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cabalism13

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🤩Finally Married🤩

Quote from: Stalker22 on August 15, 2021, 10:47:23 AM

Quote from: cabalism13 on August 12, 2021, 02:13:59 PM

Putting this up on top, interested to hear some news our new forum, as we are almost halfway to end this year now, maybe we can get something out from theymos? 😅 still cool, just curious...

PROGRESS?...

I second that. In just a few months, we will be wrapping up 2021. What is taking so long?
Or have we given up on the whole idea?

I dont think they have given up yet,as they already spent thousnds of dolars here afaik. So it woulnd't be that easy to forfeit this project... let's see maybe someone here in the forum has some clear details.

Stalker22

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Quote from: cabalism13 on August 12, 2021, 02:13:59 PM

Putting this up on top, interested to hear some news our new forum, as we are almost halfway to end this year now, maybe we can get something out from theymos? 😅 still cool, just curious...

PROGRESS?...

I second that. In just a few months, we will be wrapping up 2021. What is taking so long?
Or have we given up on the whole idea?

cabalism13

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🤩Finally Married🤩

Putting this up on top, interested to hear some news our new forum, as we are almost halfway to end this year now, maybe we can get something out from theymos? 😅 still cool, just curious...

PROGRESS?...

cryptied

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Quote from: Wangbus on November 15, 2017, 02:12:17 AM

The choice may have been different if we were to start the project now. But I believe that interfaces are what matters. Also, we kind of didn't have a choice on the frontend. If you would like to see, our migration layer and database schema design is written in Elixir and Ecto. As for JS, there are definitely shortcomings but performance-wise, Node is good enough on the server side for the time being.

Do you have any specific questions?

Just out of curiosity, what would probably be your first choice if you were to start the project now? Would it be Go, Java, something else, ...?

Initscri

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Quote from: ultimul on March 23, 2018, 08:32:46 PM

The upgrade is an very easy process, it will take probably under 1 hour with the actual database size.

Conventionally, yes. To re-program / re-implement features, no.

You're thinking about a standard SMF forum w/o modifications. It's really easy to speak when you don't know the backend of the forum or the context of how it's run.

Your 1hr quote would be the automated/recommend portion of the migration to 2, which I doubt BitcoinTalk could even use w/ all customizations without totally breaking the forum OR requiring further work to fix everything.

Piggy

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I didn't follow the latest development with the new forum, but as i last heard, it was stopped due to some problem between theymos and the developers. I see there is again some activity in github now https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk/pull/458, is the development continuing ?

sdp

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Buyers remorse is worse with bitcoin. I am a guy looks at what he spent to buy a tablet with 0.2 BTC and keep thinking I have a mental disability looking back but then I think of Adam Levine's camera for 30, and Theymos paying 11k for web software and another guy bought two pizzas for the same amount. Money is for spending. It's only a game. I learned a lot by using the tools and services I bought with BTC, and I am glad I had those. It must be disheartening after three years for Theymos but good software can take time.

gollum23

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I rather they take their time and make sure it works well, and it's secure, work is progressing on GitHub so not that they are not working on it either.

whywefight

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www.explorerz.top

Quote from: ultimul on March 23, 2018, 08:32:46 PM

Whatever is the development of new forum, you should definitely update the SMF in the mean time.

The SMF team stopped supporting the 1.1.xx branch, which this forum use now.
Not even the security updates.
https://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=559497.0
Upgrade to 2.0.x branch, it already has built-in lot of demands listed in here.
The upgrade is an very easy process, it will take probably under 1 hour with the actual database size.

the forum is heavily customized and got some checks after the last hack, which was years ago. the fact the "outdated" version isn't killed 5 times a day should say it all Wink

the version number shown here doesn't mean some stuff wasn't backported.

spam

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Quote from: floresjonathan123 on March 17, 2018, 09:18:24 PM

Quote from: bluefirecorp_ on November 10, 2017, 06:22:43 PM

Really? Is beta.bitcointalk.org legit the latest version? It's been 3 years and this is it? What is it being coded in... assembly?

If I remember correctly, the budget for the site was in the tens of thousands of BTC. At today's value, it'd probably be a $50MM bid. I'm thinking the admins were swindled in the bid... I think it should go back open or at least make a more open competition for the new software.

Edit: Found the source. It's freaking Javascript... that's why. Who would want that ungodly mess to manage? ew.

Edit2: https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk for those that can't google.

Just because it's hard work, that doesn't mean it's good work. Given the time frame of the project, and the apparent budget, the progress should be better. Not to mention that there are forum softwares out there that meet the needs to begin with. The theme of the new forum is trash. Plain and simple.

This is cut and paste SPAM.

Quote from: braindeadgenius on December 12, 2017, 05:53:18 AM

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Just because it's hard work, that doesn't mean it's good work. Given the time frame of the project, and the apparent budget, the progress should be better. Not to mention that there are forum softwares out there that meet the needs to begin with. The theme of the new forum is trash. Plain and simple....

ultimul

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Quote from: Vod on March 24, 2018, 08:45:11 AM

Quote from: ultimul on March 23, 2018, 08:32:46 PM

The upgrade is an very easy process, it will take probably under 1 hour with the actual database size.

You have no idea of the number of customizations Theymos has created. The upgrade would take weeks, if it was even possible. :/

probably most of them are for some background activities for admins, mods and others groups;

the front end is SMF plain and simple with very few standard mods available from SMF library;
and I say that because I know SMF very well, I had and still have few forums on SMF platform

anyway not having the security updates from SMF, is not very healthy; if a stupid bug would to be found in the near future could make a problem;
this is not a forum for kids toys, a lot of people have sensitive informations for sure (in private messages sections most probably, but never know)

braindeadgenius

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Quote from: Vod on March 24, 2018, 08:45:11 AM

Quote from: ultimul on March 23, 2018, 08:32:46 PM

The upgrade is an very easy process, it will take probably under 1 hour with the actual database size.

