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legendary
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What do people think about adding a SMAS column as well, i.e. whether the campaign uses the blacklist?

This will help the spammers a lot, they can pick easily the best non-SMAS campaigns to join without being worried about the rejection of their candidacy
Definitely NO. (even that i don't agree 100% about the way some /1/ manager throw away the names there and neglect to answer - to be more precise his name doesn't start with L)
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 510
Dear me, I think I'm becoming a god
What do people think about adding a SMAS column as well, i.e. whether the campaign uses the blacklist? The BTCT account price estimator already uses it as well. I'm certain that there are some *cons* to this idea and that spammers / farmers will hate the thought of it, but I figured I'd just throw it out there.
As this thread was linked in the SMAS thread to show how "all" campaigns rely on SMAS now, I agree it would be worth pointing out whether or not a campaign supports SMAS.
We could do that either with an additional column, or with some color coding (for example: (Lime)green -> SMAS camapaign; Yellow -> Uses the SMAS list; Blue/black -> No status).
The color coding is such a useful idea that it can be used for other things as well like (a.) Warning for likely scam in PNYC (b.) Color assignment for different campaign managers; no color if there's no hired manager.
The SMAS thing is a waste of time, most users dont know what SMAS is and the rest dont care if a campaign uses it or not
copper member
Activity: 1498
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No I dont escrow anymore.
What do people think about adding a SMAS column as well, i.e. whether the campaign uses the blacklist? The BTCT account price estimator already uses it as well. I'm certain that there are some *cons* to this idea and that spammers / farmers will hate the thought of it, but I figured I'd just throw it out there.
As this thread was linked in the SMAS thread to show how "all" campaigns rely on SMAS now, I agree it would be worth pointing out whether or not a campaign supports SMAS.
We could do that either with an additional column, or with some color coding (for example: (Lime)green -> SMAS camapaign; Yellow -> Uses the SMAS list; Blue/black -> No status).
The color coding is such a useful idea that it can be used for other things as well like (a.) Warning for likely scam in PNYC (b.) Color assignment for different campaign managers; no color if there's no hired manager.

Do we really need to cram more information into the table? This is supposed to be an overview, which is why the detailed section was removed. SMAS or not is IMHO something for a detailed section, possible participants probably dont care about SMAS strong enough for it to be an initial indicator anyway, so it would be enough to know about it once they review the campaign thread. We already have a warning indicator, the red asterisk. The campaign manager is also only one click away should anyone care strongly about them.
legendary
Activity: 1008
Merit: 1059
What do people think about adding a SMAS column as well, i.e. whether the campaign uses the blacklist? The BTCT account price estimator already uses it as well. I'm certain that there are some *cons* to this idea and that spammers / farmers will hate the thought of it, but I figured I'd just throw it out there.
As this thread was linked in the SMAS thread to show how "all" campaigns rely on SMAS now, I agree it would be worth pointing out whether or not a campaign supports SMAS.
We could do that either with an additional column, or with some color coding (for example: (Lime)green -> SMAS camapaign; Yellow -> Uses the SMAS list; Blue/black -> No status).
The color coding is such a useful idea that it can be used for other things as well like (a.) Warning for likely scam in PNYC (b.) Color assignment for different campaign managers; no color if there's no hired manager.
full member
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copper member
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Goodbye, Z.
What do people think about adding a SMAS column as well, i.e. whether the campaign uses the blacklist? The BTCT account price estimator already uses it as well. I'm certain that there are some *cons* to this idea and that spammers / farmers will hate the thought of it, but I figured I'd just throw it out there.
As this thread was linked in the SMAS thread to show how "all" campaigns rely on SMAS now, I agree it would be worth pointing out whether or not a campaign supports SMAS.
We could do that either with an additional column, or with some color coding (for example: (Lime)green -> SMAS camapaign; Yellow -> Uses the SMAS list; Blue/black -> No status).



