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Believe me when I say this, people who go on to say these talks about Arsenal are pained Manchester United fans who can't be objective for real, jealous Chelsea fans and also Liverpool fans who do not want to see them winning the Premier League Competition. Any disagreement?

Are you an Arsenal fan? I guess Yes because this pain is second to none. You just hit the innocent teams with your stray bullet due to anger. Every one is entitled to have their preferred team to win the trophy. You can not expect less from Liverpool fans because they are contender for the title as well. As for Manchester united and Chelsea, I still believe they have set of fans rooting for Arsenal to win the trophy. Now to be honest, Arsenal is responsible for the hatred from some group of fans because they have disappointed them countless times. Imagine what happened last season and tell me if you are still comfortable supporting them to win the league title. The truth remains Arsenal doesn't keep the same energy when the league gets tensed. Let them prove everyone wrong that they can do it. Take a look at Messi and Ronaldo and see how they prove those criticizing wrong. When you are good, you are good for real. Arsenal should do the same and not attempting to silence people for no reason.
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I agree with you about Saka. He tried his best to get a penalty there by opening his right leg as wide as possible to get tackled. He could have actually just got past Neuer easily and scored the goal.  Sad
Saka should receive yellow card for diving.

Arsenal should be grateful they didn't lose that match because Bayern Munich would have scored 3 goals because Gabriel picks up the ball in penalty box https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HStHyBX5owQ

This is really unfair for Bayern Munich, since we already know the quality of both teams, I won't be surprised Bayern Munich will win the second leg.
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Can we let Ben White's case slide? How about Bukayo Saka? Shouldn't he have buried that game by sending that ball into the back of the net?
Lad was just a fucking clown who decided to joke with the fans amf stuff. Is this the definition of a world class player? Saka remains an ordinary player even if he thinks he is genius. That goal should have helped decided the game but opted for penalty when he had good means to earn the lead.

Sadly, but this is what I want from them, to win the Premier League Competition. They will definitely get knocked out of the Champions League Competition next week as they travel on to face Bayern Munich.
Sad to also see how they having the best defense flopped and had two goals conceded in the first half of the game.

They could still go on to win the Premier League Competition... Never Say Never!

I agree with you about Saka. He tried his best to get a penalty there by opening his right leg as wide as possible to get tackled. He could have actually just got past Neuer easily and scored the goal.  Sad

Making right momentary decisions is really crucial in football. I wish he did it better there. Anyway yes, I also want to expect them to say goodbye to the Champions League as I said. If you can't beat a wounded Bayern Munich home this season then you deserve to be out. As long as Arsenal finally win a Premier League title they will still be in great position. If not, they will be criticized once again for losing their grasp on it.

No matter what happens, I still admire Arteta's management and it wouldn't be bad at all to see him going back to Manchester City to replace Guardiola when it is time.  Smiley
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Manchester United were very successful in the plan they played against Liverpool. The plan they played against Liverpool in the next match may be that Manchester United will enter the field with the same plan and the result of that match may be in favor of Manchester United.
Thanks to Manchester United's hard work, of course the Arsenal and Manchester City fans were very happy to see it, Manchester United should have been able to win by three points, but they didn't look good at the end of the match so they did things they shouldn't have done, resulting in a foul which resulted in a penalty kick for Liverpool. This draw might make competition even tighter at the top of the standings with the three strongest clubs currently such as Arsenal, Manchester City and Liverpool.

