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Quote from: TelolettOm on October 13, 2024, 06:49:48 PM

It should be, names like: Moises Caicedo (midfielder), Noni Madueke (winger), Sancho (winger), and Nicolas Jackson (forward), and of course, other players. However, they are key players who are very influential for Chelsea, who must be optimized again.

Can they tell Noni Madueke that the Chelsea football is not meant to be personal? Who else was disappointed with how he played against Nothingham Forest? He had his chances, but passing should have been the best option for me, I know he wants to be on the score sheet but being selfish wouldn't help him get these goals truthfully. I still think he will go on with these set of players again against Liverpool. Alexander Arnold is not great defensive wise, Jadon Sancho will definitely make good use of his wing to operate. But Nicolas Jackson will be caged can't say same for Cole. So, a goal in that game for him definitely.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on October 11, 2024, 12:29:48 PM

Quote from: Pandu Geddon on October 11, 2024, 10:57:15 AM

Indeed, changing United to be better will take time. and the first step that club management must take is the right coach. remember, even if they get a new coach, United will not achieve big changes in a short time.
Many also criticize some of the players who are currently Ten Hag's choices. if the coach is replaced, of course, there will be changes in some players. this will be a long process. but if you want to see good progress, United must do it immediately.

I agree with you and yes I think this is something that people should know. When a team is performing badly then there is a problem that needs to be fixed and a solution found. What happened with United is they let Ten Hag be the manager for a long time but Manchester United did not get better. The fans want to see Manchester United like the Ferguson era even though it is impossible. But I think changing the manager can be a long term solution. United need to find the right manager to rebuild their squad.

Manchester United have allowed their current manager to be in charge of the club for a long time only to see their club in a better position. They may have thought that if a new manager was appointed to the club every season, the performance of the players would be erratic, so he tried to get the players to play according to any one manager's strategy. But this strategy would have worked for them if they could have hired a competent manager as their club manager. Ten Hag has been in charge of Manchester United for a long time but has not been able to improve the condition of this team, but since taking charge of Manchester United, the condition of Manchester United has gradually deteriorated. So far this manager has been in charge of Manchester United and so far the team has only performed poorly.

So in my opinion Manchester United should take action against this manager now and sack him and hand over the club to a competent one.

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Quote from: RockBell on October 13, 2024, 03:06:33 PM

This season actually looks different for the blues and they want to be different this season and they are actually making thay difference because from the beginning Chelsea have spent a lot of money just to give the club a color and they are the club that have changed a coach the most for now they are doing very wel, and Enzo actually have a brilliant record so am not surprised that Chelsea is actually doing well and even if he knows what it means to win a trophy does not mean that he will actually be able to win it.

He did well as a manager and Chelsea will do very well this season, is past with Leicester City was not a bad one so Chelsea will rise again since it is exactly what they want, and their might be a chance that they might qualify for champions league because Enzo is taking his job seriously because he already knows the kind of people is working for.

Yes, we hope Chelsea's strategy to buy potential players is for long-term investment, purposes to build the team to be solid as the fans wish, so not just instant like what they last did before. Enzo so far it's been impressive and become the key current success Chelsea right now, but he shouldn't be proud yet because he should build the team to be compact, not just rising one or two player on the team. I think with condition like this, their target to qualify for Champions League on next session is realistic and and maybe better, it's not impossible if chelsea will be the main competitor Manchester City, Arsenal, and Liverpool to be the premier league champion.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on October 13, 2024, 12:19:28 PM

Quote from: TelolettOm on October 12, 2024, 06:40:30 PM

Cole Palmer's role?
exactly, no doubt.
best player of Chelsea right now.

Cole Palmer has been key to Chelsea “success” in the Premier League. It is not surprising that he won Player of the Month Award. Cole Palmer has been able to adapt to Maresca style which is very different from what he’s used to at Manchester City and Chelsea under Pochettino. Chelsea got really lucky with his signing, this is without a doubt the best signing Chelsea’s new ownership has made.

Yes, that's right, Cole Palmer's contribution to Chelsea is unquestionable. Now it's just a matter of how Marezca optimizes the other players to be as good as that, because it's not just Cole Palmer who should be good, but at least most of them.