You have no idea of the number of customizations Theymos has created. The upgrade would take weeks, if it was even possible. :/

That's okay, because they've taken years to develop a half-assed forum software. Take your pick.

Vod

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Licking my boob since 1970

Quote from: ultimul on March 23, 2018, 08:32:46 PM

The upgrade is an very easy process, it will take probably under 1 hour with the actual database size.

You have no idea of the number of customizations Theymos has created. The upgrade would take weeks, if it was even possible. :/

ultimul

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Whatever is the development of new forum, you should definitely update the SMF in the mean time.

The SMF team stopped supporting the 1.1.xx branch, which this forum use now.
Not even the security updates.
https://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=559497.0
Upgrade to 2.0.x branch, it already has built-in lot of demands listed in here.
The upgrade is an very easy process, it will take probably under 1 hour with the actual database size.

floresjonathan123

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Quote from: bluefirecorp_ on November 10, 2017, 06:22:43 PM

Really? Is beta.bitcointalk.org legit the latest version? It's been 3 years and this is it? What is it being coded in... assembly?

If I remember correctly, the budget for the site was in the tens of thousands of BTC. At today's value, it'd probably be a $50MM bid. I'm thinking the admins were swindled in the bid... I think it should go back open or at least make a more open competition for the new software.

Edit: Found the source. It's freaking Javascript... that's why. Who would want that ungodly mess to manage? ew.

Edit2: https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk for those that can't google.

Just because it's hard work, that doesn't mean it's good work. Given the time frame of the project, and the apparent budget, the progress should be better. Not to mention that there are forum softwares out there that meet the needs to begin with. The theme of the new forum is trash. Plain and simple.

grendel25

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Progress? No, the opposite of progress. I mean --HUGE-- step backwards with just one function that I used to always use::: The PRINT thread option is GONE. Okay, it's not gone but for anything with more than a few pages we get this lovely message, "The topic is too large to fit on one page."

Sorry if I sound rude and obtuse for not understanding the plight of the managers here. I was given a reason in the past and I understand rationale in favor of server performance and support of many many more users.

BUT... the point is pulling information out of these message boards got exponentially more difficult for me by not being able to print message threads anymore. I could care less about billion dollar forum renovations. I would be happy to simply be able to print thousands of pages from a message thread. I understand there are many like me and that would be a huge demand but surely this is something this mighty website could muster.

Priceslide

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Hello

Quote from: Wangbus on November 15, 2017, 02:12:17 AM

The choice may have been different if we were to start the project now. But I believe that interfaces are what matters. Also, we kind of didn't have a choice on the frontend. If you would like to see, our migration layer and database schema design is written in Elixir and Ecto. As for JS, there are definitely shortcomings but performance-wise, Node is good enough on the server side for the time being.

Do you have any specific questions?

Do you realize how hilariously unbelievable it is that 11k BTC has been donated for new forum software and nothing has changed?

Do you ever feel like you scammed bitcointalk users that donated?

Javascript is slow... why the fuck would you be developing a 100 million dollar forum in javascript? "Good enough," seriously???. With all the bitcoin that was donated this is just insane... 2018 and no new software. Not even an alpha example to go look at.

braindeadgenius

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Quote from: coin@coin on November 25, 2017, 11:35:57 PM

What is the rush? Not like there is no Bitcointalk available? Forum is here and up and running.

Also not that there aren't any users on here as it is... Over 1.3 million accounts and counting.

I rather they take their time and make sure it works well, and it's secure, work is progressing on GitHub so not that they are not working on it either.

Give time to time, a forum with so many users can't just be switched over just like that.

I'm confident once ready we will all see the hardwork that went into it.

Just because it's hard work, that doesn't mean it's good work. Given the time frame of the project, and the apparent budget, the progress should be better. Not to mention that there are forum softwares out there that meet the needs to begin with. The theme of the new forum is trash. Plain and simple. I haven't logged in, so I can't give details on other aspects. But as a developer, I can tell you that progress vs budget vs time is pathetic right now.

dillpicklechips

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Quote from: coin@coin on November 25, 2017, 11:35:57 PM

What is the rush? Not like there is no Bitcointalk available? Forum is here and up and running.

It is a matter of new features for both conveniency and enhaced security.

Quote from: coin@coin on November 25, 2017, 11:35:57 PM

Also not that there aren't any users on here as it is... Over 1.3 million accounts and counting.

That's not the basis. Also, we should count unique users from those 1.3 million accounts.

Quote from: coin@coin on November 25, 2017, 11:35:57 PM

I rather they take their time and make sure it works well, and it's secure, work is progressing on GitHub so not that they are not working on it either.

If you had read above, you should know by now the concerns that will rise up when they take too much time to accomplish the new forum.

Quote from: coin@coin on November 25, 2017, 11:35:57 PM

Give time to time, a forum with so many users can't just be switched over just like that.

Migrating the accounts and details are another thing. As far as I know, they're still developing the website itself.

coin@coin

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What is the rush? Not like there is no Bitcointalk available? Forum is here and up and running.

Also not that there aren't any users on here as it is... Over 1.3 million accounts and counting.

I rather they take their time and make sure it works well, and it's secure, work is progressing on GitHub so not that they are not working on it either.

Give time to time, a forum with so many users can't just be switched over just like that.

I'm confident once ready we will all see the hardwork that went into it.

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