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Topic: Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s - page 27. (Read 96804 times)

legendary
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It's been almost a year since I placed my order, I need to move on.
hero member
Activity: 667
Merit: 500
I think the blame should fall equally on Nemesis for this, without Russian technical assistance they would not have got the quantity of orders they did. Those not-in-stock Bitfury boards were the lure to the site for me trying to buy them. Funny how they're all in-stock (used) now for cheap eh.

This asshole aka Alexey Andreev. is literally the only person at Black Arrow I've ever been able to talk to, but basically all he does is troll and threaten you.

FTFY

http://ru.linkedin.com/pub/alexey-andreev/12/29b/234

"Customer Support Director"

He's a director.

This guy is a real piece of work, it'd be absolutely hilarious dealing with this guy if this weren't such a financially tragic situation. He's the most inveterate con-artist you can imagine, when he actually responds to you, he learns how to talk to you based on the words and phrases you introduce to the situation yourself. He will literally say absolutely anything he needs to say to get you to accept this bullshit, including but not limited to threats and intimidation.
legendary
Activity: 3878
Merit: 1193
An X-3 earns maybe, what 1500, back if you're lucky before these tick over to net losers vs. maybe burning your house down and killing your wife, children, dogs, whatever.  It's not worth running it at this point.

One of the cheapest hosting for these is toomim. Monthly plan is $198 per X3 (2x $99). Monthly income at current difficulty is $300. These are barely net $100 per month profit. You'll be lucky to earn a few hundred bucks for a total ROI of about -95%.
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1038
I think the blame should fall equally on Nemesis for this, without Russian technical assistance they would not have got the quantity of orders they did. Those not-in-stock Bitfury boards were the lure to the site for me trying to buy them. Funny how they're all in-stock (used) now for cheap eh.

This asshole aka Alexey Andreev. is literally the only person at Black Arrow I've ever been able to talk to, but basically all he does is troll and threaten you.

FTFY

http://ru.linkedin.com/pub/alexey-andreev/12/29b/234

"Customer Support Director"

He's a director.
hero member
Activity: 667
Merit: 500
I think the blame should fall equally on Nemesis for this, without Russian technical assistance they would not have got the quantity of orders they did. Those not-in-stock Bitfury boards were the lure to the site for me trying to buy them. Funny how they're all in-stock (used) now for cheap eh.

This asshole aka Alexey A. is literally the only person at Black Arrow I've ever been able to talk to, but basically all he does is troll and threaten you.
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1038
"UV radiation in conjunction with enhanced melanocyte activation can lead to dark eumelanin production which can about affect the race of your anglo." -- Peptide Pros on eCoin Talk

This is the most up to date information on the status of my order I can find.

A word from Manu "Mathew" Keeram Panal the Indian subcontractor sourced to issue this latest Black Arrow weekly production update:

"Hi Users, I would like inform you that this domain [manu.pw] is owned by a single person, not an organization. I made this website from an already existing framework. I'm not a great programmer like the one who owns Google, Microsoft, Facebook, etc. I made this site to show them the real meaning of social networking. Now I'm seeing that I'm getting failed due to all who uses this website by insulting humanity. I myself maintaining this website. I'm not asking anyone to help me with some money and all. All I ask you all is to use it properly so that I could show Facebook, Google+, etc. with the real meaning of social networking. Also I request you all to be part of my movement by using it properly and by requesting your friends to join here. Manu"
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1038
I think the blame should fall equally on Nemesis for this, without Russian technical assistance they would not have got the quantity of orders they did. Those not-in-stock Bitfury boards were the lure to the site for me trying to buy them. Funny how they're all in-stock (used) now for cheap eh.
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1038
They're total parasites.
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 500
Remember this, BlackArrow?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3215902

"Yes, you are guaranteed to get a price 25% below the market price ($/ghash) at the time of shipment.
And yes, we will keep our prices below every other company.

Bottom line is, whoever trusts us now, we promise that will help them to mine profitably after February as well. If you keep supporting other companies who have ripped you off until now, you'll barely get your ROI back.


Unless Bitcoin mining stops because it becomes unprofitable for everybody else in February, our customers WILL make profit.”


Their loophole on this one is that while they still accept orders, they do not publicly publish prices anymore. You have to contact them to find out privately how much it's going to cost to have the privilege of perpetuating their Ponzi.



True, although all someone has to do is go to bitmain's site and pull the price on the S4, which I think is about 1250 for a 2TH/s unit.  "We will keep our prices below every other company"

If they refunded the difference, I'd be fine with that.  If they matched the $/Gh, I'd also be fine with that.  If they came within shouting distance of either I'd probably be fine with that.  If it looked like they were making an effort to do anything whatsoever except swallow our money and screw us up the ass I might be fine with that.

They've decided to act as if that promise was never made.  I'm not so fine with that.  If that's not a gigantic 'fuck you' to their customers then I don't know what is.  It's fraud, IMO, plain and simple.

