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Quote from: ShaneDiesel on August 12, 2024, 11:18:24 AM

Chelsea again throwing money buying players here and there but if they are actually serious and building up the youngsters there, primier league could be seeing prime Chelsea in next few years.

I applaud Chelsea's involvement in the transfer market this season. As you have noted, it doesn't end in buying players. You may buy many players but if there's no modalities to use them well, they will not be resourceful.
Chelsea should learn to give their coaches favourable conditions to stay and not to exit them after every season. If the management works with the crop of players Chelsea has now, they can be hoping to rebuild the club with the next 3 seasons.

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Quote from: Issa56 on August 11, 2024, 04:43:34 PM

Quote from: klidex on August 11, 2024, 12:31:36 AM

Manchester United seems to be moving quickly to recruit defenders who have strong potential in maintaining their defense.

Manchester United really needs defenders because their defense was just too poor last season, which made their goalkeepers performances worse. Even as we know that Onana made some stupid mistakes last season and conceded so many goals, if Manchester United had a strong defense, then he wouldn’t have conceded so much, some balls would be blocked by the defenders and wouldn’t get to the goalkeeper, but since their defense was weak, it also affected their goalkeeper. Ten Hag has really done well by trying to strengthen the defense of the club. I'm sure it’s really going to help the team’s performance.

They know that so now they immediately move quickly to make a breakthrough by bringing Yoro from Lille, besides the current rumors about them who will bring in the Bayern duo where de Ligt and Mazraoui are ready to be brought in to further strengthen their defense line which is still quite fragile.
Their decision last season to bring back the aged Evans was actually quite questionable for the defense but for this season I think they are better prepared despite the misfortune for Yoro because of the immediate injury that makes them unable to force him to play in the next few months but at least when De Ligt and Mazraoui join Manchester United then the defense is expected to be better than before.

Manchester United are trying to make some waves with their new players in defense and attack which of course is pretty good. But it would be better for next season, if Ten Hag tries to understand a little more about the players' conditions and not be too arrogant with his nature because it can have more impact on chemistry and performance improvement.

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I guess we can say as of now that Manchester United has taken a big step to solve defense issues. de Ligt and Mazraoui are important transfers. But I want to see one last transfer. It should be to the defensive midfield position. Ugarte isn't coming anymore seemingly. Zubimendi is also a good option but Liverpool is after him too. If none of them happens then there is no need to worry.

Sander Berge is another option to think about. He is a central midfielder in fact but can play in both positions at the same time. He has even played most of his career as a defensive midfielder. I think they should consider him too. Wink

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Quote from: Velvet78 on August 12, 2024, 11:02:14 AM

Quote from: TelolettOm on August 11, 2024, 06:17:08 PM

Chelsea are prepared to splash out €60m plus €3m add-ons to finally sign Pedro Neto. Is this the right Right Winger and worth purchasing for this club?
Current market value: €55.00m
sign for 6 years, now he's 24YO. well...

Source: Chelsea sign Pedro Neto

Pedro Neto is one of the most versatile players I have seen recently. Even though he is mainly a RW, he can play nearly everywhere in the attacking line.

His previous season statistics were also impressive. Like 2 goals, 9 assists in 20 games. Considering he is still young this is a good thinking for Chelsea. The only side I can criticize is that the amount they spend seems a bit high. But Wolves didn't want to let him go for a cheap price after the big increase in his market value. I believe Neto will make a good score contribution to Chelsea.

It means Chelsea is good if they release Sterling to Juventus. We have too many RWs, and Neto can rotate to play as LW. But I'm not a fan of this signing, and this is caused by it's a very typical Chelsea's signing. They sign a really good player in a position where they already have some depth. And it's not understandable.

Netto's role was very versatile. But, why not get a pure LW instead of adding another RW to the squad? Also, you forgot to consider Netto's injury-proneness. I know Chelsea recruited him because he is able to play in an inverted system, which is our system.

And last, hopefully Neto plays his best football at LW in our inverted system.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on August 10, 2024, 06:42:57 PM

Finally! I have been waiting for the Red Devils to take a big step for their own good. They have finally done it.

While Wan-Bissaka has signed for West Ham, the Mazraoui deal came with a great timing. He is much better than Dalot so I don't expect him to have problems on being a regular starter. Maybe this can push Dalot to play better from now on.

