i think the OP needs to lock this thread because the world cup is over
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I think we all already know that Argentina has won the world cup this year, yesterday's final match was a class match so it will be history for both of them, both teams played well even though in the end the victory was determined by a penalty shootout, congratulations to Argentina
i think the OP needs to lock this thread because the world cup is over
i think the OP needs to lock this thread because the world cup is over
Argentina is celebrating its success in winning the world cup trophy, Messi is one of the happiest figures for this success. Now he has got what he wanted all this time, the demands of the world cup trophy have been fulfilled which is the end of a beautiful story during his career with the Argentina national team. 2026 may no longer have Messi's name in the Argentina squad, but after winning the world cup trophy he had said he still wanted to play as world champion with Argentina.
Celebration season is marked althrough this December period to compliment along with the Yuletide, now it is believed that Messi has achieved his highest pinnacle of career in his football dream ever since he was younger when he had set all these as goals, i believe not only Messi or Argentina will be in this kind of mood alone but France as well even though they didn't win but they have played in a deserving manner for it.
Argentina is celebrating its success in winning the world cup trophy, Messi is one of the happiest figures for this success. Now he has got what he wanted all this time, the demands of the world cup trophy have been fulfilled which is the end of a beautiful story during his career with the Argentina national team. 2026 may no longer have Messi's name in the Argentina squad, but after winning the world cup trophy he had said he still wanted to play as world champion with Argentina.
I would be happier if Messi really committed with his statement. Qatar world cup yesterday, should be his last event to defend the Argentina national team. and because this is the last event, it is this once every 4 yearly event that makes Argentina special. Messi and his colleagues have been through challenge after challenge and yesterday was the peak challenge. believe me, if in yesterday's final the French squad was filled with even more complete players. Argentina's chances are really very slim, and because of that I say that Argentina is lucky. and Messi has got what he wants, then let the younger ones replace him over time they will also hone their talents. Messi only has one more task, yes, to fulfill the club's dream of winning the chanpions league this season. besides that, Mbappe is still an important icon for PSG. Messi and Mbappe must forget about this world cup event, and focus on the league competition.
But by the way, I really appreciate Didier Descamps. because after all, he has succeeded in bringing France to the top of this championship party. and congratulations to Mbappe, who won the top goalscorer award. for Messi, he deserves the title Goat.
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Well, this is something that we all know very well, the only thing is that I think that in the semifinals things got very rough, where without a doubt Argentina and France set the example, and the semifinals cannot be denied, but they were super exciting , my dream ending was that CR7 could arrive with Portugal, and having seen CR7 vs Messi, since they have received a lot of criticism, but things always happen for a reason and if everything happened like this it is because it had to have happened like that, the champion Argentina was indisputably one of the most promising, the bets were almost equal, both for Argentina and for France they were equal.
Well, this is something that we all know very well, the only thing is that I think that in the semifinals things got very rough, where without a doubt Argentina and France set the example, and the semifinals cannot be denied, but they were super exciting , my dream ending was that CR7 could arrive with Portugal, and having seen CR7 vs Messi, since they have received a lot of criticism, but things always happen for a reason and if everything happened like this it is because it had to have happened like that, the champion Argentina was indisputably one of the most promising, the bets were almost equal, both for Argentina and for France they were equal.
I think most of the world kinda hoped that Messi retired with the world cup trophy.
It was like a happy ending of a story, everyone loves a happy ending
And now we just need to wait four more years to see the next version of the world cup, with many more teams qualified, and in North America: Canada, USA, and Mexico will be hosting it in 2026.
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Yes 2026 tournament will be a great tournament, because many of the teams that did not play for the year edition will play in the 2026 version. But this one you mentioned China, I have not seen china played in a world not even in the qualification stage including India. These two countries are always excepted. I think because of their inability to quantify at the qualification level that making then not to appear in the world cup tournaments.
Yes 2026 tournament will be a great tournament, because many of the teams that did not play for the year edition will play in the 2026 version. But this one you mentioned China, I have not seen china played in a world not even in the qualification stage including India. These two countries are always excepted. I think because of their inability to quantify at the qualification level that making then not to appear in the world cup tournaments.
Yeah, one thing some people forget is that the world cup is an incredibly competitive tournament.
Even Italy failed to qualify for Qatar 2022.
So it's not really the case that FIFA doesn't like certain countries, or things like that, it's actually that Europe and South America consistently produce the best teams for the competition, and therefore end up winning the most trophies.
If anything, I could argue that Europe and South America should have even more slots than what they have at the moment, as many talented countries from there couldn't qualify.
