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legendary
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September 08, 2015, 07:24:01 PM
@Vod: so if I understand you correctly, escrowing for yourself is okay as long as you don't charge a fee?

Wonder who else is doing this.
copper member
Activity: 2996
Merit: 2374
September 08, 2015, 07:23:34 PM
Requested a refund from Quickseller and received it almost instantly with no complaints from him at all. Very trusted user in my book. Will definitely be dealing with him in the future. Definitely. Very cool guy. Doesn't deserve to be treated like he's trying to scam. That is most definitely not the case.

QS lied and he should be giving refunds to everyone he scammed without them having to ask.
Kindly point to the post in which I said this.
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
September 08, 2015, 07:19:04 PM
Requested a refund from Quickseller and received it almost instantly with no complaints from him at all. Very trusted user in my book. Will definitely be dealing with him in the future. Definitely. Very cool guy. Doesn't deserve to be treated like he's trying to scam. That is most definitely not the case.

QS lied and he should be giving refunds to everyone he scammed without them having to ask.

Imagine you went out and bought a used car from QS.  QS guys it came with a warranty and gives you a sealed envelope.  Tells you only he can open it for the warranty to be valid.

Your friend, based on your positive experience, goes and buys a used car from same guy and gets same envelope.  His car breaks down, he goes in for warranty work and it turns out his envelope is empty!

You hear about this, you open your envelope and find out it is empty too!

QS offers your money back for the warranty, since it was a scam.

You tell the world how honest QS is and how you would deal with him in the future.

 Huh
legendary
Activity: 1162
Merit: 1001
September 08, 2015, 07:17:19 PM
Why the double standard?

Tomatocage did the same thing with his alt extraKrispy but he has seen as one of the most trustworthy people here

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sold-200-btc-bitstamp-5-793183

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=257307

I'm not saying I don't trust tomatocage but what's the deal with double standards and witch hunts?

Well, Krispy really is an actual person, though I admit I probably (accidentally) posted from his account as much as he actually did. Dude is a co-worker who was having some bad luck, so I rented out my guest room to him. Those coins that I escrowed for mysel.. oops I mean Krispy really were his coins though. Very convenient explanation, right? I wish it made for a more exciting story, but that's pretty much all there was to it.

Not the response I was expecting..

Even if your story is believable ( Roll Eyes), you are still controlling all parts of the trade in terms of extraKrispy's side and escrow side. The middleman is supposed to be a third party. You may have been doing it on his behalf, but you are still in control of the coins and trade.

copper member
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September 08, 2015, 07:12:33 PM
did you at any time escrow for yourself yes or no?
if no i'd remove my neg-rate. i trust you enough to be honest about that.

I don't sell coins, so no. Though if you wanted to make anything from it, I have released escrow using one of my exchange accounts since I don't always have access to my escrow box, and then simply pocketed the funds held in the actual escrow address.

removed, sorry for the misunderstanding then...
everybody is allowed to make mistakes (eg forget to logout)
You believed that over my explanation Huh

your explanation was that you dont want anybody to know your real address?
this is not an explanation... it is an excuse...you could just have just another escrow which is completely unrelated to any of your alts?
You really are not very smart.....How do you know that Panthers52 is not a co-worker of mine who needed a couch to sleep on for a few days, and wanted to buy some coins, and trusted me enough to hold escrow for him? How do you know that I didn't sometimes let him use my computer to access the forum, and that he might have sometimes left his account logged in, and I might have accidentally posted from that account sometimes with my own posting style?

Holy shit, QS, you are just bat shit dead nuts crazy, as well as a complete asshole to people. Unless of course my sarcasm detector has malfunctioned.  Roll Eyes
Thanks for the insight doog.

Shouldn't you be busy laundering money somewhere or using your various alts shilling against scrypt.cc?
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1081
I may write code in exchange for bitcoins.
September 08, 2015, 07:12:26 PM
Why don't you explain exactly how escrowing for yourself is a scam? Is someone loosing money because of this? Is someone running away with someone else's money?

ooh, ooh, pick me.  I know this one.

It's that when you pay an escrow, you're paying for a neutral, third party.  When it turns out that the "escrow" was secretly the same person as the one you wanted a third party to protect you from, you just paid for a service you didn't receive!

Note: I cheated on this answer and looked upthread.
full member
Activity: 205
Merit: 100
September 08, 2015, 07:10:32 PM
did you at any time escrow for yourself yes or no?
if no i'd remove my neg-rate. i trust you enough to be honest about that.

