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Topic: [RE-ANN] ★CHE RevolutionCoin★ FIGHT COIN LAUNCH FAILS-Join the Revolution Now! - page 8. (Read 48452 times)

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You state that Humberto Fontova, someone who lived under the Cuban government, to be somehow unworthy of listening to. Umm...why? His scholarship on Che is extensive.
1. I never stated anything. I clearly stated the quotes were from replies to the article you submitted.
2. I would have to believe that Mr. Fontova's (a Cuban exile) opinion to be highly biased.

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So, in short, your other arguments are nearly as worthless as relying o the Cuban Ministry of Justice. Haahaahaaa -- that's still funny!
I guess because it is not your country then that means their government is wrong.

In closing, it is obvious your mind will not be changed and that is not my intention,
but to not allow others to make up their own mind is the exact thing you seem to be
complaining about. The continued misinformation and extremist belief that all must
believe your individual twisted representation of the truth, and only yours (and that of
a cuban exile and a random amazon reviewer) is fascist to the core.

Just sit back, pour another glass of kool-aid, turn on faux news, put on some
John Lee Hooker (or is that Jon Lee Anderson) and dream about how good
the 'merika dream was when dubya was president. Because if they say
bombing innocents and innocence is ok then it must be. And whatever you do,
do not look behind the curtain.

(and before you get any ideas...I am not a fan of obumba either...the last 2 have
helped wreck the US more than can be repaired for decades to come,
but the beginning of the problem was a century ago)

I am unsure you know what fascist means. You are aware that Che was a huge admirer of fascists aren't you? You are also aware that all fascists are socialists, aren't you? I mean you do have some vague idea who you are defending here don't you?

Isn't calling me a fascist a compliment from your perspective?

Yes, Jon Lee Anderson's biography needn't be read in full (so I will save you some time!) as there are quotes and passages all over this thing called the internet which describes exactly what I wrote. I don't understand what you are trying to get at. (Oh, and yes, I would prefer John Lee Hooker to Jon  Lee Anderson any day!).

You state that Humberto Fontova is highly biased because he is an exile. By that logic the Jews that escaped National Socialism Workers party (NAZI) running Germany were not to believed either? Is that your position? On second thought, I guess I already know your position, so no need to answer that one! Scary.



It is apparent your reading comprehension is severely lacking and most likely why you continue to be confused.

I never said believed. I said biased. Also, comparison of Hitler to Che is asinine. This coin's imagery represents
many revolutions including the US. I guess the US should have never revolted..is that what you are saying? because
it sure sounds like it.  So let me get this straight. You say believe only what you say and the very select minority
agreeing with your opinion, that only your country's gub'ment is correct and if someone disagrees then they are
to be lied about and portrayed as an anti-semitic. All the while, not presenting 3rd party sources of information for
an open discussion.

If that is not fascism's core then I don't know what is.

On the wiki page for fascism, Che is mentioned zero times...Castro is mentioned once to show that your opinion is incorrect:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
Contrary to the popular use of the term, Communist states have sometimes been referred to as "fascist", typically as an insult. Marxist interpretations of the term have, for example, been applied in relation to Cuba under Fidel Castro and Vietnam under Ho Chi Minh.[57] Herbert Matthews, of the New York Times asked "Should we now place Stalinist Russia in the same category as Hitlerite Germany? Should we say that she is Fascist?"[58] J. Edgar Hoover wrote extensively of "Red Fascism".[59] Chinese Marxists used the term to denounce the Soviet Union during the Sino-Soviet Split, and likewise, the Soviets used the term to identify Chinese Marxists.[60]

On amazon reviews for the book (4 stars), within the 16 reviews of the front page, There is only one review that mentions murder.
Can you do that math? But I guess they are all left wing reviewers as well. It is a big conspiracy I guess.
http://www.amazon.com/Che-Guevara-A-Revolutionary-Life/dp/080214411X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1393981732&sr=8-1&keywords=jon+lee+anderson+che

And, again, leave out all the quotes where you continue to be proven wrong time and time again.

You sound like a "right wing" war hawk rhino.  And if you didn't know, they are farther left than Kennedy was.
I bet you were for the patriot act too...well, because it said patriot it must be good. Your world policing ideas and mass murder that I am sure you defend are far worse. Where's the yellow cake?

