced manager who knows how to study the tactical structure of his opponents before playing against so he can device a means of coming top at the end of the day, you'll definitely not struggle to notice about his professionalism. Arne Slot came to Liverpool and started with by studying the tactical approaches of his predecessor Jurgen Klopp which was why he was able to use the squad at his disposal effectively without even adding a new player in their mix. Like you rightly said, he exposed the weakness of Erik ten Hag's tactics which was why deviced the best tactical approach to get all three points from the game at Old Trafford yesterday and that actually worked perfectly for him.
Liverpool must accept the fact that they have lost a manager of great quality and will certainly understand the void. The manager who was in charge for a long time and after being in charge, he deliberately stepped away from the responsibility of Liverpool, but the new manager who took charge of Liverpool cannot be said to be applying a brand new strategy. In many cases we see the current manager managing the team with the same strategy that the former manager of Liverpool used to manage the players. The former technique has some advantages in managing teams. Most of Liverpool's players are old, Klopp has been training them for a long time, so if the players play with that strategy, it will be easier for them to understand. But the most challenging thing for the current manager this season is to get Liverpool's current team to at least a good position in the Premier League.
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Despite owning Klopp's squad legacy, but Slot knew better about United rather than ten hag. If you're watching Slot's post interview, then you would see how he was breaking down Ten Hag's pressing. he even exposed United's tactic to the public.
When you see an experienced manager who knows how to study the tactical structure of his opponents before playing against so he can device a means of coming top at the end of the day, you'll definitely not struggle to notice about his professionalism. Arne Slot came to Liverpool and started with by studying the tactical approaches of his predecessor Jurgen Klopp which was why he was able to use the squad at his disposal effectively without even adding a new player in their mix. Like you rightly said, he exposed the weakness of Erik ten Hag's tactics which was why deviced the best tactical approach to get all three points from the game at Old Trafford yesterday and that actually worked perfectly for him.
Knowing the strategy of an opposite opponent is common and understandable, starting a working process is actually hard and I must give Arne Slot an accolades because not every new coach can start the season newly with an amazing performance, when Arteta started also he got some similar issue even few old coach find it difficult coping this season.
Talking about Ten hag strategy is kinda funny since few people can tell their weakness and strategy although that’s just normal, last season when Arteta and pep Guardiola played their last match it got complicated mainly because they knew themselves, also Unai Emery knows how to play against Arsenal so it’s normal. Ten hag and his team just need to sit up if they want a chance or else their fans should not expect something serious this season.

However, the coach of the club changes and the coach must be given a long time, because a new coach cannot suddenly show good performance. Although he has to deal with the toughest situations at the moment, he has to spend a little more time being friendly with each player and teaching them important tricks.  In this case, the players have tried hard on behalf of the Chelsea team but they are performing very well in this new season.
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They didn't lose the match because they stepped up with their defense. If they had continued with the way they were playing then they will probably would have lost. However, before i was comparing the performance of Manchester United to be the same with Chelsea but now i can boldly say that Chelsea has improved and now have better performance to Manchester United this season. Even if the winning the league is not assured at least coming out top 5 should be what they should be concerned about. If care is not taken Manchester United will not be going to the Champions league next season. With the way they are playing now there is no hope at all.

Isn't it too early to start comparing the performance of Chelsea and Manchester united. Both clubs aren't playing very well because they haven't won all their three games that they have played. Chelsea has a new management therefore the playing style they used to play before can't be the same as they have new coaching staff and team. We have to give them some time in the season to see if their new playing style is going to get them victory. My hopes aren't that up for them as they didn't get a top striker in the just ended transfer window as they needed one and relying on just Jackson can't guarantee them top 4 finish this season.
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Despite owning Klopp's squad legacy, but Slot knew better about United rather than ten hag. If you're watching Slot's post interview, then you would see how he was breaking down Ten Hag's pressing. he even exposed United's tactic to the public.
When you see an experienced manager who knows how to study the tactical structure of his opponents before playing against so he can device a means of coming top at the end of the day, you'll definitely not struggle to notice about his professionalism. Arne Slot came to Liverpool and started with by studying the tactical approaches of his predecessor Jurgen Klopp which was why he was able to use the squad at his disposal effectively without even adding a new player in their mix. Like you rightly said, he exposed the weakness of Erik ten Hag's tactics which was why deviced the best tactical approach to get all three points from the game at Old Trafford yesterday and that actually worked perfectly for him.
Knowing the strategy of an opposite opponent is common and understandable, starting a working process is actually hard and I must give Arne Slot an accolades because not every new coach can start the season newly with an amazing performance, when Arteta started also he got some similar issue even few old coach find it difficult coping this season.
Talking about Ten hag strategy is kinda funny since few people can tell their weakness and strategy although that’s just normal, last season when Arteta and pep Guardiola played their last match it got complicated mainly because they knew themselves, also Unai Emery knows how to play against Arsenal so it’s normal. Ten hag and his team just need to sit up if they want a chance or else their fans should not expect something serious this season.
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Erik ten Hag says he is no Harry Potter, he can't do magic. However he should accept the fact that the fans will criticized him even harder in time as long as there is no improvement in results. You are even lucky that Manchester United isn't one of the impatient clubs.  Smiley

