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For Manchester City, they are going through a challenging period both in the EPL and in the champions league, the absence of KDB and Rodri has really had a negative effect on their performance and they have fallen below expectation which to me the victory sporting had against them in the UCL was expected if we're to go by the loses they got in the EPL in their last two games.
Last season something like this also happened and it seems that for now there is still no option when Rodri and KDB cannot play at the same time.

But for the next week I think it could be better even though they will still lose Rodri for a long time but now KDB is back in the squad even though last season he was only on the bench.
Actually last season I think it was KDB that had to face series of injuries which had to affect his overall play quality of that season but City somehow managed to win the EPL title with just about two points difference above arsenal their main rival at that season. This time is both Rodri and KDB, and even if KDB is back he's not going to make much influence in the team as Rodrigo presence would. Age is already catching up with KDB.

This situation is something that always happens but Manchester City can always fix this quickly and of course Pep will not just sit back with the results that Manchester City have now because in the end there could be some changes to replace Rodri before he is completely healed in January for player transfers, even though there is Kovacic there but it can't help much so I think Pep will work harder in the second half of the season.
This time the tides may not eventually turn to their favour as it did last season because it's no more arsenal that are mainly in the top contender list but Liverpool has joined in the forefront race and that's where it gets much interesting and at same time daunting for Manchester City who has always come from behind to steal the trophy from arsenal just close to the end of season.
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Enzo Maresca is working hard to build a team that can genuinely compete for trophies, but it’s clear that this process will take time. Many of his players are still new, and creating the chemistry needed to execute Enzo Maresca's tactical approach doesn't happen overnight. Maresca’s attacking approach is a breath of fresh air to Chelsea. As he is improving Chelsea’s attack, developing the defense should also be a priority. In their recent game against Manchester United, Chelsea had the squad depth to secure a win but Manchester United were able to hold off the pressure from the visitors. Even if Chelsea had been sharper in their finishing, the outcome may have remained the same, as this particular fixture has historically produced more draws than any other in Premier League history.

Considering the fact that Enzo Maresca is just a new coach and how he is able to maintain the team to a considerate form now is applaudable of him because if we compare the performance of Chelsea this time last season and now, there's really a great improvement so i agree with you that Enzo needs more time before he can blend the team very well to the extent they will become consistent title contenders. He has really done great job in the forwards of Chelsea, but he should also extend the spirit to the defense area because that's one of the areas they are lacking capacity but with time Enzo can be able to make a solid team in Chelsea. Manchester united and Chelsea rivalry have always been very competitive right from time so if their both fixtures has produced more draws, it means both team's rivalry is so strong.
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Enzo Maresca is working hard to build a team that can genuinely compete for trophies, but it’s clear that this process will take time. Many of his players are still new, and creating the chemistry needed to execute Enzo Maresca's tactical approach doesn't happen overnight. Maresca’s attacking approach is a breath of fresh air to Chelsea. As he is improving Chelsea’s attack, developing the defense should also be a priority. In their recent game against Manchester United, Chelsea had the squad depth to secure a win but Manchester United were able to hold off the pressure from the visitors. Even if Chelsea had been sharper in their finishing, the outcome may have remained the same, as this particular fixture has historically produced more draws than any other in Premier League history.
It is not at all easy to build a team that is able to compete fiercely to win the title, all coaches definitely need time to do it. Not only Enzo Maresca, I think Pep Guardiola also didn't immediately succeed in the Premier League even though he had a good squad, he won it in the second season as far as I remember.

This season Chelsea seems to be improving compared to last season, but the season is still long and everything is not finished yet. Enzo Maresca has a lot of work that still needs to be improved for his team, of course one of which is improving its defensive system. So far Chelsea is still relatively weak in defense and Maresca needs to get focus to improve it to be better. Goal productivity is quite good compared to other top teams, but it also needs to be improved too.
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I was going to say rhat even if Chelsea played a very good game against Manchester united, defeating man united wouldn't be that easy since the games was hosted by Manchester united themselves and played at the old Trafford stadium, it's unlikely or rarely have I seen other clubs that come around to defeat Manchester united on their own soil and home.
Yea, the match against Manchester United was played well, the outcome of the match was as expected because despite the situation of Manchester United, I know they are good in big games and playing at Old Trafford was an advantage for them and they were able to hold the match to a draw which was good because Chelsea fans expected a trashing win over Manchester United because of their condition. However, it ended in a draw which is good for both of them.

