Topic: Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s - page 56. (Read 96808 times)

I'd recommend everyone to submit a trust rating for blackarrow's website.
Install Web Of Trust if you don't already have it.
Go to blackarrowsoftware.com
Click the WOT icon. Rate it.
I gave them the lowest rating and chose the options "poor customer experience" and "scam"

Indeed. I just have a knack for alerting people to the situation. I just thought that it was quite novel to be accused of such things when I consider myself probably the most civil of their disgruntled customers. Still interested in seeing where I physically threatened anyone.
See update.

LOL Minersource is claiming that I flame and threaten them on the forums. This is hilarious. Would anyone care to show me an example of a post I've made that was flaming/threatening towards minersource? Oh, maybe I shouldn't make this post since it can be considered threatening, right? Lmao.. What a joke.
If I'm gonna be accused of such actions then maybe I should live up to the accusations.. But that would be childish and I won't stoop to their level. This company seems to enjoy making enemies.
See update.

A tip for people reposting deleted posts from BA: in your PM telling you that your post was deleted, click the "Reply with quote" link on the right (open in a new tab) and then copy it from there and paste here. This will allow the formating to be the same as the original post.

For your info, I had bought that over a month ago, before the S3 was even announced. I just reposted the post because BA decided to delete a bunch of my old posts. And I've already returned over 40% of my initial investment. Plus, I have free electricity, so IDGAF about efficiency.

The Titanic was loaded up with rich people and sunk as an insurance scam.

http://www.omgfacts.com/Interesting/There-s-a-conspiracy-theory-that-the-Tit/54649

Can you provide any updates to your legal proceedings?  Would love to hear their screams as you twist your finger on their open wounds.

But at what cost?  That, "little LCD" cost untold weeks of shipping deadlines missed to have it incorporated like that.  Yea its cool, and there is nothing else like it on the market, but there is a reason for that.  It is unnecessary and only adds expense to an item whose main job is to be as inexpensive as possible and provide the biggest return for its owner, something that the whole product line by BA fails to accomplish.

Wow,.. that's actually sexy, just makes me that much more sad that I'll never see my X3s before Halloween.

One ironic reality for me is that I've lost a huge amount of money on Bitcoins without actually involving any real BTC or even the Bitcoin protocol being used (paid in USD). Of course there's the possibility that they've been mining with hardware my money paid for and that there is some real BTC involved...

Is my BTC being used to buy hookers, drugs, sports cars, real estate and tropic island fantasy vacations?  

OK! If you really want to make it right by your customers, then start by answering some simple questions, I will try to keep them very to the point that should require short concise answers...

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We have always been upfront and never lied to our customers. We always kept them up to date with what is going on.

Why, when it was less than two months until February 28th, did you state numerous times that you were on track to meet your shipping targets, knowing full well that no tape out process has begun?

That is one instance, there are others that I or others could easily find.

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We are currently improving in every way and will be trying to make up towards our customers during the following months.

How can you justify, making it up to your customers in the coming MONTHS?  Your chips are already behind other manufacturers, and are only getting more outdated with each passing day.  The X-1 comp is already practically worthless, and the X-3 is approaching that point.
Do you honestly believe that any single customer will make back the bitcoin they spent on your machines?  And if so, please detail out how and why you think that?

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Most of our customers are entitled to be upset for this delay but we think the garbage going on in this thread is unacceptable and must be pruned.

Please point out where any person has lied or spread falsities about your company (besides yourselves).  Everything I have said is absolutely true, and has been based on either your actions or what you have said.  So I am unsure as to what, "garbage" you are referring to.

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The reason why we've tested on live pool is that cgminer --benchmark is buggy: reports the speed wrong (1.4Thash on X3) and does not turn on the SPI leds to confirm that the miner is working properly.

First time you have said this as an explanation.  Sure doesn't sound like the, "We always kept them up to date with what is going on." spirit.

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There are about 5 people flooding this that consider themselves to represent all our customers.

There have been many many customers of yours who have contacted me asking about what lawyers I have talked to and asking my opinion on what they should do.  MinerSource is so bled for cash that they are knowingly breaking the law in an attempt to stay alive by not sending out more refunds, because so many people have requested them.  I would say the proof is in the pudding so to speak.

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We have contacted them in private messages to check what is the status of their order and they have indeed been unable to provide us with a valid order number which led ourselves to believe that at least one must be funded by one of our competitor.

I have previously stated that I ordered through MinerSource and have since gotten a refund for all of my orders.  I am very happy with them, and commend them in putting up with this situation.  As previously stated, I did have an order with you, you screwed me and many others.  I am still unsure what, "competitors" you are referring to, as the real ASIC manufacturers laugh when they hear BFL or BA.  Also, why would I tell you if I had an order still pending with you guys?  You have threatened to without compensation for people who questioned you in the past, I can only imagine what you would do to my order that is still with you.

Here is a chance for you to answer some real questions from your customers.  I doubt you will, and will opt to run and hide and delete my post (which I will repost), but regardless, your, "apology" (which is another reason I am pissed, because until that post, you have never once taken credit for the failures of this venture, its always someone or somebody else), doesn't mean much without action.

OK! If you really want to make it right by your customers, then start by answering some simple questions, I will try to keep them very to the point that should require short concise answers...

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We have always been upfront and never lied to our customers. We always kept them up to date with what is going on.