I bet you believe the stories about the poppy growth explosion in Afghanistan being attributed to the US not having a big enough presence there as well.

I don't believe you would know what the US Constitution meant if it was read out loud to you, slowly.

Equal and exact justice to all men, of whatever state or persuasion, religious or political; peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none. -Thomas Jefferson

The problem with baby boomers is they can't admit that what they believed and taught their children was for the most part lies and disinformation because they couldn't read between the lines. And certainly would not question their gub'ment...just anyone else's.

Close the door on your way out.
Baaaa
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By that logic the Jews that escaped National Socialism Workers party (NAZI) running Germany were not to believed either?

First you deride Jews by belittling the Holocaust, now you using their harm to argue? Abhorrent.


Yes, finally you are seeing how bad these people are -- it's about time! Abhorrent is a good word for them!
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By that logic the Jews that escaped National Socialism Workers party (NAZI) running Germany were not to believed either?

First you deride Jews by belittling the Holocaust, now you using their harm to argue? Abhorrent.
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You state that Humberto Fontova, someone who lived under the Cuban government, to be somehow unworthy of listening to. Umm...why? His scholarship on Che is extensive.
1. I never stated anything. I clearly stated the quotes were from replies to the article you submitted.
2. I would have to believe that Mr. Fontova's (a Cuban exile) opinion to be highly biased.

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So, in short, your other arguments are nearly as worthless as relying o the Cuban Ministry of Justice. Haahaahaaa -- that's still funny!
I guess because it is not your country then that means their government is wrong.

In closing, it is obvious your mind will not be changed and that is not my intention,
but to not allow others to make up their own mind is the exact thing you seem to be
complaining about. The continued misinformation and extremist belief that all must
believe your individual twisted representation of the truth, and only yours (and that of
a cuban exile and a random amazon reviewer) is fascist to the core.

Just sit back, pour another glass of kool-aid, turn on faux news, put on some
John Lee Hooker (or is that Jon Lee Anderson) and dream about how good
the 'merika dream was when dubya was president. Because if they say
bombing innocents and innocence is ok then it must be. And whatever you do,
do not look behind the curtain.

(and before you get any ideas...I am not a fan of obumba either...the last 2 have
helped wreck the US more than can be repaired for decades to come,
but the beginning of the problem was a century ago)

I am unsure you know what fascist means. You are aware that Che was a huge admirer of fascists aren't you? You are also aware that all fascists are socialists, aren't you? I mean you do have some vague idea who you are defending here don't you?

Isn't calling me a fascist a compliment from your perspective?

Yes, Jon Lee Anderson's biography needn't be read in full (so I will save you some time!) as there are quotes and passages all over this thing called the internet which describes exactly what I wrote. I don't understand what you are trying to get at. (Oh, and yes, I would prefer John Lee Hooker to Jon  Lee Anderson any day!).

You state that Humberto Fontova is highly biased because he is an exile. By that logic the Jews that escaped National Socialism Workers party (NAZI) running Germany were not to believed either? Is that your position? On second thought, I guess I already know your position, so no need to answer that one! Scary.

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i see a lot of drama going on here, great to see ppl support the coin and the idea of revolution against the system and the government fiat.

Thanks for the support.  Some readers fail to realize, because they have not read the history of the coin to know, that RevolutionCoin is a revolt against current coin dev's and coin launch practices.  The imagery used is from multiple revolutions.
At least that is what it represents to me, others a free to form their own opinions. This is a community.

In regards to fiat, crypto in general is that revolt.  Feel free to help out with anything you might want to give a shot.
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I hardly thought I had to go further.....
No need for you to go further, you've already proven yourself to be a dumb cunt.


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Here are some of the comments that actually cite facts rather than conjecture.:
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"According to the Cuban Ministry of Justice, this latter extension was supported by the majority of the population, and followed the same procedure as those in the Nuremberg Trials held by the Allies after World War II.[102]"

I think that you are making a joke -- correct?

Your first citation as "facts" is from the Cuban Ministry of Justice! Bwaahaahaaahaaa., oh my... I need...to...catch...my...breath! Bwahaahaahaahaahaa!