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And commenting the new Chelsea coach, I can say that the man seems very good at his what he does, his job, Chelsea's game play have since improved ever since the new coach assumed his office and position as the boss to the team, though they aren't that consistent yet which is very much expected, I think Chelsea is beginning to prove their worth in the premier league.
Enzo Maresca has so far did a great job for Chelsea, he made the fans have hope on the team again since the new ownership of the club because the team was going down always and was losing its dignity in the world, but Maresca is here to change the narrative because so far Chelsea fans can be assured of Champions League or Europa League spot even if they didn’t win any title this season because Maresca looks like he will be among the title contenders in the next season of the Prwmier League just as Arne Slotnif Liverpool has started this season.
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His win against city yesterday was a great one, it was a perfect send off for Sporting and a good introduction into Manchester United. Hopefully things will change but will not happen immediately.

About Ruud, would want him to stay with the incoming manager,  he is a person who understands the club in and out and knows the best way to work head to head with the new coach. I'm not expecting nothing from them but hopefully things change gradually.  PAOK and Lester are games  they can win.

That was a perfect win for Amorin and a very good way to show Manchester United's board what he's made of. I see people asking if he could come with same energy to Manchester United and make the players their play like Sport Lisbons player, what I think is it Manchester United's player can't just suddenly become as good as Sporting all of a sudden, it would take time, patience and I want to add that  from both the board and fans plus hard and dedication from the players to play close to the way Sporting Lisbon players do let's not forget that most of these United players are lazy they're not putting more effort to deliver good results and that's something Amorin needs to figure out and show them the road if they're not willing to change and do better. As for Ruud working with Amorin in the near future, I can't wait to see that happen and I know there's better days ahead for Manchester United.
Ruben Amorim’s recent Champions League victory over Manchester City has indeed strengthened his reputation and made him a fan favorite among many Manchester United supporters. The fans are dying to see the positive change and stability Amorim could bring to the club. Manchester United have struggled with consistency under Erik Ten Hag, it’s high time they get to see their team play at the top level again.

Together, Amorim and Van Nistelrooy could form a coaching partnership that brings the best out of the current squad. As for their upcoming Europa League clash with PAOK, this is a match Manchester United should aim to win decisively. A strong performance here would further boost morale and confidence, building momentum that can carry them through the rest of the season.

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I think Enzo Maresca is settling in. It is taking time, but a new squad, a new management takes time. You can't compare Maresca to Arne Slot because what he is doing is just miraculous. No one expected that to happen.

Chelsea, if they somehow did better in terms of finishing, they could see a different ending to the match against United. They had the players they needed to win a match like that but gotta give credit to Man United for not letting Chelsea take the 50-50 chances. But if their finishing had a better day, Chelsea would have taken this match comfortably.
Enzo Maresca is working hard to build a team that can genuinely compete for trophies, but it’s clear that this process will take time. Many of his players are still new, and creating the chemistry needed to execute Enzo Maresca's tactical approach doesn't happen overnight. Maresca’s attacking approach is a breath of fresh air to Chelsea. As he is improving Chelsea’s attack, developing the defense should also be a priority. In their recent game against Manchester United, Chelsea had the squad depth to secure a win but Manchester United were able to hold off the pressure from the visitors. Even if Chelsea had been sharper in their finishing, the outcome may have remained the same, as this particular fixture has historically produced more draws than any other in Premier League history.
I was going to say rhat even if Chelsea played a very good game against Manchester united, defeating man united wouldn't be that easy since the games was hosted by Manchester united themselves and played at the old Trafford stadium, it's unlikely or rarely have I seen other clubs that come around to defeat Manchester united on their own soil and home.