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Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns


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The following abbreviations will be used for campaigns (where applicable):
Campaigns:
Active||Currently active
PNYC||Payment not yet confirmed
FLUX||Campaign in flux between closed and accepting
CFNP||Closed for new participants
Term:     Ranks:
p/d||post/dailyL||Legendary Member
p/w||post/weeklyH||Hero Member
p/m||post/monthlyS||Senior Member
f/w||fixed/weeklyF||Full Member
f/m||fixed/monthlyM||Member
J||Junior
N||Newbie


All Bitcoin Signature Campaigns
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Campaign
legendary
Activity: 2674
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Terminated.
To be honest, I don't know how this campaign has become full in just a matter of less than 2 hours. I'd say the manager isn't as picky as other managers. It'd be really efficient for both ends (the manager and the users) if they would accept your offer to do escrow. People are doubtful of new ICOs because of the previous campaigns that scammed people especially this campaign is running for 2 weeks before they can confirm payment. 2 weeks of free advertising is more than enough for scammers.
They have probably spent zero (or extremely little amount of) effort in evaluating the candidates. This is the next campaign that is indirectly facilitating spam on this forum.

What do people think about adding a SMAS column as well, i.e. whether the campaign uses the blacklist? The BTCT account price estimator already uses it as well. I'm certain that there are some *cons* to this idea and that spammers / farmers will hate the thought of it, but I figured I'd just throw it out there.
legendary
Activity: 1008
Merit: 1059
New campaign has been appeared on the services section. The campaign is from orocoin. The thread is here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/full-orocoin-oro-signature-avatar-campaign-earn-upto-00012-btc-per-post-1738572 .

After completing the selection they have locked the thread which I think is not favorable.
To be honest, I don't know how this campaign has become full in just a matter of less than 2 hours. I'd say the manager isn't as picky as other managers. It'd be really efficient for both ends (the manager and the users) if they would accept your offer to do escrow. People are doubtful of new ICOs because of the previous campaigns that scammed people especially this campaign is running for 2 weeks before they can confirm payment. 2 weeks of free advertising is more than enough for scammers.

http://paste.ee/r/Irvrr Updated table on OP.
hero member
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Merit: 500
New campaign has been appeared on the services section. The campaign is from orocoin. The thread is here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/full-orocoin-oro-signature-avatar-campaign-earn-upto-00012-btc-per-post-1738572 .

After completing the selection they have locked the thread which I think is not favorable.

As far as I can see the thread is not locked, this looks another self moderated thread users should be careful. Plus there's no mention of escrow of funds. For me it's difficult though my rank is not supported, but no escrow and campaign manager makes me not keen to recommend but let's see how it goes for the users in the future. Would suggest people to ask for escrow or wait until some one gets paid, and they should answer why It was locked and now unlocked.

1: They locked thread first. but again unlocked for discussion purpose.
2: You must missed something. they are supporting Member Ranked users..
3: about escrow you are right. they don't have escrow and I saw when someone wasked about escrow they replied him that if he want escrow he can PM him.. lol.. looks like they'll use escrow for everyone individually if everyone ask. (means they don't even know how signature campaign escrows works)

Escrow?

PM me or Camosoul if you want to use escrow. Thanks.
From their words about escrow I think they do not know about escrow and do not know that how the escrow for a signature campaign work. They have to contact an expert signature campaign manager.
hero member
Activity: 2646
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New campaign has been appeared on the services section. The campaign is from orocoin. The thread is here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/full-orocoin-oro-signature-avatar-campaign-earn-upto-00012-btc-per-post-1738572 .

After completing the selection they have locked the thread which I think is not favorable.

As far as I can see the thread is not locked, this looks another self moderated thread users should be careful. Plus there's no mention of escrow of funds. For me it's difficult though my rank is not supported, but no escrow and campaign manager makes me not keen to recommend but let's see how it goes for the users in the future. Would suggest people to ask for escrow or wait until some one gets paid, and they should answer why It was locked and now unlocked.