It should be, names like: Moises Caicedo (midfielder), Noni Madueke (winger), Sancho (winger), and Nicolas Jackson (forward), and of course, other players. However, they are key players who are very influential for Chelsea, who must be optimized again.

Source: Chelsea serious squad depth

Anyway, Chelsea completed the signing of three young players, spending around £85m on them with an average age of 22. Will their £85m signings really strengthen the club later?

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on October 13, 2024, 04:57:11 PM

Arsenal and Manchester City have matches scheduled earlier than Liverpool vs Chelsea. Arsenal played against a relatively weaker team, while Manchester City was the same. Both teams are favorites to win, so both wins will increase the pressure on Liverpool.

If Manchester City and Arsenal both win their respective matches, then Liverpool will definitely be desperate to reclaim their place at the top. As a result, Chelsea must realize that their opponents do not want to lose or draw at home, so it is necessary for Chelsea to play well and be strong in defense.

Yes, the two teams are favorites to win their games, and I am sure they will both win, and just as you said, it will be a pressure build on Liverpool team and Arne Slot because they have to win if they really want to maintain the top spot in the Premier league table
This pressure will be what will determine the composure of Arne Slot to see if he can manage pressure and win over big teams because defeating Chelsea is not small task for Liverpool because Chelsea is now well organize and will wants to make sure they have consistency.
We might have some funny results when the leagues resume because of injuries as some players will not comeback fully feet due to workload.

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on October 13, 2024, 04:57:11 PM

Arsenal and Manchester City have matches scheduled earlier than Liverpool vs Chelsea. Arsenal played against a relatively weaker team, while Manchester City was the same. Both teams are favorites to win, so both wins will increase the pressure on Liverpool.

If Manchester City and Arsenal both win their respective matches, then Liverpool will definitely be desperate to reclaim their place at the top. As a result, Chelsea must realize that their opponents do not want to lose or draw at home, so it is necessary for Chelsea to play well and be strong in defense.

Arsenal against Bournemouth and Manchester City against Wolves, Bournemouth is a team that is sometimes good sometimes bad, they are able to keep up with the game and sometimes not, this will be a big question mark even though their ability is indeed below Arsenal, but to hold the match to a draw Bournemouth is able to do that.

Man City and Wolves, Guardiola must get this victory so that Liverpool does not become calm at the top of the table, but with Wolves' current condition, it will be very beneficial for Man City, I just don't think that Wolves can be thrown to the bottom of the table which I think it doesn't make sense they can decline that far, they don't have a single win and only 1 point from the draw. LOL

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on October 12, 2024, 06:24:46 PM

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I really don't see any reason to keep Ten Hag on the team, I don't find any logical reasons, however, those who defend Ten Hag, I don't know why they do it, I understand his family and some of his friends, but the rest who are MU fans should do their part to ensure that MU wins and has good results. At this stage in life, a team should not be the victim of a coach who is in 13th place and says that they are the best team that has improved the most in the PL , that is something that doesn't make sense, I still don't understand what they are defending him for.

It’s not just Erik Ten Hag tactics that is the problem. His willingness to say things like this is a problem. The problem of Manchester United starts from the Glazers down to Ten Hag and to the players. Mediocrity has been accepted as the United standard, they are so far away from what the spirit of the team used to be. So if Manchester United are able to draw against a mid table team, that would be qualified as a good game for Manchester United.

I can bet that Ten hag is the main problem of Manchester United, the Glazers not selling Manchester United last season is the only thing I blame them for but the coach is responsible for the performance of the team and the has been given money to bring in good players but he brought in the players of his choice but that has he achieved with the players nothing all he does is to sit and lose matches then come on the media to talk about his contract with the United management which has assured him they he is not going to be sacked soon despite his poor performance.

The arrival of Ten hag has seen the team go down they are not even see as an opposition to any team in the league because they are not sure of themselves anymore, I believe if Ten hag is out of the team a new manager will definitely be better than him.

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Arsenal and Manchester City have matches scheduled earlier than Liverpool vs Chelsea. Arsenal played against a relatively weaker team, while Manchester City was the same. Both teams are favorites to win, so both wins will increase the pressure on Liverpool.

