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After beating Manchester City i thought they were starting to bounce back and would perform better against Bournemouth, however, i was wrong, Manchester United suffered a crushing defeat, plus another embarrassment was that the match was held at Manchester United own ground.
Many people expect Man United to maintain their winning streak after beating Man City, but Bournemouth is one of the teams that always makes things difficult for Man United when playing at Old Trafford. Bournemouth may not be considered a team capable of competing at the top, nor are they considered a "dark horse" team like Aston Villa, Tottenham and West Ham.
However, Bournemouth's performance this season is very impressive, Man United has just become a victim of their ferocity, the victory made them succeed in occupying 5th position with 28 points, even now they have succeeded in surpassing Man City in terms of points.

I must commend Bournemouth for wining united this weekend at the old Trafford but the truth is Bournemouth is not in the same class with united because this win for Bournemouth was only possible because of the form and situation that Manchester United finds it self. If not there wound be anything that united and Bournemouth will be in this kind of discussion but sincerely speaking Manchester United let a lot of hope's down by not consolidating on the win that they have over Manchester City the previous weekend than just to come and lose at home to Bournemouth of all teams
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After beating Manchester City i thought they were starting to bounce back and would perform better against Bournemouth, however, i was wrong, Manchester United suffered a crushing defeat, plus another embarrassment was that the match was held at Manchester United own ground.
Many people expect Man United to maintain their winning streak after beating Man City, but Bournemouth is one of the teams that always makes things difficult for Man United when playing at Old Trafford. Bournemouth may not be considered a team capable of competing at the top, nor are they considered a "dark horse" team like Aston Villa, Tottenham and West Ham.
However, Bournemouth's performance this season is very impressive, Man United has just become a victim of their ferocity, the victory made them succeed in occupying 5th position with 28 points, even now they have succeeded in surpassing Man City in terms of points.
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Chelsea could have won that game if they played the same in the second half. But things changed and Everton seemed to have it under control. Enzo Maresca could really look for this point loss while fighting for the league title.  Sad

Everton are really an interesting team though. They have had a hard time in the Premier League for years. But somehow they manage to steal points from top teams regularly. It happened with Arsenal as well previously you know. Do you think they will relegate this season? I feel like Sean Dyche will find a way to keep the team here. But a team like Everton should be targeting higher goals than only clinging to this league. I really miss their old times being a tough team.
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Is anyone else tempted to place a smallish bet on a draw on Man City vs. Everton? Or do we think Everton is so weak that Man City in crisis can still easily defeat them?
Statistically speaking, Everton has the highest draw rate in the league (44%) and, in their last two games, they stole some points from Chelsea and Arsenal, both games ended in goalless draws.
I had thoughts that it is possible to play on Everton with + handicap, but I decided to skip this match, despite the fact that City is terrible now, this cannot last forever and it must end someday. On the other hand, Everton can defend very well, so it is not excluded that they can dry up another match. I think that Chelsea should beat Fulham, after zeros with Everton they will definitely want to win, after the last round Liverpool was able to improve their positions again, they cannot allow them to break away even more.
I also think not to bet on this match after seeing the Everton vs Chelsea match, it must be admitted that Everton's defense is very good so in the match against Man City later there is a possibility that the Everton team will also show the same performance as the match against Chelsea and maybe even better.

Manchester City is currently very depressed, I have bet on them many times and think they will rise but a very long series of defeats makes me realize that it will be very difficult so in the match against Everton I don't think that Man City has a large percentage to win the match or draw, this is a fairly difficult match because everything is possible so I think it's better to bet on other Premier League matches, it's better to minimize the risk.
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Is anyone else tempted to place a smallish bet on a draw on Man City vs. Everton? Or do we think Everton is so weak that Man City in crisis can still easily defeat them?
Statistically speaking, Everton has the highest draw rate in the league (44%) and, in their last two games, they stole some points from Chelsea and Arsenal, both games ended in goalless draws.