I'm especially happy about finalizing de Ligt agreement. Leny Yoro is out for 3 months so they needed another CB immediately de Ligt is coming just in time while there is less than a week left for the new season to begin.

This might be good news for Manchester United fans after signing two defenders from Bayern Munich. I'm not impressed that Ten Hags managed to sign more players to improve their performance because Ten Hag has reconnected with his former Ajax players. In the last two seasons, Ten Hag brought three players from his former club to Manchester United, but we didn't see any improvement with them; Antony isn't performing as well as he used to, and Onana concedes more goals than any other goalkeeper in the Premier League. Ten Hag has signed two of his former Ajax defenders to Manchester United; can we expect something new from them next season? Despite the fact that they are recruiting several players, I do not expect much from them next season.

Quote from: X-ray on August 11, 2024, 01:06:22 PM

Another friendly match ended today. Chelsea was drawing with Inter Milan. What I'm concerned about is how Yann Sommer served as a big wall for Inter Milan today. He blocked everything, but Lesley was able to score for Chelsea in the last minute of game.

In this game, Chelsea was also presenting their new player, namely Pedro Neto from Wolves. Inter Milan's performance is not that bad, though. They played more defensively than Chelsea. And i see some improvement from Chelsea today.

Some Blues players, such as Renato Veiga, Samu, and Tosin, showed outstanding performances. I am totally aware if this is a friendly game, but they deserve it.

To be honest, Chelsea performed great in this game against Inter Milan, since the start of the pre-season, they have not defended as well as they did against Inter Milan. The Chelsea defense improves, it seems that Enzo Maresca has learned from previous pre-season games since their performance in this match is different. If they continue this way, Chelsea will have a chance to finish in the top ten next season.

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Quote from: Issa56 on August 11, 2024, 04:43:34 PM

Quote from: klidex on August 11, 2024, 12:31:36 AM

Manchester United seems to be moving quickly to recruit defenders who have strong potential in maintaining their defense.

Manchester United really needs defenders because their defense was just too poor last season, which made their goalkeepers performances worse. Even as we know that Onana made some stupid mistakes last season and conceded so many goals, if Manchester United had a strong defense, then he wouldn’t have conceded so much, some balls would be blocked by the defenders and wouldn’t get to the goalkeeper, but since their defense was weak, it also affected their goalkeeper. Ten Hag has really done well by trying to strengthen the defense of the club. I'm sure it’s really going to help the team’s performance.

Looking at the back line of Manchester United, there's no doubt that they really need to sign at least one quality defender so they don't concede to many goals next season. Leny Yoro who was signed this summer is currently sidelined with injury and will not play for the club at least for the next three months. Recently, popular football journalist Fabrizio Romano recently made a tweet suggesting that Manchester United are in advanced talks with Bayern Munich to sign their defender Matthijs de Ligt and if they can succeed to complete that deal, the club can beat their chest and say they're fully ready for next season

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There are still about 5 more days left to predict the opening match there will be an appearance from Man United vs Fulham. In H2H the two teams have seen that Man United remains a favorite even though Hojlund and Leny Yoro are injured, but according to my prediction Man United still has a great chance of scoring 2 scores. We all know that Man United this season continues to bring new players with amazing quality expertise.
Compared to Fulham, it seems that there is still nothing special about this team and the opportunity to score is still very thin.

The odds given by the bookmakers are very tempting and I prefer the -1 option with odds @1.86. Prediction score 2-0 or maybe 3-1.

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Chelsea again throwing money buying players here and there but if they are actually serious and building up the youngsters there, primier league could be seeing prime Chelsea in next few years.

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Quote from: Issa56 on August 11, 2024, 04:43:34 PM

Quote from: klidex on August 11, 2024, 12:31:36 AM

Manchester United seems to be moving quickly to recruit defenders who have strong potential in maintaining their defense.

Manchester United really needs defenders because their defense was just too poor last season, which made their goalkeepers performances worse. Even as we know that Onana made some stupid mistakes last season and conceded so many goals, if Manchester United had a strong defense, then he wouldn’t have conceded so much, some balls would be blocked by the defenders and wouldn’t get to the goalkeeper, but since their defense was weak, it also affected their goalkeeper. Ten Hag has really done well by trying to strengthen the defense of the club. I'm sure it’s really going to help the team’s performance.