If Manchester City and Arsenal both win their respective matches, then Liverpool will definitely be desperate to reclaim their place at the top. As a result, Chelsea must realize that their opponents do not want to lose or draw at home, so it is necessary for Chelsea to play well and be strong in defense.

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Quote from: Odusko on October 12, 2024, 03:52:14 PM

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It feels really great to see a club different from Manchester City at the top of the standings. Roll Eyes

Liverpool lead it but Manchester City are still right behind by only 1 point.

I would never say it would be easy to compete The Citizens for the PL championship. Obviously they will still be a big challenge. But especially in Rodri's absence they can have more difficulties in that.

Manchester City's pattern is being noticed in the premier league, they are facing some current difficulties due to injury of some of their key players Rodri, and Kevin De Bruyne. These players are almost the moving factor of the team, they are the main players that has been leading the team to glory, and without them, the team is not as good as they used to be which we have started seen since they both get injured Manchester City has started to drop points even though they are yet to lose any match.

I think Manchester City's condition like this always happens every season but in the end their dominance remains unstoppable at the end of the season which makes them always become champions again and again in the EPL.

We know the absence of KDB last season also made their performance the same as now where they are a little troubled to give 3 points especially for the problem of supplying the ball, this time the situation is repeated especially with 2 players who are quite vital in midfield (KDB and Rodri) who are injured making their situation not running as it should. But even so Pep can always provide a new innovation that makes Manchester City stronger in the race for first place and competition for trophies.

Now with the rise of Liverpool, of course this provides a new spirit because not only Arsenal are fighting for the trophy with Manchester City, but it cannot be denied that Manchester City is still a club whose probability is still very high to win until now.

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Quote from: Ruttoshi on October 13, 2024, 02:33:29 PM

Since Todd bought Chelsea, Cole Palmer is the best signing that they have made and he is the only player that is worth the amount of money they used to sign him, and he has been very active in contributing to the victory of Chelsea. Without Palmer, Chelsea will be nowhere. His performance has bee extraordinary last month with many goals and assist giving him the best chance to be the player of the month.

Agree. So far, Cole Palmer is the best player that Chelsea ever signed in the era of Todd Boehly. Chelsea was lucky to buy this player from Man City with €47m only. Now, Palmer's market value is about €90m and it keeps rising. Palmer's role in Chelsea is also very crucial. He is the key player in attacking line and with few functions. He delivers accurate passes and he also has great accuracy in shooting. Just look at the stats of this player, he is above other Chelsea players!! This good performance isn't only for this season. He showed great performance since he came in Chelsea in the last season.

Well, he really deserves to be the player of the month. No doubt, Palmer is one of the great talent that comes from England itself. Wink

Quote from: Ruttoshi on October 13, 2024, 02:33:29 PM

He is very young and has great potentials in him, this was one of the reason why Chelsea gave him a 9 years contract because he is among the players that will rise Chelsea again.

When he was in Man City, everyone has watched his great talent. It makes sense if Chelsea wants to give him a 9 years contract. Palmer showed great progress, he should reach the highest level in his position in the future.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on October 12, 2024, 03:51:22 PM

I'm no blue fan honestly but, so far so good, I can say that they've kicked off the season nicely and I hope to see them end well if they're having suchba great start under Enzo Maresca. He knows what it means to win a trophy and I'm sure that trophy with Leicester City wouldn't be his last. Chelsea has a good record when it comes to Italian managers and I'm certain Enzo Maresca wouldn't be the last Italian that'll succeed with this club. They have a good chance of qualifying for the Champions League Competition and also winning a trophy this very season. But they need to know they're not so solid in defense and getting a CF should be mandatory.

This season actually looks different for the blues and they want to be different this season and they are actually making thay difference because from the beginning Chelsea have spent a lot of money just to give the club a color and they are the club that have changed a coach the most for now they are doing very wel, and Enzo actually have a brilliant record so am not surprised that Chelsea is actually doing well and even if he knows what it means to win a trophy does not mean that he will actually be able to win it.