Why, when it was less than two months until February 28th, did you state numerous times that you were on track to meet your shipping targets, knowing full well that no tape out process has begun?

That is one instance, there are others that I or others could easily find.

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We are currently improving in every way and will be trying to make up towards our customers during the following months.

How can you justify, making it up to your customers in the coming MONTHS?  Your chips are already behind other manufacturers, and are only getting more outdated with each passing day.  The X-1 comp is already practically worthless, and the X-3 is approaching that point.
Do you honestly believe that any single customer will make back the bitcoin they spent on your machines?  And if so, please detail out how and why you think that?

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Most of our customers are entitled to be upset for this delay but we think the garbage going on in this thread is unacceptable and must be pruned.

Please point out where any person has lied or spread falsities about your company (besides yourselves).  Everything I have said is absolutely true, and has been based on either your actions or what you have said.  So I am unsure as to what, "garbage" you are referring to.

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The reason why we've tested on live pool is that cgminer --benchmark is buggy: reports the speed wrong (1.4Thash on X3) and does not turn on the SPI leds to confirm that the miner is working properly.

First time you have said this as an explanation.  Sure doesn't sound like the, "We always kept them up to date with what is going on." spirit.

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There are about 5 people flooding this that consider themselves to represent all our customers.

There have been many many customers of yours who have contacted me asking about what lawyers I have talked to and asking my opinion on what they should do.  MinerSource is so bled for cash that they are knowingly breaking the law in an attempt to stay alive by not sending out more refunds, because so many people have requested them.  I would say the proof is in the pudding so to speak.

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We have contacted them in private messages to check what is the status of their order and they have indeed been unable to provide us with a valid order number which led ourselves to believe that at least one must be funded by one of our competitor.

I have previously stated that I ordered through MinerSource and have since gotten a refund for all of my orders.  I am very happy with them, and commend them in putting up with this situation.  As previously stated, I did have an order with you, you screwed me and many others.  I am still unsure what, "competitors" you are referring to, as the real ASIC manufacturers laugh when they hear BFL or BA.  Also, why would I tell you if I had an order still pending with you guys?  You have threatened to without compensation for people who questioned you in the past, I can only imagine what you would do to my order that is still with you.

Here is a chance for you to answer some real questions from your customers.  I doubt you will, and will opt to run and hide and delete my post (which I will repost), but regardless, your, "apology" (which is another reason I am pissed, because until that post, you have never once taken credit for the failures of this venture, its always someone or somebody else), doesn't mean much without action.

Sorry, except this one, this is one of my favorites. Smiley

HAHA BA's biggest cheerleader and self proclaimed liason between BA and the community, Jumbley, who got his X-3 first because, "he kept a cool head and worked with them instead of against them" has his for sale on Ebay.

http://ecointalk.net/topic/1228-jumbleys-x3/
Here is his post showing the miner in all its glory...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bitcoin-miner-Black-Arrow-Prospero-X-3-2000Ghash-second-/231300584172?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item35da96d2ec
Here is the same miner/picture on Ebay!  Pretty good feedback on the Ebay account, so I doubt it would be someone stupid enough to steal pictures to try and scam.  It most probably is him.

So BA, even your cheerleader's are jumping ship right after receiving their units, if that doesn't tell you they are trash IDK what will.  Oh maybe the fact that you won't refund and keep them yourselves, you don't even want your own shit.

Prizes to be delivered next week, no doubt.




I think the top 10 posts idea is a good one from BlackArrow.  I guess that goes to show that even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Here's My Top 10 Black Arrow Statements/Posts - some paraphrasing may be done.

1.  Next week.
2.  We have never misled our customers
3.  We raised most of the money from investors (but have none for refunds)
4.  Our ASIC will be profitable or no ASIC will be and all mining will stop.
5.  We think the bitcoin mining calculators are wrong.
6.  We are on time, or a little ahead.
7.  Someone is paying people to post on this thread to keep customers away from us.
8.  We've started the design in June. The only difference between us and our competitors is that we do not give unrealistic time frames which we know we cannot meet
9.  you are guaranteed to get a price 25% below the market price ($/ghash) at the time of shipment.
10.  whoever trusts us now, we promise that will help them to mine profitably after February as well. If you keep supporting other companies who have ripped you off until now, you'll barely get your ROI back.

For your info, I had bought that over a month ago, before the S3 was even announced. I just reposted the post because BA decided to delete a bunch of my old posts. And I've already returned over 40% of my initial investment. Plus, I have free electricity, so IDGAF about efficiency.

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A tip for people reposting deleted posts from BA: in your PM telling you that your post was deleted, click the "Reply with quote" link on the right (open in a new tab) and then copy it from there and paste here. This will allow the formating to be the same as the original post.

LOL Minersource is claiming that I flame and threaten them on the forums. This is hilarious. Would anyone care to show me an example of a post I've made that was flaming/threatening towards minersource? Oh, maybe I shouldn't make this post since it can be considered threatening, right? Lmao.. What a joke.
If I'm gonna be accused of such actions then maybe I should live up to the accusations.. But that would be childish and I won't stoop to their level. This company seems to enjoy making enemies.
See update.

Indeed. I just have a knack for alerting people to the situation. I just thought that it was quite novel to be accused of such things when I consider myself probably the most civil of their disgruntled customers. Still interested in seeing where I physically threatened anyone.
See update.

I got a Dragon Miner (1TH/s) for $1500 + shipping. Suck it, Blackarrow.