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Donny van de Beek must be one of the biggest regrets for Manchester United by the way. Because they signed him for 39 million euros in 2020 but they sold him this month for only 500 thousand euros...  Sad

From now on, this team will really need to be more careful with their signings. Like I said, for now INEOS is doing a good job. Ugarte was on their radar but still not progress as far as I can see. PSG is about to make Joao Neves deal official soon. I think it should be easier to agree with PSG on Ugarte signing after that but let's see. I'm curious who else is going to leave the Red Devils this summer too. There are candidates but no action yet.

Well, it seems like Erik ten Hag really doesn't have a good choice when it about to buying and selling players because after all, Donny van de Beek also came from Ajax before and it's possible that Erik ten Hag brought him too at that time. But in reality, Donny van de Beek was also a loan player until he was actually sold at this moment to Girona after previously Donny van de Beek was loaned to Everton and Eintracht Frankfurt.

Thus, it seems like it would be better for Manchester United not to involve Erik ten Hag in plans to buy and sell players in this transfer market. Because after all, if Erik ten Hag is still fully involved in choosing the players who are bought and sold, then I think mistakes will still occur which will certainly be detrimental to the team.

If Manchester United actually wants to improve financially, the coach of Manchester United will have to think about bringing in other players instead of players from Ajax. I understand that he had a good success with Ajax team and he probably has a emotional connection with that club. But just choosing players from Ajax is not a good idea for Manchester United right now as this same idea has proved to fail Manchester United very recently under the same coach. The current financial situation of Manchester United is because of the failed transfer decision of the coach Ten hag. That is why Manchester United is having to sell players for such less money and for such a loss. and let me not get started about Antony. I also think that Manchester United actually spoil some players that they bring in. I don't know understand how a young player can get so arrogant in a club like Manchester United. of course this indicate to the Incompetence of the managerial job of Manchester United.

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Manchester United have always been a very big team, right now they have a very good team, I think they have enough material to be champions, even if they don't find more players I think they're doing great
I don’t really understand you, do you really mean Manchester United have a very good team right now? I don’t really think so, because if they have a very good team, then they won’t have ended last season in the position in which they ended it. I am sure it would have been in a better position. and I don’t thing with the players that Manchester United are having currently, they are going to perform well next season.
 
If Manchester City wants to perform well next season, then there are some things that are supposed to be done. If Manchester maintains their last season squad, then they are still going to disappoint most of their fans because they won’t be able to achieve anything serious by next season. Ten Hag really has lots to work on.
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Casemiro didn't do so well last season but, I do not think he should be amongst the names leaving Manchester United this season, he is a leader and I'd love to see him around until the season ends. Having him in the first team again would be no good idea, hopefully, they wrap up the deal for Manual Ugarte from Paris Saint Germany before the Premier League Competition kicks off.

Victor Lindelof can leave even for free, it seems like Jose Mourinho is doing everything possible to get him back together at Fenerbache.

Harry Maguire is no good example of a modern day defender, not even a typical Manchester United player. Imagine taking 190k for a fourth choice defender for a big club like Manchester United? I don't think Manchester United will have him around within the next two seasons truthfully. I don't know if he'll be on the move this season but we'll see.

Christian Eriksen has something to give but, you need a vibrant defensive midfielder behind him because he doesn't have the energy to track-back and defend balls.

Antony is a dead player but, oke last chance this season to revive his career. If the right offer comes in for Jadon Sancho, they should cash out. You'll be wondering if he'll be third choice winger behind, Antony, Marcus Rashford, Amad Diallo and then Garnacho next season.