He did well as a manager and Chelsea will do very well this season, is past with Leicester City was not a bad one so Chelsea will rise again since it is exactly what they want, and their might be a chance that they might qualify for champions league because Enzo is taking his job seriously because he already knows the kind of people is working for.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on October 13, 2024, 12:19:28 PM

Quote from: TelolettOm on October 12, 2024, 06:40:30 PM

Quote from: Odusko on October 12, 2024, 03:52:14 PM

Chelsea have the potential of even fighting for the premier league title not just top four if they have consistency because Palmer is doing great work for the team, and Enzo Maresca is making great effort towards uniting the players, and he has started to get good results.

Chelsea are really getting better and much better. They are doing very well, slowly but surely, last season's failure really taught them a lot. They are evaluating and improving it this season, at least this is a very good beginning for them in this season.

Cole Palmer's role?
exactly, no doubt.
best player of Chelsea right now.
This will continue to grow, and I just found out that he is this cool.

Source: Cole Palmer. Inevitable

Cole Palmer has been key to Chelsea “success” in the Premier League. It is not surprising that he won Player of the Month Award. Cole Palmer has been able to adapt to Maresca style which is very different from what he’s used to at Manchester City and Chelsea under Pochettino. Chelsea got really lucky with his signing, this is without a doubt the best signing Chelsea’s new ownership has made.

Since Todd bought Chelsea, Cole Palmer is the best signing that they have made and he is the only player that is worth the amount of money they used to sign him, and he has been very active in contributing to the victory of Chelsea. Without Palmer, Chelsea will be nowhere. His performance has bee extraordinary last month with many goals and assist giving him the best chance to be the player of the month.

He is very young and has great potentials in him, this was one of the reason why Chelsea gave him a 9 years contract because he is among the players that will rise Chelsea again.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on October 12, 2024, 06:40:30 PM

Chelsea are really getting better and much better. They are doing very well, slowly but surely, last season's failure really taught them a lot. They are evaluating and improving it this season, at least this is a very good beginning for them in this season.

Cole Palmer's role?
exactly, no doubt.
best player of Chelsea right now.
This will continue to grow, and I just found out that he is this cool.

Source: Cole Palmer. Inevitable

This is just incredible man. Maybe Guardiola still has great players in his hands. But I believe he is really sad about losing him after seeing the way he has improved so far. But there is nothing to do... Sad

Palmer isn't a striker but he is no different than that for sure. Grin

He is like a machine. He just keeps his head down and focuses on his game. When we see this passionate players it is more enjoyable to watch.

If you ask me which one would you prefer between Palmer and Haaland, I would say Palmer. Because he is more versatile you know. You can still find a decent striker to keep up with the team.

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Quote from: shinratensei_ on October 13, 2024, 05:09:54 AM

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Quote from: Slow death on October 12, 2024, 09:32:45 AM

Quote from: Oluwa-btc on October 11, 2024, 09:19:48 AM

Jose Mourinho never did what Erik Ten Hag did and lastly, Jose Mourinho's tactics for Manchester United was hell boring, outdated defensive strategy for Manchester United

Has Erik Ten Hag already won the Europa League as Manchester United manager? Well, how much money did each coach spend on Manchester United? Here are the numbers:

Erik Ten hag = £560million on new players

How much has Ten Hag spent on signings?

Mourinho = £360million on new players

I agree Mourinho’s style is not entertaining but I would not mind parking the bus and winning trophies. Ten Hag had the most financial backing from Manchester United hierarchy than any other manager. But Ten Hag and his fans refuse to admit that this manager has been given all the backing to make something out of this team but has failed woefully. Erik Ten Hag once said in an interview that Jose Mourinho is the only manager who has had the players he wanted since Sir Alex Ferguson. I think that statement from Ten Hag is hypocritical considering how much the club has spent bringing in players Ten Hag specifically wanted and has worked with in the past.

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Basically, it doesn't really matter in what tactic used by the club as long as they could win the game, and that's fine. There's no rule that disallowing a club to use parking bus strategy.

Mourinho spent around 350 million when he was at Manchester United. It's quite big, too. Yet he helped them to get 1 europa league trophy, though, It's a lot to spent 350 just to get a single trophy.

