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Quote from: rendravolt on December 16, 2022, 08:56:00 PM

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Quote from: Joca97 on December 16, 2022, 05:39:20 PM

Liverpool is out of the title race,the bad start to the season costed them badly and now they can only hope that they reach the champions league group faze amd that is really intense. Arsenal and City will be battling the entire season for the title and only them

Liverpool are still in the top five and in my opinion there is still hope for them to return to the top position, even though it is hard to do at least Liverpool must try their best to restore their achievements and provide fresh air for the fans who provide full support for them.

It seems that Liverpool are really in good form, last night they just had a friendly match against AC milan and Liverpool managed to win with a score of 4-1. Good work for Darwin Nunez who this time managed to score 2 goals against AC Milan. It seems that after returning from Qatar the Liverpool players have found their best game and I hope that they will also prove their appearance when the English Premier League starts again. Even though this was only a friendly match against AC Milan it should be quite difficult for them and Liverpool managed to meet the goal requirement.

Unfortunately, the 2022 Dubai Super Cup title already belongs to Arsenal.
Yes Liverpool played very well against AC Milan and also dominated the game until the end of the match, and hopefully keep it consistent for Loverpool when it comes back to EPL and UCL too.
and the competition in the EPL is very fierce, even though Liverpool's best game has returned but it still makes it difficult for Liverpool to lead the standings, maybe the ultimate goal in the EPL is to be in the top four.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 16, 2022, 06:07:56 PM

Liverpool have just made things much more difficult for themselves by starting the season very badly. Even Newcastle have a bigger probability for the league title now. Liverpool's target is not to win the league title anyway from now on. They just want to recover as soon as possible and have a decent performance in the rest of the season.

They are full of skilled and talented players now. Mane's absence was bad at first but Diaz's coming here has changed many things for the team. If it weren't for Diaz's high effort maybe their placement in the standings would have been even worse. He has been injured for a long time but he is expected to return by the end of the year.

Diaz abilities kept them on board but later on Salah stepped up his game
It does look like they will start same way again after the world Cup
Must have heard of the injury with Diaz again slow intensity football

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Quote from: Joca97 on December 16, 2022, 05:39:20 PM

Liverpool is out of the title race,the bad start to the season costed them badly and now they can only hope that they reach the champions league group faze amd that is really intense. Arsenal and City will be battling the entire season for the title and only them

Liverpool are still in the top five and in my opinion there is still hope for them to return to the top position, even though it is hard to do at least Liverpool must try their best to restore their achievements and provide fresh air for the fans who provide full support for them.

It seems that Liverpool are really in good form, last night they just had a friendly match against AC milan and Liverpool managed to win with a score of 4-1. Good work for Darwin Nunez who this time managed to score 2 goals against AC Milan. It seems that after returning from Qatar the Liverpool players have found their best game and I hope that they will also prove their appearance when the English Premier League starts again. Even though this was only a friendly match against AC Milan it should be quite difficult for them and Liverpool managed to meet the goal requirement.

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Quote from: nurilham on December 16, 2022, 06:53:40 PM

Agree. Liverpool seems hard to compete for the title with the current points. It is too far from Arsenal in the first place. Liverpool also still can't play consistently and win 3 points in every match. There is a significant change in Liverpool performance this season. So, we cannot expect Liverpool to play as well as the last season. I also think that UCL zone is the most possible goal for Liverpool. But it won't be easy too since they must compete with Tottenham and Man United.

You are right that only Arsenal and Man City compete for the title this season. Although Arsenal is leading with 5 points, Man City isn't a typical club that is easy to stop struggling. They must try all out to overtake Arsenal, Arsenal isn't safe yet.

Started with poor performance in this season, Liverpool chance with Primer League tittle seems hard after remaining 15 points left from Arsenal leaded standing position awhile. No doubt with Primer League left many matches but Liverpool performance still inconsistency and I don't sure can exist and compete in Primer League tittle race with Arsenal and Manchester City.

Reaching to UEFA Champion League Zone standing seems possible for Liverpool because left 5 points from Tottenham Hotspur at 4th placed right now, but Liverpool still have one match left than Spur have played 15 matches. Arsenal and Manchester City are strong candidate team with Primer League tittle until matchday 15, if have consistency performance I believe with Arsenal opportunity can exist in the top standing position.

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Quote from: Joca97 on December 16, 2022, 05:39:20 PM

Liverpool is out of the title race,the bad start to the season costed them badly and now they can only hope that they reach the champions league group faze amd that is really intense. Arsenal and City will be battling the entire season for the title and only them

Agree. Liverpool seems hard to compete for the title with the current points. It is too far from Arsenal in the first place. Liverpool also still can't play consistently and win 3 points in every match. There is a significant change in Liverpool performance this season. So, we cannot expect Liverpool to play as well as the last season. I also think that UCL zone is the most possible goal for Liverpool. But it won't be easy too since they must compete with Tottenham and Man United.

