Fundamentally there is no issue with escrowing someone's own trade. When someone gets an escrow, they are paying for a guarantee (upheld based on someone's reputation) that they won't be scammed. Escrowing your own trade's while not disclosing that *could* be perceived as shady, but it's actually not in reality. Reputable sellers often can sell for a price premium, which is partially based on the fees saved from not having to escrow. The buyer just paid for this "reputation premium" through escrow fees instead.
As for the original post in this thread, the data modelling is completely worthless as it has clearly been contaminated with confirmation bias. OP is a scammer and he should have a negative trust rating.
As for Quickseller faking a ban... meh. I would not say xyr's a scammer or deserve negative feedback because of it, but it's understandable why certain people like BadBear would no longer hold xyr into his DefaultTrust list.
Topic: Quickseller escrowing for himself - page 13. (Read 33671 times)
lol no I just do it for the cost of the Tx.
In other words the seller pays for it?
Hey man... I'm all for making moves and bending shit, but god damn that seems shitty.
Esp when you spend as much time busting peoples nuts as you used to until QS came along.
so isnt it like buying positive feedback and/or stealing extra bucks from the person who used you as escrow and trusted you with their money thinking you are a "third party"?
Furthermore, you are additional comfortable with the transaction because you know the escrow is going to stake their reputation on the outcome being fair, so even if they are biased in any dispute, an unfair resolution to an escrowed deal means that their reputation will suffer.
Come on now, you could just have used your main account from the start to do the transaction instead of using an alt account and then this one for escrowing, i dont see the point other than trying to make your other accout more trusted
A third reason may be that I am wanting to sell an item at a price that is meant to move quickly (eg I need money quickly), and I do not wish to disclose my immediate need for money. I do not think it would be unreasonable to use an alt to hide this fact. This has never been the case for me personally, however I am trying to list legitimate reasons.
lol no I just do it for the cost of the Tx.
In other words the seller pays for it?
Hey man... I'm all for making moves and bending shit, but god damn that seems shitty.
Esp when you spend as much time busting peoples nuts as you used to until QS came along.
so isnt it like buying positive feedback and/or stealing extra bucks from the person who used you as escrow and trusted you with their money thinking you are a "third party"?
Furthermore, you are additional comfortable with the transaction because you know the escrow is going to stake their reputation on the outcome being fair, so even if they are biased in any dispute, an unfair resolution to an escrowed deal means that their reputation will suffer.
Come on now, you could just have used your main account from the start to do the transaction instead of using an alt account and then this one for escrowing, i dont see the point other than trying to make your other accout more trusted
lol no I just do it for the cost of the Tx.
In other words the seller pays for it?
Hey man... I'm all for making moves and bending shit, but god damn that seems shitty.
Esp when you spend as much time busting peoples nuts as you used to until QS came along.
so isnt it like buying positive feedback and/or stealing extra bucks from the person who used you as escrow and trusted you with their money thinking you are a "third party"?
Furthermore, you are additional comfortable with the transaction because you know the escrow is going to stake their reputation on the outcome being fair, so even if they are biased in any dispute, an unfair resolution to an escrowed deal means that their reputation will suffer.
lol no I just do it for the cost of the Tx.
In other words the seller pays for it?
Hey man... I'm all for making moves and bending shit, but god damn that seems shitty.
Esp when you spend as much time busting peoples nuts as you used to until QS came along.
so isnt it like buying positive feedback and/or stealing extra bucks from the person who used you as escrow and trusted you with their money thinking you are a "third party"?
Lying about being banned and not doing escrow how it's supposed to be done (with a neutral third party) is shady at best and I've left a negative accordingly. I trust(ed) you QS and I don't mind (too much) if people have alt accounts, but stuff like this I just can't accept. I might change my rating to a neutral in the future, but for now it will stay as it is.
The stuff about TC is something I'll have to read into. I'm not done yet.
The stuff about TC is something I'll have to read into. I'm not done yet.
TC is a nice guy and A+ escrow
(5btc risked, months ago, buying graphic cards)
What happened?
(5btc risked, months ago, buying graphic cards)
What happened?
Not the response I was expecting..
Even if your story is believable (
), you are still controlling all parts of the trade in terms of extraKrispy's side and escrow side. The middleman is supposed to be a third party. You may have been doing it on his behalf, but you are still in control of the coins and trade.