Aaron Wan Bisakka and Scott MC Tominay also should be on the list but I don't know what's cooking. Erik needs a possession base squad, some players do not fit in for that.
It's high time Manchester United begin to make younger talents  their priorities over older ones like the likes of Casemiro who's major contribution to the team is more of Leadership than hardwork, Casemiro might be very experienced but he's becoming weak and could hardly fall back after a high press, the team needs a younger and quicker player, someone that would be very active on the pitch like Rodri and Manual Ugarte is the right man for that job, he'll make the work of a pairing with either Bruno Fernandes/Kobbie or Mason Mount more easier for them, so United should hasten with that deal or rather resign Soyan Amrabat. As for Lindelof, Eriksen and Maguire, I think their time is up at Manchester United, they need to be cleared, to make room for new signings and selling three of them especially would go a long way to sign one to two more players. Talking about Antony, he's a good player but in case he's not sold or loaned out, he should work on making sure he makes up for his mistakes in the previous season, many United fans, would be wishing they keep Sancho for another season but it's the boards decisions that matters mostly and they want to sacrifice the sale of Sancho to be able to afford new players. One player that would be really missed is Aaron Wan-Bissaka, He's one of the players fans love mostly and would wish he stays for another season, but then let's not forget that Erik Ten Hags tactics at Ajax require a right back that could perform very well in attack whereas Wan-Bissaka is more good in defence with few knowledge of attacking and crossing. Scott Mctominay is a good player but I'll prefer they sale him.
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What's Newcastle doing lately by the way? Weren't they bought buy rich people?  Huh  They aren't taking much action as for making big signings. Clubs managed by rich people always aim to build a strong squad normally.

They are at least good with selling players for good sums this summer. As far as I can see, they have made 76 million euros from Elliot Anderson and Minteh until now. As for signings, Lewis Hall and Odysseas Vlachodimos are the only names I see.

I know they aren't very successful so it is also a factor for big names not to lean towards a deal with them. But they can still attract many other skilled players with paying nice sums to improve the squad.

When Newcastle was owned by the rich man Mohammed bin Salman,  at least at the time of the statement that they would not  rush to make major changes to the team. Thus, it seems that this is really happening because eventhough Newcastle has good finances, but they also only buy players who I think are ordinary. If so, then ofcourse it will be difficult for Newcastle to be strong in the standings to have an achievements.

Because after all, if the team does not have a guarantee to be able to compete strongly in the title race, then ofcourse the team will have difficulty getting good quality players. With that,I also do not really understand what Mohammed bin Salman's concept is in owning Newcastle, because until now Newcastle has not made major changes to be able to make the team have above average quality.
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- Casemiro
- Lindelof
- Maguire
- Eriksen
- Antony
- Sancho

They are already looking for alternatives for these players. There isn't much time to go for next season to be underway so they had better make their plans efficiently.

Casemiro didn't do so well last season but, I do not think he should be amongst the names leaving Manchester United this season, he is a leader and I'd love to see him around until the season ends. Having him in the first team again would be no bad idea, hopefully, they wrap up the deal for Manual Ugarte from Paris Saint Germany before the Premier League Competition kicks off.

Victor Lindelof can leave even for free, it seems like Jose Mourinho is doing everything possible to get him back together at Fenerbache.

Harry Maguire is no good example of a modern day defender, not even a typical Manchester United player. Imagine taking 190k for a fourth choice defender for a big club like Manchester United? I don't think Manchester United will have him around within the next two seasons truthfully. I don't know if he'll be on the move this season but we'll see.

Christian Eriksen has something to give but, you need a vibrant defensive midfielder behind him because he doesn't have the energy to track-back and defend balls.

Antony is a dead player but, oke last chance this season to revive his career. If the right offer comes in for Jadon Sancho, they should cash out. You'll be wondering if he'll be third choice winger behind, Antony, Marcus Rashford, Amad Diallo and then Garnacho next season.

Aaron Wan Bisakka and Scott MC Tominay also should be on the list but I don't know what's cooking. Erik needs a possession base squad, some players do not fit in for that.
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What's Newcastle doing lately by the way? Weren't they bought buy rich people?  Huh  They aren't taking much action as for making big signings. Clubs managed by rich people always aim to build a strong squad normally.

They are at least good with selling players for good sums this summer. As far as I can see, they have made 76 million euros from Elliot Anderson and Minteh until now. As for signings, Lewis Hall and Odysseas Vlachodimos are the only names I see.

I know they aren't very successful so it is also a factor for big names not to lean towards a deal with them. But they can still attract many other skilled players with paying nice sums to improve the squad.
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Donny van de Beek must be one of the biggest regrets for Manchester United by the way. Because they signed him for 39 million euros in 2020 but they sold him this month for only 500 thousand euros...  Sad

From now on, this team will really need to be more careful with their signings. Like I said, for now INEOS is doing a good job. Ugarte was on their radar but still not progress as far as I can see. PSG is about to make Joao Neves deal official soon. I think it should be easier to agree with PSG on Ugarte signing after that but let's see. I'm curious who else is going to leave the Red Devils this summer too. There are candidates but no action yet.