I don't sell coins, so no. Though if you wanted to make anything from it, I have released escrow using one of my exchange accounts since I don't always have access to my escrow box, and then simply pocketed the funds held in the actual escrow address.

removed, sorry for the misunderstanding then...
everybody is allowed to make mistakes (eg forget to logout)
You believed that over my explanation Huh

your explanation was that you dont want anybody to know your real address?
this is not an explanation... it is an excuse...you could just have just another escrow which is completely unrelated to any of your alts?
You really are not very smart.....How do you know that Panthers52 is not a co-worker of mine who needed a couch to sleep on for a few days, and wanted to buy some coins, and trusted me enough to hold escrow for him? How do you know that I didn't sometimes let him use my computer to access the forum, and that he might have sometimes left his account logged in, and I might have accidentally posted from that account sometimes with my own posting style?

Holy shit, QS, you are just bat shit dead nuts crazy, as well as a complete asshole to people. Unless of course my sarcasm detector has malfunctioned.  Roll Eyes
copper member
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September 08, 2015, 07:07:50 PM
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your explanation was that you dont want anybody to know your real address?
this is not an explanation... it is an excuse...you could just have just another escrow which is completely unrelated to any of your alts?
You really are not very smart.....How do you know that Panthers52 is not a co-worker of mine who needed a couch to sleep on for a few days, and wanted to buy some coins, and trusted me enough to hold escrow for him? How do you know that I didn't sometimes let him use my computer to access the forum, and that he might have sometimes left his account logged in, and I might have accidentally posted from that account sometimes with my own posting style?

 Roll Eyes
Why don't you explain exactly how escrowing for yourself is a scam? Is someone loosing money because of this? Is someone running away with someone else's money?


FYI - while you are giving out negative trust, I would suggest that you leave a negative rating for your friend who is giving out reputation loans to others.....
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 251
September 08, 2015, 07:06:03 PM
did you at any time escrow for yourself yes or no?
if no i'd remove my neg-rate. i trust you enough to be honest about that.

I don't sell coins, so no. Though if you wanted to make anything from it, I have released escrow using one of my exchange accounts since I don't always have access to my escrow box, and then simply pocketed the funds held in the actual escrow address.

removed, sorry for the misunderstanding then...
everybody is allowed to make mistakes (eg forget to logout)
You believed that over my explanation Huh

your explanation was that you dont want anybody to know your real address?
this is not an explanation... it is an excuse...you could just have just another escrow which is completely unrelated to any of your alts?
You really are not very smart.....How do you know that Panthers52 is not a co-worker of mine who needed a couch to sleep on for a few days, and wanted to buy some coins, and trusted me enough to hold escrow for him? How do you know that I didn't sometimes let him use my computer to access the forum, and that he might have sometimes left his account logged in, and I might have accidentally posted from that account sometimes with my own posting style?

first, because you said that you dont want to share your address: which was your reasoning.
you said that you escrow for your own alts: why shouldnt i believe you this? i never said that Panthers52 is your alt (i dont really care).

second, i simply dont trust you - hence why i left a neutral rating a few month ago
legendary
Activity: 4004
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Owner at AltQuick.com
September 08, 2015, 07:03:44 PM
You really are not very smart.....How do you know that Panthers52 is not a co-worker of mine who needed a couch to sleep on for a few days, and wanted to buy some coins, and trusted me enough to hold escrow for him? How do you know that I didn't sometimes let him use my computer to access the forum, and that he might have sometimes left his account logged in, and I might have accidentally posted from that account sometimes with my own posting style?

 Roll Eyes
legendary
Activity: 4004
Merit: 1250
Owner at AltQuick.com
September 08, 2015, 07:03:13 PM
Why the double standard?

Tomatocage did the same thing with his alt extraKrispy but he has seen as one of the most trustworthy people here

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sold-200-btc-bitstamp-5-793183

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=257307

I'm not saying I don't trust tomatocage but what's the deal with double standards and witch hunts?

Well, Krispy really is an actual person, though I admit I probably (accidentally) posted from his account as much as he actually did. Dude is a co-worker who was having some bad luck, so I rented out my guest room to him. Those coins that I escrowed for mysel.. oops I mean Krispy really were his coins though. Very convenient explanation, right? I wish it made for a more exciting story, but that's pretty much all there was to it.

 Roll Eyes
copper member
Activity: 2996
Merit: 2374
September 08, 2015, 07:01:41 PM
did you at any time escrow for yourself yes or no?
if no i'd remove my neg-rate. i trust you enough to be honest about that.

