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September 30, 2021, 04:38:11 PM
I think the answer to these odds is in the public's mood. Even in the poll which in this thread shows that the majority thinks that City will become the champion this season, and much fewer people rely on Liverpool. I think the bets on these teams are distributed in approximately the same way, so the bookmakers insure themselves against a bad outcome and balance the accepted bets so as to guarantee themselves a profit in any outcome. Thus, in my opinion, this is a typical case of curved odds.
I would assume that it is based on what people wager on. I mean it is obvious that oddmakers care about what people wager on, sure it does a first off the batch odds at first but that changes overtime, because in the end if people are wagering on the underdog more than the favorites, you will question why that is and give odds better for the underdogs after a while thinking they are the favorites.

Long story short the oddmakers take in what people may wager on as the most important thing when they are deciding on the teams. This is based on what people wagered on those teams beforehand as well, so if people wagered a ton of money on City to win all their games so far, and sure a lot for Liverpool too but if it is less than they would put City as the better team because of those previous bets. This is how they do it, that much I know, can't speak on this spesific game but that is what happens in the long run.
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September 30, 2021, 04:30:32 PM
I don't know how strong Everton is, but such an imbalance in odds really raises questions:
1,52 - 4,40 - 6,40

The next match will be in Old Trafford and you know what that means do you. Manchester United is a different beast in a home game compared to away game and on top of that the morale of the whole teams seems to be on the higher side ever since Ronaldo joined the team so I'd expect alot of other teams will be getting these kind of odds whenever they play against Manchester United in Old Trafford

Yes, playing at home is always a plus, and if we were talking about European competitions, I would understand such a skew in odds, because a foreign team arriving at Old Trafford comes under the pressure of a great place, its history. This can play a role. But Everton plays here at least once a year, I think they are ready for anything.

Both teams have the same number of points, but the odds from the bookmakers are as if teams from different ends of the standings are participating in the match. Perhaps the Everton bet is justified here.

Yeah according to statistics from the last 6 matches, its pretty even overall but if you are looking for a chance to win decent amount then betting against favourite is not a bad idea afterall

On the 5th round, Manchester City had like 1.2 odds against Southampton but that match ended up with a draw

Yes, I like the idea of betting on Everton, but I need to think a little more - the problem is that I'm a United fan  Grin
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September 30, 2021, 02:47:01 PM
We are going to see Arsenal competing against Brighton away in two days. As we all know, Arsenal have been in a perfect shape lately. They won their last 5 official games. And they have a 3-win streak in the Premier League also. They finished Tottenham by 3-1 last and this must be a very satisfying victory for them also. But Brighton are going to be a very tough opponent for them. They have had a good start to the league and they are at a better position than Arsenal now. But Arsenal won their last head-to-head game against them here by 1-0 also. I believe in Arsenal not to lose this game. I think that both teams will score and the game will end in a draw like 1-1 or maybe 2-2.
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September 30, 2021, 01:52:57 PM
Manager Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is expected to provide an attractive game, considering that his opponents Everton have a collective style of play that tends to be pragmatic, but Man United remains the favourite, because in the last five meetings against Everton vs United in all competitions, they have always won.
Ronaldo and his friends must play optimally to get three points to turn things around in the standings, and also have the advantage of playing at home against Everton later.
Manchester United fans are quite optimistic against Everton now that their squad is confident of a win with Villarreal and can beat Everton in what will be the Premier League game this week.

Ronaldo had quite an influence on his team, on the other hand, Ole Gunner also had to be able to read Everton's strategy, which is sometimes tough to beat considering this is an away game, so I believe in Ronaldo and his friends who can win after yesterday's defeat to Aston Villa, therefore they have optimism for the 3 points that must be brought.
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September 30, 2021, 11:53:48 AM
I actually believe Everton are much stronger than Villareal (taking into account current squad and Rafa Benitez now as their tactical mastermind). Ole is very poor at tactics so if his men can't perform in the first half, then Everton will punish them.