It seems that the competition for the EPL this season is very interesting to see, there are still many important matches that they have to go through to be able to maintain and maintain their position, I cannot predict who will win the title this season, it is certain that it is a stronger team than the other two teams, I I think many people want Arsenal to win the title this season to make up for their mistakes last season, of course their goal is very strong to win the title this season so Arteta continues to work hard with all his team to continue on the winning path with good results until the end of the season .
Manchester United drew against Liverpool, Manchester United fans may have been temporarily happy, but Manchester United fans could not be completely happy with this team's performance. Manchester United has not been performing consistently for a long time and the team has not been able to win any title for several seasons, so the fans will be satisfied with the performance of this team when the team wins the English Premier League or any other league title. Since Manchester United has nothing else to do this season, Manchester United must focus fully on the English Premier League from next season. In the next season, Manchester United will have to focus fully on the English Premier League and try for consistent performance.
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After completing 31 matches, I put Arsenal in first place as the favorite team with the chance to win the EPL title this season. Their performance is truly extraordinary. Arsenal have played quite consistently and aggressively this season. They are the top scorers in the EPL this season. I think Arteta will not let go of this golden opportunity like the previous season. They lead the league in week 31. With 7 matches left, the strong opponents they have to face are Tottenham and Aston Villa. It's the same as Liverpool but if Liverpool play like they did against Manchester United I think Liverpool will struggle and potentially lose the title.

This are just prize to me, what you are saying that Arsenal has achieved, Liverpool and Manchester City has done the same, Liverpool is a bit fair since they were the ones at the top of the table all this while since they lose just 1 match and even now, they have lose just 2 but Manchester City lose 3 and was trying to catch up but their draw was much but they still try and now share almost the same point with Arsenal, just 1 points difference and you still think Arsenal will go and leave others when Manchester City have not given up, too soon in my opinion.

The way you have not given up on Arsenal is the same way I'm expecting good outcome for Manchester City and from the rest of the matches, they are good to go because those teams are going to be clear by Guardiola before the season comes to an end.
The three teams still have the same chance, no one has a bigger chance or vice versa and also because the three teams still have matches in different competitions where they also still have the chance to become champions, so that will also be burdensome for the three.
If you both favor Arsenal and Manchester City then I favor Liverpool even though to be honest they often appear quite doubtful at the start of the match, and often seem to have difficulty winning even though at the end of the match they can get out of the pressure well and get three points, and Manchester City looks like the team who are the most prepared for the current tight situation because they have proven successful in holding Real Madrid to a draw at Santiago Barnebue even though they only have a little time to rest, especially when they face Luton this week, and when they only use reserve players, City still has a big chance of getting three points even with a big score, so Liverpool will host Crystal Palace later, while Arsenal will probably experience quite tight resistent against Aston Villa and without being careful they could only get a draw.
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After completing 31 matches, I put Arsenal in first place as the favorite team with the chance to win the EPL title this season. Their performance is truly extraordinary. Arsenal have played quite consistently and aggressively this season. They are the top scorers in the EPL this season. I think Arteta will not let go of this golden opportunity like the previous season. They lead the league in week 31. With 7 matches left, the strong opponents they have to face are Tottenham and Aston Villa. It's the same as Liverpool but if Liverpool play like they did against Manchester United I think Liverpool will struggle and potentially lose the title.

This are just prize to me, what you are saying that Arsenal has achieved, Liverpool and Manchester City has done the same, Liverpool is a bit fair since they were the ones at the top of the table all this while since they lose just 1 match and even now, they have lose just 2 but Manchester City lose 3 and was trying to catch up but their draw was much but they still try and now share almost the same point with Arsenal, just 1 points difference and you still think Arsenal will go and leave others when Manchester City have not given up, too soon in my opinion.

The way you have not given up on Arsenal is the same way I'm expecting good outcome for Manchester City and from the rest of the matches, they are good to go because those teams are going to be clear by Guardiola before the season comes to an end.
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The point is that players must consistently have a winning mentality to win the EPL title this season. I think we can see that the competition is getting tighter with a very narrow point difference between the three clubs, Manchester City, Arsenal and Liverpool, of course we can't guess who will win. EPL title this season because it is possible that what is currently the favorite and is at the top of the standings may fail in several matches at the end of the season and ultimately fail like last season.