Even if your story is believable (
), you are still controlling all parts of the trade in terms of extraKrispy's side and escrow side. The middleman is supposed to be a third party. You may have been doing it on his behalf, but you are still in control of the coins and trade.Not that I really care, but just out of curiosity, what were you expecting?
If you didn't care you wouldnt reply
I was expecting you to be straight up and say it was an alt of yours that you were using for trade. You gave positive trust so that it would be easier to trade and the other person would send first. That's a logical response. When I look through the profile I see high volume trades which a personal in financial trouble who was living with you, probably wouldn't be doing. Again, I think you are trustworthy and a valuable member of this community. I just don't like seeing double standards as I think QS has done a good job combating scams as well.
Okay, this is just mind blowing me on another level.
Since if a reputable huge escrow is not no longer a reasonable solution to me, then who is?
Since if a reputable huge escrow is not no longer a reasonable solution to me, then who is?
Stick to IRL cod deals mate.
Okay, this is just mind blowing me on another level.
Since if a reputable huge escrow is not no longer a reasonable solution to me, then who is?
Since if a reputable huge escrow is not no longer a reasonable solution to me, then who is?
It does not matter who pays for the escrow. A financially rational person will care about how much money leaves their wallet (or how much money goes into their wallet). They will not care that a portion of the money from/to the other party goes to an escrow service.
Right, especially when you're the escrow service that the other person is blithely paying into. I think I can see how your philosophy works and I'm pretty sure it explains a lot about your character traits we've observed.
Lets see how high we can bump his scoreI agree he probably should not have been negative, but I do not agree with all the given trust to offset it. The Dooglus loan + use of positive trusts etc... To me that is not how I view the trust system to be used. Anyways I am glad it is finally resolved.
lol no I just do it for the cost of the Tx.
In other words the seller pays for it?
Hey man... I'm all for making moves and bending shit, but god damn that seems shitty.
Esp when you spend as much time busting peoples nuts as you used to until QS came along.
That was supposed to be a joke
And I'm not bending shit, merely escrowing for a friend (and I believe you have some experience in that area as well). I'll PM you with more details.And as expected:
SOLD Accepting Western Union or Walmart2Walmart money transfer. I'll pay any escrow fees.
https://blockchain.info/address/1P5PZNLjYbq3EahyYhJcNXAXERaS8GTcTT
I'm going to sleep on it for tonight. I'll respond to your PM tomorrow.
It does not matter who pays for the escrow. A financially rational person will care about how much money leaves their wallet (or how much money goes into their wallet). They will not care that a portion of the money from/to the other party goes to an escrow service.
Right, especially when you're the escrow service that the other person is blithely paying into. I think I can see how your philosophy works and I'm pretty sure it explains a lot about your character traits we've observed.
lol no I just do it for the cost of the Tx.
In other words the seller pays for it?
Hey man... I'm all for making moves and bending shit, but god damn that seems shitty.
Esp when you spend as much time busting peoples nuts as you used to until QS came along.
Such a straw man argument. If escrow isn't held by a third party it's not escrow.
You should stop washing your opinion over any arguement posed towards your actions. Sometimes there's a need to accept mistakes you know. Just the fact that something was justified in your eyes doesn't mean it should be right for everyone.
lol no I just do it for the cost of the Tx.
In other words the seller pays for it?
Hey man... I'm all for making moves and bending shit, but god damn that seems shitty.
Esp when you spend as much time busting peoples nuts as you used to until QS came along.
lol no I just do it for the cost of the Tx.
In other words the seller pays for it?
Hey man... I'm all for making moves and bending shit, but god damn that seems shitty.
Esp when you spend as much time busting peoples nuts as you used to until QS came along.
That was supposed to be a joke
And I'm not bending shit, merely escrowing for a friend (and I believe you have some experience in that area as well). I'll PM you with more details.
no offense but since Tomatocage and Quickseller abuses the trust system giving their alt accounts positive feedback when using their main account as escrow, should them be still in the default trust list? i think their doing things like that to sell the account in much higher price and will use their main account again for additional escrow fees
lol no I just do it for the cost of the Tx.
In other words the seller pays for it?
Hey man... I'm all for making moves and bending shit, but god damn that seems shitty.
Esp when you spend as much time busting peoples nuts as you used to until QS came along.
lol no I just do it for the cost of the Tx.
Or how about this one:
I actually created this account as an alt of my main so I could talk shit to other people without tarnishing the rep of my primary account.
Do you offer your 1% escrow service for your main alt too?
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