You are right that only Arsenal and Man City compete for the title this season. Although Arsenal is leading with 5 points, Man City isn't a typical club that is easy to stop struggling. They must try all out to overtake Arsenal, Arsenal isn't safe yet.

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Quote from: Joca97 on December 16, 2022, 05:39:20 PM

Nah
Liverpool is out of the title race,the bad start to the season costed them badly and now they can only hope that they reach the champions league group faze amd that is really intense. Arsenal and City will be battling the entire season for the title and only them

Nah.. liverpool was not able to compete with another team for the title. Liverpool must compete for the top 4. The gap with the first place is too big. I meant look at what happened with the liverpool. Some players got injured and it was not doing so well.
I guess that finishing at the top 4 will be enough for liverpool caused by securing the spot for champion league is very important at this moment. The current squad has no chance to compete with another big club in the current EPL.

Not too big if newcastle falls and arsenal slipped slowly.

Manchester city statistically the one who stable enough to consider to finish top 2 every single season , i expect the unexpected honestly to see newcastle become the most serious title contender along with arsenal and manchester city , i wish newcastle could keep that up or else once slipped then the club below the likes liverpool will easily take it over.

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Quote from: CageMabok on December 16, 2022, 05:21:18 PM

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Maybe for this season Klopp has raised the white flag to chase the top position. Currently the Reds are quite far from the top of the standings. In my opinion, the most realistic thing for Liverpool is to improve their playing system which had fallen down and then chase the top four positions. The season is still very long, in the second half there will be many changes to the standings table.

Giving up before the season ends is actually not very good for anyone, including Liverpool this season. Because Liverpool need to try with various systems and strategies to get a better position, even though it looks very unlikely to win the first position, but for the top three and top four positions as you said I think it is still very possible for Liverpool to achieve it. It's just that this season there are more strong teams in the top three and four areas of the temporary standings so this is a little tougher for Liverpool.

But in this case it makes quite a lot of sense, especially with their current condition. Instead of saying they gave up, I would rather say they are quite aware of the current conditions because in any case it is very difficult to catch up if you want to compete for the championship. but of course they can still be in the champions zone and I'm pretty sure the competition is there.

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Quote from: Joca97 on December 16, 2022, 05:39:20 PM

Liverpool is out of the title race,the bad start to the season costed them badly and now they can only hope that they reach the champions league group faze amd that is really intense. Arsenal and City will be battling the entire season for the title and only them

Liverpool are still in the top five and in my opinion there is still hope for them to return to the top position, even though it is hard to do at least Liverpool must try their best to restore their achievements and provide fresh air for the fans who provide full support for them.

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Quote from: Joca97 on December 16, 2022, 05:39:20 PM

Nah
Liverpool is out of the title race,the bad start to the season costed them badly and now they can only hope that they reach the champions league group faze amd that is really intense. Arsenal and City will be battling the entire season for the title and only them

Nah.. liverpool was not able to compete with another team for the title. Liverpool must compete for the top 4. The gap with the first place is too big. I meant look at what happened with the liverpool. Some players got injured and it was not doing so well.
I guess that finishing at the top 4 will be enough for liverpool caused by securing the spot for champion league is very important at this moment. The current squad has no chance to compete with another big club in the current EPL.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 16, 2022, 06:07:56 PM

Liverpool have just made things much more difficult for themselves by starting the season very badly. Even Newcastle have a bigger probability for the league title now. Liverpool's target is not to win the league title anyway from now on. They just want to recover as soon as possible and have a decent performance in the rest of the season.

They are full of skilled and talented players now. Mane's absence was bad at first but Diaz's coming here has changed many things for the team. If it weren't for Diaz's high effort maybe their placement in the standings would have been even worse. He has been injured for a long time but he is expected to return by the end of the year.

Diaz will not return before Mars 2023 which is a bad news for Liverpool since he was operated in the knee.. Nevertheless, it is unclear if a player could get back his full performance after a knee surgery. Most players fail to Undecided

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 16, 2022, 06:07:56 PM

Liverpool have just made things much more difficult for themselves by starting the season very badly. Even Newcastle have a bigger probability for the league title now. Liverpool's target is not to win the league title anyway from now on. They just want to recover as soon as possible and have a decent performance in the rest of the season.

They are full of skilled and talented players now. Mane's absence was bad at first but Diaz's coming here has changed many things for the team. If it weren't for Diaz's high effort maybe their placement in the standings would have been even worse. He has been injured for a long time but he is expected to return by the end of the year.

the performance of Liverpool and Newcastle seems to be inversely proportional. Last season Newcastle finished mid-table. but now they are doing well since the start of the season. Unlike Liverpool, which suffered a setback after the transfer market was over.
if Liverpool makes good purchases this winter, maybe it could change its position on the table. to at least get into the top 4. there is still a big chance for that.