There are simply no regrets in my own opinion and head. This is a huge lesson to learn from as they go into the future hoping for the best ahead. He is not the first happening this way and will not be the last happening this way. Manchester United signed players like Memphis Depay and Angel Di Maria and sold them for a much lesser fee than they bought them.

They should focus on getting things right. Who I blame all along would be the glazers, because if they had done better a d made investment back into the club, Manchester United wouldn't have been this poor over the past ten to eleven years.

Their biggest issue with incomings is that they need to sell players before they can buy. At the end of the day people will come out to say bullshit about Erik Ten Hag but they don't know how much improvements Manchester United squad need be. A while lotta players has to to leave the club for good.
Manchester United will possibly get Manual Ugarte if they Paris Saint Germans can get that you g lad from Benfica completely.

Manchester United have always been a very big team, right now they have a very good team, I think they have enough material to be champions, even if they don't find more players I think they're doing great, I don't know, I think the facilities, the money, are something that always limits, and even more so a team, a management, everything affects that, I don't know what the facilities are like, I only know that when CR7 left he said that the club hasn't changed at all since he came in the Ferguson era, and at this point I think they should do that, just look at Madrid, even the Santiago Bernabeu itself they turned into a great sacred temple, and of course it's because of money, money is what limits everything, I think they have to do something, a campaign, something to recover, and the team has to believe in it, to me the Red Devils have always seemed to be on another level.
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Erik ten Hag and INEOS are working together on this as far as I know. I appreciate that. There are more transfers to come for Manchester United probably by the way. Because meanwhile there are players targeted to be sold too:

- Casemiro
- Lindelof
- Maguire
- Eriksen
- Antony
- Sancho

They are already looking for alternatives for these players. There isn't much time to go for next season to be underway so they had better make their plans efficiently.
Lindelof was brought to Old Trafford many years ago but they will need to think of why they signed with Maguire, Eriksen, Casemiro and Antony. Casemiro was old when he was purchased by Manchester United two seasons ago. Maguire is not a too good central defender, Eriksen was old too. Antony is not a too good attacking player but Manchester United spent very big money to get him from Ajax Amsterdam.

Sancho case is acceptable because he played impressively in Dortmund and in one season, he came very near to stats of Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo. The transfer from Dortmund to Manchester United destroys his career and I feel very unexplainable why Sancho failed in Old Trafford.
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Arsenal proved that they will be strong candidates to compete for the premier league title next season if the performance shown by arsenal is really stable in the pre-season matches they are currently playing, and it is not impossible that arteta will present a trophy next season.
Arsenal are favorites after Manchester City. It have never been an easy road for Mikel Arteta, coming directly from Pep Guardiola staffs and doing the ultimate job by handling Arsenal, today they're included in the top rankings of the current seasons in English Premier League.  Arsenal have everything to win the English Premier League next season but what's stopping them is Manchester City. Gunners put in effort in previous matches but fail to beat Pep Guardiola and the Citizens to the full game.
Earlier in the Premier League competition, Manchester City, Manchester United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and some other teams were competing hard, but now the competition has become such that Manchester City is number one in the list of favorites and Arsenal is in second position. We have been seeing this for the past three seasons. 

Although Liverpool showed some promise last season, they ultimately failed to maintain their consistency. Manchester City has won the Premier League title in the last two matches but other teams have not been able to stop Manchester City from winning the title only Arsenal have competed with Manchester City in the last season. This season will be no exception as Manchester City favorites this season also do not see any other team who can beat Manchester City to win the Premier League title. That is, if there is a competition this season, then the competition will be between Manchester City and Arsenal.
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I don't see any reason why a coach should not be involved in the signing processes of a player because even when players are signed to the team, isn't it still the coach that will make decisions of who to feature in a game? As a matter of fact Eric Ten Haag made good improvements towards the end of last season so hopefully if he continues with that same spirit energy this new season, the team will go far this season.