You forgot to mention that Italy failed to qualify for the World Cup for the second time in a row, which is clearly not a coincidence but an indicator of the crisis of Italian national football.
As for the rest, the European and South American national teams are still better than the national teams from other continents and achieve better and better results at the world championships, but this difference is getting smaller and smaller at each world championship, and the Asian and African national teams achieve better and better results at each the next world championship.
It is no coincidence that South Korea was fourth at the 2002 World Cup and Morocco fourth at this World Cup.
And in the future, there will be even more successes like this of Asian and African national teams.
I think most of the world kinda hoped that Messi retired with the world cup trophy.
It was like a happy ending of a story, everyone loves a happy ending
And now we just need to wait four more years to see the next version of the world cup, with many more teams qualified, and in North America: Canada, USA, and Mexico will be hosting it in 2026.
It was like a happy ending of a story, everyone loves a happy ending
And now we just need to wait four more years to see the next version of the world cup, with many more teams qualified, and in North America: Canada, USA, and Mexico will be hosting it in 2026.
I am super-excited for the 2026 edition. There will be a total of 48 teams and we can expect more and more upsets against the top teams. And there will be a lot more diversity, with additional teams from Africa, Asia and Oceania. Teams such as New Zealand and Nigeria deserves to be in the world cup, and so does China and Indonesia. Let the FIFA world cup be more representative. The current format gives too much importance to teams from UEFA and CONMEBOL. There is a lot of talent in Asia and Africa, and it will be showcased during the 2026 edition.
@Agbe it seems that Messi doesn’t wishes to retire from playing for Argentina for a while at least, but there’s no way possible for him to play for Argentina at the next World Cup hence they should immediately start planning for his replacement for the 2026 World Cup.
Furthermore I brought this up before and I’ll repeat again i.e. will fan’s really be happy to see so many team’s, because I personally feel that it’ll make the World Cup boring to watch as there’ll be too many one sided matches.
Of the 16 teams remaining in the 2022 World Cup tournament I think we have seen their technique and play during the group stage. Most likely I see a potential team that will enter the final round is a team from Europe and a team from Conmebol namely France vs Brazil.
In my opinion, these two teams appeared quite promising and met the criteria I wanted so far, even though they both lost in their last match.
France and Brazil are my most likely scenarios.
In my opinion, these two teams appeared quite promising and met the criteria I wanted so far, even though they both lost in their last match.
France and Brazil are my most likely scenarios.
Yes, in reality the same final of France 98 can be presented, but we also cannot forget that in that same key you can meet Argentina, and a Brazil vs Argentina could be very likely, in fact this reminds me when I read in a article when an Artificial Intelligence had predicted that Argentina and Portugal were going to reach the final and that the final would be won by Argentina, of course this is something that is not certain, but if this is true it is something very strange and I don't know if can you call it coincidence?
For the forecasts of this World Cup it is necessary that we take into account many possibilities, because there are teams that surprised and that can continue to surprise, one of them is Japan, and they can really surprise another.
Japan boss responds to controversial World Cup goal vs Spain that sent Germany packing
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Japan faced elimination at half-time, with Spain and Germany both 1-0 ahead in their fixtures. However, Moriyasu changed the game with two substitutions at the break, bringing on Ritsu Doan and Kaoru Mitomo. Doan equalised with a fizzed strike from range before Mitomo provided the assist for Ao Tanaka's go-ahead goal just over two minutes later.
Source: https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1704360/Japan-goal-Hajime-Moriyasu-World-Cup-news-Spain-Germany-FIFA-Qatar
We cannot forget that the controversial goal against Spain was something that changed the whole panorama, in fact, all the teams that seem to be favourites, all lost 1 game at least, those including Brazil who lost to Cameroon, something that I think is very Strange, no country had the perfect score.
In any case, this World Cup is strange for many, but taking into account that in football anything can happen, it means that football in other parts of the world has been growing greatly, now the level is higher and this is very well, new emotions are developed, many people dream of actually winning the world cup.
I believe that Brazil will definitely reach the finals, and now I heard that Neymar is also almost back that just makes them even more stronger. Also then there’re the two unpredictable team’s i.e. England and Japan they can cause upsets and probably advance to the next round so keep an eye on them, and lastly do you’ll feel that Netherland can reach the final’s because I personally don’t feel so?.
Besides, no one would watch Argentina vs France match and will not say that France deserved the winning. I wouldn't give them the praise in the first minutes of the match, but the later parts of the second half changed the whole narrative, but it was too late when they geared up. Maybe the coach and the captain did not task the players as needed for such a crucial match before the start of it as they did not have the will and determination Argentina had.