And commenting the new Chelsea coach, I can say that the man seems very good at his what he does, his job, Chelsea's game play have since improved ever since the new coach assumed his office and position as the boss to the team, though they aren't that consistent yet which is very much expected, I think Chelsea is beginning to prove their worth in the premier league.
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I think Enzo Maresca is settling in. It is taking time, but a new squad, a new management takes time. You can't compare Maresca to Arne Slot because what he is doing is just miraculous. No one expected that to happen.

Chelsea, if they somehow did better in terms of finishing, they could see a different ending to the match against United. They had the players they needed to win a match like that but gotta give credit to Man United for not letting Chelsea take the 50-50 chances. But if their finishing had a better day, Chelsea would have taken this match comfortably.
Enzo Maresca is working hard to build a team that can genuinely compete for trophies, but it’s clear that this process will take time. Many of his players are still new, and creating the chemistry needed to execute Enzo Maresca's tactical approach doesn't happen overnight. Maresca’s attacking approach is a breath of fresh air to Chelsea. As he is improving Chelsea’s attack, developing the defense should also be a priority. In their recent game against Manchester United, Chelsea had the squad depth to secure a win but Manchester United were able to hold off the pressure from the visitors. Even if Chelsea had been sharper in their finishing, the outcome may have remained the same, as this particular fixture has historically produced more draws than any other in Premier League history.
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so I think if Fulham can maintain their performance and consistency like this of course not impossible if they can compete to end the season in the European zone later.
Looking at the results of Fulham appearance from 10 matches in the EPL, it looks more stable with 4 wins, 3 draws and 3 losses. That's much better than last season.
On the one hand, Fulham when facing other top teams can also provide resistance even though they end up losing but at least being able to provide resistance is proof that Fulham has a chance to end up in a position to get a European league ticket.
The problem is, there is a little badness that Fulham must fix, it's just a defense that often makes mistakes.
Fulham has shown significant development compared to last season, although they have been considered a mid-table team but it cannot be denied that they have often been a stumbling block for big teams over the years, even we can see how last season arsenal must to bury their dreams to be championship  after they were defeated by Fulham before the season was almost over 😂
 Grin,  the ability of mid-table teams like fulham in the english league has varied strengths in my opinion compared to other leagues in Europe so far and this shows how competitive the english league is, however, as you said, of course at the moment their defence is still a main weak  and we can see how the number of goals they create is not different from the concedes they experience, mistakes from at the back line can be very detrimental especially when they are ahead in a match which in the end makes them have to experience defeat at the end of that the match.
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This situation is something that always happens but Manchester City can always fix this quickly and of course Pep will not just sit back with the results that Manchester City have now because in the end there could be some changes to replace Rodri before he is completely healed in January for player transfers, even though there is Kovacic there but it can't help much so I think Pep will work harder in the second half of the season.
Yup, Pep will probably fix the situation asap. Manchester City faces a matter of urgency, their squad was very unequal because many players are injured. Manchester City was lost 3 matches in the row, and the substitution player also could not fill up the gap player. The humiliating defeat against Bournemouth makes Pep think to buy another player on winter windows transfer. If we'll see, they are not buying much another player on summer transfer which situation problem forced Pep to active on Windows transfer next. I don't know what his strategy to face Brighton on next week, because when I look how difficult him to choose an available player, I think that make manchester's performance is not good also, and most likely will play without confidence.
It does need to be done because if it is likened to a car at this time Manchester City is only like a good car but without a driver (in these last few matches) considering their squad is very luxurious but KDB and Rodri are always the driving force for the midfield where Rodri functioned as a versatile midfielder when defending and attacking and KDB functioned as a playmaker who made the flow of the ball in terms of passing quite comfortable at this time nothing makes the quality of their attacks become monotonous, and if we look at this condition it is almost the same as last season where Manchester City's performance was like now when KDB and Rodri were not in the squad.

