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Topic: PRISM - Who else is disgusted by this? - page 11. (Read 41124 times)

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Im astonished its that low, afterall he betrayed his country and is working with communists and aliens.

I agree he shouldnt have started sharing secrets to China etc.  That was idiotic, and prosecutable.  

But then again, the US should not be prosecuting him because he sacrificed the rest of his ENTIRE life, so you and the rest of the American people could see an injustice.
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"Because frankly, if people are making judgments just based on these slides that have been leaked, they’re not getting the complete story.”
-Barack Obama on PRISM

You really cleared that up for us Mr. President.  Thanks.
legendary
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Im astonished its that low, afterall he betrayed his country and is working with communists and aliens.
legendary
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I'm surprised there aren't more US citizens on the streets. Even to someone who condones surveillance, the fact that the US government is hunting and criminalizing Snowden shows clearly where it stands.

Really, I thought Americans were civilized. This is not a behavior I would expect from them.

The correct response of the US population would be to march on their government and get out a formal apology to both Americans and unnecessarily targeted people abroad. Snowden should be officially honored for speaking the truth, in the peoples' interest, against massive coercion attempts.

2/3 of Americans think Snowden should be prosecuted.

Where does that poll data come from? Now THAT is sad
legendary
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I am just surprised how easy it is for them to get away with this.  Half the public even defends the NSA.... because of course, the smartest, largest terror operations use a facebook/skype/gmail/mainstream solution, gotta update your status before blowing up a building.....

Its really sad to see about 90 percent of the population truly do not give a shit. 

Yeah, true story. I mean this is the greatest spy attac in history but it seems that nobody gives a shit about it! I mean how can you just ignore something?
A large part of the answer has to do with how the media has presented or ignored it.

The US government has a deathgrip on all the major news networks, It's difficult to get good information out to the uninformed masses via press.

Good reporting by the Guardian in the UK. I applaud them for not giving one shit about the US governments desires.
legendary
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After all the things in history government has done, i am not in any way surprised by this. The only thing that's keeping our heads over the water is the fact that the government can't keep up with technology innovation.

If they can't keep up, they will just take what they need from the true innovators.
legendary
Activity: 1470
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I'm surprised there aren't more US citizens on the streets. Even to someone who condones surveillance, the fact that the US government is hunting and criminalizing Snowden shows clearly where it stands.

Really, I thought Americans were civilized. This is not a behavior I would expect from them.

The correct response of the US population would be to march on their government and get out a formal apology to both Americans and unnecessarily targeted people abroad. Snowden should be officially honored for speaking the truth, in the peoples' interest, against massive coercion attempts.

Many people are upset, but the question right now is what would it take for change? I think most people aren't ready to risk their normal lives and march against the government. Who knows what negative punishment could come from something like that.

I believe it will take a certain breaking point for that to happen, and as bad as everything is now, that still might be far away.
legendary
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NSA Recruiters vs students  (Audio Only)


Students 1  /  NSA 0

https://soundcloud.com/madiha-1/students-question-the-nsa-at
legendary
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A large part of the answer has to do with how the media has presented or ignored it.
The U.S. national media (TV networks, NYTimes, etc.) have pretty much focused on the plight of Snowden and ignored their duty to follow up on Snowden's allegations.  They report what Snowden has said, but have done little investigative journalism of their own to invalidate, confirm, or expand on Snowden's words.  The few stories that have come out since (google, facebook, etc. helping NSA) were dumped in their laps.  I think they would liked to have buried the whole affair but couldn't because it was getting so much attention from non-U.S. media.  They are so used to "reporting" to sway public perception and opinion against this type of thing.  Now they have a situation where public opinion is already firmly outraged about it, but they don't want to fan the flames because it looks really bad for Obama and they have so much invested in him.

Sometimes I wonder how much of this sort of developing process is the result of the following type of emerging reality:

A)  NSA/CIA Guy:  "I want to have a cool nice job in an air conditioned building staring at a computer screen.  My gosh - WAY BELOW ME to be out on the streets in a hostile country, in a disguise, handing money over for dirty work, late at night."

B)  REPORTER:  "I want to scrape stories from the Internet, from Twitter and stuff like that.  The AP and Reuters and head office sends most of the stuff to me anyway.  It's an easy, fun life.  What?  Me go out and dig stories up?  Talk to people?  Research?  Hey, no way...that's like hard, man."