I had thoughts that it is possible to play on Everton with + handicap, but I decided to skip this match, despite the fact that City is terrible now, this cannot last forever and it must end someday. On the other hand, Everton can defend very well, so it is not excluded that they can dry up another match. I think that Chelsea should beat Fulham, after zeros with Everton they will definitely want to win, after the last round Liverpool was able to improve their positions again, they cannot allow them to break away even more.
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The odds for all the games of round 18 (26th and 27th Dec), by Duelbits, are as follows:


Is anyone else tempted to place a smallish bet on a draw on Man City vs. Everton? Or do we think Everton is so weak that Man City in crisis can still easily defeat them?
Statistically speaking, Everton has the highest draw rate in the league (44%) and, in their last two games, they stole some points from Chelsea and Arsenal, both games ended in goalless draws.
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Mohammed Salah's performance for Liverpool this season have been outstanding but looking at the statistics, his contribution to the club in the last 9 league games is insanely ridiculous if you ask me. In the last English Premier League games, the Egyptian have been able to record 16 goals contributions.
Liverpool management needs to act fast and secure the future of Mohammed Salah or risk losing him for absolutely free in the summer when his contract with the club will expire.


Mohamed Salah's performance with Liverpool this season has been incredible, it's fantastic to see the player contribute a lot to the team this season. I didn't expect Salah to be this impressive this season based on his performance last season, I assumed that he had finished; we can't see the best of Moh Salah that we have seen in previous seasons. Salah scored 18 Premier League goals for Liverpool last season, but he has only scored 15 in 16 games this season. Salah is having an amazing season, and despite his age, he is still in a strong position to compete with other Premier League players under Arne Slot.

However, Liverpool's management has no choice but to offer Salah a new contract. I don't believe Liverpool is going to have a good left winger like Salah at this point, but if the management does not provide him with a new contract, the team is going to miss because another team will sign him and he will continue his incredible performances at another club. Moh Salah is a perfect match for Liverpool since Chiesa has yet to adjust to the team.
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Salah's performance this season is very good and he is currently the best player in the world right now, he has helped  Liverpool to win many games this season, Liverpool's game against Tottenham is very tough and every opponent that faces Tottenham knows how strong Tottenham is this season and Liverpool defeats them with 6 goals, Liverpool is ahead of all the Premier League team's with many points still have a match in hand which shows that they have the opportunity to win the League title this season.

Liverpool should extend Salah's contract because he deserves it, two year's contract will be very good for Salah and that will also make him happy and know that the team is happy with him, if Salah continues like this I believe another Premier League player goes to win Balloon Dior this season again and it will be a well-deserved award for Salah.
Yea you are right, no doubt Muhammad Salah is currently the best player in the premier league and possibly the world right now, his form and influence in this Liverpool team hasn't gone unnoticed because his numbers speaks volumes, and if he continues with this vien of form, am very much positive that with the influence of his present form, Liverpool can match to the title without stress and on that note, he will be very certain of lifting this year African best.

Then as for the ballon d'or, though it can be very difficult but if he can lead this Liverpool team to a premier league and champions league double then no doubt that he is actually going to be the most deserving player in the world for that award, so the most logical thing Liverpool needs to do right now is to extend his contract for at least three seasons, because I know that he still has a lot to offer this Liverpool team more than most people think.
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Bournemouth victory over Machester United at Old Trafford Stadium made Bournemouth ranking rise to the top 5, Machester United crushing defeat was enough to embarrass him, especially held at home, in front of thousands of fans, even though previously Machester United managed to beat Machester City with a score of 2-1.
Another defeat by Manchester United sent them further down. Manchester United should be getting better but they are getting weaker. In this match Manchester United has been defeated by 3 goals and Manchester United could not score a single goal and lose the match. That's enough for Manchester United that it should be enough shame for them to be weak. The opposing team put up a lot of pressure and scored 3 goals and won the match. Manchester City have also been beaten with difficulty as they have won the match by just one goal. Manchester United can improve their record because they have won enough matches in their record so they can be expected.
After beating Manchester City i thought they were starting to bounce back and would perform better against Bournemouth, however, i was wrong, Manchester United suffered a crushing defeat, plus another embarrassment was that the match was held at Manchester United own ground.
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Mohammed Salah's performance for Liverpool this season have been outstanding but looking at the statistics, his contribution to the club in the last 9 league games is insanely ridiculous if you ask me. In the last English Premier League games, the Egyptian have been able to record 16 goals contributions.
Liverpool management needs to act fast and secure the future of Mohammed Salah or risk losing him for absolutely free in the summer when his contract with the club will expire.