Well with what I saw against Manchester city during the community shield cup , I believe I can say that there have been some kind of improvement to their performance because it wasn't an easy task to actually hold off Manchester city till the 90mins although I would say city wasn't really on their prime too but that being said the defense problem is one that united can atleast make amends in due time but my own concern is even that fool of a goalkeeper called onana, I mean that guy caused so many errors that lead to united losing so many games last season.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on August 11, 2024, 06:17:08 PM

Chelsea are prepared to splash out €60m plus €3m add-ons to finally sign Pedro Neto. Is this the right Right Winger and worth purchasing for this club?
Current market value: €55.00m
sign for 6 years, now he's 24YO. well...

Source: Chelsea sign Pedro Neto

Pedro Neto is one of the most versatile players I have seen recently. Even though he is mainly a RW, he can play nearly everywhere in the attacking line.

His previous season statistics were also impressive. Like 2 goals, 9 assists in 20 games. Considering he is still young this is a good thinking for Chelsea. The only side I can criticize is that the amount they spend seems a bit high. But Wolves didn't want to let him go for a cheap price after the big increase in his market value. I believe Neto will make a good score contribution to Chelsea.

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Quote from: Issa56 on August 11, 2024, 04:43:34 PM

Manchester United really needs defenders because their defense was just too poor last season, which made their goalkeepers performances worse. Even as we know that Onana made some stupid mistakes last season and conceded so many goals, if Manchester United had a strong defense, then he wouldn’t have conceded so much, some balls would be blocked by the defenders and wouldn’t get to the goalkeeper, but since their defense was weak, it also affected their goalkeeper. Ten Hag has really done well by trying to strengthen the defense of the club. I'm sure it’s really going to help the team’s performance.

I agree that Man United needs new defenders. They realize it, that's why they signed new defenders. We have read the current news that they make a deal to sign Matthijs de Ligt and Noussair Mazraoui. Bayern have too many defenders now, it is no problem if they sell Matthijs de Ligt and Noussair Mazraoui. So Man United looks like to have no big difficulty signing both of them. I think it is only about the time that Man United will announce to the publics that they have just signed Matthijs de Ligt and Noussair Mazraoui.

Related news: https://onefootball.com/en/news/manchester-united-agree-to-sign-matthijs-de-ligt-and-noussair-mazraoui-from-bayern-munich-39874754

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Quote from: Velvet78 on August 10, 2024, 06:42:57 PM

Finally! I have been waiting for the Red Devils to take a big step for their own good. They have finally done it.

While Wan-Bissaka has signed for West Ham, the Mazraoui deal came with a great timing. He is much better than Dalot so I don't expect him to have problems on being a regular starter. Maybe this can push Dalot to play better from now on.

I'm especially happy about finalizing de Ligt agreement. Leny Yoro is out for 3 months so they needed another CB immediately. de Ligt is coming just in time while there is less than a week left for the new season to begin.

This too deals were just a matter of time since Manchester United got in. De Ligt was serious candidate right from the starting of this summer window opening and the deal halted due to the amount that Bayern Munich valued him at and the new board at Manchester United wouldn’t splash money like the ones we had at Manchester United before this season. Manchester United Definitely added the Mazourrai to the deals all for them not to allow the $60M they turn to spend just go away. This two players will be excellent additions but i don’t see the likes of Mazaraoui benching Dalot easily , he won the clubs player of the season for a spot but it will be a shame if adding Getty

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Quote from: Issa56 on August 11, 2024, 04:43:34 PM

Quote from: klidex on August 11, 2024, 12:31:36 AM

Manchester United seems to be moving quickly to recruit defenders who have strong potential in maintaining their defense.

Manchester United really needs defenders because their defense was just too poor last season, which made their goalkeepers performances worse. Even as we know that Onana made some stupid mistakes last season and conceded so many goals, if Manchester United had a strong defense, then he wouldn’t have conceded so much, some balls would be blocked by the defenders and wouldn’t get to the goalkeeper, but since their defense was weak, it also affected their goalkeeper. Ten Hag has really done well by trying to strengthen the defense of the club. I'm sure it’s really going to help the team’s performance.

