⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ - page 69.

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Quote from: KingsDen on December 26, 2024, 01:49:18 PM

It's a shame that every set piece against Manchester United, especially the corner kick now looks like penalty kick. When it happened last week that sun scored Manchester United from the corner kick, we thought that it is because Manchester United number one goalie was not on the post. But today Cunha of Wolves scored again directly from the corner kick. It is all over for Manchester United this season.
If Manchester United cannot win when they have 11 men on the pitch, is it when they have 10 men that they will be able to win. I pray that wolves should not disgrace them tonight. Let the go margin not be more than three

Manchester United conceded the exact same direct corner goal with different goalkeepers in a short time. But this isn't their only weakness this season. They are still not that great at defending and scoring goals both. Amorim has a really difficult job to do. This is the Premier League and he has a team to revive. The chairman will need to be really patient with him. Because he would like to build the team according to his system. This means he needs to be given enough money for that.

I think Amorim will handle this team after some time to climb some positions. But it looks really hard to make it to top 4. Sad

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Quote from: Woodie on December 26, 2024, 01:55:36 PM

These Manchester Clubs are currently behaving like twins, one loses their game earlier and the red one follows suit and let's not talk about the Fernandez red cars because as captain on a yellow cars he should have known better... from now on I will be picking this pair to lose or draw because that's what they do best!!

The Manchester duo has become a clown duo for now especially in the last two weeks after a series of bad results that have made them even further away from the word competition in the trophy race Cheesy

Honestly even though I have always avoided betting on both Manchster clubs in recent weeks but with the results they have had I still can't expect it to be this bad.

Manchester City with 13 matches and only 1 win, Manchester United with a situation that is not very favorable and many still have big expectations of Amorim in these conditions lol.
Not that I hate Amorim but we should open our eyes because in the end this situation can never change if in the end the game scheme every week remains the same especially with the silly mistakes of the players on the field which sometimes harm the club itself.

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Liverpool got scared and they were losing.
Shortly after they managed to score 2 goals and now they are winning.

This win if happens with another potential 3 point from the missing game will be critical.

They are right now at a potential +10 from the second in the leaderboard after 18 games, crazy.

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Quote from: Woodie on December 26, 2024, 01:55:36 PM

These Manchester Clubs are currently behaving like twins, one loses their game earlier and the red one follows suit and let's not talk about the Fernandez red cars because as captain on a yellow cars he should have known better... from now on I will be picking this pair to lose or draw because that's what they do best!!

As things stand, Manchester United chasing the game with a goal down against Wolves and Utd being the traveling team this is another "L" for the team.

I think we have gotten used to Manchester united but this whole losing and drawing is something Manchester city is new to and for reason it tend to be a spell because I really don't know what wrongs with the club as they can't really get off it. Of all games today they still can't win against Everton at home which is just too disappointing. As it stands now, it's definitely beginning to show off that maybe the new coach amorim is not caught off for the job.

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Quote from: Amphenomenon on December 26, 2024, 02:01:30 PM

I think while the management will likely support Ruben Amorim, they should also scrutinize the players he is going for especially in regarding to the transfer fee because Ten Hag got some liability to the team in a high fee which is bad for business and I think they will have to sell some players in order for him to get the ones he wants while many of these players will be sold at lost.

It’s not obvious that Manchester United’s problem is not the coach, but the players. If Manchester United doesn’t flush out their players, then there won’t be improvement in the club's performance, they will just keep on sacking their coaches. Current Manchester United players are just to lazy to play for the club, or maybe they having other problems which isn’t made public, that’s why they are not performing well. Seriously Ten Hag made some wrong signings, which is really affecting Manchester United currently. If United will be selling those players back, then they will be selling at a loss because their market value will have dropped, and I just hope Ruben Amorim won’t also be making the same mistake that Ten Hag made, because some fans are already complaining about him.

