Topic: Q: Should Lauda *really* be a moderator of bitcointalk A: no - page 12. (Read 43401 times)

Wasn't there a joint venture between yourself and TF?

Edit: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12406963

No. You knowingly spread what you knew to be false and misleading information about defcon23.


Yes, I have personally excluded you from my trust list as a result of your failed extortion, no I have not used any of my alts to do this. Others have excluded you from their trust list as well. What I am saying is not false.

Your immaturity is very much showing in your reactions to my posts Lauda

It was TradeFortress that sent you the BTC. The blockchain evidence overwhelmingly supports this.


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It is clear that defcon23 was not acting as an escrow for his own transaction, yet you proclaimed this to be a true statement when you knew it to be false (or at least anyone with 1/2 a brain, and who spends a few minutes looking into the situation would be able to come to this conclusion).

The only person that harmed defcon23's reputation is he himself. His unusual overturning of his own word and the act of calumny/blackmail is what got him in this mess. What they did was irrational at best.

I would be interested in the "evidence" that I "fabricated". Please enlighten me.

If by "multiple people" you mean several of your own alt accounts, then this statement is likely to be true. Why don't you say that this is ​your​ personal reaction, Quickseller? Instead of saying stuff that is obviously either false or strongly bent in order to support your stance?

Yes.

The address that is holding 1,000BTC, and that was giving away BTC to users is 1BfxSuxJqXuizBbTcP238JZY9DT4eqvzJG

The above address received 1,010 BTC via 641b11014a25e305aa075cfd9505435c697602890cc4fb76f27bc7ba95a61a76 from 1Hy1rceh2EaKnAQhGZocTFUGnKFFD3mNG5

The above address received a similar amount of BTC via 938e072318486566a9b8c301b9937052fc25f500ee4d0cea9f4dde07d9614b24 from 13tikBdmMVkyuykDVNmv3tTr8YkVN3Xrut

13tikBdmMVkyuykDVNmv3tTr8YkVN3Xrut is believed to belong to TradeFortress according to this post by malevolent in 2013. I am not 100% certain on his thought process, however a brief look at blockchain transactions around this time makes this seem reasonable.

If you were to believe malevolent, then either TF sent you BTC, or someone purchased ~$500,000 worth of BTC from TF just to giveaway. I would personally doubt the later is what happened.

I was honestly surprised to see this post, so I decided to look into the stance of blackmail/extortion by libertarians (which alligns with theymos' political beliefs).

It looks like the libertarian view on blackmail is that they accept this kind of practice. The article that I read explained that allowing blackmail would make immoral activities more expensive (if you cheat on your wife for example, then you might have to pay an extortion in order to avoid this information from becoming public). The article also mentioned that the normal course of business involves something very similar to blackmail on a regular basis -- an example that it gave was that when someone goes to the grocery store, that the customer will blackmail the store in saying that they will not give the store money for a loaf of bread unless the store gives the customer a loaf a bread, and conversely, the store will blackmail the customer in saying that they will not allow the customer to leave with the loaf of bread unless the customer pays for the bread.

I think the major difference in Lauda's case is that Lauda fabricated evidence (and/or utilized evidence that he knew was fabricated) in order to harm the reputation of defcon23. By proclaiming allegations that Lauda knew to be false, Lauda was actively deceiving others. I also know the libertarian view is to "let the markets work it out", however I believe the market has spoken, as multiple people have questioned the negative trust that Lauda originally left, and multiple people have excluded Lauda from their trust lists.

I don't think I agree with this viewpoint, as I believe that money gained as a result from blackmail/extortion (as is commonly defined) is stolen and does not belong to the receiver. I would argue that the moral response to becoming aware of illegal/unethical activity would be to report such activity.

Do you have any proof for this? Several people (and even the Eater) received coins from this source.

The blockchain trail leads to 2013 to an address potentially connected to TF (Inputs.io hack), but that's not conclusive or the evidence was presented somewhere yet to be seen by me. The story regarding the situation is certainly unusual.

The real idea behind the payment is to fund a lawsuit against a certain individual. I also plan on PGP signing this.

Regardless of if you knew who the payment was coming from at the time, or what the purpose of the payment was, the transaction did in fact come from TF. What you decide to do with it is up to you, and should depend among other things, if you have provided actual services prior to this post in exchange for the payment. I emailed TF asking him why he created that 1kBTC giveaway thread, however I have not received any kind of concrete answer; either way, you cannot deny that you received payment from TF because the blockchain does not lie.

(I can also assure you that you did not receive a "donation" because you "gave 9 lives to kittens").

The payment was a donation from an anonymous party for performing the ritual of giving 9 lives to kittens:

Lauda is now on the payroll of TradeFortress, the infamous inputs.io/coinlenders scammer.

Today Lauda received at least 1 bitcoin from TradeFortress.

Lauda, what is your roll in working for TradeFortress?

I just want to add that Lauda is the hottest internet chic I have ever met and I am glad stuff is as usual while I was away. Reading this whole crap made me laugh tears, thanks for that.

The only question that remains is: Why is she not a global mod and why the hell is Lutpin still on DT?? Looking forward to the PM that tells me this post was deleted!

@OP


So after 13 pages and several months, not a single shred of tangible evidence was posted that Lauda was actually trying to extort anyone....

AND

in these 13 pages not a single reason as to why Lauda should not be a mod.


I agree it's time to lock this thread.



~BCX~

So if I understood you right, quickseller is trying to make problems bigger than they are?
And by the way u should be aware of that betcoin.ag is not a good fompany to promote atm, since many people are talking bad about them. Alot of trusted people have been into trouble for advertising them, so mayby they will be attacking u too, I hope that won't happen for u. Time to close this thread

The most awkward part of this thread is that it's another attempt by QS to troll someone into oblivion using many accounts and trumped up accusations.

It seems like defcon and Lauda really do have some issues that they need to sort out, it also seems like they're working on that.  QS isn't going to close the thread because he's after Lauda for some reason.  Who knows what that is?  Most likely, Lauda refused to be bullied by him sometime or another and that got QS mad and the rest is what we have here in this thread.  Be on the lookout for new threads by other alt accounts as QS typically tries this multiple times.

This thread is going insane, please OP close it since the title is misleading and is not true.
If Lauda is a bad mod, theymos would notice and take actions against him, which he doesn't do so everything should be allright. Don't be pissed at him for a unknown reason.

There won't be any action because there was no attempt by Lauda to extort you.



~BCX~

i dont think this could be possible.

i have left him a message few days ago.... and  i still wait an answer from him yet.

i sincerly woudnt believe theymos is refusing to take any action against lauda for attempting to extort me....   so, let's wait and see..

So theymos  is okay with having a staff member on his team that extorts people?

I stand corrected that it was you that busted Quickseller.




~BCX~

gorgon666 is Quickseller.  This is actually his standard attack.  He uses a newbie account to open an outlandish accusation.  Then, somewhere downthread, he shows up with his main account.  He may also use other accounts, idk.  You can see this in how he used his account newton1 to attack dooglus in two threads at once.  He also did the same thing when he was attacking me, he used at least 4 accounts in that attack.