And maybe they'll ship a 1Th/s module as compensation, without a power supply.  I say maybe as I don't think they will.  If they'd been planning on that I think they'd have been shipping them with the other units to save on the shipping cost.  It makes no sense that I can see to do it this way, as it costs them more money.  They're nothing if not penny-pinching assholes, so that, to me, is pretty indicative of the possibility that they don't intend to ever do it and never did.

Kind of like price matching and refunds.  Promised them all along and when it came time to deliver, boom, fuck you customers.

To this point they've made many promises to the aggregate customers.  I can't think of one they've actually kept when it came time to deliver on it.  Not a single one.  Lying cocksuckers to the core as far as I'm concerned.  
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1038
The last official post on the Black Arrow website.

"Please stop using all X3s immediately!" -- Date added: 08 Sep 2014

NOT A PROBLEM AS I NEVER RECEIVED MY X3.
hero member
Activity: 667
Merit: 500
Remember this, BlackArrow?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3215902

"Yes, you are guaranteed to get a price 25% below the market price ($/ghash) at the time of shipment.
And yes, we will keep our prices below every other company.

Bottom line is, whoever trusts us now, we promise that will help them to mine profitably after February as well. If you keep supporting other companies who have ripped you off until now, you'll barely get your ROI back.


Unless Bitcoin mining stops because it becomes unprofitable for everybody else in February, our customers WILL make profit.”


Their loophole on this one is that while they still accept orders, they do not publicly publish prices anymore. You have to contact them to find out privately how much it's going to cost to have the privilege of perpetuating their Ponzi.
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1038
February is only a few months away I don't think Black Arrow will make their target shipping date of February 24th at all.
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 500
Remember this, BlackArrow?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3215902

"Yes, you are guaranteed to get a price 25% below the market price ($/ghash) at the time of shipment.
And yes, we will keep our prices below every other company.

Bottom line is, whoever trusts us now, we promise that will help them to mine profitably after February as well. If you keep supporting other companies who have ripped you off until now, you'll barely get your ROI back.


Unless Bitcoin mining stops because it becomes unprofitable for everybody else in February, our customers WILL make profit.”
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 500
"UV radiation in conjunction with enhanced melanocyte activation can lead to dark eumelanin production which can about affect the race of your anglo." -- Peptide Pros on eCoin Talk

This is the most up to date information on the status of my order I can find.


Radiation of heat to surrounding objects can lead to fire, which will burn your house down and affect the lifespan of your anglo.

I couldn't give a shit about my order.  I'll never earn anything on these pieces of crap and a large percentage are defective right out of the box, and even more crap out within days, so even the most optimistic calculations are likely well short in most cases.  If it malfunctions the shipping to China makes it cost prohibitive to get it fixed, as if we should be responsible for that also.  There is actually no warranty if you think about it, which is just another mini-scam in the pile of scams that it is this project.

An X-3 earns maybe, what 1500, back if you're lucky before these tick over to net losers vs. maybe burning your house down and killing your wife, children, dogs, whatever.  It's not worth running it at this point.

They can take that piece of shit and shove it up their ass.  Doing that myself would be worth anything I'd actually earn from this piece of crap, so if Sovu will volunteer to allow me to shove an X-3 directly up his ass he can keep it.  I'll meet him at the next BTC conference and we can do it in their booth.  The world's first in-vitro BTC miner.
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1038
"UV radiation in conjunction with enhanced melanocyte activation can lead to dark eumelanin production which can about affect the race of your anglo." -- Peptide Pros on eCoin Talk

This is the most up to date information on the status of my order I can find.
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1038
meanwhile, back in may...

just call the police in berkshire. let them deal with it. do it ASAP.

you're welcome.

 Grin

I contacted my local commonwealth authorities back in May to be fair.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
meanwhile, back in may...

just call the police in berkshire. let them deal with it. do it ASAP.

you're welcome.
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1038
"The entire Balkan peninsula was annexed by the Ottoman Empire. However, Moldavia and Wallachia (extending to Dobruja and Bulgaria) were allowed a certain degree of temporary autonomy." -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanians

Maybe all these scam ASIC companies are an ISIS funding operation and economic warfare tactic all-in-one?

Someone should contact the Department of Homeland Defense.

Obviously it's a giant leap to say these guys were running this part of the world centuries ago to these guys are trying to re-build their fallen empire via ISIS and funding their operations in-part with Bitcoin scams. The image of these guys as all dark skinned camel riding rag-heads may be a bit off. Eastern Europe has a dark history and the residents are fair skinned.

I'm just putting out some wild speculation at this point.
jr. member
Activity: 40
Merit: 10
"The entire Balkan peninsula was annexed by the Ottoman Empire. However, Moldavia and Wallachia (extending to Dobruja and Bulgaria) were allowed a certain degree of temporary autonomy." -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanians

Maybe all these scam ASIC companies are an ISIS funding operation and economic warfare tactic all-in-one?

Someone should contact the Department of Homeland Defense.
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1038
Gotta love the miracle of Bitcoin, everybody can follow the money. An honest system of account if their ever was one.
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