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Quote from: iBaba on December 26, 2024, 02:10:08 PM

No otherwise, I'm also in support of your opinion. I'm equally on the lookout for the players Amorim's likely to bring on board in the new transfer and I'm more concerned about the impact of those players vis-a-vis the financial implications to the club. I still Think Amorim is a better coach than Ten Hag in terms of managing the player's confidence in themselves as well as the connection between the players picking from how positive he's always even when they lost their games. Nonetheless, we need also monitor his professionalism in terms of bringing in new talented players to the team for a better result. It is no longer a news that Manchester United needs more new players on the pitch, but getting the team to work with is rhe real game changer for the club.

I like a proactive coach rather than a coach that will do the taking and wouldn't take any actions, ETH has all the time to make changes to most of this grade E players but he was going deaf on ears and instead the club excused him and drop him off immediately. If Amorim was in Manchester United half way the way he was assigned this season in the last season, I'm sure that half of the players in Manchester United will be gone because he is going to either not use them or sell them.

It's really disappointing that every match day, instead of Manchester united to go up, they are going down in the table, they were in the 13th place for 3 good weeks and now after losing to wolves, they are now in 14th probably after every other teams play their 18th matches, Manchester United will be fighting relegation because 15th place is not far again. It's really going to be a disgrace to the entire club if that happens, a big shame to watch.

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At least Wolves managed to get out of the relegation zone for the time being by beating Manchester United with a score of 2-0, and also this is Wolves' second win this season in the Premier League. Indeed, Manchester United played with only 10 players since the 47th minute, after Bruno Fernandes got a red card which really made Manchester United crumble in this boxing day match. Chelsea also lost at home against Fulham and also, Nottingham managed to win again by beating Tottenham 1-0 and making Nottingham return to third place at this time.

But with the results that happened, I might be very curious, whether Liverpool will also lose to Leicester or maybe, Liverpool will still win in this home match. Because anyway, based on the odds also that Liverpool are very, very favored to win in this boxing day match against Leicester. Because after all, Leicester is also still in a bad trend after the previous two matches Leicester lost with a very heavy score with a score of 3-0 by Wolves and 4-0 by Newcastle. With Leicester's bad trend like that, then I personally might also be very confident Liverpool will still manage to get a sure victory.

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Quote from: Woodie on December 26, 2024, 01:55:36 PM

These Manchester Clubs are currently behaving like twins, one loses their game earlier and the red one follows suit and let's not talk about the Fernandez red cars because as captain on a yellow cars he should have known better... from now on I will be picking this pair to lose or draw because that's what they do best!!

As things stand, Manchester United chasing the game with a goal down against Wolves and Utd being the traveling team this is another "L" for the team.

Even if Fernandes didn't get that red card, I don't think they could have won. Tongue

Because they were really poor in the 1st half. As of that incident they just turned it into a nightmare for themselves.

I can see how much Amorim and Guardiola both are struggling. Guardiola has a much more powerful squad in his hands but he is desperate anyway. It must be even more painful. Amorim is at least having difficulties with a squad which has quite big weaknesses.

Maybe Amorim could solve some of the serious issues with new transfers. But I think the solution isn't the same for Manchester City. It looks like the players are in a bad psychological state. Guardiola needs to improve their concentration in a way.

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Quote from: Woodie on December 26, 2024, 01:55:36 PM

These Manchester Clubs are currently behaving like twins, one loses their game earlier and the red one follows suit and let's not talk about the Fernandez red cars because as captain on a yellow cars he should have known better... from now on I will be picking this pair to lose or draw because that's what they do best!!

As things stand, Manchester United chasing the game with a goal down against Wolves and Utd being the traveling team this is another "L" for the team.

There are now two clowns in the premier league. Tongue

City drew against Everton, Pep could only get one point, this is the umpteenth bad result from them.
And in another match their city brothers, Man Utd, are one nil behind Wolves, which we know that Wolves are currently in the relegation zone, previously I was sure, Amorim had brought Man Utd a little better, but looking at the current results his ability to manage the team is still questionable.

These two teams seem to be competing to be the worst this season. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Amphenomenon on December 26, 2024, 02:01:30 PM

I think while the management will likely support Ruben Amorim, they should also scrutinize the players he is going for especially in regarding to the transfer fee because Ten Hag got some liability to the team in a high fee which is bad for business and I think they will have to sell some players in order for him to get the ones he wants while many of these players will be sold at lost.