This cost them the cup, though it's another lesson for them much.
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Yes 2026 tournament will be a great tournament, because many of the teams that did not play for the year edition will play in the 2026 version. But this one you mentioned China, I have not seen china played in a world not even in the qualification stage including India. These two countries are always excepted. I think because of their inability to quantify at the qualification level that making then not to appear in the world cup tournaments.
Yes 2026 tournament will be a great tournament, because many of the teams that did not play for the year edition will play in the 2026 version. But this one you mentioned China, I have not seen china played in a world not even in the qualification stage including India. These two countries are always excepted. I think because of their inability to quantify at the qualification level that making then not to appear in the world cup tournaments.
Yeah, one thing some people forget is that the world cup is an incredibly competitive tournament.
Even Italy failed to qualify for Qatar 2022.
So it's not really the case that FIFA doesn't like certain countries, or things like that, it's actually that Europe and South America consistently produce the best teams for the competition, and therefore end up winning the most trophies.
If anything, I could argue that Europe and South America should have even more slots than what they have at the moment, as many talented countries from there couldn't qualify.
I think most of the world kinda hoped that Messi retired with the world cup trophy.
It was like a happy ending of a story, everyone loves a happy ending
And now we just need to wait four more years to see the next version of the world cup, with many more teams qualified, and in North America: Canada, USA, and Mexico will be hosting it in 2026.
It was like a happy ending of a story, everyone loves a happy ending
And now we just need to wait four more years to see the next version of the world cup, with many more teams qualified, and in North America: Canada, USA, and Mexico will be hosting it in 2026.
I am super-excited for the 2026 edition. There will be a total of 48 teams and we can expect more and more upsets against the top teams. And there will be a lot more diversity, with additional teams from Africa, Asia and Oceania. Teams such as New Zealand and Nigeria deserves to be in the world cup, and so does China and Indonesia. Let the FIFA world cup be more representative. The current format gives too much importance to teams from UEFA and CONMEBOL. There is a lot of talent in Asia and Africa, and it will be showcased during the 2026 edition.
I think most of the world kinda hoped that Messi retired with the world cup trophy.
It was like a happy ending of a story, everyone loves a happy ending
And now we just need to wait four more years to see the next version of the world cup, with many more teams qualified, and in North America: Canada, USA, and Mexico will be hosting it in 2026.
It was like a happy ending of a story, everyone loves a happy ending
And now we just need to wait four more years to see the next version of the world cup, with many more teams qualified, and in North America: Canada, USA, and Mexico will be hosting it in 2026.
I am super-excited for the 2026 edition. There will be a total of 48 teams and we can expect more and more upsets against the top teams. And there will be a lot more diversity, with additional teams from Africa, Asia and Oceania. Teams such as New Zealand and Nigeria deserves to be in the world cup, and so does China and Indonesia. Let the FIFA world cup be more representative. The current format gives too much importance to teams from UEFA and CONMEBOL. There is a lot of talent in Asia and Africa, and it will be showcased during the 2026 edition.
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Well, this is something that we all know very well, the only thing is that I think that in the semifinals things got very rough, where without a doubt Argentina and France set the example, and the semifinals cannot be denied, but they were super exciting , my dream ending was that CR7 could arrive with Portugal, and having seen CR7 vs Messi, since they have received a lot of criticism, but things always happen for a reason and if everything happened like this it is because it had to have happened like that, the champion Argentina was indisputably one of the most promising, the bets were almost equal, both for Argentina and for France they were equal.
Well, this is something that we all know very well, the only thing is that I think that in the semifinals things got very rough, where without a doubt Argentina and France set the example, and the semifinals cannot be denied, but they were super exciting , my dream ending was that CR7 could arrive with Portugal, and having seen CR7 vs Messi, since they have received a lot of criticism, but things always happen for a reason and if everything happened like this it is because it had to have happened like that, the champion Argentina was indisputably one of the most promising, the bets were almost equal, both for Argentina and for France they were equal.
I think most of the world kinda hoped that Messi retired with the world cup trophy.
It was like a happy ending of a story, everyone loves a happy ending
And now we just need to wait four more years to see the next version of the world cup, with many more teams qualified, and in North America: Canada, USA, and Mexico will be hosting it in 2026.
There is some confusion related to the next edition (2026 world cup). FIFA was initially planning to have a total of 48 teams, with 3 teams in each group. But Qatar 2022 has shown that having groups with 4 teams each can increase fan interest and competitiveness. So they are having a rethink. There is a good chance that the 48 teams will be divided in to 12 groups of 4 each. But in that case, there will be a lot more matches and the duration of the tournament may get extended. I am OK with this, but some people say that if the duration get extended, then it will make the tournament more boring.