The case of Onana and David De Gea at a point seems similar. If you can remember vividly, Manchester United defense didn't suddenly go wrong in the time of Onana. Even when David the Gea was around, Manchester United had once had bad defense. It was David that served Manchester United from even being relegated that season. That was when he was nicknamed David de save. We also said something about the situation then, that if David had better defense he would be the best goalie in the world. This same situation has faced Onana and we are thinking that his problem is the defense. There is no doubt Onana is a good goalie, but he isn't exceptional and I cannot boldly say that he is better than David de Gea. He is purely better than David only in footing and passes and not in savings.

However, the success of any goalkeeper depends on the formidableness of his defence line.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on August 10, 2024, 06:42:57 PM

Quote from: TelolettOm on August 10, 2024, 06:33:52 PM

Matthijs de Ligt (CB) €45m + fee €5m
Noussair Mazraoui (RB) €15m + fee €5m
Source: Matthijs de Ligt and Noussair Mazraoui

Finally! I have been waiting for the Red Devils to take a big step for their own good. They have finally done it.

While Wan-Bissaka has signed for West Ham, the Mazraoui deal came with a great timing. He is much better than Dalot so I don't expect him to have problems on being a regular starter. Maybe this can push Dalot to play better from now on.

Indeed, they came at quite the right time. Man United's back line is indeed quite bad. At least, with the addition of de Ligt as a center-back and Noussair Mazraoui at right-back.

Man United is getting quite more serious this time. Expecting Maguire and Antony leaving.

Chelsea are prepared to splash out €60m plus €3m add-ons to finally sign Pedro Neto. Is this the right Right Winger and worth purchasing for this club?
Current market value: €55.00m
sign for 6 years, now he's 24YO. well...

Source: Chelsea sign Pedro Neto

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Quote from: klidex on August 11, 2024, 12:31:36 AM

Manchester United seems to be moving quickly to recruit defenders who have strong potential in maintaining their defense.

Manchester United really needs defenders because their defense was just too poor last season, which made their goalkeepers performances worse. Even as we know that Onana made some stupid mistakes last season and conceded so many goals, if Manchester United had a strong defense, then he wouldn’t have conceded so much, some balls would be blocked by the defenders and wouldn’t get to the goalkeeper, but since their defense was weak, it also affected their goalkeeper. Ten Hag has really done well by trying to strengthen the defense of the club. I'm sure it’s really going to help the team’s performance.

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Quote from: aylabadia05 on August 11, 2024, 03:09:34 PM

Ten Hag doesn't seem to have put much trust in Joshua Zirkzee even though he is actually a good striker who was brought in from Bologna. Joshua Zirkzee didn't get any minutes in yesterday's crucial match as Manchester United lost on penalties in the Community Shield final against Manchester City. Basically, Zirkzee could get minutes due to the need for a striker in the Manchester United squad, but Ten Hag doesn't play him.

Joshua Zirkzee has to prove himself worthy of breaking into Manchester United's main squad in the season which starts next week, he can't have fun on the bench and watch his teammates play until the game is over. I certainly wonder why Ten Hag didn't play him in yesterday's match, even though Joshua Zirkzee deserved minutes when their main striker was injured.

I seriously doubt that Zirkzee is the guy who will solve Manchester United's problems and even though I don't really like ten Hag, he is probably smart enough to know that.

Zirkzee got quite lucky in the Bundesliga when he scored a couple of goals every few minutes on average when his role was a joker and he mostly was brought on from the bank later in the game. But he had some lucky positions and scored.

In Serie A he was doing ok I think, but I was quite surprised when I heard that he is about to go to the Premier League. That's a different business and Manchester United is not one of the strongest clubs, meaning if Zirkzee wants to be successful there, it is not like playing for Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga. I doubt he will become an important part of the team, but time will tell whether he can keep up his decent stats in that league as well.

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Quote from: klidex on August 11, 2024, 12:31:36 AM

Quote from: Velvet78 on August 10, 2024, 06:42:57 PM

Manchester United seems to be moving quickly to recruit defenders who have strong potential in maintaining their defense. The two defenders recruited by Manchester United are Bayern Munich defenders who will be an alternative replacement for Leny Yoro who is currently injured until this player recovers. I think Manchester United is very optimistic with these defenders. I am also happy that Manchester United can finally overcome this little problem before the season starts, Man United must be ready, but to overcome the next problem regarding Rasmus Hojlund, hopefully Joshua Zirkzee can be a replacement that meets the club's expectations.

