Topic: Recovery program beginning in January for PB Mining customers. - page 11. (Read 143904 times)
February 03, 2015, 02:13:15 AM
payouts at last sunday was from another adresses...for the first time I was paid form that adresses ...
February 02, 2015, 04:52:30 PM
It is interesting. Most customers got their usual dust, but a couple addresses got more.
For instance, the largest "normal" transaction got BTC0.18030331 to address 15wcWZ3qdadnvkJUshBmQNb9Ec3HJY5Wos. However, that address used to get tens of BTC per week and is quite possibly one of PBM's addresses anyway.
On top of that though, there's 3 payouts that are much higher.
BTC0.666 to 1S5jZoMaCAXU5ouCJUdqNqa91JyndhsKY
BTC2.0 to 1EypqcpArB8omVxPXWNG6nJmQB8VaY2VE1
BTC2.1 to 1BCNjdPdJpAVAJqPQjSZXXVWsky4tRbZe2
The 1BCN address appears to be a PBMining one based on this transaction paying 1BCN and a different 1PAYU address at the same time.
The other two appear to actually be PBM customers though. If that's the case, it's very interesting.
For instance, the largest "normal" transaction got BTC0.18030331 to address 15wcWZ3qdadnvkJUshBmQNb9Ec3HJY5Wos. However, that address used to get tens of BTC per week and is quite possibly one of PBM's addresses anyway.
On top of that though, there's 3 payouts that are much higher.
BTC0.666 to 1S5jZoMaCAXU5ouCJUdqNqa91JyndhsKY
BTC2.0 to 1EypqcpArB8omVxPXWNG6nJmQB8VaY2VE1
BTC2.1 to 1BCNjdPdJpAVAJqPQjSZXXVWsky4tRbZe2
The 1BCN address appears to be a PBMining one based on this transaction paying 1BCN and a different 1PAYU address at the same time.
The other two appear to actually be PBM customers though. If that's the case, it's very interesting.
Well, since 1BCN was used for this week's payout, I was right about it being one of PBM's addresses. That leaves the bonus payouts to galdur and MichaelNZ as the only "recovery" payouts made in January. It doesn't appear that any bonuses went out this week.
February 02, 2015, 03:20:26 PM
agreed with mrteel its not possible at all that pbm is doing refunds with any other addresses. cointelegraph even said that satoshi is only alowing pb mining 2 addreses for giving refunds out and hes not allowed to send refunds from different adresses
February 02, 2015, 02:16:29 PM
It is interesting. Most customers got their usual dust, but a couple addresses got more.
For instance, the largest "normal" transaction got BTC0.18030331 to address 15wcWZ3qdadnvkJUshBmQNb9Ec3HJY5Wos. However, that address used to get tens of BTC per week and is quite possibly one of PBM's addresses anyway.
On top of that though, there's 3 payouts that are much higher.
BTC0.666 to 1S5jZoMaCAXU5ouCJUdqNqa91JyndhsKY
BTC2.0 to 1EypqcpArB8omVxPXWNG6nJmQB8VaY2VE1
BTC2.1 to 1BCNjdPdJpAVAJqPQjSZXXVWsky4tRbZe2
The 1BCN address appears to be a PBMining one based on this transaction paying 1BCN and a different 1PAYU address at the same time.
The other two appear to actually be PBM customers though. If that's the case, it's very interesting.
For instance, the largest "normal" transaction got BTC0.18030331 to address 15wcWZ3qdadnvkJUshBmQNb9Ec3HJY5Wos. However, that address used to get tens of BTC per week and is quite possibly one of PBM's addresses anyway.
On top of that though, there's 3 payouts that are much higher.
BTC0.666 to 1S5jZoMaCAXU5ouCJUdqNqa91JyndhsKY
BTC2.0 to 1EypqcpArB8omVxPXWNG6nJmQB8VaY2VE1
BTC2.1 to 1BCNjdPdJpAVAJqPQjSZXXVWsky4tRbZe2
The 1BCN address appears to be a PBMining one based on this transaction paying 1BCN and a different 1PAYU address at the same time.
The other two appear to actually be PBM customers though. If that's the case, it's very interesting.
Well, since 1BCN was used for this week's payout, I was right about it being one of PBM's addresses. That leaves the bonus payouts to galdur and MichaelNZ as the only "recovery" payouts made in January. It doesn't appear that any bonuses went out this week.
February 02, 2015, 11:05:31 AM
The fact that there is "a formula" means you were ripped off.