Odds make it not worth to bet on United too unless the bookies update the numbers in a day Smiley

I don't know how strong Everton is, but such an imbalance in odds really raises questions:
1,52 - 4,40 - 6,40
Both teams have the same number of points, but the odds from the bookmakers are as if teams from different ends of the standings are participating in the match. Perhaps the Everton bet is justified here.
It's obvious that Man United will be the favorite since they are the bigger club and they have Ronaldo but the odds looks unjustified. I think their dramatic win in Champions League and the fact that they will play at home has made the other team the huge underdog.
Manager Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is expected to provide an attractive game, considering that his opponents Everton have a collective style of play that tends to be pragmatic, but Man United remains the favourite, because in the last five meetings against Everton vs United in all competitions, they have always won.
Ronaldo and his friends must play optimally to get three points to turn things around in the standings, and also have the advantage of playing at home against Everton later.
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September 30, 2021, 11:38:34 AM
I don't know how strong Everton is, but such an imbalance in odds really raises questions:
1,52 - 4,40 - 6,40

The next match will be in Old Trafford and you know what that means do you. Manchester United is a different beast in a home game compared to away game and on top of that the morale of the whole teams seems to be on the higher side ever since Ronaldo joined the team so I'd expect alot of other teams will be getting these kind of odds whenever they play against Manchester United in Old Trafford

Both teams have the same number of points, but the odds from the bookmakers are as if teams from different ends of the standings are participating in the match. Perhaps the Everton bet is justified here.

Yeah according to statistics from the last 6 matches, its pretty even overall but if you are looking for a chance to win decent amount then betting against favourite is not a bad idea afterall

On the 5th round, Manchester City had like 1.2 odds against Southampton but that match ended up with a draw
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September 30, 2021, 11:13:07 AM
I actually believe Everton are much stronger than Villareal (taking into account current squad and Rafa Benitez now as their tactical mastermind). Ole is very poor at tactics so if his men can't perform in the first half, then Everton will punish them.

Odds make it not worth to bet on United too unless the bookies update the numbers in a day Smiley

I don't know how strong Everton is, but such an imbalance in odds really raises questions:
1,52 - 4,40 - 6,40
Both teams have the same number of points, but the odds from the bookmakers are as if teams from different ends of the standings are participating in the match. Perhaps the Everton bet is justified here.
It's obvious that Man United will be the favorite since they are the bigger club and they have Ronaldo but the odds looks unjustified. I think their dramatic win in Champions League and the fact that they will play at home has made the other team the huge underdog.
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September 30, 2021, 10:38:19 AM
I actually believe Everton are much stronger than Villareal (taking into account current squad and Rafa Benitez now as their tactical mastermind). Ole is very poor at tactics so if his men can't perform in the first half, then Everton will punish them.

Odds make it not worth to bet on United too unless the bookies update the numbers in a day Smiley

I don't know how strong Everton is, but such an imbalance in odds really raises questions:
1,52 - 4,40 - 6,40
Both teams have the same number of points, but the odds from the bookmakers are as if teams from different ends of the standings are participating in the match. Perhaps the Everton bet is justified here.
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September 30, 2021, 09:49:52 AM
Manchester united managed to beat villareal last night, and of course this is a good provision for them to face everton this weekend, I think ronaldo's performance with manchester really makes a big difference in every game they live, but even so, it looks like OGS have to do a little changes to face everton later, because in my opinion the manchester united players only have a little time to recover their stamina and performance after a difficult match against villareal and they only have 2 days before facing everton in the leaguea nd of course if OGS forced the squad last night to continue playing it would be very prone to injury.

I actually believe Everton are much stronger than Villareal (taking into account current squad and Rafa Benitez now as their tactical mastermind). Ole is very poor at tactics so if his men can't perform in the first half, then Everton will punish them.

Odds make it not worth to bet on United too unless the bookies update the numbers in a day Smiley
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September 30, 2021, 09:42:29 AM
We are going to be opening the new match weekend with a quite competitive match I think: Manchester United v Everton. [...] We might watch a boring match with few goals or maybe even no goal.

A 1-0 win for United, with Ronaldo scoring the winner in the 97th minute... you heard it here first  Grin

Seriously though, I'm not hugely impressed by United and the purchase of Ronaldo doesn't address their flaws, it just masks them. He's a great player and gives them an added dimension, just not in the way they need.
I don't see them as title contenders this season, but I'd say they're still (a bit) better than Everton.
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September 30, 2021, 09:38:19 AM
Exactly man,Manchester United's coach Ole will not let Christiano Ronaldo take a penalty because he is new,and because he trusts and believes in Fernandes.Anybody can miss penalty,Fernandes is a great player that commands and demands respect.He is unarguably the best player in that team.I am sure Ole trusts him and will still give him that opportunity again to perform well,and that will be the best thing he will do as a manager.