There great transfers for defense. This should show its good impact sooner or later. Ugarte has also arrived so I hope he takes Casemiro's place in no time. Because Casemiro is still a disappointment...

Other than defense, another disappointing thing was their scoring. Only 2 goals in 3 games? This isn't a good performance by the attackers. Bruno Fernandes didn't even play in his main position in the first two games.  Sad
I don't know why Manchester United coach would always not want to take responsibility of failure in the club. He hardly admits his mistakes and I think it is not an attribute of a great coach. I have seen coaches like Pochettino take responsibility of their mistakes and promise to do better. I have also seen Jurgen Klopp do so, but Erik will never admit his poor performance. Instead, he will face you with his FA Cup win, which I think is not the best approach.

He should rightly be informed that Manchester United has invented by buying players, he should stop giving excuses, no one is indispensable.
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Perfect start to the season for Liverpool, maybe it’s not all doom and gloom after Klopp. I’m happily surprised at how good Slot has us playing but obviously it’s very early in the season, much more testing periods ahead.

Now an international break, which by the way is so ridiculous after only 3 games back. When the break is over we have back to back games at Anfield against Nottingham Forest and Bournemouth, a good chance to keep the good early season form going.


Honestly, this wasn't what I expected anyhow. While I knew that Arne Slot was a great manager, even a great manager can't always have a great start, usually it takes time for players and manager to find that right balance and chemistry and when that relationship gets better the team gets better, which I did expected them to do because it looked like they would be better eventually.

However, they started very well too, and this does scare me just a bit, not a lot but just a bit. I fear that they may actually do worse later on, like they started great, but where can this go, they can't just keep being awesome, very few teams ever does that, there could be some problems along the way, if not then the title is so easy to win, if it does, then solving it quickly will be the key.

Though I have to give credits to Arne Slot good start in the EPL especially with the clean sheets following the wins even against Manchester United but the main reason I still don't consider Liverpool highly this season is from the fact that earlier last season they where the best team, is either they get a win or worst savage a point no matter who they were playing up against no matter the odds even with bad referee decisions but during their injuries woes which was a similar situation other top teams suffered their performance reduced and even after all the stats came back fit, things didn't rather became more disappointing that they drop from league title favorite to 3rd place.
Since it's under a new management I believe things are kind of different, Slot  is likely diligent coming from what we see from the start already, defeating Manchester United by that number of goals is enough for us to consider them among the top competitors for the Premier league title this season, we just hope this is not another show play to start too well and end badly. We may also see one among the top competitors declared the winner but leading with a point away from having it tied with the second runner.

Right now the three top competitors are same like what we had last season, between Arsenal and Liverpool I can't tell who has the better ability to stay above the other because they have been impressive since the season began.
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I think Haaland would better this season from the fact that his performance this season now is better than how he did last season where he couldn't even do well against some mid teams. It was obvious how getting a goal were difficult for him last season when KDB was injured but there have been improvements this time.

About him not doing well during big matches, this has been the main reason he is still less regarded as he ought in the world and I believe if he is really wants to go above his comfort zone and become more than he is now then I think this season he will do much better disregarding most efforts of the opponent tactics in neutralising him.


last season headlands performance was based on dependency on other players but now he looks freer compared to last since his personality is more of scoring than assisting because you hardly see Haadland assisting, that is the kind of football, and KDB is usually a rounder for us so I don't see the reason why he wants to leave, if he leaves we might get a replacement, but we are going to miss is performance, KDB has one of the best performance when it comes to assisting, a lot of players are relying upon. his injury has affected Haaland performance, the young is learning to live without KDB. and one thing footballers do is to improve themselves.  to me, I don't see anything wrong with Haaland's performance, but people are not even supporting Manchester City, and I don't think Haaland is less regarded. now that he notices that eyes are on him I think that is one of the reasons he needs to improve his self if his about goals, I don't think I have worried because I know haaland will enough of it.
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Erik ten Hag says he is no Harry Potter, he can't do magic. However he should accept the fact that the fans will criticized him even harder in time as long as there is no improvement in results. You are even lucky that Manchester United isn't one of the impatient clubs.  Smiley

There great transfers for defense. This should show its good impact sooner or later. Ugarte has also arrived so I hope he takes Casemiro's place in no time. Because Casemiro is still a disappointment...

