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Quote from: Dzwaafu11 on August 16, 2024, 04:02:13 PM

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-snip-but with the experience he has I think De Ligt is still good enough to be an addition to the Manchester United defense line, especially with Yoro's injury which was actually very much expected to make a breakthrough in the defense line, but it still cannot be implemented so that De Ligt can fill that position for the next few months and to make a better adventure at the new club.

Manchester United have really improved their defense and that is a good thing because they had a lot of problems in defense last season. I also hope to see Leny Yoro's performance because he is considered one of the talented young defenders at the moment. Unfortunately, an injury made him out for 3 months and that is not a short time. De Ligt is expected to help the defense and he came at the right time. His performance with Munich was not so good but I think De Ligt is still one of the best center backs at the moment.

I'm also expecting Manchester United to be back in form because last season was a total bad season for them, so I think they will try to make such mistakes again, although we understand that some of their positions were weak, and defense is one of them, and now they have found a solution to that with one of the best young defenders, so I'm hoping to see them at the top this coming season. They should not relent like last season. Manchester United is a big team that needs to get trophies like other clubs.

Although this victory was not easy, MU got 3 valuable points to start the new season smoothly. Their defense is still not reassuring, the mediocre attack of Fulham's strikers still does not give us the answer that the MU defense is improving. The arrangement of 4 midfielders in the central area helps MU have the advantage in numbers to overwhelm Fulham's midfield. However, this also caused some problems. MU showed that they were still perplexed when facing the opponent's counter-attacks, when the first line of defense, the midfielders, was overcome. In fact, MU was very lucky not to concede after Fulham's dangerous counter-attacks. Goalkeeper Andre Onana and new defender Noussair Mazraoui impressed, while Mathijs de Ligt only entered the field in the 81st minute and had few opportunities to show himself.

Meanwhile, I see that MU's attack is losing itself, especially Marcus Rashford, and I also remind Garnacho to improve his finishing ability.

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Quote from: blue Snow on August 16, 2024, 08:11:56 PM

I am really sure Liverpool can easy to defeat Ipswich tonight. besides have minimal a experience on premier league, Ipswich just appeared premier league for the first time since 22 years ago, in the player material Liverpool is far superior than Ipswich, and it is certain that make the trouble for the hosts. This match also a proving ground for a new coach Slot, all eyes will be on him, because many people still doubt him can bring liverpool much better than kloops. So far the odds still predicting Liverpool to be win. Sure, 0-2 can be realistic for this match.

Definitely it is going to be a must win for Liverpool tonight against Ipswich town. because this is their first game of the season and with their new appointed head coach I think they wouldn't like to give any space for Ipswich town in this game, because as long as premier league is concerned Liverpool will try as much as possible to start up the season with winning ways to enable them gather more confident before their next match.

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I watched Manu and Fulham match yesterday. Indeed, the Premier League is very different and of high quality.
My players' minds are completely focused on football. The stadium is amazing, the field is amazing. The British are very lucky when it comes to football. Be tired and stressed during the week, go to the stadium and watch the match on the weekend, you will forget everything. Coming back to the match, Manu won the match 1-0, but Fulham also played very quality football.

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Quote from: blue Snow on August 16, 2024, 08:11:56 PM

I am really sure Liverpool can easy to defeat Ipswich tonight. besides have minimal a experience on premier league, Ipswich just appeared premier league for the first time since 22 years ago, in the player material Liverpool is far superior than Ipswich, and it is certain that make the trouble for the hosts. This match also a proving ground for a new coach Slot, all eyes will be on him, because many people still doubt him can bring liverpool much better than kloops. So far the odds still predicting Liverpool to be win. Sure, 0-2 can be realistic for this match.