Ten Haag isn't a bad coach irrespective of the fact that he started very poorly last season but he can make a difference this season considering the fact that he helped the team win a trophy last season so he should be fully involved in any decision the club want to make about signing of new players to the team.

I agree with that totally.  Smiley  A coach should definitely play a role in transfers made. But some big and rich teams don't allow their coaches be a big part of it I'm afraid. I think it is wrong as the coach will handle those players later.

Erik ten Hag and INEOS are working together on this as far as I know. I appreciate that. There are more transfers to come for Manchester United probably by the way. Because meanwhile there are players targeted to be sold too:

- Casemiro
- Lindelof
- Maguire
- Eriksen
- Antony
- Sancho

They are already looking for alternatives for these players. There isn't much time to go for next season to be underway so they had better make their plans efficiently.
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Arsenal proved that they will be strong candidates to compete for the premier league title next season if the performance shown by arsenal is really stable in the pre-season matches they are currently playing, and it is not impossible that arteta will present a trophy next season.
Arsenal are favorites after Manchester City. It have never been an easy road for Mikel Arteta, coming directly from Pep Guardiola staffs and doing the ultimate job by handling Arsenal, today they're included in the top rankings of the current seasons in English Premier League.  Arsenal have everything to win the English Premier League next season but what's stopping them is Manchester City. Gunners put in effort in previous matches but fail to beat Pep Guardiola and the Citizens to the full game.
Many have greater expectations for Arsenal because they have a pretty good performance in the last 2 seasons so it is quite natural that many people expect them to be a competitor for Manchester City in the coming season with their previous statistics which are quite good.

I also expect the same thing because honestly I am too bored to see Manchester City always become champions in the last few seasons even in the last 7 seasons that I have seen Manchester City only once displaced by Liverpool in the race for the trophy the rest they can always get a victory which is clearly disturbing even though it cannot be denied that the competition and the game in the EPL are still very good but still when the champions are only in the same club it seems a little boring to me.

But on the other hand we also can't expect too much because however with the conditions and problems that Arsenal have always faced in recent seasons we can definitely see that in the end their mental problems may have been good but not better than Manchester City until now.
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Thus, it seems like it would be better for Manchester United not to involve Erik ten Hag in plans to buy and sell players in this transfer market. Because after all, if Erik ten Hag is still fully involved in choosing the players who are bought and sold, then I think mistakes will still occur which will certainly be detrimental to the team.

The manager should always be involved with buying and selling of players as he's the only one that knows the players he can get the best out of them in the season and those that are not going to be useful to him. Giving managers your own players will not make it possible for him to be capable of coaching the team very well. The manager will always have players that he believes he can work with very well as they'll be listening to him and oykay for him therefore those are the players that he should be using to play almost every game and get the best result for the team. The board should allow the manager and not get involved.

I don't see any reason why a coach should not be involved in the signing processes of a player because even when players are signed to the team, isn't it still the coach that will make decisions of who to feature in a game? As a matter of fact Eric Ten Haag made good improvements towards the end of last season so hopefully if he continues with that same spirit energy this new season, the team will go far this season.

Ten Haag isn't a bad coach irrespective of the fact that he started very poorly last season but he can make a difference this season considering the fact that he helped the team win a trophy last season so he should be fully involved in any decision the club want to make about signing of new players to the team.
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Arsenal proved that they will be strong candidates to compete for the premier league title next season if the performance shown by arsenal is really stable in the pre-season matches they are currently playing, and it is not impossible that arteta will present a trophy next season.

I am intrigued by the performance the Arsenal guys put out there. They have shown their readiness this season for using their second 11 today. The performance of the squad was fairly penetrating and it showed a strong squad depth. I also liked their level of composure in managing the opponents to the end.

This is what we're talking about Arteta, he was good enough to test the second 11 comfortably and watch over their individual player performances. I will also encourage him to practice this more often to be able to pick stronger players that can substitute the first eleven players in bigger matches.
arteta fielded his second line in the first pre-season match he played, so far it's been good enough to test the young players and clearly many of the young players who were fielded have quite a lot of potential for the long term, they showed good performance on the field, yes the calmness that was displayed made us interested in the first match that arsenal played, and again the performance shown by the arsenal goalkeeper, I think arsenal has a good young goalkeeper.
yes it should be like that it would be better to give playing minutes to the young players and if the performance shown is consistent it is not impossible that in the premier league later there will be young players who are fielded.

and we will see in the second pre-season match that arsenal will play against manchester united on sunday which will be held at sofi stadium, california, this will be a more interesting match to test the mentality of arsenal's young players.
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I don't understand this deal at all. Fulham is really serious to pay 41 million euros for Smith Rowe?  Huh  I mean he is still young (23). However he hasn't played properly for two years. Doesn't this make them nervous?