The only formula should be coins mined/hashpower each person paid for. The whole thing is kind of moot because you would be fucked even if he had the hashpower he promised you wouldn't get what you paid in, but that still doesn't meaning sitting here and taking it (and encouraging others to to the same) is smart.
The only formula should be coins mined/hashpower each person paid for. The whole thing is kind of moot because you would be fucked even if he had the hashpower he promised you wouldn't get what you paid in, but that still doesn't meaning sitting here and taking it (and encouraging others to to the same) is smart.
Using a formula means no such thing and most of the manufacturers cloud mining services payout based on a formula. The formula is as follows:
Hash Rate * Block Reward * Seconds * 65535 / (2^48 * Difficulty)
which gives the average payout a miner should get. In other words, using the formula simply removes the variance involved in mining. From that value, the service then just has to subtract their maintenance fees.
The problem isn't that some scammers are also using the above mining income formula, the problem is that those scammers refuse to provide their part of the formula - their maintenance fees. That means that those scammers can pay you whatever they want.
February 02, 2015, 10:37:27 AM
The fact that there is "a formula" means you were ripped off.
The only formula should be coins mined/hashpower each person paid for. The whole thing is kind of moot because you would be fucked even if he had the hashpower he promised you wouldn't get what you paid in, but that still doesn't meaning sitting here and taking it (and encouraging others to to the same) is smart.
The only formula should be coins mined/hashpower each person paid for. The whole thing is kind of moot because you would be fucked even if he had the hashpower he promised you wouldn't get what you paid in, but that still doesn't meaning sitting here and taking it (and encouraging others to to the same) is smart.
February 02, 2015, 09:02:47 AM
how the heck are people getting small payments, when the ponzi is over?
Hes feeding people dust in the hope they maintain hope of a restart and dont go after him. Throw in a couple of larger payments to shills and it might even work
I would have thought he would offer a cut price settlement which if the customers agree frees him from any liabilities. These small payments doesn't make any sense.
Last week as well as the dust some people received an additional payment, in my case that was 2.0 BTC for galdur it was 0.666 BTC ... Those are only the 2 extra payments that we know of because we both chose to disclose it in this forum ... There are likely to be other people that received an extra payment that we have no knowledge of.
As has already been pointed out the subject of this thread is Recovery program beginning in January for PB Mining customers. Not completed during January or finished during January, but beginning in January ... Extra payments have been made, but so far no communication has come from PBM / Boyko to explain the reasoning behind those payments.
The PBM account has not been online since Jan 4 ... Mind you who can blame them, every time they are online all they get is endless streams of threats and abuse. I imagine that Boyko has created a new anonymous account so he can login and see what is being said, if he even cares about that and wants to see.
The next month or two are going to be important ... I continue to hope it will be positive, but I am prepared for it to not be.
Stop saying this. If they aren't paying you for the amount of hashpower you payed for, they are in breach. If they lied about how much they had, it's fraud. Don't sit there and let him pay you dust for 5 years while you get fucked, and more importantly, don't tell other people to sit there and take it.
I do not think this argument would hold up anywhere IMO.
Yes we paid for a certain hash power along with a set formula, and here's the clever bit, he changed the formula which I cannot find anywhere it states he cannot do this. Therefore he is still paying customers based on his revised formula of A + B = C so it's hard to find where the "breach" is.
Annoying? Yes, it's very annoying but I'm pointing out what I believe is the current situation.
One party to a contract cant just change the terms mid contract.
Your contract was for x GH not whatever he feels like paying now.
A certain pair of posters here come up with endless excuses for why wehat hes doing is actually OK. They also claim to have received extra payments. IMO its payment for services rendered in shilling.
At the end of the day its fraud. A failed Ponzi and you know whos involved. I suggest people take whatever action appropriate. Maybe even use some info on the shills as they appear to be involved too.
February 02, 2015, 08:45:40 AM
how the heck are people getting small payments, when the ponzi is over?
Hes feeding people dust in the hope they maintain hope of a restart and dont go after him. Throw in a couple of larger payments to shills and it might even work
I would have thought he would offer a cut price settlement which if the customers agree frees him from any liabilities. These small payments doesn't make any sense.
Last week as well as the dust some people received an additional payment, in my case that was 2.0 BTC for galdur it was 0.666 BTC ... Those are only the 2 extra payments that we know of because we both chose to disclose it in this forum ... There are likely to be other people that received an extra payment that we have no knowledge of.