This is Arne Slot's first match in charge of Liverpool since being appointed as head coach, although statistically Liverpool are stronger than Ipswich, Slot will try to field his best squad to get the first three points. This match is not too difficult for Liverpool even though they are playing at their opponent's home base, the quality of Liverpool's players will make it very easy for them to dominate the match and even score more than one goal in the first half. Three points is a price that cannot be offered for Liverpool, especially as Arne Slot needs to prove his ability as a worthy replacement for Jurgen Klopp. The score of 0-2 is too little considering the quality of both teams, Liverpool will not play friendly in this game, they will try to score as many goals as possible to increase their confidence in the next match.

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I am really sure Liverpool can easy to defeat Ipswich tonight. besides have minimal a experience on premier league, Ipswich just appeared premier league for the first time since 22 years ago, in the player material Liverpool is far superior than Ipswich, and it is certain that make the trouble for the hosts. This match also a proving ground for a new coach Slot, all eyes will be on him, because many people still doubt him can bring liverpool much better than kloops. So far the odds still predicting Liverpool to be win. Sure, 0-2 can be realistic for this match.

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Quote from: Dzwaafu11 on August 16, 2024, 04:02:13 PM

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-snip-but with the experience he has I think De Ligt is still good enough to be an addition to the Manchester United defense line, especially with Yoro's injury which was actually very much expected to make a breakthrough in the defense line, but it still cannot be implemented so that De Ligt can fill that position for the next few months and to make a better adventure at the new club.

Manchester United have really improved their defense and that is a good thing because they had a lot of problems in defense last season. I also hope to see Leny Yoro's performance because he is considered one of the talented young defenders at the moment. Unfortunately, an injury made him out for 3 months and that is not a short time. De Ligt is expected to help the defense and he came at the right time. His performance with Munich was not so good but I think De Ligt is still one of the best center backs at the moment.

I'm also expecting Manchester United to be back in form because last season was a total bad season for them, so I think they will try to make such mistakes again, although we understand that some of their positions were weak, and defense is one of them, and now they have found a solution to that with one of the best young defenders, so I'm hoping to see them at the top this coming season. They should not relent like last season. Manchester United is a big team that needs to get trophies like other clubs.

I think with the come of many new signings on United, and it's slowly solving the problems. Manchester United brought in some good defenders. We fixed our defense, so we aren't concerned about it again. And now with the good result against Fulham, we seem back on the right track again.

With all the transfers Manchester United made in the summer window, they're fine now. We won't encounter the same problem as last season. They're playing very solidly against Fulham, and we took three points. This is really a decent start from Manchester United.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on August 16, 2024, 06:22:45 PM

At least, they won their first game in EPL as the starter match.
And yes, their defense at this game was quite increasing.

It is good that Man United could win their first match in EPL this season. It is a nice start although I think Man United should score more goals in this match. Fulham is a mediocre team, Man United needs to beat them with bigger score. If Man United attackers have a better accuracy, they could score 2 goals at least. Ten Hag needs to evaluate the starting lineup for the next match. It is better to put Joshua Zirkzee, Alejandro Garnacho, and Marcus Rashford in the attacking line. Don't use Bruno Fernandes as a striker, it is proven as a bad idea in this match.

I agree Man United defense looks better in this match. They could win the game without a conceded goal. It proves that there is an improvement in Man United defense. I hope Man United defense can maintain their good performance in the whole season. With De Light and Mazraoui, Man United has good options for the defenders now.

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Quote from: Dzwaafu11 on August 16, 2024, 04:02:13 PM

I'm also expecting Manchester United to be back in form because last season was a total bad season for them, so I think they will try to make such mistakes again, although we understand that some of their positions were weak, and defense is one of them, and now they have found a solution to that with one of the best young defenders, so I'm hoping to see them at the top this coming season. They should not relent like last season. Manchester United is a big team that needs to get trophies like other clubs.

At least, they won their first game in EPL as the starter match.
And yes, their defense at this game was quite increasing.
Mazraoui came into the starting lineup, and de Ligt replaced him in the second half.