However, I see nothing different with Ten Hag here. He refused to be backed by United. But, the Glazers and Ineos, the owners of club, did back him, indirectly. This showed from the decision not to axed him. But i should agree with you if Ten Hag was quite hyprocrisy here by said that he wanted the players Mourinho had.
He made Manchester United became another ajax, he brough a lot of players from his former club. It's really unethical to hear that from him.

In my opinion, Erik Ten Hag's biggest problem is that he can't have good relationships with the players. For example, to this day I still can't understand why he didn't keep David de Gea. If he had managed to have good relationships with Ronaldo, then Ronaldo would still be playing for Manchester. Many players left the team because of disagreements with Erik Ten Hag. But it's unbelievable that the club's management can't see these problems. On the contrary, they have supported Erik Ten Hag and even hired 2 assistant coaches. It's as if the Manchester United management were doing everything they could to keep Erik Ten Hag as coach.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on October 12, 2024, 03:35:55 PM

Erik Ten Hag is who the ownership want. All that money spent and no progress has made since the season started. Erik Ten Hag’s attitude irritates me, Manchester United shouldn’t be happy with the draw to Aston Villa. Ten Hag has successfully manipulated United fans into accepting the mediocrity of mid level performance. Manchester United are not thinking of winning the Premier League or the Champions League again. It's a losers mentality and it won’t change with Ten Hag managing the club.

Right now yeah. But of you want him out, who do you think is that right name to get Manchester United up again? I don't mean for just a season but consistently, any name?! Changes takes time and not just a season does the trick. Manchester United fans are just too over expectant which they should but changes and rebuilding takes some quality time. The least you can do if he irritates you is to ignore. Even before Erik ten Hag came in as manager, the standards of Manchester United has already been reduced. Go see how Mikel Arteta did during his third season.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on October 13, 2024, 12:19:28 PM

Quote from: TelolettOm on October 12, 2024, 06:40:30 PM

Quote from: Odusko on October 12, 2024, 03:52:14 PM

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Chelsea are really getting better and much better. They are doing very well, slowly but surely, last season's failure really taught them a lot. They are evaluating and improving it this season, at least this is a very good beginning for them in this season.

Cole Palmer's role?
exactly, no doubt.
best player of Chelsea right now.
This will continue to grow, and I just found out that he is this cool.

Source: Cole Palmer. Inevitable

Cole Palmer has been key to Chelsea “success” in the Premier League. It is not surprising that he won Player of the Month Award. Cole Palmer has been able to adapt to Maresca style which is very different from what he’s used to at Manchester City and Chelsea under Pochettino. Chelsea got really lucky with his signing, this is without a doubt the best signing Chelsea’s new ownership has made.

Palmer, who was bought by Chelsea for only 40 million, was actually able to make a huge contribution compared to the player who was recruited by them previously of 100 million euros Grin

, I think Chelsea are lucky enough to get Palmer from Manchester City because he has indeed managed to be the key to Chelsea game so far, His quick adaptation to Maresca style of play and his significant contribution in every Chelsea game is really very impressive, so it is quite worthy if he was the best player in the Premier League last season, looking at the needs of the current team then I think Palmer recruitment by Chelsea is indeed very appropriate because he has the sharpness and also the speed that can support the attractive game strategy of Maresca, but I think, Maresca should not be too burden Palmer at the moment because if that happens then Chelsea will be very dependent with his in every of their matches, because when Palmer is injured or absent then it will greatly affect Chelsea performance and stability later.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on October 12, 2024, 06:40:30 PM

Quote from: Odusko on October 12, 2024, 03:52:14 PM

Chelsea have the potential of even fighting for the premier league title not just top four if they have consistency because Palmer is doing great work for the team, and Enzo Maresca is making great effort towards uniting the players, and he has started to get good results.

Chelsea are really getting better and much better. They are doing very well, slowly but surely, last season's failure really taught them a lot. They are evaluating and improving it this season, at least this is a very good beginning for them in this season.

Cole Palmer's role?
exactly, no doubt.
best player of Chelsea right now.
This will continue to grow, and I just found out that he is this cool.