That penalty has nothing to do with trust, Fernandes is a good player, as is Christiano Ronaldo, and I am certain that Ole trusts both of them.
Ole made the best decision by making Fernandes take that PK, that's what any wise man would have done. You wouldn't expect C. Ronaldo as one of the greatest players of all time, to make others feel bad because he was welcomed to the club. Things have to be done the way they are because, the existing players would believe Ole was taking sides.
Despite doing the right thing, Fernandes lost the PK.  Grin Grin
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September 30, 2021, 09:27:50 AM
We are going to be opening the new match weekend with a quite competitive match I think: Manchester United v Everton. There has been a big rivalry between these big teams of this league in history. And I came across an interesting statistics also that Everton haven't defeated Manchester United away in the league since December 2013. This is a good psychological advantage for Manchester United. However their recent form is not very bright. They are barely able to win matches lately. And this can continue against Everton also. So I guess Everton won't lose very easily. But Richarlison and Calvert-Lewin are critical losses for them also. We might watch a boring match with few goals or maybe even no goal.
Manchester united must win the match if they want to secure their position in the current standings, everton which is currently under manchester united will certainly appear all out to be able to achieve positive results, currently Manchester United is in 4th position with 13 points, while Everton is in 5th place with a collection of 13 points. It will be a competitive match and crucial for both teams to secure their position.
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September 30, 2021, 08:56:18 AM
United's attack is good, it is defense which takes them back to square one. The mistake they do behind at the pitch gives opponents some good chances to score. Take Villa game for example where they gave away Villa so many chances to score. Yesterday also they were quite open against Villareal. Its the same story over and over again.
It's not good enough and Ole relies on players moment to get goals and points. He is not able to prepare a few tactics for United to find goals. He is not flexible with player choice and tactic changes. The appearance of Ronaldo will make United rely on him and Ole will become less flexible with his substitutions with attacking system.

I agree about the defense of United that need to be improved. Wan Bisaka and Luke Shaw don't make me feel safely. Maguire so far has not had good performance as the last season.
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September 30, 2021, 08:40:05 AM
United's attack is good, it is defense which takes them back to square one. The mistake they do behind at the pitch gives opponents some good chances to score. Take Villa game for example where they gave away Villa so many chances to score. Yesterday also they were quite open against Villareal. Its the same story over and over again.

That's right, if you saw them perform at UCL. They are very bad, especially on the right side. Seen the first 20 minutes there were 2 kicks on goal. But De Gea was able to brush it off. It looks like their distance is too wide, they are easy for Villareal players to pass. I miss when there was Ferdinand, Vidic, evra and Gary Nevile. They are very strong, at the moment I think they are the best defensive combination I have known Manchester United.
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September 30, 2021, 07:53:41 AM
We are going to be opening the new match weekend with a quite competitive match I think: Manchester United v Everton. There has been a big rivalry between these big teams of this league in history. And I came across an interesting statistics also that Everton haven't defeated Manchester United away in the league since December 2013. This is a good psychological advantage for Manchester United. However their recent form is not very bright. They are barely able to win matches lately. And this can continue against Everton also. So I guess Everton won't lose very easily. But Richarlison and Calvert-Lewin are critical losses for them also. We might watch a boring match with few goals or maybe even no goal.
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September 30, 2021, 07:47:38 AM
Liverpool v Manchester City can be one of the most exciting games of the weekend. To be honest, I really like both of them in the last weeks. Liverpool are the current leader but this might change after this weekend. Manchester City showed a really great effort against Chelsea and proved how much strong they are when they want to be. Chelsea couldn't resist easily against them even if it ended by 1-0. Liverpool are very strong as for their offense and they are better at defense as van Dijk is not injured anymore. I hope that we can watch a great game that consists of many goals. I would expect both of them to score.
Looking forward to this game both teams are strong but liverpool need to be carefull not to stay in defense and begin the game trying to score they really have a strong attack with salah at top form and city with defensive difficulties especially after the match against psg but we will see an interesting game i think both teams will score.
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September 30, 2021, 07:37:30 AM
I would assume that the best thing for United could have been facing Villareal right now. They faced last year and Villareal came out at top, so United would be feeling furious about last year. So I am assuming that they would be playing a lot harder this time around, it would probably be something like a revenge for what happened last year and I could see United beating them with a big point difference. Obviously it is going to be not that easy and I would assume that it would be a lot easier if it was simply just United at full strength as well but they seem a little tired lately, however it is still looking a lot better for them.

I think 1.5+ goal difference and a win for United seems like a good bet, not guaranteed of course, they could still end up losing, or in that case even if they win by 1 goals the bet would be a loss, but I believe revenge would be a good reason to play hard.
Injury time goal from Ronaldo is big break through for Manchester United as mostly match was level and both teams play very good game Vilareal is good team in La Liga, and they have done very good against them in past but today at home Manchester United won and have their first win of this season which was very important for them after losing two games in Premier League and EFL Cup.