I don't know if Arsenal is ready enough to become EPL champions this season because last season they failed to win it and give Manchester City another chance to become champions and get the treble winner at once, I think Arteta seems to have learned from last season's mistakes and he seems to want to make amends This season, whether in the race for the EPL or UCL title, this season at least they seem hungry for victory to be able to continue to achieve their goal of winning the EPL and UCL titles, even though the competition is tight, if they have a winning mentality it will definitely be easy to overcome.
Yes Arsenal have really improved more than how they were last season that they lost the trophy by blowing up a long lead at the top of the table. It was really one bottling the fans found it hard to accept and as such, they’re all confident on them not repeating same errors this season.

 ⁠I fear Arsenal might not still be able to win the league because of the key fixtures they have against likes of Man United, Tottenham, Aston Villa and also Chelsea. Yes the attack line of Arsenal has been fierce and I understand how confident you’re on this Arsenal side, but you can’t overlook these teams as these teams are also in chase for European football.

 ⁠For Arsenal to be confident on winning the league then there need to be some points dropped by Liverpool and Man City, then only can Arsenal be a bit confident. The players mentality needs to remain top notch as they should keep taking every match like a final and always gun for victory.

 ⁠For their UCL hope, well I don’t think that will be a reality, rather they should focus more on the EPL as that’s easily achievable because the team isn’t yet up to the standard of the ucl. The epl can be easily gotten and the fans will love it rather than them losing out in all competitions.
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Arsenal are at the top of the standings right now, but strangely they are still not the favorites to win the trophy this season because of their bad experience in the previous season, and I think this is very natural because so far we have known Arsenal as a team that does not have a winning mentality, but for this season I think it will be difficult for us to eliminate them from the competition after everything they have shown throughout  season.

Arsenal's performance this season cannot be compared to last season. Arsenal team is stronger this season. Arteta has certainly learned from the mistakes he made last season. And Arsenal will not make the same mistake this season.

Arsenal's performance this season is good. Arsenal have drawn just one of their last 5 matches and won four. On the other hand, Liverpool and City have drawn two matches and won three. The performance of Arsenal's players is quite good in Champions League matches as well. So I consider Arsenal as the hot favorite for this year's Premier League title.
Arsenal's performance so far has been quite consistent and if they can maintain this consistency in the remaining 7 matches of course they have hope of ending their title drought so far, but I think that will be very difficult to do because Arsenal will still face Manchester United, Chelsea and their eternal rivals Tottenham, these three matches will of course be matches that make Arsenal lose their chance to win this season unless Manchester City and Liverpool also lose points in their remaining matches which are relatively easier, currently of course we still can't get rid of Arsenal are on the winning track, because they are still able to maintain their performance well.

Currently, Arsenal is able to maintain their positive trend in the last five matches, but in my opinion this cannot be a guarantee that Arsenal's journey will be very easy, off course I personally will not remove Arsenal from the championship path at this time, but to be honest, I am also pessimistic that Arsenal will be able to remain consistent in winning and be on the championship track when Arsenal have to face the teams I mentioned above, these three teams have the potential to become stumbling blocks for Arsenal this season and if Arsenal is able to get 9 points from that match, of course Arsenal will be able to win the Premier League this season, because apart from these three teams, it seems like there is not any team that is strong enough to beat Arsenal.
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Arsenal could have really won last night. If only they were better at finishing while they were 1-0 ahead... Ben White wasted a huge chance to make it 2-0 and later on we got a 2-2 draw.

I think Bayern Munich would finish the work at Allianz Arena. If Arsenal get eliminated from the Champions League they should just keep their head down on their work in the Premier League. This season they are definitely much better in the league. This great performance deserves the title to tell the truth. They have scored the most amount of goals and conceded the least.  Smiley

However while they have the most difficult fixture in comparison to Liverpool - Manchester City duo I have doubts about their being champions for now.  Sad

Can we let Ben White's case slide? How about Bukayo Saka? Shouldn't he have buried that game by sending that ball into the back of the net?
Lad was just a fucking clown who decided to joke with the fans amf stuff. Is this the definition of a world class player? Saka remains an ordinary player even if he thinks he is genius. That goal should have helped decided the game but opted for penalty when he had good means to earn the lead.