Ten Hag doesn't seem to have put much trust in Joshua Zirkzee even though he is actually a good striker who was brought in from Bologna. Joshua Zirkzee didn't get any minutes in yesterday's crucial match as Manchester United lost on penalties in the Community Shield final against Manchester City. Basically, Zirkzee could get minutes due to the need for a striker in the Manchester United squad, but Ten Hag doesn't play him.

Joshua Zirkzee has to prove himself worthy of breaking into Manchester United's main squad in the season which starts next week, he can't have fun on the bench and watch his teammates play until the game is over. I certainly wonder why Ten Hag didn't play him in yesterday's match, even though Joshua Zirkzee deserved minutes when their main striker was injured.

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I was very impressed with the way Arsenal performed today against Lyon in their Emirate cup game. Their press is insane. Very coordinated and intense. There is this discipline from every single player to win the ball back immediately. Honestly, I have this relief and calmness because I believe Arteta knows what the team needs as he's steering the ship.

What’s more impressive about this Arsenal team is the fact that goals can come from any player in the team. Both goals in the game were from their two center backs. I think they’ve worked and practiced well to be converting from set pieces.

With the performance Manchester City put up in the Community Shield finals yesterday against their rival Manchester United, there’s a high chance Manchester City starts the season slowly again. Arsenal have to take advantage of that and put some daylight between them and Manchester City before the 2nd half of the season if they’re to win the EPL title this season.

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Quote from: Silence Scream on August 11, 2024, 01:17:16 PM

After Yoro recovers, he and De Ligt will form a great centre-back duo. With Mazroui joining the team, Manchester United will have reduced their problems in the defence area to a minimum. I think they are already preparing for next year's squad. They can also transfer some important stars next year. If they develop a very good strategy, I think they will be in a good position for the Champions League this year and will play for the championship next year.

Absolutely, I agree. But it depends on Lisandro Martinez's performance at the same time. He has a chronical injury summary which has made things really difficult for him so far. Sad

But if he doesn't suffer injuries often again then maybe he could strengthen his place in the starting lineup. In this situation Leny Yoro might have to be more patient after he recovers. No matter what Manchester United defense line has got really strong thanks to the recent signings. Finally they are taking concrete steps for bigger achievements. For this season, I hope to see them finishing in top 4.

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Quote from: CryptoBuds on August 11, 2024, 01:14:41 PM

Quote from: Palakka on August 11, 2024, 12:44:48 PM

Alvarez has been a super sub for Manchester City, although his role and contribution is not as big as Haaland, but Guardiola still needs other player to replace his current role, however, it is reported that currently Guardiola is not looking for a player in the transfer market to replace Alvarez, because Guardiola is inclined want to give Greater opportunities for their young players including the players I mentioned above.

I would say the decision to sell Alvarez is going to be a bad decision for Manchester City. In the last two seasons we have seen Alvarez perform brilliantly. Alvarez is an excellent player no doubt. We have seen good performances from Alvarez in most important matches. More importantly, Alvarez was the reason why Manchester City's performance was stable last season. Manchester City's overall performance was likely to be unstable due to Haaland's injury. Alvarez's consistent performances have kept City's performance stable.

Haaland was not getting along injury last season. Also, i can't really understand why you call it as a bad decision. ATM acquired Alvarez from City at a very high price. City got his services a few years after buying Alvarez from River Plate. Then, they sold him for a very high price.
Again, Manchester City is not rushing to get Alvarez's replacement. So, Pep has decided to use a player from City's academy. But, the latest news links City to Rodrygo, but no confirmation so far.

It's a win-win situation for Alvarez and City.

Quote from: CryptoBuds on August 11, 2024, 01:14:41 PM

I don't know which player Guardiola has selected to replace Alvarez. But if Manchester City can't find a suitable replacement for Alvarez, then we might see City's erratic performance next season.

Missing Alvarez won't make City's play erratic. But, I agree that City needs a new striker to back up Haaland.

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