1: They locked thread first. but again unlocked for discussion purpose.
2: You must missed something. they are supporting Member Ranked users..
3: about escrow you are right. they don't have escrow and I saw when someone wasked about escrow they replied him that if he want escrow he can PM him.. lol.. looks like they'll use escrow for everyone individually if everyone ask. (means they don't even know how signature campaign escrows works)

Escrow?

PM me or Camosoul if you want to use escrow. Thanks.

Ohh yaa, slipped it but wait a second did you check their rates that's 0.70 cents per post. What I can make in one month of signature campaign, I can make in a week there. In this high prices of btc how are they able to sustain it. I think this are the highest rates paid for members, it's tempting me no doubt but the individual escrow part is not enough for me till they actually do it. Will keep a watch for the future, till then I would suggest existing campaigners to wait. To Early to leave and join that campaign.
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1037
New campaign has been appeared on the services section. The campaign is from orocoin. The thread is here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/full-orocoin-oro-signature-avatar-campaign-earn-upto-00012-btc-per-post-1738572 .

After completing the selection they have locked the thread which I think is not favorable.

As far as I can see the thread is not locked, this looks another self moderated thread users should be careful. Plus there's no mention of escrow of funds. For me it's difficult though my rank is not supported, but no escrow and campaign manager makes me not keen to recommend but let's see how it goes for the users in the future. Would suggest people to ask for escrow or wait until some one gets paid, and they should answer why It was locked and now unlocked.

1: They locked thread first. but again unlocked for discussion purpose.
2: You must missed something. they are supporting Member Ranked users..
3: about escrow you are right. they don't have escrow and I saw when someone wasked about escrow they replied him that if he want escrow he can PM him.. lol.. looks like they'll use escrow for everyone individually if everyone ask. (means they don't even know how signature campaign escrows works)

Escrow?

PM me or Camosoul if you want to use escrow. Thanks.
hero member
Activity: 2646
Merit: 686
New campaign has been appeared on the services section. The campaign is from orocoin. The thread is here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/full-orocoin-oro-signature-avatar-campaign-earn-upto-00012-btc-per-post-1738572 .

After completing the selection they have locked the thread which I think is not favorable.

As far as I can see the thread is not locked, this looks another self moderated thread users should be careful. Plus there's no mention of escrow of funds. For me it's difficult though my rank is not supported, but no escrow and campaign manager makes me not keen to recommend but let's see how it goes for the users in the future. Would suggest people to ask for escrow or wait until some one gets paid, and they should answer why It was locked and now unlocked.
copper member
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1499
No I dont escrow anymore.
People interested can quickly find out what's the asterisk is about.
So you do agree there is a problem with Betcoin.AG, you just don't agree about how it is pointed out?
Well, if you put it this way than, yes I do see the problem Smiley and I don't agree about how it is pointed out.
We have to remember that 99% of red trust at betcoins profile are coming from resolved jackpot case, jason case, if I'm not mistaken.
It was huge for a moment because of how big the stake was, not the bad behaviour of the casino.

Betcoin did handle the issue rather unprofessionally and tried to gag the winner via contract. The person representing betcoin here is the same running the campaign, its - at least for me - reasonable that they would act similarly should issues with the campaign arise. Thats why I consider the warning left on the account as well as the campaign justified.
hero member
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Hire me for your campaign management.
New campaign has been appeared on the services section. The campaign is from orocoin. The thread is here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/full-orocoin-oro-signature-avatar-campaign-earn-upto-00012-btc-per-post-1738572 .

After completing the selection they have locked the thread which I think is not favorable.
legendary
Activity: 2324
Merit: 1267
In Memory of Zepher
We have to remember that 99% of red trust at betcoins profile are coming from resolved jackpot case, jason case, if I'm not mistaken.
It was huge for a moment because of how big the stake was, not the bad behaviour of the casino.
I have decided that the problem was at the games provider side, the betsoft, not the betcoin itself.
Regardless of who supplied the money for the jackpot, it was Betcoin that advertised such reward and therefore Betcoin's responsibility. Betcoin failed to deliver this reward, and therefore should not be trusted to deliver on any other reward. This rightfully shows in their feedback.
In addition, there are many more things wrong with Betcoin than just the jackpot issue. As a company, they are extremely shady at best.

