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legendary
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June 29, 2023, 04:39:38 AM
#67
I think I'll just leave this here, it's old but I guess theymos has not changed his mind yet so...

The software is substantially complete. The main period of development was a while ago; the current work is mainly just maintenance & relatively minor improvements. Try running it yourself and you'll find that it's working, fast, and nearly feature-complete.

The things blocking a transition from the current software to the new software are:
 - There hasn't been enough testing. I think that immediately after transition, a variety of small missed features, bugs, and performance issues would crop up. As a result, if the transition happened now (which is technically possible!), I'd expect the post-transition user experience to be poor for months while these things are fixed, which I don't want.
 - I am the only bitcointalk.org sysadmin and on-demand programmer, and I'm used to the current software. Furthermore, I need to frequently make changes to the current software, but each change I make might require alterations to Epochtalk, which is problematic.
 - The current PHP software, while ugly and sub-optimal in many ways, performs well, especially since I have extensively modified the backend to add features and improve performance. So I don't feel much urgency.
 - The data-transition procedure still has a few known minor bugs.
 
We continue to work on these issues. I think that ultimately I may need to hire one or more full-time people, since a big problem is that the full transition is likely to create a ton of work which I won't be able to effectively handle alone.

The software is not vaporware (it's long existed in a runnable state, and is currently basically feature-complete), and is not abandoned (look at the git commit log). If anyone is unhappy with the progress, I invite them to take the Epochtalk code and create a competing forum with it; since they won't have to worry about the transition issues, they'd have a much easier time, and their testing will also end up helping us.

In short: If you want the software quicker, go run your own forum with it, and work to get any problems or missing features you find resolved via bug reports, etc. This would increase public interest, provide much-needed testing, and I might even hire you to work on bitcointalk.org when we're ready to do the final transition here.
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June 28, 2023, 06:55:50 PM
#66
So, right now, I think that the only way to get new forum software is if developers that are also active on this forum, decide to work on Epochtalk, improve it, add new features, do testing, etc and get a like/approve from theymos. Then, we may get a new forum software, before that, I think we have to just willingly use an old SMF.
I have been seeing activity from the server repositories for quite some time as there is a bot that keeps making updates in the discord server. I am not sure how long it will take, but the other two forums I know that were created by members to do some testing are inactive at the moment. In fact, one of them is even probably offline (it was not able to load it)

So after the server part is set up, I wonder what the next step would be. A road map would really come in handy here.
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June 26, 2023, 04:21:04 AM
#65
I'll echo what I said many times before. Theymos wants us (the users) to test the forum software and when most of the bugs are fixed then maybe we can see it coming to life here...
For me, paid testers would do much more efficient work in a shorter time frame, but that's just me Smiley
I think that theymos has forum funds and manages to host this forum and keep it alive but it looks like the situation here is following: Here is the forum, now, users, take care of it, you are open to get some data or scrap this forum, sort it, manage it and create new tools.
So, right now, I think that the only way to get new forum software is if developers that are also active on this forum, decide to work on Epochtalk, improve it, add new features, do testing, etc and get a like/approve from theymos. Then, we may get a new forum software, before that, I think we have to just willingly use an old SMF.
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June 23, 2023, 06:30:12 PM
#64
I'll echo what I said many times before. Theymos wants us (the users) to test the forum software and when most of the bugs are fixed then maybe we can see it coming to life here...
For me, paid testers would do much more efficient work in a shorter time frame, but that's just me Smiley
I would be more than willing to test or report any bugs, but only if we were doing via the current forum and I believe most members would do the same... Not registering a new account on another new forum. Obviously, I may personally have no time for that

I still wonder why Theymos won't do this.
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June 16, 2023, 08:37:21 PM
#63
I'll echo what I said many times before. Theymos wants us (the users) to test the forum software and when most of the bugs are fixed then maybe we can see it coming to life here...
For me, paid testers would do much more efficient work in a shorter time frame, but that's just me Smiley
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June 11, 2023, 05:20:08 AM
#62
It's been about 5 years since then, I'm close to 50 and I'm still waiting,
I registered around the same time and also met the same talk about the new forum software being ready "soon". Comparing the talk about it then with now, it's obvious a lot of users are no longer anticipating it and have resigned to the fact that it would my be ready soon.