Salah's performance this season is very good and he is currently the best player in the world right now, he has helped  Liverpool to win many games this season, Liverpool's game against Tottenham is very tough and every opponent that faces Tottenham knows how strong Tottenham is this season and Liverpool defeats them with 6 goals, Liverpool is ahead of all the Premier League team's with many points still have a match in hand which shows that they have the opportunity to win the League title this season.

Liverpool should extend Salah's contract because he deserves it, two year's contract will be very good for Salah and that will also make him happy and know that the team is happy with him, if Salah continues like this I believe another Premier League player goes to win Balloon Dior this season again and it will be a well-deserved award for Salah.
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Another defeat by Manchester United sent them further down. Manchester United should be getting better but they are getting weaker. In this match Manchester United has been defeated by 3 goals and Manchester United could not score a single goal and lose the match. That's enough for Manchester United that it should be enough shame for them to be weak. The opposing team put up a lot of pressure and scored 3 goals and won the match. Manchester City have also been beaten with difficulty as they have won the match by just one goal. Manchester United can improve their record because they have won enough matches in their record so they can be expected.

Manchester United have a lot of story to tell of what they have been going through and they lost three zero against, and they are weaker than last season and they won't eventually do anything this season because conceding goals have been there amd out of five games they are only able to win three and there next game they will find it more hard to play, and there last game was a zero for them, and there defense and goal keeper is one of the reasons why they are finding it hard to balance there game so they will keep conceding till everything balances.

Manchester City ti have not been doing great and there hands are really tied and they are almost getting to same position with Manchester United and there game against Aston villa we expected what happened because last season they gave arsenal a very tough time, and with the conditions that the city were finding there self is only give more chance to there opponents. And who would have expected them to go this low in the premier league football can so humble.
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Yes. Liverpool are indeed unstoppable even though when they played against Tottenham they had a goal party and it was done at the opponent's home, Tottenham Hotspur Stadium. So this victory makes Liverpool even stronger at the top of the standings with 39 points. Yes, even Mo Salah has scored 18 goals and 14 assists in all competitions for Liverpool, this is extraordinary. Liverpool did show a surprising game, even though at the beginning of the season there were doubts because the coach was new and not many players had been brought in. If Liverpool manages to win the EPL title, it will certainly be a special debut for Arne Slot.
No one thought that the match would result in 9 goals, of course because I think both teams could play well. Liverpool conceded 3 goals, while Tottenham conceded 6 goals. It may seem unfair, but Liverpool are in good form this season. They have not been easy to stop until now and so far Liverpool have increasingly safely led the standings.

Liverpool will host Leicester in their next match, next against West Ham at the London Olympic Stadium. Both matches will be played during the remainder of December and there is a possibility of losing points to Liverpool. I'm not underestimating Leicester and West Ham in any way, for me it's the best way to not drop points for the rest of the year.
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Whatever Amorim is doing to Man United, it's not working out. But, in his defence, he has to play with what he inherited after Ten Hag. He probably will be allowed to do some shopping in the winter transfer window, but if there's no visible improvement after that, he might be in trouble.
It must be admitted that in this match, in terms of teamwork, Bournemouth was indeed better than Manchester United. Andoni Iraola's strategy was so special, that their victory was not a surprise. Meanwhile, the strategy implemented by Amorim in this match with fast play and high pressing did not work at all. The reason is, Bournemouth did not let Man United play with their ball possession. Amorim should have made a substitution for Maino but he replaced Ugarte, this was also a wrong decision. Btw all Man United players played below performance, I think Amorim should find another formation, maybe 4-3-3 can be tried.