Of the 16 teams remaining in the 2022 World Cup tournament I think we have seen their technique and play during the group stage. Most likely I see a potential team that will enter the final round is a team from Europe and a team from Conmebol namely France vs Brazil.
In my opinion, these two teams appeared quite promising and met the criteria I wanted so far, even though they both lost in their last match.
France and Brazil are my most likely scenarios.
In my opinion, these two teams appeared quite promising and met the criteria I wanted so far, even though they both lost in their last match.
France and Brazil are my most likely scenarios.
Yes, in reality the same final of France 98 can be presented, but we also cannot forget that in that same key you can meet Argentina, and a Brazil vs Argentina could be very likely, in fact this reminds me when I read in a article when an Artificial Intelligence had predicted that Argentina and Portugal were going to reach the final and that the final would be won by Argentina, of course this is something that is not certain, but if this is true it is something very strange and I don't know if can you call it coincidence?
For the forecasts of this World Cup it is necessary that we take into account many possibilities, because there are teams that surprised and that can continue to surprise, one of them is Japan, and they can really surprise another.
Japan boss responds to controversial World Cup goal vs Spain that sent Germany packing
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Japan faced elimination at half-time, with Spain and Germany both 1-0 ahead in their fixtures. However, Moriyasu changed the game with two substitutions at the break, bringing on Ritsu Doan and Kaoru Mitomo. Doan equalised with a fizzed strike from range before Mitomo provided the assist for Ao Tanaka's go-ahead goal just over two minutes later.
Source: https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1704360/Japan-goal-Hajime-Moriyasu-World-Cup-news-Spain-Germany-FIFA-Qatar
We cannot forget that the controversial goal against Spain was something that changed the whole panorama, in fact, all the teams that seem to be favourites, all lost 1 game at least, those including Brazil who lost to Cameroon, something that I think is very Strange, no country had the perfect score.
In any case, this World Cup is strange for many, but taking into account that in football anything can happen, it means that football in other parts of the world has been growing greatly, now the level is higher and this is very well, new emotions are developed, many people dream of actually winning the world cup.
I believe that Brazil will definitely reach the finals, and now I heard that Neymar is also almost back that just makes them even more stronger. Also then there’re the two unpredictable team’s i.e. England and Japan they can cause upsets and probably advance to the next round so keep an eye on them, and lastly do you’ll feel that Netherland can reach the final’s because I personally don’t feel so?.
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We must not forget. It is a game where no reputation is worth anything if there is no good performance on the field. Football fans' passion for Messi often overshadows even a strong team like France, but it is worthless in reality. Last year's World Cup champion France cannot be tied down with emotion. May be Messi's last World Cup but if they don't score on the field, the last World Cup will also go in favor of France. Messi deserves the trophy but it remains to be seen how prepared the whole team.
We must not forget. It is a game where no reputation is worth anything if there is no good performance on the field. Football fans' passion for Messi often overshadows even a strong team like France, but it is worthless in reality. Last year's World Cup champion France cannot be tied down with emotion. May be Messi's last World Cup but if they don't score on the field, the last World Cup will also go in favor of France. Messi deserves the trophy but it remains to be seen how prepared the whole team.
Absolutely.
I want to see Messi lift the trophy, but for that to happen he must perform, and be a legend in the field, scoring at the final, where it counts.
Otherwise it will be France the one who wins.
They might win against France on Sunday, they are desperate, resilient and also have all what it takes.
Most of the predictions and support for the Qatar World Cup lead to Brazil, but Brazil left the gridiron faster after losing to Croatia. But for now, France and Argentina are playing in the final. Most predict that Argentina will win the match on the grounds of Argentina's star player, namely Lionel Messi. But we must not forget that in France there are also star players, even much younger than the Argentinian star. Even France can play well from the group stage to the final without Karim Benzema. So, I think this year's world cup final goes to the defending champion, namely France.
They might win against France on Sunday, they are desperate, resilient and also have all what it takes.
Most of the predictions and support for the Qatar World Cup lead to Brazil, but Brazil left the gridiron faster after losing to Croatia. But for now, France and Argentina are playing in the final. Most predict that Argentina will win the match on the grounds of Argentina's star player, namely Lionel Messi. But we must not forget that in France there are also star players, even much younger than the Argentinian star. Even France can play well from the group stage to the final without Karim Benzema. So, I think this year's world cup final goes to the defending champion, namely France. 