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Quote from: izsara on December 16, 2022, 05:59:27 PM

Quote from: Zilon on December 16, 2022, 05:32:47 PM

Liverpool is only 15 points away from the table-top. The Premier League hasn't gone half way. The maximum game played is only 15 matches, so Klopp has more than enough time to get to the top. If Klopp can ignore the top and aim towards claiming it, there is more than enough time to get it actualized. For me the season is very young and anything is still achievable, including winning the league from 6th position standing.

For other leagues like Serie A where sometimes almost all clubs always experience inconsistency problems, maybe I would think this point can still be caught. but this is the EPL where strong competition always occurs and the consistency of the several clubs there is always maintained and I am quite doubtful about the possibility that Liverpool can overtake 1st place in the end. For the top 4, maybe you can, but the rest, like fighting for the title, is clearly very difficult.

The premiere league is not like other league that clubs sometimes look away from but since it concerned England, am sure there will be more to the present condition of some of the clubs, I am of the view that, when the premiere league return from the world cup break, there will be a lot of changes both in players formation and style of play and clubs like Liverpool will still make their way up even if not top most top but at least among the top 5 clubs.
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Liverpool have just made things much more difficult for themselves by starting the season very badly. Even Newcastle have a bigger probability for the league title now. Liverpool's target is not to win the league title anyway from now on. They just want to recover as soon as possible and have a decent performance in the rest of the season.

They are full of skilled and talented players now. Mane's absence was bad at first but Diaz's coming here has changed many things for the team. If it weren't for Diaz's high effort maybe their placement in the standings would have been even worse. He has been injured for a long time but he is expected to return by the end of the year.

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Quote from: izsara on December 16, 2022, 05:59:27 PM

Quote from: Zilon on December 16, 2022, 05:32:47 PM

Liverpool is only 15 points away from the table-top. The Premier League hasn't gone half way. The maximum game played is only 15 matches, so Klopp has more than enough time to get to the top. If Klopp can ignore the top and aim towards claiming it, there is more than enough time to get it actualized. For me the season is very young and anything is still achievable, including winning the league from 6th position standing.

For other leagues like Serie A where sometimes almost all clubs always experience inconsistency problems, maybe I would think this point can still be caught. but this is the EPL where strong competition always occurs and the consistency of the several clubs there is always maintained and I am quite doubtful about the possibility that Liverpool can overtake 1st place in the end. For the top 4, maybe you can, but the rest, like fighting for the title, is clearly very difficult.

True, with the actual EPL conditions this is a very big difference, and if we look at last season alone for the top two clubs in this case Manchester City they only lost 3 times during the season and Liverpool only lost 2 so with the difference now (15 points ) means a team that is at the top has to lose 5 times and Liverpool win when they lose 5 also to get the same thing, of course this is very difficult to do because I think this season the number of defeats for Manchester City can still be counted by one hand.

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Quote from: Zilon on December 16, 2022, 05:32:47 PM

Liverpool is only 15 points away from the table-top. The Premier League hasn't gone half way. The maximum game played is only 15 matches, so Klopp has more than enough time to get to the top. If Klopp can ignore the top and aim towards claiming it, there is more than enough time to get it actualized. For me the season is very young and anything is still achievable, including winning the league from 6th position standing.

For other leagues like Serie A where sometimes almost all clubs always experience inconsistency problems, maybe I would think this point can still be caught. but this is the EPL where strong competition always occurs and the consistency of the several clubs there is always maintained and I am quite doubtful about the possibility that Liverpool can overtake 1st place in the end. For the top 4, maybe you can, but the rest, like fighting for the title, is clearly very difficult.

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on December 16, 2022, 05:35:37 PM

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Quote from: G_Besar on December 16, 2022, 03:27:50 PM

Maybe for this season Klopp has raised the white flag to chase the top position. Currently the Reds are quite far from the top of the standings. In my opinion, the most realistic thing for Liverpool is to improve their playing system which had fallen down and then chase the top four positions. The season is still very long, in the second half there will be many changes to the standings table.

Giving up before the season ends is actually not very good for anyone, including Liverpool this season. Because Liverpool need to try with various systems and strategies to get a better position, even though it looks very unlikely to win the first position, but for the top three and top four positions as you said I think it is still very possible for Liverpool to achieve it. It's just that this season there are more strong teams in the top three and four areas of the temporary standings so this is a little tougher for Liverpool.

Liverpool cannot win the English Premier League title and they are fully aware of it trying to chase the Premier League title is like one chasing his shadow.
However they do have large chances to make the top four as the only strong spots that have been occupied in the top four are Arsenal and Manchester City. Every other position in the top four is contestable, that is to say Liverpool has a great chance to enter into the top four if they try to be consistent with good results.