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Impressive performance by Liverpool. Mo Salah is now the sole leader of the top Premier League scorers with 15 goals to his name, overtaking Man City's Haaland, who hasn't improved his 13-goal count in a while.
If Liverpool doesn't hit any longer period of season fatigue and underperformance, they're on the best way to win the league. And that would be a great debut for Arne Slot.
Yes. Liverpool are indeed unstoppable even though when they played against Tottenham they had a goal party and it was done at the opponent's home, Tottenham Hotspur Stadium. So this victory makes Liverpool even stronger at the top of the standings with 39 points. Yes, even Mo Salah has scored 18 goals and 14 assists in all competitions for Liverpool, this is extraordinary. Liverpool did show a surprising game, even though at the beginning of the season there were doubts because the coach was new and not many players had been brought in. If Liverpool manages to win the EPL title, it will certainly be a special debut for Arne Slot.
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Bournemouth victory over Machester United at Old Trafford Stadium made Bournemouth ranking rise to the top 5, Machester United crushing defeat was enough to embarrass him, especially held at home, in front of thousands of fans, even though previously Machester United managed to beat Machester City with a score of 2-1.
This is a form of inconsistency from a team that is seeking to return to its best performance. Even though Ruben Amorim managed to beat Manchester City, his players failed to win the next two matches in a row. Before being defeated by Bournemouth 0-3 at Old Trafford, Manchester United was first defeated by Tottenham in the EFL Cup with a score of 4-3. Manchester United's performance is still too weak to expect to win many wins, but they are starting to improve in several part.

Manchester United will travel to the Molineux Stadium to face Wolves for matchday 18. It is one of those matches that may be difficult to predict due to the poor results in their last two matches, but Manchester United remains the favourite.
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Whatever Amorim is doing to Man United, it's not working out. But, in his defence, he has to play with what he inherited after Ten Hag. He probably will be allowed to do some shopping in the winter transfer window, but if there's no visible improvement after that, he might be in trouble.

Impressive performance by Liverpool. Mo Salah is now the sole leader of the top Premier League scorers with 15 goals to his name, overtaking Man City's Haaland, who hasn't improved his 13-goal count in a while.
If Liverpool doesn't hit any longer period of season fatigue and underperformance, they're on the best way to win the league. And that would be a great debut for Arne Slot.

Amorim is just experimenting. He is trying to make his system work for Manchester United. But for that he will need to be quite patient also. Because for now he has to play with the squad Erik ten Hag has built. Amorim will need to be given not only time but also some good budget for new transfers. I feel that he will use the money more efficient than Erik ten Hag.  Grin  That guy spent hundreds of million dollars but the only success was FA Cup and EFL Cup trophies.

I have a big respect to Arne Slot's work as a Chelsea fan.  Smiley  Nobody knew him until he started his job. There were doubts naturally. But now we see a club playing for big trophies again like the PL and CL both.
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It's been confirmed earlier today that Manchester United attacking midfielder Mason Mount will be out for 8/10 weeks. His recent injury came few weeks after it he returned from an injury that sidelined him for more than 2 months. This is I think is a very difficult time for the England international and I hope he returns back stronger and better.
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Chelsea also failed to win today, they ended the match 0-0 against Everton.

I commented in this thread that this Chelsea vs Everton game was a trap for anyone who wanted to bet on Chelsea's victory, this is because Everton has been playing well at home, also in the last games in which Chelsea played at Everton's home they were unable to come out with good results and Everton managed to have a good result against Arsenal which was a game before this one against Chelsea. I'm glad I didn't bet on this game

Liverpool became even stronger with their big win at home to Tottenham with a score of 3-6. This was the biggest score of the week as there were 9 goals during the match.

I watched this game on TV and I confess that I am very impressed by the beautiful way Liverpool have played since Arne Slot arrived.



I also lost my bet on the Everton vs Chelsea match because obviously, I automatically picked Chelsea to win. In my judgment, Chelsea is in a good trend at the moment, so I think Chelsea will still manage to win despite playing away. But yes, even though Chelsea had good dominance in the match, Chelsea did not manage to score. But even so, at least Chelsea are still in second place, and that is still a good position for them this season. Because even though Liverpool and Chelsea have a four-point gap but anyway, Liverpool have just played 16 matches and Chelsea have played 17 matches. Thus, it is certainly difficult for Chelsea to overtake Liverpool.