Source: Man United 1 - 0 Fulham

On the other hand, Fulham also quite increased in defense. but, their lack in attacking line seems quite clear. They could only take 2 shots on target throughout the match.

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Quote from: tusandii on August 16, 2024, 03:32:25 PM

3 matches are enough to give me an advantage because the 3 clubs I chose will not let the start of the season be defeated by the club below them.
The Liverpool and Arsenal match may not be too interesting but everyone is very curious and looking forward to the Chelsea match against Manchester City when the coaches know each other very well and hopefully there will be no surprises.
Enzo Maresca's first experience must face Man City with the great coach Pep Guardiola and hopefully there will be no surprises
The odds I have are not too big but more satisfying.

Who says Liverpool's game won't be interesting? I understand that Liverpool isn't playing a team of their size but it's the first game of the season with a new manager that is just getting the hang of things at Liverpool. So it would be interesting to see how he handles the first game of the season. For Arsenal, it's the same. They lost the league last season and would want to start very strong. I understand why Chelsea vs City game is the more anticipated fixture but still, I believe all Gameweek 1 games by teams in the top half of the league will be a good watch. For instance, I'm not a United fan but I enjoyed seeing them struggle against an underdog like Fulham. Tongue

Btw, nice acca slip. Why do you think City will defeat Chelsea at Stamford bridge?

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Quote from: Hanadawa on August 16, 2024, 06:55:08 AM

Quote from: topbitcoin on August 10, 2024, 11:38:57 PM

-snip-but with the experience he has I think De Ligt is still good enough to be an addition to the Manchester United defense line, especially with Yoro's injury which was actually very much expected to make a breakthrough in the defense line, but it still cannot be implemented so that De Ligt can fill that position for the next few months and to make a better adventure at the new club.

Manchester United have really improved their defense and that is a good thing because they had a lot of problems in defense last season. I also hope to see Leny Yoro's performance because he is considered one of the talented young defenders at the moment. Unfortunately, an injury made him out for 3 months and that is not a short time. De Ligt is expected to help the defense and he came at the right time. His performance with Munich was not so good but I think De Ligt is still one of the best center backs at the moment.

I'm also expecting Manchester United to be back in form because last season was a total bad season for them, so I think they will try to make such mistakes again, although we understand that some of their positions were weak, and defense is one of them, and now they have found a solution to that with one of the best young defenders, so I'm hoping to see them at the top this coming season. They should not relent like last season. Manchester United is a big team that needs to get trophies like other clubs.

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3 matches are enough to give me an advantage because the 3 clubs I chose will not let the start of the season be defeated by the club below them.
The Liverpool and Arsenal match may not be too interesting but everyone is very curious and looking forward to the Chelsea match against Manchester City when the coaches know each other very well and hopefully there will be no surprises.
Enzo Maresca's first experience must face Man City with the great coach Pep Guardiola and hopefully there will be no surprises
The odds I have are not too big but more satisfying.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on August 16, 2024, 06:58:15 AM

Man Utd have to do well this season surely or Ten Hat should be sacked. This is his third season now and they are no nearer to winning the PL or CL since he arrived.

He has spent £600,000,000 now. No more excuses, he must compete for the big trophies (not FA Cup or League Cup).

I couldn't agree more. After all that money spent the expectations are getting bigger naturally. But still no impressive result in hand. This season is most probably the last chance for Erik ten Hag.

Currently the Fulham game is going on and it is halftime. The score is still 0-0. When I checked the squad I was surprised with what I saw. There was no centre-forward available to play.

Now Bruno Fernandes is playing there and can't be effective of course. Sad

Maybe Garnacho would be a better choice in such situation but it is ten Hag's choice. It feels like a win by 1-0 on the way.

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This is definitely a good thing for us, we have been waiting for this to start for a while now and I think it is going to be a good season and a lot of fun. I normally dislike summer period a lot because usually there aren't any games, but this summer was one of the ones that had it, euro 2024 was there and I think it was a good one but still it's very few games in total, so it wasn't really that fun and season was missed.