Let's give it the next 5 years and see what progress we make.
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June 09, 2023, 11:22:46 AM
#61
Man, feels like my Grand kids will be the ones to enjoy the new forum software that is, provided the tech behind its build isn't old by the time of it's release  Cheesy
I remember when I registered for the first time in the forum, I asked the older members if the forum would be updated, and they told me that a new version of the forum was under development. I was very happy.

It's been about 5 years since then, I'm close to 50 and I'm still waiting, I hope I can use the new forum before the day I die Grin

Is there anything new?
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May 17, 2023, 12:28:05 PM
#60
Man, feels like my Grand kids will be the ones to enjoy the new forum software that is, provided the tech behind its build isn't old by the time of it's release  Cheesy

It's not an easy task this one to make something from scratch.

I hope the forums will still be actual when the software is released Smiley
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May 14, 2023, 06:09:47 PM
#59
Man, feels like my Grand kids will be the ones to enjoy the new forum software that is, provided the tech behind its build isn't old by the time of it's release  Cheesy
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February 02, 2023, 02:43:58 PM
#58
There are always updates in the #epochtalk channel from Bitcointalk Discord. And also very recent ones, so that should mean something is happening with the source code.
Or do I understand this wrong? Cool

They are working on the server side, there's a lot of activity yeah.
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February 02, 2023, 04:43:04 AM
#57
There are always updates in the #epochtalk channel from Bitcointalk Discord. And also very recent ones, so that should mean something is happening with the source code.
Or do I understand this wrong? Cool
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January 06, 2023, 06:39:30 PM
#56
Darn, yall weren't supposed to bump the thread.

I wanted to code new software that fulfils all the requirements and get a smoler bounty than the 10k BTC paid for the first forum software  Lips sealed
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January 06, 2023, 11:59:57 AM
#55
Just wondering when exactly the creation of the new forum software was started.
I don't think there's public information with regard to its exact starting point, but judging by the date on the "Current requirements" thread, it must've been in the second week of March 2014.
- It's worth noting that I'm seeing a slightly different result from looking at the following "repositories", but I don't know my way around GitHub (I might be missing something)!
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January 06, 2023, 06:49:16 AM
#54
Still waiting?  Grin

Just wondering when exactly the creation of the new forum software was started.
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April 08, 2022, 03:07:19 AM
#53
Somehow that doesn't make much sense but whatever floats your boat I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

If you upgraded your old Honda Civic and decide to buy a new Accord can you retrofit all the upgraded parts to the new car that easily and without any issues ? Now multiply that with 100 and welcome to the coding world  Grin
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April 07, 2022, 10:19:40 PM
#52
Somehow that doesn't make much sense but whatever floats your boat I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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April 04, 2022, 01:43:00 AM
#51
So does the latest version of SMF (the software currently being used here)...
It seems that you're right [source], but considering the fact that the current forum software [SMF 1.1.19] has been heavily modified, I'm assuming it'd take an equal amount of time [or more] to modify the latest version; hence, it made sense to opt for Epochtalk!
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April 03, 2022, 06:08:32 PM
#50
I read about the plans with the new software Epochtalk.
I acutally created a mobile phone friendly bitcoin Forum
It's worth noting that Epochtalk actually has a responsive design [mobile-friendly] and you can even try it from "here".

So does the latest version of SMF (the software currently being used here)...
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February 14, 2022, 08:35:19 AM
#49
There are already BTCBTCBTC invested, and there is already a product coming to a final phase, it's all about testing and bug hunting.
Why derailing already build platform with WordPress?

WordPress is so widely used because it's intuitive, no need a programming background to run one and there are hundreds of thousands different themes and add-ons free and paid which make everything finished with a few clicks. I also ran a website sometime ago based on WP, I know exactly how it is.

I do not doubt the tech background of our admins are way above this click-and-run strategy most of the ppl choose to, do because it's easier.
legendary
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February 12, 2022, 04:12:28 PM
#48
Wordpress is much worse for security and it's much easier to hack, so I would never run a forum like this.

It's more accurate to say Wordpress is not secure enough by default. There's good reason why Wordpress is most popular option for blogging/personal website.

WordPress is used by 65.3% of all the websites whose content management system we know. This is 43.3% of all websites.

And besides, I do not think WordPres can serve as a serious forum platform, since it was not designed for that purpose. There is no way it could successfully run a forum of this magnitude such as bitcointalk. It may be the most popular content management platform for simple websites, but forums are quite another story.
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