Sadly, but this is what I want from them, to win the Premier League Competition. They will definitely get knocked out of the Champions League Competition next week as they travel on to face Bayern Munich.
Sad to also see how they having the best defense flopped and had two goals conceded in the first half of the game.

They could still go on to win the Premier League Competition... Never Say Never!
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Arsenal are at the top of the standings right now, but strangely they are still not the favorites to win the trophy this season because of their bad experience in the previous season, and I think this is very natural because so far we have known Arsenal as a team that does not have a winning mentality, but for this season I think it will be difficult for us to eliminate them from the competition after everything they have shown throughout  season.

Arsenal's performance this season cannot be compared to last season. Arsenal team is stronger this season. Arteta has certainly learned from the mistakes he made last season. And Arsenal will not make the same mistake this season.

Arsenal's performance this season is good. Arsenal have drawn just one of their last 5 matches and won four. On the other hand, Liverpool and City have drawn two matches and won three. The performance of Arsenal's players is quite good in Champions League matches as well. So I consider Arsenal as the hot favorite for this year's Premier League title.
If you look at Arsenal this season, they have learned a lot from last season's failures, and Arteta is the person behind the success that occurred. Like it or not, the fact is that Arsenal is increasingly confident and continues to perform optimally. There is a kind of caution being carried out by Arsenal at the moment, because based on last season they are more aggressive and do not take into account preparations for matches that are not yet to be faced. Then the development of Arteta strategy, clearly last season and now there are many differences where last season Arteta strategy seemed to be copying what Pep Guarrdiola implemented. But now it's different and as a coach he is experimenting more with creating balance in each line in his own way.
Therefore as Arsenal continues to develop, the probability of winning a trophy will be higher. Last season it was only a race with Man City but now there is Liverpool so it creates more challenges.
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A tough game is on the horizon for Arsenal. They are going to host Aston Villa in four days and the odds are like below.



Of course bookmakers are highly favouring Arsenal home. It is totally normal however this is still a game in which Arsenal should play really carefully. Aston Villa are still having a decent season even though their recent form isn't that impressive. Emery beat Arteta once by 1-0 this season. Arteta will need to get his players prepared better this time. Considering how strong Arsenal have been in home games I don't feel like they will lose this. But I think it will be a close one like 1-0 or 2-1.  Smiley



It's obvious that Arsenal holds a bigger probability of winning the game compared to Aston villa. Villa is still performing so garbage, and it's not surprising me to see villa lose against Arsenal soon, considering Aston Villa is still at peak performance. The 1x2 odds is not convincing me to pick it. I'd rather than take asian handicap 1.25 rather than it which offers greater odds.
BTTS is likely a wise decision in this match, considering Aston Villa may be playing defensively against Villa and may only be relying upon the direct counterattack to beat Arsenal.

The chance owned by villa to take three or one point is still there as long as villa will be playing carefully against arsenal soon.
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A tough game is on the horizon for Arsenal. They are going to host Aston Villa in four days and the odds are like below.
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Aston Villa are doing pretty good this season, but they're not at the level of the top 3 clubs, hence Arsenal is a massive favourite here.
Arsenal will have home advantage and Villa is a team that tends to do much better in home games rather than in away ones: Points per game at home: 2.19 Vs. away of 1.56.
On top of that, Villa are playing 1st leg quarterfinal of Europa Conference League, meaning they will have one day less to rest. I don't expect any surprises here.
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A tough game is on the horizon for Arsenal. They are going to host Aston Villa in four days and the odds are like below.



Of course bookmakers are highly favouring Arsenal home. It is totally normal however this is still a game in which Arsenal should play really carefully. Aston Villa are still having a decent season even though their recent form isn't that impressive. Emery beat Arteta once by 1-0 this season. Arteta will need to get his players prepared better this time. Considering how strong Arsenal have been in home games I don't feel like they will lose this. But I think it will be a close one like 1-0 or 2-1.  Smiley
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Arsenal could have really won last night. If only they were better at finishing while they were 1-0 ahead... Ben White wasted a huge chance to make it 2-0 and later on we got a 2-2 draw.