All in all it's Mitchell's thread, its for him to decide. I just wanted to say that there is nothing wrong with betcoins signature campaign.
I don't think anyone will disagree that Betcoin's signature campaign is ran well in terms of payment, however it should still be marked red simply for it's trust.
hero member
Activity: 1638
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Bobby Fischer was right
People interested can quickly find out what's the asterisk is about.
So you do agree there is a problem with Betcoin.AG, you just don't agree about how it is pointed out?
Well, if you put it this way than, yes I do see the problem Smiley and I don't agree about how it is pointed out.
We have to remember that 99% of red trust at betcoins profile are coming from resolved jackpot case, jason case, if I'm not mistaken.
It was huge for a moment because of how big the stake was, not the bad behaviour of the casino.
I have decided that the problem was at the games provider side, the betsoft, not the betcoin itself.
So here I am, still wearing the sig.
All in all it's Mitchell's thread, its for him to decide. I just wanted to say that there is nothing wrong with betcoins signature campaign.
copper member
Activity: 1876
Merit: 1874
Goodbye, Z.
Because its all about signature campaign here, not the obvious trust issues.
What you advertise is as much a part of a campaign as how the campaign is run is.
Maybe you don't care about it, but a lot of people do.

Maybe more detailed warning about trust would do better, current *mark could be taken as misleading as its relates to campaign not the red trust.
People interested can quickly find out what's the asterisk is about.
So you do agree there is a problem with Betcoin.AG, you just don't agree about how it is pointed out?

It's not a matter of life or dead, I just wanted to provoke discussion about how extremely popular threads influence the rest of the forum. (no flame wars)
And it's good they got the mark.
hero member
Activity: 1638
Merit: 756
Bobby Fischer was right
-snip-

I agree its reasonable that coinroll gets an asterisk.

I dont agree that betcoin should get it removed, due to the issues with the service itself. You probably read the trust ratings left by the person running the campaign, so why do you think this should be seen separately?
Because its all about signature campaign here, not the obvious trust issues.
Campaign was never affected, never have had problems that's why I'm suggesting the change.
Maybe more detailed warning about trust would do better, current *mark could be taken as misleading as its relates to campaign not the red trust.
It's not a matter of life or dead, I just wanted to provoke discussion about how extremely popular threads influence the rest of the forum. (no flame wars)
copper member
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1499
No I dont escrow anymore.
I think Mitchell should remove the red mark * from signature that I'm wearing.
There where never any problems in the campaign itself.
No delays, no post miscalculations, no strange and unnecessary bans for participants.
Owner and manager never broke any promises or forum rules etc.
Its just an ordinary signature campaign, one of the best, if you ask me Smiley
I think its not fair that its the only one with special warnings. coinroll was a lot worse this month, with super delay and post summary problems, deserves warning more Tongue just saying. 

I agree its reasonable that coinroll gets an asterisk.

I dont agree that betcoin should get it removed, due to the issues with the service itself. You probably read the trust ratings left by the person running the campaign, so why do you think this should be seen separately?
hero member
Activity: 1638
Merit: 756
Bobby Fischer was right
I think Mitchell should remove the red mark * from signature that I'm wearing.
There where never any problems in the campaign itself.
No delays, no post miscalculations, no strange and unnecessary bans for participants.
Owner and manager never broke any promises or forum rules etc.
Its just an ordinary signature campaign, one of the best, if you ask me Smiley
I think its not fair that its the only one with special warnings. coinroll was a lot worse this month, with super delay and post summary problems, deserves warning more Tongue just saying. 
 
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