Very competitive for the top four too, but it's not impossible that Liverpool will return to their best form for the rest of this season, although the chances are small. I see a small chance for Liverpool, in the top four curently at there are Newcastle and Tottenham which have a short gap of 7-8 points, although only 7 or 8 points, Newcastle performance is a real threat then also Manchester United with Ten Hag. But hopefully Liverpool can be consistent to at least secure a ticket for UCL, anything can happen.

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on December 16, 2022, 05:35:37 PM

Quote from: CageMabok on December 16, 2022, 05:21:18 PM

Quote from: G_Besar on December 16, 2022, 03:27:50 PM

Maybe for this season Klopp has raised the white flag to chase the top position. Currently the Reds are quite far from the top of the standings. In my opinion, the most realistic thing for Liverpool is to improve their playing system which had fallen down and then chase the top four positions. The season is still very long, in the second half there will be many changes to the standings table.

Giving up before the season ends is actually not very good for anyone, including Liverpool this season. Because Liverpool need to try with various systems and strategies to get a better position, even though it looks very unlikely to win the first position, but for the top three and top four positions as you said I think it is still very possible for Liverpool to achieve it. It's just that this season there are more strong teams in the top three and four areas of the temporary standings so this is a little tougher for Liverpool.

Liverpool cannot win the English Premier League title and they are fully aware of it trying to chase the Premier League title is like one chasing his shadow.
However they do have large chances to make the top four as the only strong spots that have been occupied in the top four are Arsenal and Manchester City. Every other position in the top four is contestable, that is to say Liverpool has a great chance to enter into the top four if they try to be consistent with good results.

Liverpool is out of the title race,the bad start to the season costed them badly and now they can only hope that they reach the champions league group faze amd that is really intense. Arsenal and City will be battling the entire season for the title and only them

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Quote from: CageMabok on December 16, 2022, 05:21:18 PM

Quote from: G_Besar on December 16, 2022, 03:27:50 PM

Maybe for this season Klopp has raised the white flag to chase the top position. Currently the Reds are quite far from the top of the standings. In my opinion, the most realistic thing for Liverpool is to improve their playing system which had fallen down and then chase the top four positions. The season is still very long, in the second half there will be many changes to the standings table.

Giving up before the season ends is actually not very good for anyone, including Liverpool this season. Because Liverpool need to try with various systems and strategies to get a better position, even though it looks very unlikely to win the first position, but for the top three and top four positions as you said I think it is still very possible for Liverpool to achieve it. It's just that this season there are more strong teams in the top three and four areas of the temporary standings so this is a little tougher for Liverpool.

Liverpool cannot win the English Premier League title and they are fully aware of it trying to chase the Premier League title is like one chasing his shadow.
However they do have large chances to make the top four as the only strong spots that have been occupied in the top four are Arsenal and Manchester City. Every other position in the top four is contestable, that is to say Liverpool has a great chance to enter into the top four if they try to be consistent with good results.

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Quote from: CageMabok on December 16, 2022, 05:21:18 PM

Quote from: G_Besar on December 16, 2022, 03:27:50 PM

Maybe for this season Klopp has raised the white flag to chase the top position. Currently the Reds are quite far from the top of the standings. In my opinion, the most realistic thing for Liverpool is to improve their playing system which had fallen down and then chase the top four positions. The season is still very long, in the second half there will be many changes to the standings table.

Giving up before the season ends is actually not very good for anyone, including Liverpool this season. Because Liverpool need to try with various systems and strategies to get a better position, even though it looks very unlikely to win the first position, but for the top three and top four positions as you said I think it is still very possible for Liverpool to achieve it. It's just that this season there are more strong teams in the top three and four areas of the temporary standings so this is a little tougher for Liverpool.

Liverpool is only 15 points away from the table-top. The Premier League hasn't gone half way. The maximum game played is only 15 matches, so Klopp has more than enough time to get to the top. If Klopp can ignore the top and aim towards claiming it, there is more than enough time to get it actualized. For me the season is very young and anything is still achievable, including winning the league from 6th position standing.

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Quote from: G_Besar on December 16, 2022, 03:27:50 PM

Maybe for this season Klopp has raised the white flag to chase the top position. Currently the Reds are quite far from the top of the standings. In my opinion, the most realistic thing for Liverpool is to improve their playing system which had fallen down and then chase the top four positions. The season is still very long, in the second half there will be many changes to the standings table.

Giving up before the season ends is actually not very good for anyone, including Liverpool this season. Because Liverpool need to try with various systems and strategies to get a better position, even though it looks very unlikely to win the first position, but for the top three and top four positions as you said I think it is still very possible for Liverpool to achieve it. It's just that this season there are more strong teams in the top three and four areas of the temporary standings so this is a little tougher for Liverpool.

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