Topic: [Primedice] Beware Guyz, Scamming HR!!!!!! - page 9. (Read 10562 times)

thousand of thousand bitcoins scammed by well known parties and anyone got his coins back by any legal ways?

I think perhaps now you're starting to form the picture here. Hypothesize: if the player was in fact cheating but Edward paid him the coins, what then? Instead, if you can link the coins to someone whom you can penalize (perhaps legally) then you are able to recover the coins and also deter future cheating.

which part we cant agree instead of saying your withdraw is pending because we are investigating possible cheat/exploit just bare little with us

why all those unnecesary questions?

Why are you and RichGang trying to make this a issue with "dirty coins"? Maybe I missed something, but where is primedice claiming the coins are bad? I honestly don't think they or any other gambling site cares where coins come from as long as they're not double spends.

Sounds like you both are trying to take the focus off the real issue: Did he exploit the site and then try to withdraw 80 BTC

OP and Primedice haven't included alot of information so you guys are really jumping the gun, unless you know something that hasn't been posted public.

EDIT:

If you go back and look at OP you'll see he's claiming they are forcing him to tell personal details. I don't see that as the case:

https://postimg.org/image/3zo9nbtr5
"if you don't mind me asking"

https://postimg.org/image/40y7gqvkx
"I'd love to process the withdrawal as soon as possible"

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"I will need some"

He doesn't say anywhere the withdrawal can't be processed so I'm gonna assume if all information requested was provided, the withdrawal would have been much faster compared to waiting until the investigation is complete - Which is something I hope other sites do when processing large withdrawals. Letting users auto withdraw large amounts can be a huge issue, just look at the previous failed dice sites and sports books who claim hack / exploit.

2 - I believe the reason for asking the information is to have someone they can go after in the event that an investigation reveals he was cheating. From what I understand, sufficient answers to Edward's questions would allow the OP to receive his coins prior to the conclusion of an investigation.

3 - I don't think Edward was questioning if the coins were "dirty" or not, I think he was trying to find a way to go after the OP if an investigation revealed the OP was using an exploit.  For example, if the OP sent BTC from his bitstamp account to PD, then PD could ask bitstamp whose account was being used to withdraw from bitstamp

4 - I don't believe that PD has ever advertised themselves as being "anon" nor that player's can be "anon". it is a common misconception that Bitcoin is anonymous, however that is simply not true. 

they would just say that at first hand who would be against that
at all they prove their trust all those times 1 2 3 day or 1 week for investigation who would care except than op?

I don't think any of this has to do with "dirty coins". Asking for all that information was probably some type of stall tactic while they investigated the possibility of a hack / exploit being used.

i am not against investigation if game played fairly or not

but when things came to gather info about player or coins things will change

if you dont want to pay winnings due to dirty coins you should not accept dirty coins

if you want to run annonmyous casino you should not look for non-annonymous players

I am pretty sure that Edward's info is fairly public. I am not as sure about Stunna's information.

I came across Edward's FB profile several months ago (maybe a year+) when PD was running some kind of FB giveaway, and there was a fairly decent amount of publicly available information there. Not only that but PD has been around for long enough and has been entrusted with enough money to reasonably say that they can be trusted with fairly large amounts of money, and if you don't trust them with your money, or if you don't trust them to be fair, then you do not have to play at PD.....they do not have that option.

anyone know stunnas or edwards a info which be used for sue if they scam anyone?

I disagree. PD has every right to ask questions when they come across something they deem to be suspicious. Just as they have the right to investigate. I would not find it to be especially out of the ordinary if a large withdrawal was delayed a few days, and don't think it is uncommon for a withdrawal to be delayed by sites for several hours.

From the looks of it, Edward is trying to find a person he can sue in the event that an investigation reveals that an exploit was used.

That is crazy.

I am pretty sure that PD cares if the OP cheated. They have no reason to pay him if in fact he did cheat.

It is trivial for any player to verify every one of their loosing bets to ensure that the bet was fair. The player can verify that the outcome of the roll was decided prior to the bet being made, which would result in it being impossible for the casino to cheat the player as long as they verify their bets.

It is trivial to prove that the casino did not cheat the player via provably fair, however it is much more difficult to prove the player did not cheat the casino via provably fair. The casino not getting cheated depends on them being able to keep the "server seed" secret, however it is very difficult to tell if a player was somehow able to "figure out" the server seed.

Out of curiosity, are you an alt of robertt?

genius can you calculate 32 red on 2x pls?

Dude read again, he asked for ID,
And why ask where btc is gotten after winning. Why not ask when depositing

otherwise would they ask why did you use mixer?

they have to investigate anything related to provably fair game but rest which include coins origins is not their business(at least if they dont care when stolen/hacked/scammed coins went to their pocket they shouldnt care reverse if no cheat found at provably fair game)

Edward is hardly asking for anything personal. He's asking for your contact details, that's all. "When and where you bought your bitcoins", that is hardly related to the topic.

If he asks for your ID, then that wouldn't be very appropriate. But he's just asking you simple info mate.

Irrelevant with what I stated. It doesn't matter whether you played with 0.01 until 80 BTC or if you went and doubled or anything else. It's still 8000x the original deposit. At the very best, a 1 in 8167 chance when playing at Primedice. It was probably an even lower chance if they wagered more, due to house edge.

BTCTHE TRUTH IS THEY ARE ASKING FOR HIS PERSONAL DETAILS SO THEY CAN GO ROB HIM SINCE THEY COULDN'T ROB HIM ONLINE

Thats the point they are avoiding. They tslking llike he was betting 0.01 and won till 80btc.
If he lost 80btc, these scums will say its fair

Wait, they're holding his withdrawal because of where the coin came from? All the replies above make it sound like they're holding because of suspicious activity (hack, exploit etc) on site, not the deposit itself.

Dude, I stopped. If I had continued, I would have won 80000x my original depo. My point is, its possible.
I dont even get this. If someone losses say 300btc and say he was scammed, u guys say he was unlucky and call him a sore looser. Now somr one is winning, why not call him a winner?
Ok, where is the provably shit I always here stunna dean and puppet nlcico scream??