Of course this must be considered because after all Rodri will now be absent for a very long time and KDB although good but his age is starting to age so inevitably rotation must be prepared from now on.
I think that even though KDB will return to play later because it is likely that next week she will be able to play after the holiday, still for January they still have to look for player options in this position that can mobilize when KDB and Rodri are not in the squad.
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This situation is something that always happens but Manchester City can always fix this quickly and of course Pep will not just sit back with the results that Manchester City have now because in the end there could be some changes to replace Rodri before he is completely healed in January for player transfers, even though there is Kovacic there but it can't help much so I think Pep will work harder in the second half of the season.
Manchester City have lost three consecutive games in all competitions for the first time since 2018. A crushing defeat in the UCL continued occurred at Sporting CP's home ground led by Ruben Amorim, Manchester United's new coach. The level of competition in the EPL might increase if Amorim is able to make Manchester United perform as well as when he led Sporting CP. Guardiola must immediately anticipate the negative results achieved by his team, currently they are also starting to lag behind Liverpool by 2 points, if this situation continues, Liverpool will be more comfortable sitting at the top of the standings.

As much as I was excited seeing Man City being cooked and at the same time Erling Haaland being humbled,  I'm not letting my guards high up,  I have seen the same shit happened to Erik ten Hag so I don't even want to expect nothing from him. One thing I'll say about Peps side is that his tactics is not effective without Rodri, who brings balance and cools down the pressure.  If they can get a replacement for Rodri, then they can thrive from January. Manchester United fans can wait to see him in the United colors.
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so I think if Fulham can maintain their performance and consistency like this of course not impossible if they can compete to end the season in the European zone later.
Looking at the results of Fulham appearance from 10 matches in the EPL, it looks more stable with 4 wins, 3 draws and 3 losses. That's much better than last season.
On the one hand, Fulham when facing other top teams can also provide resistance even though they end up losing but at least being able to provide resistance is proof that Fulham has a chance to end up in a position to get a European league ticket.
The problem is, there is a little badness that Fulham must fix, it's just a defense that often makes mistakes.
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This situation is something that always happens but Manchester City can always fix this quickly and of course Pep will not just sit back with the results that Manchester City have now because in the end there could be some changes to replace Rodri before he is completely healed in January for player transfers, even though there is Kovacic there but it can't help much so I think Pep will work harder in the second half of the season.
Manchester City have lost three consecutive games in all competitions for the first time since 2018. A crushing defeat in the UCL continued occurred at Sporting CP's home ground led by Ruben Amorim, Manchester United's new coach. The level of competition in the EPL might increase if Amorim is able to make Manchester United perform as well as when he led Sporting CP. Guardiola must immediately anticipate the negative results achieved by his team, currently they are also starting to lag behind Liverpool by 2 points, if this situation continues, Liverpool will be more comfortable sitting at the top of the standings.
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This situation is something that always happens but Manchester City can always fix this quickly and of course Pep will not just sit back with the results that Manchester City have now because in the end there could be some changes to replace Rodri before he is completely healed in January for player transfers, even though there is Kovacic there but it can't help much so I think Pep will work harder in the second half of the season.
Yup, Pep will probably fix the situation asap. Manchester City faces a matter of urgency, their squad was very unequal because many players are injured. Manchester City was lost 3 matches in the row, and the substitution player also could not fill up the gap player. The humiliating defeat against Bournemouth makes Pep think to buy another player on winter windows transfer. If we'll see, they are not buying much another player on summer transfer which situation problem forced Pep to active on Windows transfer next. I don't know what his strategy to face Brighton on next week, because when I look how difficult him to choose an available player, I think that make manchester's performance is not good also, and most likely will play without confidence.
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If Manchester United had played against Chelsea under Ten Hag then Manchester United would have been defeated in this match because if Ten Hag would not have adopted the same strategy that Manchester United played against Chelsea then Manchester United would have failed in one more match. In this match against Chelsea when Manchester United were awarded a penalty in the 70th minute and Manchester United were able to score from that penalty I thought it might be the match winning goal for them but it was not to be. Manchester United managed to score a goal in the 70th minute but 4 minutes later Manchester United conceded another goal and this was the last goal of the match resulting in a draw. Then I would say that Manchester United definitely did well in this match.