Now we can watch like nearly 50+ games a weekend, I do not watch all of them of course, and I mean like not even highlights of all of them, but I try to keep up with at least 15-20 games every weekend because of the teams I check and bets I make. In the end, this is going to be easier for betting as well, it is going to be good because we are going to end up with more games to bet on and more profits as well. This should be the most important part, and if we can keep this going then we are going to be doing fine in the end and be a lot better for sure.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on August 16, 2024, 06:55:08 AM

Manchester United have really improved their defense and that is a good thing because they had a lot of problems in defense last season. I also hope to see Leny Yoro's performance because he is considered one of the talented young defenders at the moment. Unfortunately, an injury made him out for 3 months and that is not a short time. De Ligt is expected to help the defense and he came at the right time. His performance with Munich was not so good but I think De Ligt is still one of the best center backs at the moment.

If with way Manchester United feel they have improved their defense am already see Fulham winning this game their is nothing that will stop them Fulham from winning and I see Chelsea fans waiting for fulham to actually win Manchester United. And defense was not the only problem they have last season, just that defense was part of it, and now if Fulham should win then the defense they think they have fixed already, with the current situation on ground Manchester United are already having three shots on target, so their already showing signs that they might actually win this game and we all know Manchester United the more they are putting in pressure they might win but I am already having a strong feeling that they might actually draw this game because Fulham will also give they a tough time. The end will determine then we are going to know who won because sometimes predictions are usually very difficult.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on August 16, 2024, 06:58:15 AM

Man Utd have to do well this season surely or Ten Hat should be sacked. This is his third season now and they are no nearer to winning the PL or CL since he arrived.

He has spent £600,000,000 now. No more excuses, he must compete for the big trophies (not FA Cup or League Cup).

I see no reason why Manchester United should keep Ten Hag if he doesn’t perform well this current season, he has been given enough time to improve the club's performance and has been given money to improve the club's performance, so he has no reason to perform poorly this season.

The Manchester United vs. Fulham match has started, just a few minutes have been played, but I am not still satisfied with the Manchester United defense. Fulham are still having it kind of easy to penetrate, even as they haven’t been able to score any goal, but I expected more from Manchester United.

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Quote from: Queentoshi on August 16, 2024, 08:36:19 AM

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Liverpool travels to Ipswich, I bet on Liverpool's victory. Manchester United also think they can win over Fulham.

Ipswich town meet a very strong and experienced opponent on their return to the EPL, Liverpool will not be easy meat, they have one of the best attackers in the world, and some of the best defenders. The new coach is looking good for the team, and he surely will like his team to start the season winning this game and scoring as many goas as possible.
For Fulham, the new player they have from Arsenal is the one I see everywhere, if he scores today against Manchester United, and really help them win the game, his confidence for the season will really increase.

Do you mean Emile Smith Rowe, a player brought in by Fulham from Arsenal, I don't think this will completely guarantee good results. Because after all, Emile Smith Rowe is still relatively young and, in fact, Emile Smith Rowe didn't get many playing opportunities at Arsenal last season, so maybe that's what made Arsenal sell Emile Smith Rowe because he didn't get a place in the main squad.

But for the match against Manchester United in this moment, in fact Emile Smith Rowe was included in the starting line up. But at least, we still can't be sure whether the results will be good or not in this match. Because after all, Manchester United will of course play optimally in an early match like this, what's more, Manchester United is also playing at home, so I'm also sure Manchester United will win.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on August 16, 2024, 06:58:15 AM

Man Utd have to do well this season surely or Ten Hat should be sacked. This is his third season now and they are no nearer to winning the PL or CL since he arrived.

He has spent £600,000,000 now. No more excuses, he must compete for the big trophies (not FA Cup or League Cup).