Arteta didn't give him much chance in the time period I mentioned because of the arrival of Odegaard and Havertz of course. Otherwise I think he could have still played more than these statistics.



Considering his market value has dropped to 22 million euros in the meantime, it would be a spectacular sale for Arsenal taking the current offer into account.  Smiley  I hope he can improve his performance at Fulham too.
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Arsenal are favorites after Manchester City. It have never been an easy road for Mikel Arteta, coming directly from Pep Guardiola staffs and doing the ultimate job by handling Arsenal, today they're included in the top rankings of the current seasons in English Premier League.  Arsenal have everything to win the English Premier League next season but what's stopping them is Manchester City. Gunners put in effort in previous matches but fail to beat Pep Guardiola and the Citizens to the full game.

Gunners remains my favorite to win the Premier League Competition this season anyways, and you have to know that nothing good comes easy. Mikel Arteta no doubts has been solid for Arsenal. Had a rough and bumpy ride to this point during his first seasons in charge of Arsenal, but everything seems to add up gradually during his second and third as he has both been leapfrogged by Manchester City.

They had the ball around them in the spot kick, but they had a terrible kick which went wide last season. Much improvement and additions has not been seen. They need a goalscorer, a machine who can guarantee them 25 premier league competition goals and if they can do that, then peng. Right now I'm just being hopefull for them, but they would also need to sell Thomas Partey to get Fabian Ruiz.
If that works, then, they can boast of winning the Premier League Competition, since they have successfully cleared up the signatures expected for Calafiori from Bologna.

What stopped them last season was decision making from Mikel Arteta against Aston Villa and what else should I add to this statement?They did incredibly great but, t's what t's!
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Arsenal proved that they will be strong candidates to compete for the premier league title next season if the performance shown by arsenal is really stable in the pre-season matches they are currently playing, and it is not impossible that arteta will present a trophy next season.
Arsenal are favorites after Manchester City. It have never been an easy road for Mikel Arteta, coming directly from Pep Guardiola staffs and doing the ultimate job by handling Arsenal, today they're included in the top rankings of the current seasons in English Premier League.  Arsenal have everything to win the English Premier League next season but what's stopping them is Manchester City. Gunners put in effort in previous matches but fail to beat Pep Guardiola and the Citizens to the full game.

This season is the time for Arsenal to win trophies and all the players must give their all for the victory.
And a big test awaits in pre-season against United in the SoFi Stadium, It's a nice kickaround for Arsenal before they face Liverpool.
United won in the last preseason while Arsenal won them home and away in the league but I’m not worried whether Arsenal will win or lose, My focus is the main league and other competitions.
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Arsenal proved that they will be strong candidates to compete for the premier league title next season if the performance shown by arsenal is really stable in the pre-season matches they are currently playing, and it is not impossible that arteta will present a trophy next season.
Arsenal are favorites after Manchester City. It have never been an easy road for Mikel Arteta, coming directly from Pep Guardiola staffs and doing the ultimate job by handling Arsenal, today they're included in the top rankings of the current seasons in English Premier League.  Arsenal have everything to win the English Premier League next season but what's stopping them is Manchester City. Gunners put in effort in previous matches but fail to beat Pep Guardiola and the Citizens to the full game.
Next season the situation will definitely be the same as the last 2 seasons where Arsenal will try hard to stop Manchester City but again must fail because the club coached by Pep Guardiola is still very strong in the Premier League especially with a perfect squad, last season Manchester City was a little unbalanced at the beginning of the season because their squad was incomplete Kevin De Bruyne was injured for quite a long time even though this player is an important factor for the club to help his teammates in creating opportunities.