No otherwise, I'm also in support of your opinion. I'm equally on the lookout for the players Amorim's likely to bring on board in the new transfer and I'm more concerned about the impact of those players vis-a-vis the financial implications to the club. I still Think Amorim is a better coach than Ten Hag in terms of managing the player's confidence in themselves as well as the connection between the players picking from how positive he's always even when they lost their games. Nonetheless, we need also monitor his professionalism in terms of bringing in new talented players to the team for a better result. It is no longer a news that Manchester United needs more new players on the pitch, but getting the team to work with is rhe real game changer for the club.

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Quote from: SmartCharpa on December 26, 2024, 06:17:00 AM

Quote from: Amphenomenon on December 25, 2024, 03:58:23 PM

Ten Hag did waste a alot of money, in trying to get the players he wanted, while some of these players failed to cone close to expectations. The players fees are often leading to criticism when they can perform well or are far from their best. Although, we hope Ruben Amorim can make good use of the resources given to him.

Ten Hags was allowed to recruit the players he needed, but he was unable to find any that would be able to help improve the team's performance. Of all the players Ten Hags brought to the squad, I am only happy with Ugarte, and aside from Zirkzee, no player irritates me. What a waste of money. I was even wondering about what Ten Hags was hoping to do when he was eager to bring Frank De Jong from Barcelona, a player who is known to suffer injuries. Manchester United will get better if the board agrees that Amorim should get the players he needs.

I think while the management will likely support Ruben Amorim, they should also scrutinize the players he is going for especially in regarding to the transfer fee because Ten Hag got some liability to the team in a high fee which is bad for business and I think they will have to sell some players in order for him to get the ones he wants while many of these players will be sold at lost.

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These Manchester Clubs are currently behaving like twins, one loses their game earlier and the red one follows suit and let's not talk about the Fernandez red cars because as captain on a yellow cars he should have known better... from now on I will be picking this pair to lose or draw because that's what they do best!!

As things stand, Manchester United chasing the game with a goal down against Wolves and Utd being the traveling team this is another "L" for the team.

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Quote from: Juse14 on December 26, 2024, 09:00:25 AM

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And now the match between Everton is underway, now the match has entered the second half, and for the time being the score is still 1-1. I hope Man City can score the winning goal, or at least hold Everton to a draw, a draw is better than having to experience another defeat

Another point loss by Manchester City. The nightmare continues... It is really unbelievable to see them having a this long bad streak honestly. They couldn't beat Everton as well today despite finding some decent chances to get ahead once again. Everton are also really good about stealing points from top teams of the Premier League though. But this still can't be an excuse for Manchester City of course. They are very bad and can't do anything about it obviously. Sad

Liverpool must be enjoying their results on one hand. Because Manchester City are normally the biggest threat for the title. Now they have to deal with Chelsea and Arsenal. For now I can say they have been really good at doing it. Today I expect them to beat Leicester too.

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Quote from: KingsDen on December 26, 2024, 12:30:02 PM

My eyes on Wolves Vs Manchester United match. Marcus Rashford is left out of the squad again, not even as a substitute. This is becoming serious.

It's a shame that every set piece against Manchester United, especially the corner kick now looks like penalty kick. When it happened last week that sun scored Manchester United from the corner kick, we thought that it is because Manchester United number one goalie was not on the post. But today Cunha of Wolves scored again directly from the corner kick. It is all over for Manchester United this season.
If Manchester United cannot win when they have 11 men on the pitch, is it when they have 10 men that they will be able to win. I pray that wolves should not disgrace them tonight. Let the go margin not be more than three

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Quote from: blomen on December 26, 2024, 09:36:04 AM

Manchester City - Everton

Early in the match, City scored a goal but conceded an unfortunate equalizer about 20 minutes later. Despite dominating the rest of the game, they couldn't score again, resulting in a 1-1 draw. A frustrating outcome for City fans. Drawing against 15th-place Everton is disappointing.

Savinho, Foden, and Bernardo Silva created plenty of chances, but Haaland struggled, missing opportunities, including a penalty. This could have been a winnable game. City's points buffer is depleting, and further drops may see them fall out of the top 10.