Are you going to prove Hitler is innocent by quoting NAZI governmental papers too?!

You f---in' people are disgusting, and anyone who buys this coin is just helping these sickos out
.


And why would you purposely leave out all the other facts presented by neutral 3rd parties including established public news networks located in the US?

Your disinformation and brainwashing techniques, which I am sure you learn watching your favorite boob tube news channel, are now presented for all to see.

You are free to leave and spread your own fascist agenda somewhere else.


I hardly thought I had to go further. But if you insist. None of those other "facts" you make are in any way convincing. There are a lot of problems with the Jon Lee Hooker biography on Che, but if you have ever read it, you will know that he was a cold blooded killer. You point out one quote that is a little weaselly in its wording, but leave out many others.

You state that Humberto Fontova, someone who lived under the Cuban government, to be somehow unworthy of listening to. Umm...why? His scholarship on Che is extensive.

So, in short, your other arguments are nearly as worthless as relying o the Cuban Ministry of Justice. Haahaahaaa -- that's still funny!

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I hardly thought I had to go further. But if you insist. None of those other "facts" you make are in any way convincing.
These "facts" are presented by 3rd party journalist and historians. I guess you know better. I have put it out there for anyone to look at all sides and make up their own mind. You have continued to pick and choose what you want to present in order to lead readers a certain way. That is propaganda. Period.

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There are a lot of problems with the Jon Lee Hooker biography on Che, but if you have ever read it, you will know that he was a cold blooded killer.

1. John Lee Hooker never wrote a biography on Che. John Lee Hooker is a damn good musician though.
2. You have never read it (refer to point 1.) so you would not know, but thanks for letting us know someone's amazon review?
3. Again spreading disinformation. (refer to both points 1 & 2)

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You point out one quote that is a little weaselly in its wording, but leave out many others.
I have given everyone the opportunity to look into all of the history themselves. You, on the other hand, do not.

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You state that Humberto Fontova, someone who lived under the Cuban government, to be somehow unworthy of listening to. Umm...why? His scholarship on Che is extensive.
1. I never stated anything. I clearly stated the quotes were from replies to the article you submitted.
2. I would have to believe that Mr. Fontova's (a Cuban exile) opinion to be highly biased.

Quote
So, in short, your other arguments are nearly as worthless as relying o the Cuban Ministry of Justice. Haahaahaaa -- that's still funny!
I guess because it is not your country then that means their government is wrong.

In closing, it is obvious your mind will not be changed and that is not my intention,
but to not allow others to make up their own mind is the exact thing you seem to be
complaining about. The continued misinformation and extremist belief that all must
believe your individual twisted representation of the truth, and only yours (and that of
a cuban exile and a random amazon reviewer) is fascist to the core.

Just sit back, pour another glass of kool-aid, turn on faux news, put on some
John Lee Hooker (or is that Jon Lee Anderson) and dream about how good
the 'merika dream was when dubya was president. Because if they say
bombing innocents and innocence is ok then it must be. And whatever you do,
do not look behind the curtain.

(and before you get any ideas...I am not a fan of obumba either...the last 2 have
helped wreck the US more than can be repaired for decades to come,
but the beginning of the problem was a century ago)
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I hardly thought I had to go further.....
No need for you to go further, you've already proven yourself to be a dumb cunt.


Ah, some reasoned arguments from the fascist! It's so strange why people hate socialism isn't it? With arguments like that you guys will recruit new members into the movement like crazy!

Heil Cryptasm!
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i see a lot of drama going on here, great to see ppl support the coin and the idea of revolution against the system and the government fiat.
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Gamdom.com
I hardly thought I had to go further.....
No need for you to go further, you've already proven yourself to be a dumb cunt.

sr. member
Activity: 284
Merit: 250



Here are some of the comments that actually cite facts rather than conjecture.:
Quote
"According to the Cuban Ministry of Justice, this latter extension was supported by the majority of the population, and followed the same procedure as those in the Nuremberg Trials held by the Allies after World War II.[102]"

I think that you are making a joke -- correct?