I am not seeing anything spectacular about Ten Hag coaching style because United is yet to put up a formidable team that will aim the UCL or CL title. I feel they are still doing trial by error which is rather unfortunate for a coach that have stayed two seasons. Check their matches during the break, did that show any hope for the new season? Anyways, it is too early to say because surprises still happens. I just hope the Red Devils are able to reclaim their past glory that is long overdue.

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Quote from: Docnaster on August 16, 2024, 12:23:28 PM

Quote from: Hanadawa on August 16, 2024, 06:55:08 AM

Quote from: topbitcoin on August 10, 2024, 11:38:57 PM

-snip-but with the experience he has I think De Ligt is still good enough to be an addition to the Manchester United defense line, especially with Yoro's injury which was actually very much expected to make a breakthrough in the defense line, but it still cannot be implemented so that De Ligt can fill that position for the next few months and to make a better adventure at the new club.

I don't want to agree that there's anyone doubting the defensive qualities of Manchester United's recent signing Matthijs de Ligt unless the person knows little or nothing about the Dutch defender. Manchester United have signed few defenders this season including Leny Yoro who's currently injured and Noussair Mazrauoi but I don't think there's any of them that can beat de Ligt's defensive records. I expect him to significantly improve the defensive strength of Manchester United backline with his presence and leadership qualities.

Manchester United brought in De Light because they lost Leny Yoro who they had just recruited , so like it or not, Manchester United was forced to resume negotiations with Bayern Munich after previously stopping negotiations after their getting Leny Yoro, the presence of De Light and Mazraoui is likely to make their defense this season will be strong, but we also cannot deny that bad possibilities could also happen considering Manchester United experience last season, the previous season Ten Hag brought in Varane, Casemiro, Bissaka and also Martinez to maintain their defense and we are in here also say If Manchester United defense would be strong considering the experience and abilities they have so far as defenders, but in fact, we seen if Manchester United is the team that conceded almost the same as the goals they scored last season?

Honestly, there will be a big difference when De Light plays for Manchester United than Munich in next seasons, so we cannot claim that his performance will be the same as when his played in the Munich squad previous, because there are many factors that will influence a players performance when he plays for new team and new league so far.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on August 16, 2024, 06:58:15 AM

Man Utd have to do well this season surely or Ten Hat should be sacked. This is his third season now and they are no nearer to winning the PL or CL since he arrived.

He has spent £600,000,000 now. No more excuses, he must compete for the big trophies (not FA Cup or League Cup).

Manchester United have been down for multiple seasons and for sure in the last season, their hard some positive development that made them to at least make notable record's, which we can use as a baseline to making our predictions about the club in this season, because at some point, it is very important for a club to sign new signings but still Manchester United have not made any notable signing in preparation for the coming season yet, but calling for the coach sack will not solve the issue, because I think that the problem facing Manchester United is that of management and not Coach.

If the club managers fixed their internal problems I think it will reflect on time since the season is just some week's ahead, getting a new coach at this point may become counter productive for them against the next season, since bringing in new coach will mean that he need time to get used to the player's and that time is not available for Manchester United right now.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on August 16, 2024, 06:55:08 AM

Quote from: topbitcoin on August 10, 2024, 11:38:57 PM

-snip-but with the experience he has I think De Ligt is still good enough to be an addition to the Manchester United defense line, especially with Yoro's injury which was actually very much expected to make a breakthrough in the defense line, but it still cannot be implemented so that De Ligt can fill that position for the next few months and to make a better adventure at the new club.

I don't want to agree that there's anyone doubting the defensive qualities of Manchester United's recent signing Matthijs de Ligt unless the person knows little or nothing about the Dutch defender. Manchester United have signed few defenders this season including Leny Yoro who's currently injured and Noussair Mazrauoi but I don't think there's any of them that can beat de Ligt's defensive records. I expect him to significantly improve the defensive strength of Manchester United backline with his presence and leadership qualities.

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