Manchester United again? I think you want to say Chelsea because Chelsea was the team that equalised a goal in 4 minutes after the penalty, not Manchester United again. 

Although those that watch the game will see that the strategy that the new coach of Manchester United used was a very good one, because they were having a very strong defence at the same time a good attack they really tried in the game, Chelsea tried their best to see that they were able to win the game, but it was somehow tough for them. Although if it were Erick Ten Hag, Chelsea will definitely win that game, no doubt. Moreover, the acting coach of Manchester United is trying for them even though we know he will just stay for some time, but I am sure they will achieve a lot from his stay.
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For Manchester City, they are going through a challenging period both in the EPL and in the champions league, the absence of KDB and Rodri has really had a negative effect on their performance and they have fallen below expectation which to me the victory sporting had against them in the UCL was expected if we're to go by the loses they got in the EPL in their last two games.
Last season something like this also happened and it seems that for now there is still no option when Rodri and KDB cannot play at the same time.

But for the next week I think it could be better even though they will still lose Rodri for a long time but now KDB is back in the squad even though last season he was only on the bench.

This situation is something that always happens but Manchester City can always fix this quickly and of course Pep will not just sit back with the results that Manchester City have now because in the end there could be some changes to replace Rodri before he is completely healed in January for player transfers, even though there is Kovacic there but it can't help much so I think Pep will work harder in the second half of the season.
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Apart from Nottingham Forest, Chelsea are also starting to show signs of revival, their performance has started to improve since being handled by Enzo Maresca. A change of teams finishing in the top four could happen this season, Arsenal are starting to fall out of the top four and they will face a big challenge in week 11 when they travel to Chelsea headquarters.
Nottingham Forest is the only club that’s surprising me most this season, their performance has been so good since the beginning of the season, they have lost just 1 match this season, and they are currently in 3rd position, which I don’t think anyone will expect a club like Nottingham Forest to be in. I just hope they will be able to maintain their good performance, at least they should be able to qualify for the Champions League.
 
Chelsea performance has improved this season, their performance is good this season compared with last season. I know there are still some lapses in Chelsea, some positions are still weak, but I am sure Enzo Maresca will work on those positions with time, and we know Chelsea are not fighting for the league title, they just want to qualify for the Champions League next season, and if they are really serious, then they should be able to achieve that.


Nottingham Forest has been in better shape this season since I started watching them when They defeated Liverpool with a one-goal difference, and they are doing well this season. They have a match against Newcastle this weekend, and the game will be tough, as both of them won their last matches. Newcastle defeated Arsenal, and Nottingham Forest won West Ham. So the game cannot be anticipated, although I believe Nottingham Forest will have more opportunities because they are playing at home.

Chelsea is not like last season anymore, they have got a good coach and purchase a better players in the team, and anything is good for Chelsea this season, if they can continue playing like this, they can probably achieve the trophy this season because even Liverpool meet Chelsea now, you can't say they will defeat Chelsea because they are in better shape too, it's just that Liverpool have more experienced players than them and they will stress Chelsea defend because And they have a tough game against Arsenal this weekend after playing in the conference league, and I am confident Noah will be an easy defeat for Chelsea. This weekend's game will be tough against Chelsea and arsenal.
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Great performance by Liverpool tonight. They destroyed Leverkusen 4-0 at Anfield.
We can't say the same about Man City, who, surprisingly, got a pretty bad beating from Sporting and returned home with a 4-1 loss
Liverpool gave a fine show against Leverkusen last night in the champions league. Slot would appreciate Jorgen Klopp for leaving him with a standard and decent team with which he just came in and continued building on that form  now Liverpool stands in number one position on the EPL table ahead of Manchester City and Arsenal. While in the champions league they have been getting great results both home and away games.

For Manchester City, they are going through a challenging period both in the EPL and in the champions league, the absence of KDB and Rodri has really had a negative effect on their performance and they have fallen below expectation which to me the victory sporting had against them in the UCL was expected if we're to go by the loses they got in the EPL in their last two games.
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Nottingham Forest is the only club that’s surprising me most this season, their performance has been so good since the beginning of the season, they have lost just 1 match this season, and they are currently in 3rd position, which I don’t think anyone will expect a club like Nottingham Forest to be in. I just hope they will be able to maintain their good performance, at least they should be able to qualify for the Champions League.
 