Well later Man City will certainly play with a complete squad from the beginning of the season so Arsenal will not easily beat Manchester City in the hunt for the EPL title unless Arsenal performs consistently without experiencing many defeats.
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Arsenal proved that they will be strong candidates to compete for the premier league title next season if the performance shown by arsenal is really stable in the pre-season matches they are currently playing, and it is not impossible that arteta will present a trophy next season.
Arsenal are favorites after Manchester City. It have never been an easy road for Mikel Arteta, coming directly from Pep Guardiola staffs and doing the ultimate job by handling Arsenal, today they're included in the top rankings of the current seasons in English Premier League.  Arsenal have everything to win the English Premier League next season but what's stopping them is Manchester City. Gunners put in effort in previous matches but fail to beat Pep Guardiola and the Citizens to the full game.

I feel Manchester City is just Arsenal's nightmare if not Arsenal would have won the premier league before now but will Pep Guardiola's men still give them the opportunity to win the premier league this new season? I just have this feelings that until Guardiola leaves Manchester City it will be difficult for Arsenal to win the premier league. Arsenal always takes their pre season games seriously in most seasons so am not surprised about their impressive display but what matters is real matches and not about friendly games. If they must win the title this new season, they need to work extra hard and stop this mentality of stopping half way when they are almost about to get a good gap in the league table. If same opportunity that Arsenal had two seasons ago comes up again and Arsenal is unable to utilize it this time around it will be difficult for them in the upcoming seasons because by then they must have killed their morale and enthusiasm.
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For me since Arsenal doesn't have any need in getting new ones they should as well keep there already existing players intact because if they make any wrong decision it will seriously affect there team work on this coming season, and besides there fans has a great expectation from them on this upcoming season so perhaps it will be very sad if they cannot perform more than or the way they did on this season. For sure Arsenal is having some challenges on their defense so if they allow William Saliba to leave the club without having a good replacement Arsenal defense will not be stable, however I wonder why real Madrid will decide to sign him since they already have more quality defenders.
Indeed. If Arsenal has no interest to sign many players, they must keep their current players. However, Arsenal is still rumored to target some players even if they are unlikely to sign many players. Fabian Ruiz, Mikel Merino, Gyokeres, and Nico Williams become the target of Arsenal to strengthen their squad. But for Nico Williams, he seems to choose Barcelona. Well, Arteta actually targets good players but I am not sure of Arsenal has enough money to sign those players. Unless they sold Saliba to Real Madrid, I am not sure Arteta can sign those players. Anyway, Arsenal already signs Calafiori, I think it is planned to replace Saliba if Saliba really moves to Real Madrid.

Related news:
- https://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/transfer-news/
- https://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/transfer-news/calafiori-gyokeres-transfer-ruiz-signs-29615227

I have actually noticed that from Gabriel Jesus because his performance is no longer the same as before and one thing that has been disturbing him is injury and considering the fact that strikers are mostly the heart of every team Arteta should be advised to make a good decision about that either to sign someone that can work better on the absence of Gabriel Jesus or he figure out a player within the club.
Yes, Gabriel Jesus's performance is decreasing a lot after he got injury for a long time. That's why Arsenal wants to sign Gyokeres, he can replace the position of Gabriel Jesus as the main striker. I think Kai Havertz is not a proper player to put on the striker position. Gyokeres is the right solution if Arsenal really succeeds to sign him. However, I don't know how big the chance to sign Gyokeres.  Undecided

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Donny van de Beek must be one of the biggest regrets for Manchester United by the way. Because they signed him for 39 million euros in 2020 but they sold him this month for only 500 thousand euros...  Sad


What a crazy price!!!. Manchester United is slowly copying Barcelona. They buy a player at a silly price, then sell him for pennies. It also saddens me how Ten Hag has ruined Van de Beek's career in Manchester United. It's also disappointed me how Ten Hag could not turn him around.

I thought he was a good buy at the time. Then, I spent two years expecting him to finally kick off at Manchester United. After that, I was surprised for two years. It was every time I read something about his existence at the club. It's bad to see how Van de Beek ended his career at United in such a dramatic way like this.

But, it's not that bad considering he is now moving to Girona. And five hundred thousand euros is a bargain price for Girona. In the end, this shows how Donny is simply not Manchester United quality.
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