Yeah... everyone was waiting for the Brazil vs Argentina clash. As per the schedule, these two teams were supposed to meet each other during the first semi-final. But Brazil never managed to qualify for the semi-final, as they lost out to Croatia in the quarter-final. On the other hand Argentina managed to get past much tougher opponents (Netherlands) in the quarter-final match. And now coming to Neymar, I don't care whether he stops his international career or not. He should have focused on football rather than making controversial comments about politics back home.
Argentina and Brazil are the most criticized worldwide. And they have the most supporters. So everyone wants Argentina and Brazil to play a match together and see which team is stronger and which team can win. But this is not happening at all. According to the schedule this year, Argentina and Brazil had a chance to play in the semi-finals, but it was not possible due to the defeat of Brazil Against croatia . But if this is possible in the future World Cup then it will be from a vacuum since Messi will not play in the World Cup again from this yearOverall both these teams have played a total of 104 matches, where Argentina won 40 matches, while brazil won 43 matches. 26 matches were drawn between them. Seeing these stats it seems that no team is a clear winner here.
By the way, I loved to watch Brazil in the semi final but Croatia's win didn't let this match take place.
They might win against France on Sunday, they are desperate, resilient and also have all what it takes.
I think that this Argentina versus Brazil rival has been going on since the commencement of football.
We know that Brazil have won 5 World Cups and Argentina have won two.
But in this modern age of football, I think the teams are quite equal.
Yes if you look at the teams on paper I think Brazil have better players in numbers.
But Argentina have the GOAT Messi.
As you said I think Argentina won the last tournament and they are also right now in the finals of the World Cup.
So, if you talk about recent times, I mean very recent times, I think we can evidently say that Argentina is a little bit better than Brazil.
I just hope Argentina wins this one. France has already won the previous Cup and Messi deserves the victory after so many years of playing and trying hard. Sometimes playing alone and carrying the team on his back for his nation.
I am not a fan of the Messi-Ronaldo feud, but after watching this World Cup so far and seeing how far Messi has come with his team, he deserves to win the World Cup and add to his football achievements. This is his final World Cup appearance, and I want him to win it. However, given the quality of both teams, predicting a winner in this final match will be extremely difficult. Argentina will need to put in more effort than they have in the past to win this game.
I don't think it's necessary for anyone to consider the impact of Messi in this World cup tournament without bringing the full Argentina squad in frontlines, no doubt Messi contributed so well to help his country but his teammates must also be applauded for doing an excellent job in the field because without them Messi can not do it alone.
Now considering the achievements of Messi in his football career, Messi has been the all round leading world best player an award that most great players are yet to receive till they retire so it doesn't matter if Messi ends his career without a world cup trophy or not but his name and that of Ronaldo who is yet to win the World cup will always be remembered in the history of football. The game will be a great fight tomorrow between Messi and his team mate Mbappe I hope they don't fight even as one team will go home with the trophy.
That was the match I was rooting for the most, Brazil vs Argentina are two huge rivals and it would have been awesome to watch the two teams meeting each other. Same as Spain vs Portugal, would have been a nice rival match as well. For my initial predictions for the finals at the start of the worldcup I expected France to play against Brazil. I had three small bets placed on Brazil, France and England to win the title this year. So I am already hedged in case France is going to pull it off. But my large bet I am going to be placing on Argentina. Both teams are pretty equal and the match could go either way, but I do think Argentina is more hyped to pull it off. Messi has been fighting for so long to get a worldcup title that it feels like his year now. It's going to be a nice match to watch tomorrow. And then there is also the game for the third place today. I expect Croatia to win, but not sure if I will place a small bet before the match.
That is a problem for Brazil, if Brazil lost to Croatia then it is normal for Argentina to win an easy game against them. If Brazil moved up, maybe they could have beaten Argentina, just because Brazil lost to Croatia and Croatia lost to Argentina doesn't mean that Brazil would have lost to Argentina neither, that is not how football works, everyday is a different day.However, they lost that chance when they failed to score for so long, and even worse is they couldn't defend, if I was Brazil, I would have put all 10 players into defence and if there were any subsititon left then get defenders right away. Instead they kept on attacking, a huge huge amateur level mistake.
If Argentina loses tomorrow, it will favor Mbape, who will go down in history as the only player to have won two consecutive World Cups for France.
This is true for tomorrow's match because France won last world cup with Mbappe after beating Croatia 4-2 but Mbappe is not the only player in France that was in the squad of last world cup. Whichever way there will be history made tomorrow either from France or Argentina. Messi will surely be the happiest person on it if he won it. The records however favours Argentina to win having met three times, Argentina won twice
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