After all, with Liverpool playing away but managed to beat Tottenham with a score of 3-6 it was clear, that Liverpool really had a very impressive form and trend this season. Successfully leading with a score of 1-3 at half time I think it is clear, that there is no chance for Tottenham who play at home to be able to turn things around. Sure enough, because in the second half Liverpool still managed to make three more goals, it was a very impressive result of course.

Liverpool was on fire yesterday as they hammered Tottenham Hotspur away from home it was the most ridiculous of scorelines as no one expected this kind of plenty goals from this game nine goals in one match is something that you don't get to see everyday, This Liverpool team seams to mean business as they have been on the top of the league table for a while now but nobody gave Liverpool any chance before the start of the league as there was a change in the management of the club
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The results of a surprising match today,

Man United vs Bournemouth 0-3
Bournemouth victory over Machester United at Old Trafford Stadium made Bournemouth ranking rise to the top 5, Machester United crushing defeat was enough to embarrass him, especially held at home, in front of thousands of fans, even though previously Machester United managed to beat Machester City with a score of 2-1.
Bournemouth seems to has taught manchester city how to get a win from Manchester United Grin.
Bournemouth performance this season has surprised us, how they are able to be compete betwen the big teams which have many star players in EPL standing,in the match, Bournemouth appeared very solid and took advantage of the weaknesses in the Manchester United defence very well.

For Manchester United, this defeat was a strong slap in the face for them especially after the failure to maintain the performance after the victory over Manchester City in the previous match, in my opinion, defence and consistency are still a big problem for Amorim squad at this time.
To be honest, I hope Red Devils fans do not lose hope in Amorim after he failed to increase the performance of the current Devils squad.
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Chelsea also failed to win today, they ended the match 0-0 against Everton.

I commented in this thread that this Chelsea vs Everton game was a trap for anyone who wanted to bet on Chelsea's victory, this is because Everton has been playing well at home, also in the last games in which Chelsea played at Everton's home they were unable to come out with good results and Everton managed to have a good result against Arsenal which was a game before this one against Chelsea. I'm glad I didn't bet on this game

Liverpool became even stronger with their big win at home to Tottenham with a score of 3-6. This was the biggest score of the week as there were 9 goals during the match.

I watched this game on TV and I confess that I am very impressed by the beautiful way Liverpool have played since Arne Slot arrived.



I also lost my bet on the Everton vs Chelsea match because obviously, I automatically picked Chelsea to win. In my judgment, Chelsea is in a good trend at the moment, so I think Chelsea will still manage to win despite playing away. But yes, even though Chelsea had good dominance in the match, Chelsea did not manage to score. But even so, at least Chelsea are still in second place, and that is still a good position for them this season. Because even though Liverpool and Chelsea have a four-point gap but anyway, Liverpool have just played 16 matches and Chelsea have played 17 matches. Thus, it is certainly difficult for Chelsea to overtake Liverpool.

After all, with Liverpool playing away but managed to beat Tottenham with a score of 3-6 it was clear, that Liverpool really had a very impressive form and trend this season. Successfully leading with a score of 1-3 at half time I think it is clear, that there is no chance for Tottenham who play at home to be able to turn things around. Sure enough, because in the second half Liverpool still managed to make three more goals, it was a very impressive result of course.
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The results of a surprising match today,

Man United vs Bournemouth 0-3
Bournemouth victory over Machester United at Old Trafford Stadium made Bournemouth ranking rise to the top 5, Machester United crushing defeat was enough to embarrass him, especially held at home, in front of thousands of fans, even though previously Machester United managed to beat Machester City with a score of 2-1.
Bournemouth full strength football team played very well against  Many United full strength football team. That was an easy match for the players of Bournemouth  . And they won the match by doing 3 goals in this match and  Man United teak could not do any goal in this match. Huijsen did first goal of the match and he did goal at 29 minutes of the match and after we were waiting from the side of   Man united team .  Second goal did by Kluivert and he did goal at 61 minutes of the match and he did goal at penalty and after second goal we saw third goal by  another player and now was the Semenyo and he did goal at 63 minutes of the match.Man United players need to work hard and if they will try then they could next match against Wolverhampton Wanderers team .
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