Chelsea performance has improved this season, their performance is good this season compared with last season. I know there are still some lapses in Chelsea, some positions are still weak, but I am sure Enzo Maresca will work on those positions with time, and we know Chelsea are not fighting for the league title, they just want to qualify for the Champions League next season, and if they are really serious, then they should be able to achieve that.


Nottingham forest are seriously the surprise package this season, they have been playing excellent this season and even went to Liverpool’s home which is regarded as a fortress for the Reds and defeated them there. Just like what you’re saying many fans doubted about Leicester winning the league then and where all saying it is just a temporary form until they went on to it, same was also said about Aston Villa last season and they made the top four and even among those topping the table at the moment

As for Chelsea the appointment of Enzo Maresca has been favourable to them because he has definitely change the Chelsea situation and we can clearly see that this team is actually left with just some few signings before we can say they can fight for the trophy
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Apart from Nottingham Forest, Chelsea are also starting to show signs of revival, their performance has started to improve since being handled by Enzo Maresca. A change of teams finishing in the top four could happen this season, Arsenal are starting to fall out of the top four and they will face a big challenge in week 11 when they travel to Chelsea headquarters.
Nottingham Forest is the only club that’s surprising me most this season, their performance has been so good since the beginning of the season, they have lost just 1 match this season, and they are currently in 3rd position, which I don’t think anyone will expect a club like Nottingham Forest to be in. I just hope they will be able to maintain their good performance, at least they should be able to qualify for the Champions League.
 
Chelsea performance has improved this season, their performance is good this season compared with last season. I know there are still some lapses in Chelsea, some positions are still weak, but I am sure Enzo Maresca will work on those positions with time, and we know Chelsea are not fighting for the league title, they just want to qualify for the Champions League next season, and if they are really serious, then they should be able to achieve that.
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It’s true that Nottingham Forest hasn’t reached 4th place in years. But I still believe that the Premier League remains the most competitive league in the world. I’m confident Liverpool will give Manchester City a very tough competition for this year’s title, they are in good form and currently lead the table by 2 points. Some people think Manchester City has made the EPL their own, but this year could be different. If any team other than City wins the league this seasons, it will encourage other teams to strive for greatness in the EPL in the coming years.
Honestly, this season has been a bit weird at the top and this is why people love premier league so much. While yes it is true that City usually dominates, there are still teams fighting for the very top spot almost every year, like City did win these titles, but in most of them either Liverpool or arsenal tried to win it too, but that is just at the very top. When you check, you will see that even the mid table teams are doing amazing, and there are almost always stories to tell about every team.

You can literally make a docu-series for each team of every season, it's that much amazing, there is never a boring time. Notts being third is a huge story, this team is not even that old in premier league, and yet they got good enough to peak at third place so far, maybe they will finish worse as expected, but they did peak at third place already. And United, who looked much worse than Chelsea all season long, got a tie there, which is a good result when you think how bad they have been all season long.

I'm also suprised with the premier leagues table, the performance of small teams are now threathing to those big team who have good record of wining the EPL title. i've always anticipated the premier league to be very competitive this season but this was beyond my prediction. i mean what the hell happend on saturday? Only liverpool managed to deafeat their opponent, man city and arsenal lost with a goal difference. lots of gamblers lost that day because we all assumed the matches to be a workover especially for Manchester city, but it all turned out disappointing.

Should I say the Premier League competition is not really competitive this season? How I should say it is not interesting, because I was thinking the competition will be a tough one as well, but I can say it turns out to be another thing because the teams that I’m not even expecting are the ones at the top now.

Manchester City and Arsenal are still behind some teams that were not strong last season, but that is, football is not always going as we think or predict. Manchester City are finding it difficult to be at the top this season, which is surprising, honestly. But let's continue watching; nobody knows if any of these teams will get their performance back again.
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