Topic: Quickseller escrowing for himself - page 16. (Read 33609 times)

I would not be surprised honestly.

Hi, Vod! Thanks for your reply. I do understand where you are coming from however my experiences with Quickseller regardless of how negatively it may be viewed have been nothing but positive. Despite what he has done I still consider him trustworthy. He has earned this in my eyes through my dealings with him as an "escrow" and since it was his "alt" I dealt with, then fine. All of my deals which there were 3 with both hims went smoothly, so I trust him. That is all I have to say. This is too big a mess for me. I'm just a guy that's had good dealings with him. That's all. Thanks!

Oh that is because I reread your post, and saw that I was responding as if you had said something other then what you actually posted. Although as I mentioned above, I did delete one post

I under stand this but look on tomatocage's profile, he also left (undeserved) negative trust there which i think should be retracted quickly

If they take bayareacoins off the list it will show just how partial this forum is

Yes, an escrow should be a third party.

If you wanted to trade with a high ranking member for the security/trust/privilege it provides, trade with them directly.  Why pretend to have a third party?

Yes, you are deleting posts and we don't need Badbear to prove it.  Simply click on my (second) quote link above to see it goes no where.  You lie a lot dude.

Looks like BayAreaCoins left QS deserved negative trust.

QS has posted that leaving him negative trust (BayAreaCoins) will get you removed from Default Trust.

Let's see what happens.

I watched you come up and down Quickseller, time for me to lay my two cents down.  
 
You're either really incompetent or pretending to be so. To ask such questions, you must have no grasp over the most basic concept of trust.  
 
TC, is a very established member of this community. He has completed many deals, with physical and non physical items. Handled huge sums of money responsibly, never stole, never tricked somebody. Never caused any major trouble, near zero controversial actions. And he's been doing all that consistently since 2011.  
 
Whilst you, made this account in 2014. Started out as an account seller. Seemingly started gathering trust out of the blue. At some point, two people from default trust start having you in their trust list (that way putting you in default trust as well). People start complaining about unjustified negative trust comments from you. People made posts about you trying to solve your personal conflicts by taking advantage of the trust hierarchy that naturally benefited you. Now it's been proven that you tried to deceive people you deal with by escrowing for yourself. This way nullifying the sole purpose of your offered service. You tried to deceive people and make admins look bad by faking a ban. But you never backed down. Like a whiny teenager, you kept mashing that keyboard. You went into sleepless nights trying to defend your actions with faulty reasoning. And while an entire forum had turned against you, you were somehow added to default trust once more. I sincerely hope this is the last time you have to be removed from it.  
 
And to answer your question: He knows that Tomatocage is not lying because he trusts him.

IMHO if the escrow is honest and tells beforehand it is fine.
otherwise it is deceiving and kind of a lie.

btw definition of the word escrow: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escrow or http://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/escrow.asp or http://www.thefreedictionary.com/escrow
all say THIRD PARTY

so if it isnt a third party you are a liar

@Quickseller/Panther52:  Sockpuppetry is far less effective on the same thread where your alts are outed!

Nope. And you can ask BadBear this. (although I did delete one recent post when I had responded to something that I read incorrectly)

This is the first time I had asked BadBear of anything regarding this thread, so if someone had claimed that I said to ask him something they were lying.

You should look into how efficient markets work. You clearly do not have a clear understanding of how a rational person will act when trying to price a deal.

Where did you say what?  

Edit:  Ah, I see your deleting your old posts here.  Trying to make me look a loon posting to myself.   

I'm thinking out loud here, but does the escrow necessarily need to be a third party?

What if I want to trade with a higher trust alt of the person instead? I would imagine that people would pay extra for that privilege.

Even if you do use a third party that is a different physical person that person could still collude with the other person and scam you.

The problem is that the seller and escrow must not collude.

Does it really make a difference if they are the same person? it might increase the risk they collude but even that is kind of hard to say.

You drinking again?  Where did I claim you said you were giving refunds?     You posting on the correct alt?

LMFAO. I actually feel quite honored, in a very stupid way, just like you are I guess, since we all know your a special kinda kid. Good try though. Give it up, you'll never get it. Your reputation is shot. Pick up the pieces and move on like you have done to so many others before you. You are a disgrace to even accuse the almighty dooglus of being me. Idiot!

Edit. TSP is not this weeks scammer. You are, special kid.  

I don't think escrowing for yourself is OK.  An escrow should be a trusted THIRD party.

Charging a fee for a service you don't deliver is definitely a scam.

Where I said that I was going to give refunds to everyone.

I am the only one who sees the irony in the fact that one of the biggest trolls on bitcointalk.org who is more then clearly a scammer, who has been trying to make the scam prevention portion of the trust system worthless has managed to get two of the people who prevent the majority of the scams to be labeled as scammers.

It seems that tsp has succeeded in making it exceedingly easy to scam around here

Where you said what?