I don't sell coins, so no. Though if you wanted to make anything from it, I have released escrow using one of my exchange accounts since I don't always have access to my escrow box, and then simply pocketed the funds held in the actual escrow address.

removed, sorry for the misunderstanding then...
everybody is allowed to make mistakes (eg forget to logout)
You believed that over my explanation Huh

your explanation was that you dont want anybody to know your real address?
this is not an explanation... it is an excuse...you could just have just another escrow which is completely unrelated to any of your alts?
You really are not very smart.....How do you know that Panthers52 is not a co-worker of mine who needed a couch to sleep on for a few days, and wanted to buy some coins, and trusted me enough to hold escrow for him? How do you know that I didn't sometimes let him use my computer to access the forum, and that he might have sometimes left his account logged in, and I might have accidentally posted from that account sometimes with my own posting style?
legendary
Activity: 4004
Merit: 1250
Owner at AltQuick.com
September 08, 2015, 07:01:04 PM
Negative feed back left for QS, TC and Panther.

I can't believe no one else has stepped up to the plate on this.
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
September 08, 2015, 06:57:31 PM
Requested a refund from Quickseller and received it almost instantly with no complaints from him at all. Very trusted user in my book. Will definitely be dealing with him in the future. Definitely. Very cool guy. Doesn't deserve to be treated like he's trying to scam. That is most definitely not the case.
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 251
September 08, 2015, 06:54:27 PM
did you at any time escrow for yourself yes or no?
if no i'd remove my neg-rate. i trust you enough to be honest about that.

I don't sell coins, so no. Though if you wanted to make anything from it, I have released escrow using one of my exchange accounts since I don't always have access to my escrow box, and then simply pocketed the funds held in the actual escrow address.

removed, sorry for the misunderstanding then...
everybody is allowed to make mistakes (eg forget to logout)
You believed that over my explanation Huh

your explanation was that you dont want anybody to know your real address?
this is not an explanation... it is an excuse...you could just have just another escrow which is completely unrelated to any of your alts?
copper member
Activity: 2996
Merit: 2374
September 08, 2015, 06:52:01 PM
did you at any time escrow for yourself yes or no?
if no i'd remove my neg-rate. i trust you enough to be honest about that.

I don't sell coins, so no. Though if you wanted to make anything from it, I have released escrow using one of my exchange accounts since I don't always have access to my escrow box, and then simply pocketed the funds held in the actual escrow address.

removed, sorry for the misunderstanding then...
everybody is allowed to make mistakes (eg forget to logout)
You believed that over my explanation Huh
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 251
September 08, 2015, 06:35:16 PM
did you at any time escrow for yourself yes or no?
if no i'd remove my neg-rate. i trust you enough to be honest about that.

I don't sell coins, so no. Though if you wanted to make anything from it, I have released escrow using one of my exchange accounts since I don't always have access to my escrow box, and then simply pocketed the funds held in the actual escrow address.

removed, sorry for the misunderstanding then...
everybody is allowed to make mistakes (eg forget to logout)
legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 1222
brb keeping up with the Kardashians
September 08, 2015, 06:33:27 PM
I'm pretty sure that that explanation meant that TC did escrow for himself. Correct me if I'm wrong, of course.

You must have misread what I wrote and/or I wasn't clear enough Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 1222
brb keeping up with the Kardashians
September 08, 2015, 06:32:15 PM
did you at any time escrow for yourself yes or no?
if no i'd remove my neg-rate. i trust you enough to be honest about that.

I don't sell coins, so no. Though if you wanted to make anything from it, I have released escrow using one of my exchange accounts since I don't always have access to my escrow box, and then simply pocketed the funds held in the actual escrow address.
full member
Activity: 210
Merit: 100
September 08, 2015, 06:22:35 PM
Why the double standard?

Tomatocage did the same thing with his alt extraKrispy but he has seen as one of the most trustworthy people here

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sold-200-btc-bitstamp-5-793183

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=257307

I'm not saying I don't trust tomatocage but what's the deal with double standards and witch hunts?

Well, Krispy really is an actual person, though I admit I probably (accidentally) posted from his account as much as he actually did. Dude is a co-worker who was having some bad luck, so I rented out my guest room to him. Those coins that I escrowed for mysel.. oops I mean Krispy really were his coins though. Very convenient explanation, right? I wish it made for a more exciting story, but that's pretty much all there was to it.

did you at any time escrow for yourself yes or no?
if no i'd remove my neg-rate. i trust you enough to be honest about that.
I'm pretty sure that that explanation meant that TC did escrow for himself. Correct me if I'm wrong, of course.
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