Topic: ⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ - page 181. (Read 72262 times)

You can't compare Chelsea to Manchester United from the fact that it has been obvious especially during pre season that Chelsea defense is wack while Manchester United issues goes more than being the defense but all part of the team there haven't actually been a notably growth from them but their coach is too blinded to see, all because of his shameless pride but like they say pride comes before the fall.

Enzo Maresca's defense choice has a lot of scrutiny but I won't judge more till next season or January let's see if there will be an improvement at the Cb especially

Brighton are doing well for the level the club is ranked. Since they arrived in the premier league they have done so well to remain in the league unlike some other clubs like Leicester City who fell down the pecking order after winning the league title. Brighton are a business minded club and they need to stay relevant in the league to keep closing those big deals. Newcastle on the other hand are overhyped because of their current financial strength but with all the money they, Newcastle have not been able to perform in top competitions against other big clubs.

Manchester United lack both quality strikers and defenders as they have conceded 5 goals and scored only 2. But I don't think that's still the problem, because they have players who can perform well in those positions, it's just a matter of tactics that don't work, at the very least tactics that don't work, at the most - wrong formation of players and their personal instructions. This was originally Ten Haga's problem and continues to be so

Do you enjoy Fantasy Premier League? I have never played that in my life honestly.    But people really get addicted with this game when they start it. I'm also feeling like it will happen to me too as I'm a football lover.

Yeah, Manchester United should do something as soon as possible. I want to see a positive affect of the recent transfers. Technically they have made really good moves to consolidate the defense.

Mazraoui is a great right-back. He is definitely reliable. de Ligt is also a wonderful defender. Much better than playing with a flop like Maguire.    The last transfer Ugarte also has a lot of potential. Casemiro can be replaced by him in the starting eleven.

There is no doubt Liverpool  are doing great this season, but my trust and hope for them died last season, afterwhich they have had a good play for a long while, they just suddenly  start losing form for no reason, and that wasn't a good experience for them. I believed they would strive for the EPL title  last season but unfortunately, Manchester city took the lead and won the trophy. Though they started strong this season, with an outstanding play, I hope they continue  with this form, rather than beginning to flop when the season is getting to an end. Brighton is also keeping up strong, but I believe  they'll  loss form when the season  start getting tough.

Manchester United's main problem at the start of this season was that they did not have a truly productive striker and a strong defense. In 3 matches, Manchester United was only able to score 2 goals and conceded 5 goals. This statistic illustrates how weak they are compared to other teams, even Chelsea is still better if goal productivity is compared.

So far, Chelsea also doesn't have a strong defense, of course because they are as bad as Manchester United, where they have conceded 5 goals in 3 matches. Chelsea and Manchester United are not favorites to be in the top four at the end of the season, but they could improve over time and gain the best places.

Liverpool might have a new manager, but they don't have a new squad. With the way Liverpool team have been playing since the start of the season, I will say this Liverpool team is up for something in the premier league. They have been the only team that's yet to conceed a goal among the teams that finished top 4 last season. And so far they have been more consistent than Arsenal this season. They are only behind to Manchester City if not that Manchester City has been on a perfect start to the season, Liverpool would have been top of the league. Not many people really thought that Liverpool will be where they are currently after Klopp left last season. Don't be surprised if Liverpool finish ahead of Arsenal this season.

Brighton is always doing the same thing every season and if it is about starting well every season that is what Brighton ia good at but been consistent ia something that they find it very had to do, their performance is always for a short time and that is why I don't even take them seriously because Brighton will always be Brighton they give the management and there fans hope that won't last long. Tottenham also have the same and Burnley but at the end of the day they will not make any difference, I practically know how they have been misbehaving for some seasons now. Newcastle and Aston Villa is even better because they are still able to try and keep up because Aston Villa gave Arsenal a tough time and they stopped is from winning the trophy and I feel like that will repeat it self this season.



I don't think they can be able to compete with the mentioned teams. And even Manchester City will not be easily affected, and even Arsenal because even when Arsenal played with Aston villa and it was a revenge we already know our top they are always consistent with maintaining their their top four, all this one maintaining the top four are not the original top four holders so the main top fours are coming very soon. Brighton can not be able to maintain that position, and  we are just unders observation first because their is a lot of underground cooking a lot of people will be surprised with what is going to happen in the Premier League.  But not a  surprise from Brighton.

Manchester City and Arsenal are two teams that have a very capable attacking line at the moment, but we can't compare Haalaand and Havertz at the moment even though they are in the same position as a central striker, Haalaand is plotted by Guardiola as a pure attacker which means he only needs to wait for the ball to come to score, while Havertz I don't see him as a main striker because he is more mobile in playing to the Arsenal center line and defense so far, Arsenal actually rely more wing line for attacked and scoring while Havertz in my opinion is more inclined to play two roles as an Amc and also a striker at the moment, Arsenal in recent seasons have indeed been linked with Gyokeres but I think it's just an issue raised by the media, because so far Sporting Lisbon has never received an official offer from Arsenal to sign Gyokeres who has a release clause of 100 million euros.

What leaves me more in awe is the fact that they had a strong formidable team and all of a sudden, an intercontinental war ruined it in a single night. The poor managerial team gave players on lease and use wrong formations in every game... At the time,it was obvious how they had to struggle really hard to draw against a small team like Brentford.