In this week they are going to play against Everton which is excellent team but sadly right now they have 2 strikers out with injuries which is good advantage for Manchester United they can win this game.
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September 30, 2021, 07:31:30 AM
Chelsea have a home match against Southampton this Saturday. After losing to Manchester City by 1-0, they lost to Juventus in the Champions League by the same score also. They don't concede many goals but they are having a difficulty in scoring even one also for two matches. This must be a sign for them to get better at scoring from now on. The Southampton match is a good opportunity for this. But Chelsea couldn't defeat them in their home matches three times in a row. It will be a chance for getting rid of this bad luck against them also.

Totally depending on Romelu Lukaku last night, Southampton can be very roughly hard to crack, having no Mason mount to create something upfront for Lukaku,maybe bringing in wingers to break Southampton down, although same tactics was used by Pep Guardiola's Manchester City team, having no shot on target at the end of the day.

I'm not certain, but I'm predicting Chelsea to loss this one if don't take good use of them Chance's.
Goals will be scares in this match and Southampton.

N'Golo Kante, Mason Mount and Pulisic are very important players for Chelsea and they are all still absent. Maybe this was one of the biggest reasons why they were really bad at ending their dangerous attacks with a goal. Especially Mount is a very crucial player for Chelsea as for their offensive side. And Kante is a big loss in the midfield. Because when he plays, Chelsea midfield is much stronger and reassuring.
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September 30, 2021, 07:22:34 AM
This should be an easy one for Manchester United without no much doubts, having a late win against Villarreal.
They need to win in order to keep it going, although Everton will be defending very.
We'll get to see how it finally unfolds.
Manchester united managed to beat villareal last night, and of course this is a good provision for them to face everton this weekend, I think ronaldo's performance with manchester really makes a big difference in every game they live, but even so, it looks like OGS have to do a little changes to face everton later, because in my opinion the manchester united players only have a little time to recover their stamina and performance after a difficult match against villareal and they only have 2 days before facing everton in the leaguea nd of course if OGS forced the squad last night to continue playing it would be very prone to injury.

A very tight match schedule does force Solskjaer to rotate players, otherwise it is very risky for players to be injured. But maybe only 3-4 players
will be substituted against Everton, because changing too many main players will make team work not work well. Several players such as Varane,
Pogba, Greenwood, Bruno Fernandes and Ronaldo will still play against Everton. Because Man United does need a win to keep the chances of
winning the Premier League this season, let alone the previous match in the Premier League, Man United lost points after being defeated by Aston Villa.
So the match against Everton is like a Man United must win match.
Currently to anticipate player injuries due to a busy schedule, of course rotation is one of the right solutions to do, I think rotating several players in several positions will not damage the balance in their game later, especially the quality of the reserves owned by Manchester United is no different away from their main man, I think now is the right time to rest Ronaldo for a game and give the opportunity to other Manchester United strikers, like Edison Cavani and Rashford who has recovered  to play the full game.

Manchester United have many option to make rotation with their composition because both regular player and non regular have the same quality, on forward is not make Ole confused because they have many option who will be starter on every match, almost each position Manchester United have perfect regular and non regular player and give easy how to make less injury for them. Midfielder they still Juan Mata as option to make rotation and exactly Matic could be second option as defensive midfielder.
Man utd has enough options and depth n the squad it's up to Ole Solskjaer to rest some of the keys players against Everton, in midfield he has Mctominay, Van De Beek, Pereira and Matic with other main squad substitute these players should be able to beat Everton, else Ole continues playing the same sets of players week in week out can lead to injury to some of the players, I believe Ole sticking with those same sets of players is because he wouldn't want to gamble with other non regular players, of course he has no option than to take a risk and play them to avoid consequence of injuries to the regular players.
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September 30, 2021, 07:12:10 AM
I'm not sure about which side could win but I'm expecting both teams to score.
On the other hand am seeing only one team to score not both,, but Manchester City has this tendency of overpowering its opponents and showing off the skill they have  in the premier league but when they leave to play in other competitions, they play like a totally different team hope they come like the power house they are known for.

Actually yeah, it will depend on Manchester City's performance. After losing to PSG by 2-0, everyone should be curious about how much good they will perform against Liverpool in this game. If they have problems on controlling the game like they did against Chelsea, then it is very probable to see both teams scoring. But if they have the control of the game, then a very tough game will be waiting for Liverpool. Because maybe we can see a similar game to the one against Chelsea. And Liverpool might have problems on scoring easily.
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