Your first citation as "facts" is from the Cuban Ministry of Justice! Bwaahaahaaahaaa., oh my... I need...to...catch...my...breath! Bwahaahaahaahaahaa!

Are you going to prove Hitler is innocent by quoting NAZI governmental papers too?!

You f---in' people are disgusting, and anyone who buys this coin is just helping these sickos out
.


And why would you purposely leave out all the other facts presented by neutral 3rd parties including established public news networks located in the US?

Your disinformation and brainwashing techniques, which I am sure you learn watching your favorite boob tube news channel, are now presented for all to see.

You are free to leave and spread your own fascist agenda somewhere else.


I hardly thought I had to go further. But if you insist. None of those other "facts" you make are in any way convincing. There are a lot of problems with the Jon Lee Hooker biography on Che, but if you have ever read it, you will know that he was a cold blooded killer. You point out one quote that is a little weaselly in its wording, but leave out many others.

You state that Humberto Fontova, someone who lived under the Cuban government, to be somehow unworthy of listening to. Umm...why? His scholarship on Che is extensive.

So, in short, your other arguments are nearly as worthless as relying o the Cuban Ministry of Justice. Haahaahaaa -- that's still funny!
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Nethash increased over 2x in 24hrs.   Shocked
Keep it up.
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Here are some of the comments that actually cite facts rather than conjecture.:
Quote
"According to the Cuban Ministry of Justice, this latter extension was supported by the majority of the population, and followed the same procedure as those in the Nuremberg Trials held by the Allies after World War II.[102]"

I think that you are making a joke -- correct?

Your first citation as "facts" is from the Cuban Ministry of Justice! Bwaahaahaaahaaa., oh my... I need...to...catch...my...breath! Bwahaahaahaahaahaa!

Are you going to prove Hitler is innocent by quoting NAZI governmental papers too?!

You f---in' people are disgusting, and anyone who buys this coin is just helping these sickos out
.


And why would you purposely leave out all the other facts presented by neutral 3rd parties including established public news networks located in the US?

Your disinformation and brainwashing techniques, which I am sure you learn watching your favorite boob tube news channel, are now presented for all to see.

You are free to leave and spread your own fascist agenda somewhere else.
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You coming here and name calling, spouting lies and conjecture, attempting to sway the minds of others makes me believe
you are the fascist.  Please go back to your baby boomer generation that is the sole embodiment of what you say you hate.

Read the facts yourselves and make up your own mind: (Something JTB would rather you not do by giving you disinformation to his liking.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_Guevara



Well, I agree with you on one thing -- the baby boomers are closer to fascism then they think. They elected Obama didn't they?

Oh, and guess who does most of the editing on those Wiki pages you sent me to -- baby boomer leftists.

But even there it explains that Che was in charge of firing squads for "war criminals". Guess who was a war criminal? I'll give you a hint  -- anybody that disagreed with Fidel and Che!
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Here are some of the comments that actually cite facts rather than conjecture.:
Quote
"According to the Cuban Ministry of Justice, this latter extension was supported by the majority of the population, and followed the same procedure as those in the Nuremberg Trials held by the Allies after World War II.[102]"


I think that you are making a joke -- correct?

Your first citation as "facts" is from the Cuban Ministry of Justice! Bwaahaahaaahaaa., oh my... I need...to...catch...my...breath! Bwahaahaahaahaahaa!

Are you going to prove Hitler is innocent by quoting NAZI governmental papers too?!

You f---in' people are disgusting, and anyone who buys this coin is just helping these sickos out
.
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Back at 100MH/s now. Seems ppl getting tired of all these failed launches.



Great to hit the 100 mark  Grin

I think there is roughly 10 new or re-launches between now and Sunday.

Should be interesting to see how they go.
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No need to feed this guy- if someone compares Che with Hitler, there is zero understanding of history available. All discussions are useless. Beside that it is belittlement of the Holocaust, what many million ppl makes angry.

I was not trying to feed him, but it was partially necessary in order to get the facts out there, front and center.
They are apparently from a bygone generation that still believes in the ""red scare".
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No need to feed this guy- if someone compares Che with Hitler, there is zero understanding of history available. All discussions are useless. Beside that it is belittlement of the Holocaust, what makes many million ppl angry.
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