Now, they've got alot of players trippin'... If Jackson isn't the right 9, why not just go for someone else that could replace him ?? He looks more like a central midfielder to me. I've noticed that he's good in laying out passes. Wrong positioning can do alot of damage to a one skilled player.

I do not understand Chelsea’s transfer strategy because Todd Boehly keeps making surprising moves. At some point, I thought that the club was focusing on improving the first team squad and getting a striker to suport Jackson. Looking at the recruitment so far, Chelsea now records more than 30 first teams players,  many of them are never going to be starters. This makes you wonder what strategy Chelsea are adopting with their transfers whether it is for instant improvement or for future sale and profit.

I think exactly the same about the striker difference between Arsenal and Manchester City. At one side, there is Haaland. But at the other side, there is Havertz who isn't even a natural striker.    Arsenal was actually going to sign Gyökeres but it failed... I assume they found Sporting's asking price too high. But he was still worth it. Making a single signing was going to be enough already. They have a great squad.

Lastly I don't know whether you are a Manchester United fan. But you must also be unsatisfied with this performance. I really want them to get better of course. I miss Alex Ferguson times...

Good list, but I would agree more if you put Liverpool above Arsenal.
Arsenal does have a great coach and Arteta has also been with Arsenal for a long time. But looking at Arsenal achievements from the last 2 seasons still makes me doubtful that they can compete for first place or runner up. On the one hand, Liverpool seems to be getting better even though they are no longer with Klopp but we can see their performance in the EPL now.
In terms of experience, maybe I can't say Arteta is more professional, because Arne Slot actually has more experience with several previous teams.
But the conclusion is that the most important thing is that we have to wait for at least a few matches to come and that's when we can judge which team deserves to lead the EPL.

Man United have made a big overhaul this season, and it has cost them quite a bit of money, but even so, they haven't been able to play well so far, and that's what's happening at the moment. However, I try to see their potential over a fairly long period of time because I feel that what Man United (Ten Hag) is working on doesn't seem like it can be achieved instantly.

A solid team usually has good chemistry and teamwork but, I don't think that can be achieved if the players don't know each other closely. The new players have never experienced the Premier League and they also come from different clubs (except De Ligt and Mazraoui), so I think they definitely need to adapt first.

I have similar thoughts to you, but I think Chelsea can surprise and push for the top of the list because they have a lot of potential. If the chemistry of the team is right, they can do well. I think Arsenal need a good striker to overtake Manchester City. Manchester City can only lose their position if they lose Pep. Brighton are a very good team but Liverpool have a great football culture. Liverpool can beat them or be favorites against them even in their worse season. I have no comment for Manchester United. I think they have to transfer an alien to the team... :)

With the current problem which the two clubs are having currently, they both won’t be able to make it to the top 4 because the two clubs have lots of things that they are supposed to fix, and it’s going to be a gradual process, not something they can just fix easily, so I don’t think both Manchester United and Chelsea will be able to make it to the top 4, and with Manchester United's current performance, I am even expecting them to end the season in the worst position and not expecting anything special from them this season.
 
I won’t just be surprised if I see Manchester United end the season in the middle of the table. With their current performance, I just have the feeling that that’s where they're going to end the season because their coach is not making any impact on the team.

Everybody has his or her own view and it's expected to respect everyone's opinion here but looking at your prediction of and how you're referring to Brighton as jokers, I think your knowledge about football is very limited. Aston Villa without doubt was the dark horse in the English Premier League last season but I think it's almost impossible for them to finish the current season in the top four considering the fact that they'll have to play in the UEFA Champions League competition. Three matches have been played so far in the English Premier League and I understand it'll be too early to predict the outcome of the league this season but I'm very confident that Brighton will finish the season in a better position that Aston Villa and Newcastle United

Manchester United has tried to return to its best form by bringing in several top players in the transfer market, but until now Ten Hag has not been able to make the Management and all the fans satisfied with Manchester United current performance. The poor results achieved at the start of this season have put Ten Hag under pressure, the 3-0 defeat to Liverpool was a particularly painful blow because it happened in front of his own supporters.

Picking up three points from three games is a big setback for a team like Manchester United, especially as they have just brought in several new players in the transfer market, the result has left United languishing in 14th place in the Premier League standings. The problems experienced in the last two years may reoccur this season, management must immediately find a solution to the current problems. A change of coach could provide new hope for Manchester United's development, several great coaches are still unemployed at the moment, management must immediately make a decision for a better future for the club.

Yes i see some clubs potentially to be the dark horse. These clubs are Manchester United and Westham. They look very underrated at this moment. But i think they will come with surprises at the end of season. Nobody is expecting anything from following their poor results at the early season.

But i think they must go through the long process to build the chemistry on their team.

It could be brighton but i doubt them to be such a team. It's true they have recorded very good results in the early games of Premier League. But i rarely saw them have good finishing at the end of the season. They looked like a very aggressive team at the start of the season. But, they were toothless at the end.

Brighton's manager was nominated for manager of the month. But, it doesn't convince me to pick them.

I agree with what you said. Though I’m surprised you put Arsenal ahead of Manchester City. I doubt they are going to do any better than they did last season. Arsenal have already drawn one game which is all City needs to win the league.

This is my list:

• Manchester City
• Arsenal
• Liverpool
• Chelsea
• Manchester United
• Tottenham Hotspur
• Aston Villa
• Brighton