Other than defense, another disappointing thing was their scoring. Only 2 goals in 3 games? This isn't a good performance by the attackers. Bruno Fernandes didn't even play in his main position in the first two games.  Sad
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Perfect start to the season for Liverpool, maybe it’s not all doom and gloom after Klopp. I’m happily surprised at how good Slot has us playing but obviously it’s very early in the season, much more testing periods ahead.

Now an international break, which by the way is so ridiculous after only 3 games back. When the break is over we have back to back games at Anfield against Nottingham Forest and Bournemouth, a good chance to keep the good early season form going.


Honestly, this wasn't what I expected anyhow. While I knew that Arne Slot was a great manager, even a great manager can't always have a great start, usually it takes time for players and manager to find that right balance and chemistry and when that relationship gets better the team gets better, which I did expected them to do because it looked like they would be better eventually.

However, they started very well too, and this does scare me just a bit, not a lot but just a bit. I fear that they may actually do worse later on, like they started great, but where can this go, they can't just keep being awesome, very few teams ever does that, there could be some problems along the way, if not then the title is so easy to win, if it does, then solving it quickly will be the key.

Though I have to give credits to Arne Slot good start in the EPL especially with the clean sheets following the wins even against Manchester United but the main reason I still don't consider Liverpool highly this season is from the fact that earlier last season they where the best team, is either they get a win or worst savage a point no matter who they were playing up against no matter the odds even with bad referee decisions but during their injuries woes which was a similar situation other top teams suffered their performance reduced and even after all the stats came back fit, things didn't rather became more disappointing that they drop from league title favorite to 3rd place.
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Haaland is of course a great player there is no doubt about that, but he is not playing well during big games, that's the bad thing about him that he needs to work on. When he is playing against other premier league teams that are not great, he scores bunch of goals, it's easy to score hattrick against these teams, but when it comes to UCL for example, or even FA cup finals to be fair, he is nowhere to be found.

That's the issue he had for two years in a row now, even when they won the treble, he wasn't scoring on the final games, even semi finals. This is why he needs to keep scoring and keep that momentum and then start scoring on those very crucial important games as well, that would make things a lot better for him.

Without scoring on those games, he will just be Kane and nothing more, he will never become a superstar, he will become a player that everyone likes and has a lot of scoring titles, but he will not be considered big like historical football figures.
The most prolific striker at the start of this season is Haaland because he managed to record 2 hat-tricks in two matches and also scored goals routinely in 3 matches. Haaland will of course be favored to return to being the top scorer this season because in 3 matches he has managed to score 7 goals. In addition, Manchester City this season is also very strong, even Alvarez's departure did not affect their performance at all, even though Alvarez is only a reserve striker but he also has quite good quality.

Now if you look at the many matches that exist because this season has only been running for 3 matches, there is a great opportunity for Haaland to surpass the goal tally last season. I think if he is in good condition in every match, there is a big chance he can score 40 goals this season.
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Jackson has scored goals 2 matches in a row in the Premier League. I can't believe my eyes!  Shocked  It isn't a thing I'm used to seeing as Jackson is generally struggling to finish big chances with goals.

Chelsea are very dominant against Crystal Palace but it is still only 1-1. It would be a shame if they lose points. I really liked them against Wolves. I want to see the same spirit.

They didn't lose the match because they stepped up with their defense. If they had continued with the way they were playing then they will probably would have lost. However, before i was comparing the performance of Manchester United to be the same with Chelsea but now i can boldly say that Chelsea has improved and now have better performance to Manchester United this season. Even if the winning the league is not assured at least coming out top 5 should be what they should be concerned about. If care is not taken Manchester United will not be going to the Champions league next season. With the way they are playing now there is no hope at all.
what's the main thing that's lacking in Manchester United that Chelsea have tried to improve on is the bonding among the players and how they've been able to complement each other's weaknesses and tries to cover up at any slightest mistakes by one of them. Both teams are still struggling but most likely, Chelsea has an higher chance of going higher than they were on the table during last season compaired to Manchester United that's still yet to get thier ground on somany key things.  Just a touch on Chelsea defense and an introduction of a quality and matured attacker to the Chelsea team will almost make them look like the man city. Comparing them to other teams, they've hard a lot of complete passes and have been one of the most dominant team that always have position of the ball in most of thier games. They might not be physically and mentally matured like players In Liverpool or man city but so far, they've shown class and are far better than what people expect of a combination of inexperienced players like them.
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