I think Bayern Munich would finish the work at Allianz Arena. If Arsenal get eliminated from the Champions League they should just keep their head down on their work in the Premier League. This season they are definitely much better in the league. This great performance deserves the title to tell the truth. They have scored the most amount of goals and conceded the least.  Smiley

However while they have the most difficult fixture in comparison to Liverpool - Manchester City duo I have doubts about their being champions for now.  Sad

There is no doubt about Arsenal's performance, but it is still just how games usually happen sometimes. If not, I don’t also expect yesterday’s game to be a draw because Arsenal's present performance is in better form than that of Bayern Munich, but as the game happened, they actually went on a draw, but Arsenal can still act in the second leg because Bayern are not a team that needs to be relied on because they can also disappoint you, so I still have 65% hope in Arsenal because they are my favourite team to win the Champions League trophy. 

And I still have hope in them in the Premier League because they are still performing well enough to have a great achievement this season, but anything can happen because it is just a prediction. 
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Arsenal's performance this season cannot be compared to last season. Arsenal team is stronger this season. Arteta has certainly learned from the mistakes he made last season. And Arsenal will not make the same mistake this season.

Arsenal's performance this season is good. Arsenal have drawn just one of their last 5 matches and won four. On the other hand, Liverpool and City have drawn two matches and won three. The performance of Arsenal's players is quite good in Champions League matches as well. So I consider Arsenal as the hot favorite for this year's Premier League title.
After completing 31 matches, I put Arsenal in first place as the favorite team with the chance to win the EPL title this season. Their performance is truly extraordinary. Arsenal have played quite consistently and aggressively this season. They are the top scorers in the EPL this season. I think Arteta will not let go of this golden opportunity like the previous season. They lead the league in week 31. With 7 matches left, the strong opponents they have to face are Tottenham and Aston Villa. It's the same as Liverpool but if Liverpool play like they did against Manchester United I think Liverpool will struggle and potentially lose the title.
The point is that players must consistently have a winning mentality to win the EPL title this season. I think we can see that the competition is getting tighter with a very narrow point difference between the three clubs, Manchester City, Arsenal and Liverpool, of course we can't guess who will win. EPL title this season because it is possible that what is currently the favorite and is at the top of the standings may fail in several matches at the end of the season and ultimately fail like last season.

I don't know if Arsenal is ready enough to become EPL champions this season because last season they failed to win it and give Manchester City another chance to become champions and get the treble winner at once, I think Arteta seems to have learned from last season's mistakes and he seems to want to make amends This season, whether in the race for the EPL or UCL title, this season at least they seem hungry for victory to be able to continue to achieve their goal of winning the EPL and UCL titles, even though the competition is tight, if they have a winning mentality it will definitely be easy to overcome.
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Arsenal's performance this season cannot be compared to last season. Arsenal team is stronger this season. Arteta has certainly learned from the mistakes he made last season. And Arsenal will not make the same mistake this season.

Arsenal's performance this season is good. Arsenal have drawn just one of their last 5 matches and won four. On the other hand, Liverpool and City have drawn two matches and won three. The performance of Arsenal's players is quite good in Champions League matches as well. So I consider Arsenal as the hot favorite for this year's Premier League title.
After completing 31 matches, I put Arsenal in first place as the favorite team with the chance to win the EPL title this season. Their performance is truly extraordinary. Arsenal have played quite consistently and aggressively this season. They are the top scorers in the EPL this season. I think Arteta will not let go of this golden opportunity like the previous season. They lead the league in week 31. With 7 matches left, the strong opponents they have to face are Tottenham and Aston Villa. It's the same as Liverpool but if Liverpool play like they did against Manchester United I think Liverpool will struggle and potentially lose the title.
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Arsenal could have really won last night. If only they were better at finishing while they were 1-0 ahead... Ben White wasted a huge chance to make it 2-0 and later on we got a 2-2 draw.