C)  ....

You get the idea.  I don't have to continue with University Prof, Average Consumer, etc.
sr. member
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I'm surprised there aren't more US citizens on the streets. Even to someone who condones surveillance, the fact that the US government is hunting and criminalizing Snowden shows clearly where it stands.

Really, I thought Americans were civilized. This is not a behavior I would expect from them.

The correct response of the US population would be to march on their government and get out a formal apology to both Americans and unnecessarily targeted people abroad. Snowden should be officially honored for speaking the truth, in the peoples' interest, against massive coercion attempts.

2/3 of Americans think Snowden should be prosecuted.
sr. member
Activity: 260
Merit: 250
A large part of the answer has to do with how the media has presented or ignored it.
The U.S. national media (TV networks, NYTimes, etc.) have pretty much focused on the plight of Snowden and ignored their duty to follow up on Snowden's allegations.  They report what Snowden has said, but have done little investigative journalism of their own to invalidate, confirm, or expand on Snowden's words.  The few stories that have come out since (google, facebook, etc. helping NSA) were dumped in their laps.  I think they would liked to have buried the whole affair but couldn't because it was getting so much attention from non-U.S. media.  They are so used to "reporting" to sway public perception and opinion against this type of thing.  Now they have a situation where public opinion is already firmly outraged about it, but they don't want to fan the flames because it looks really bad for Obama and they have so much invested in him.
legendary
Activity: 1316
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A large part of the answer has to do with how the media has presented or ignored it.
Yeah, also i find the amount of "good news" about other liberal topics astonishing.
legendary
Activity: 2912
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I am just surprised how easy it is for them to get away with this.  Half the public even defends the NSA.... because of course, the smartest, largest terror operations use a facebook/skype/gmail/mainstream solution, gotta update your status before blowing up a building.....

Its really sad to see about 90 percent of the population truly do not give a shit. 

Yeah, true story. I mean this is the greatest spy attac in history but it seems that nobody gives a shit about it! I mean how can you just ignore something?
A large part of the answer has to do with how the media has presented or ignored it.
hero member
Activity: 574
Merit: 500
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I am just surprised how easy it is for them to get away with this.  Half the public even defends the NSA.... because of course, the smartest, largest terror operations use a facebook/skype/gmail/mainstream solution, gotta update your status before blowing up a building.....

Its really sad to see about 90 percent of the population truly do not give a shit. 

Yeah, true story. I mean this is the greatest spy attac in history but it seems that nobody gives a shit about it! I mean how can you just ignore something?
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
The correct response of the US population would be to march on their government and get out a formal apology to ... unnecessarily targeted people abroad.
Dont be naive, the USA has bombed, sabotaged and overthrown countless countries back to the stone age in the last 70 years with an overwhelming approval of their population. They surly dont mind a little harmless spying for their nations benefit.

True.  Look what they are trying to do with snowden as well. 
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
I am just surprised how easy it is for them to get away with this.  Half the public even defends the NSA.... because of course, the smartest, largest terror operations use a facebook/skype/gmail/mainstream solution, gotta update your status before blowing up a building.....

Its really sad to see about 90 percent of the population truly do not give a shit. 
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1000
The Egyptians know how to get this shit done, everyone in our countries is too passive about this sort of thing, if people in my country took to the streets demanding the politicians resign I'd be right there with them, it's a shame people in Egypt care more than we do.
legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1003
The correct response of the US population would be to march on their government and get out a formal apology to ... unnecessarily targeted people abroad.
Dont be naive, the USA has bombed, sabotaged and overthrown countless countries back to the stone age in the last 70 years with an overwhelming approval of their population. They surly dont mind a little harmless spying for their nations benefit.
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After all the things in history government has done, i am not in any way surprised by this. The only thing that's keeping our heads over the water is the fact that the government can't keep up with technology innovation.
legendary
Activity: 1036
Merit: 1002
I'm surprised there aren't more US citizens on the streets. Even to someone who condones surveillance, the fact that the US government is hunting and criminalizing Snowden shows clearly where it stands.

Really, I thought Americans were civilized. This is not a behavior I would expect from them.

The correct response of the US population would be to march on their government and get out a formal apology to both Americans and unnecessarily targeted people abroad. Snowden should be officially honored for speaking the truth, in the peoples' interest, against massive coercion attempts.
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