Source: Cole Palmer. Inevitable

Cole Palmer has been key to Chelsea “success” in the Premier League. It is not surprising that he won Player of the Month Award. Cole Palmer has been able to adapt to Maresca style which is very different from what he’s used to at Manchester City and Chelsea under Pochettino. Chelsea got really lucky with his signing, this is without a doubt the best signing Chelsea’s new ownership has made.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on October 13, 2024, 01:40:30 AM

Quote from: Slow death on October 12, 2024, 09:32:45 AM

Quote from: Oluwa-btc on October 11, 2024, 09:19:48 AM

Jose Mourinho never did what Erik Ten Hag did and lastly, Jose Mourinho's tactics for Manchester United was hell boring, outdated defensive strategy for Manchester United

Has Erik Ten Hag already won the Europa League as Manchester United manager? Well, how much money did each coach spend on Manchester United? Here are the numbers:

Erik Ten hag = £560million on new players

How much has Ten Hag spent on signings?

Mourinho = £360million on new players

I agree Mourinho’s style is not entertaining but I would not mind parking the bus and winning trophies. Ten Hag had the most financial backing from Manchester United hierarchy than any other manager. But Ten Hag and his fans refuse to admit that this manager has been given all the backing to make something out of this team but has failed woefully. Erik Ten Hag once said in an interview that Jose Mourinho is the only manager who has had the players he wanted since Sir Alex Ferguson. I think that statement from Ten Hag is hypocritical considering how much the club has spent bringing in players Ten Hag specifically wanted and has worked with in the past.

Source: Internet

Basically, it doesn't really matter in what tactic used by the club as long as they could win the game, and that's fine. There's no rule that disallowing a club to use parking bus strategy.

Mourinho spent around 350 million when he was at Manchester United. It's quite big, too. Yet he helped them to get 1 europa league trophy, though, It's a lot to spent 350 just to get a single trophy.

However, I see nothing different with Ten Hag here. He refused to be backed by United. But, the Glazers and Ineos, the owners of club, did back him, indirectly. This showed from the decision not to axed him. But i should agree with you if Ten Hag was quite hyprocrisy here by said that he wanted the players Mourinho had.
He made Manchester United became another ajax, he brough a lot of players from his former club. It's really unethical to hear that from him.

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Quote from: Slow death on October 12, 2024, 09:32:45 AM

Quote from: Oluwa-btc on October 11, 2024, 09:19:48 AM

Jose Mourinho never did what Erik Ten Hag did and lastly, Jose Mourinho's tactics for Manchester United was hell boring, outdated defensive strategy for Manchester United

Has Erik Ten Hag already won the Europa League as Manchester United manager? Well, how much money did each coach spend on Manchester United? Here are the numbers:

Erik Ten hag = £560million on new players

How much has Ten Hag spent on signings?

Mourinho = £360million on new players

I agree Mourinho’s style is not entertaining but I would not mind parking the bus and winning trophies. Ten Hag had the most financial backing from Manchester United hierarchy than any other manager. But Ten Hag and his fans refuse to admit that this manager has been given all the backing to make something out of this team but has failed woefully. Erik Ten Hag once said in an interview that Jose Mourinho is the only manager who has had the players he wanted since Sir Alex Ferguson. I think that statement from Ten Hag is hypocritical considering how much the club has spent bringing in players Ten Hag specifically wanted and has worked with in the past.

Source: Internet

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Quote from: TelolettOm on October 12, 2024, 06:40:30 PM

Chelsea are really getting better and much better. They are doing very well, slowly but surely, last season's failure really taught them a lot. They are evaluating and improving it this season, at least this is a very good beginning for them in this season.

Cole Palmer's role?
exactly, no doubt.
best player of Chelsea right now.
This will continue to grow, and I just found out that he is this cool.

I hope he commits his performance until the last session because I was just a bit doubtful when I saw him play when Chelsea met Nottingham Forest a while ago, he is not like Palmer who created 4 goals when met Brighton. He didn't know what to do when he got ball, he was confused to shoot it or pass it to another player. It seems like he has stage fright because many people praise him and expecting to him like he was. So if he is the best, and want to continue as the best player on premier league, Palmer must show it at all events, don't just it once, but for all tournament for Chelsea. He should look at Haaland how that player always commits his performance on each match and tournament.

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