I think Bayern Munich would finish the work at Allianz Arena. If Arsenal get eliminated from the Champions League they should just keep their head down on their work in the Premier League. This season they are definitely much better in the league. This great performance deserves the title to tell the truth. They have scored the most amount of goals and conceded the least.  Smiley

However while they have the most difficult fixture in comparison to Liverpool - Manchester City duo I have doubts about their being champions for now.  Sad
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Arsenal are at the top of the standings right now, but strangely they are still not the favorites to win the trophy this season because of their bad experience in the previous season, and I think this is very natural because so far we have known Arsenal as a team that does not have a winning mentality, but for this season I think it will be difficult for us to eliminate them from the competition after everything they have shown throughout  season.

Arsenal's performance this season cannot be compared to last season. Arsenal team is stronger this season. Arteta has certainly learned from the mistakes he made last season. And Arsenal will not make the same mistake this season.

Arsenal's performance this season is good. Arsenal have drawn just one of their last 5 matches and won four. On the other hand, Liverpool and City have drawn two matches and won three. The performance of Arsenal's players is quite good in Champions League matches as well. So I consider Arsenal as the hot favorite for this year's Premier League title.
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@Odoho, you have spoken well. In football it is a fact that we do not do without history, but in as much as history tends to repeat itself, at some certain points new history will be created thereby relegating the old history. We have all known that Arsenal does not possess the ability to win English Premier League. They have tried so many times even in the time of Arsene Wenger, they will be almost close to winning the title but in the 11th hour they will fail. Let us be hopeful that this season will be at different one. The only test I have to check Arsenal's ability to contest to the end of the English Premier League is tonight's Champions League against Bayern Munich. We know that Arsenal does not have a good record against Bayern Munich in the Champions League, if they eventually change the record tonight it therefore means they have chances to win the English Premier League.

Testing Arsenal against Bayern Munich in the Champions League Competition? That's not a good way to test them, do you just come to post to say whatever you like? I wonder why y'all talk with so much bias, dislike and hate.

Gunner's came so close towards winning the Premier League Competition last season, but sadly they couldn't because they lacked depth.
If it's in the Premier League Competition, before the likes of Chelsea, Manchester City and all other clubs apart from Manchester United and Liverpool started buzzing, Arsenal has always been top guns alongside Manchester United and Liverpool. If you talk about this in the European Competitions, you have my full support and backing but in the Premier League Competition?

Watch them win it against all Odds. So far in the Premier League Competition, they have the best defense and just as Sir Alex Ferguson would say, " Defense win you trophies, attack win you games " I need not say enough and when you talk about depth, they're solid more than they had from last season. Even Manchester City won the Premier League Competition but failed to win the Champions League Competition for over three to four seasons, go do your own checks with history.

Believe me when I say this, people who go on to say these talks about Arsenal are pained Manchester United fans who can't be objective for real, jealous Chelsea fans and also Liverpool fans who do not want to see them winning the Premier League Competition. Any disagreement?
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Liverpool have just bottled the Premier League in my own opinion, they have the chances of scoring goals at most from Darwin Nunez and Luiz Diaz. They should hav ended that game but they failed to do that.
That's to Bruno Fernandez and Kobbie Mainoo for that screamer, only that Wan Bisakka failed y calculate that ball very well. It almost like Manchester United will not even qualify for the Champions League Competition. They have been a miserable side.

But then, up in my head, I do not think that, that penalty call was worth it. These Premier League match officials are not doing them job well not even the Var. No atom of transparency when it gets to Manchester United.

The host of Arsenal fans backing Manchester United to win the game. Never cared for the support anyways.

Yes Liverpool did this to themselves by wasting a ton of chances in this game. What can Klopp do more in the end while the players aren't having a good day? Those goals outta nowhere really brought Manchester United around in the game. I don't know how Erik ten Hag is doing this especially against Liverpool.  Grin  He once again didn't lose somehow.

As for the penalty call I can also say it was debatable but there was a contact also. Elliott took the penalty really professionally by placing his foot there. Apart from that I really can't keep up with referee mistakes lately as they have started to do it very often.  Sad
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