For Everton, this was a solid result against a faltering City. Their 0.62 xG yielding a goal justified the draw.

Manchester City now is going out of the box because the way their performance is going now is not something encouraging anymore; everyone is already disappointed in their performance already, so we all are waiting to see if they will be able to do something good for themselves because the way they are just losing 3 points is not making sense anymore. Please just take a look at how Haaland lost that penalty, which would have been a great chance for them to win this game. He just made them lose the opportunity of having a sure 3 points.

Talking about Everton, they will always be impressed and happy if their performance is good because no one was expecting they would make it to a draw with Manchester City, and they did, so they deserve to be happy no matter what, and I am not seeing their fault because they tried their best.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on December 26, 2024, 09:47:15 AM

Woah.
Once more time.
Manchester City today lost points again.
They were unable to beat everton, the game ended 1-1 even with extra "punishment" training days during Xmas.

Their situation however is not terrible, they may have lost the possibility of winning the league at this point but they are still in race for an easy top 4.

Everton has again become a nightmare for big teams in recent weeks, after successfully holding Arsenal and chelsea to a draw, and today their succeeded make Manchester City condition in the standings very worsening, the 1-1 draw has made Guardiola squad even more slumped and it is difficult to be able to return to being a title contender this season, so I think, the top 4 position or the UCL zone next season is a more realistic target for them to fight, although it will not be easy with their form and condition at this time, besides that, good form from Bournemouth, Newcastle and Fulham this season is also still possible for city to get out of the UCL zone at the end of the season later.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on December 26, 2024, 09:47:15 AM

Woah.
Once more time.
Manchester City today lost points again.
They were unable to beat everton, the game ended 1-1 even with extra "punishment" training days during Xmas.

Their situation however is not terrible, they may have lost the possibility of winning the league at this point but they are still in race for an easy top 4.

They have lost the chances of winning the title since
Nothing is easy for them to make top 4.
Punishment of extra training is not the solution to their woes.
We can conclude that it's a bad season for Manchester City.

My eyes on Wolves Vs Manchester United match. Marcus Rashford is left out of the squad again, not even as a substitute. This is becoming serious.

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Quote from: blomen on December 26, 2024, 09:36:04 AM

Manchester City - Everton

Early in the match, City scored a goal but conceded an unfortunate equalizer about 20 minutes later. Despite dominating the rest of the game, they couldn't score again, resulting in a 1-1 draw. A frustrating outcome for City fans. Drawing against 15th-place Everton is disappointing.

Savinho, Foden, and Bernardo Silva created plenty of chances, but Haaland struggled, missing opportunities, including a penalty. This could have been a winnable game. City's points buffer is depleting, and further drops may see them fall out of the top 10.

For Everton, this was a solid result against a faltering City. Their 0.62 xG yielding a goal justified the draw.

Lewis pure liability for City in any games. I don't like the way he played, and let Everton's player to be freely. They have to put him for sale in the winter transfer season. I don't see future for him in this squad. They have to cash in him asap.

It's hard to express how disappoint i'm see how Haaland did bottle job to his penalty, and i can't believe he failed to executed it. He's in his downfall now.

As for Everton, fair result, but they can't always get draw. They will miss too many points if they keep do perform like that. They have to farm points from bottom table club in the coming weeks.

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Woah.
Once more time.
Manchester City today lost points again.
They were unable to beat everton, the game ended 1-1 even with extra "punishment" training days during Xmas.

Their situation however is not terrible, they may have lost the possibility of winning the league at this point but they are still in race for an easy top 4.

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Manchester City - Everton

Early in the match, City scored a goal but conceded an unfortunate equalizer about 20 minutes later. Despite dominating the rest of the game, they couldn't score again, resulting in a 1-1 draw. A frustrating outcome for City fans. Drawing against 15th-place Everton is disappointing.

Savinho, Foden, and Bernardo Silva created plenty of chances, but Haaland struggled, missing opportunities, including a penalty. This could have been a winnable game. City's points buffer is depleting, and further drops may see them fall out of the top 10.

For Everton, this was a solid result against a faltering City. Their 0.62 xG yielding a goal justified the draw.

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