As has already been pointed out the subject of this thread is Recovery program beginning in January for PB Mining customers. Not completed during January or finished during January, but beginning in January ... Extra payments have been made, but so far no communication has come from PBM / Boyko to explain the reasoning behind those payments.
The PBM account has not been online since Jan 4 ... Mind you who can blame them, every time they are online all they get is endless streams of threats and abuse. I imagine that Boyko has created a new anonymous account so he can login and see what is being said, if he even cares about that and wants to see.
The next month or two are going to be important ... I continue to hope it will be positive, but I am prepared for it to not be.
Stop saying this. If they aren't paying you for the amount of hashpower you payed for, they are in breach. If they lied about how much they had, it's fraud. Don't sit there and let him pay you dust for 5 years while you get fucked, and more importantly, don't tell other people to sit there and take it.
I do not think this argument would hold up anywhere IMO.
Yes we paid for a certain hash power along with a set formula, and here's the clever bit, he changed the formula which I cannot find anywhere it states he cannot do this. Therefore he is still paying customers based on his revised formula of A + B = C so it's hard to find where the "breach" is.
Annoying? Yes, it's very annoying but I'm pointing out what I believe is the current situation.
February 02, 2015, 08:38:19 AM
how the heck are people getting small payments, when the ponzi is over?
Hes feeding people dust in the hope they maintain hope of a restart and dont go after him. Throw in a couple of larger payments to shills and it might even work
I would have thought he would offer a cut price settlement which if the customers agree frees him from any liabilities. These small payments doesn't make any sense.
Last week as well as the dust some people received an additional payment, in my case that was 2.0 BTC for galdur it was 0.666 BTC ... Those are only the 2 extra payments that we know of because we both chose to disclose it in this forum ... There are likely to be other people that received an extra payment that we have no knowledge of.
As has already been pointed out the subject of this thread is Recovery program beginning in January for PB Mining customers. Not completed during January or finished during January, but beginning in January ... Extra payments have been made, but so far no communication has come from PBM / Boyko to explain the reasoning behind those payments.
The PBM account has not been online since Jan 4 ... Mind you who can blame them, every time they are online all they get is endless streams of threats and abuse. I imagine that Boyko has created a new anonymous account so he can login and see what is being said, if he even cares about that and wants to see.
The next month or two are going to be important ... I continue to hope it will be positive, but I am prepared for it to not be.
Stop saying this. If they aren't paying you for the amount of hashpower you payed for, they are in breach. If they lied about how much they had, it's fraud. Don't sit there and let him pay you dust for 5 years while you get fucked, and more importantly, don't tell other people to sit there and take it.
February 02, 2015, 07:37:19 AM
how the heck are people getting small payments, when the ponzi is over?
Hes feeding people dust in the hope they maintain hope of a restart and dont go after him. Throw in a couple of larger payments to shills and it might even work
I would have thought he would offer a cut price settlement which if the customers agree frees him from any liabilities. These small payments doesn't make any sense.
Last week as well as the dust some people received an additional payment, in my case that was 2.0 BTC for galdur it was 0.666 BTC ... Those are only the 2 extra payments that we know of because we both chose to disclose it in this forum ... There are likely to be other people that received an extra payment that we have no knowledge of.
As has already been pointed out the subject of this thread is Recovery program beginning in January for PB Mining customers. Not completed during January or finished during January, but beginning in January ... Extra payments have been made, but so far no communication has come from PBM / Boyko to explain the reasoning behind those payments.
The PBM account has not been online since Jan 4 ... Mind you who can blame them, every time they are online all they get is endless streams of threats and abuse. I imagine that Boyko has created a new anonymous account so he can login and see what is being said, if he even cares about that and wants to see.
The next month or two are going to be important ... I continue to hope it will be positive, but I am prepared for it to not be.
February 02, 2015, 07:07:53 AM
how the heck are people getting small payments, when the ponzi is over?
Hes feeding people dust in the hope they maintain hope of a restart and dont go after him. Throw in a couple of larger payments to shills and it might even work
I would have thought he would offer a cut price settlement which if the customers agree frees him from any liabilities. These small payments doesn't make any sense.
February 02, 2015, 06:34:14 AM
how the heck are people getting small payments, when the ponzi is over?
Hes feeding people dust in the hope they maintain hope of a restart and dont go after him. Throw in a couple of larger payments to shills and it might even work
By paying MichaelNZ and me he´s just pissing off some garbage around here. I hope he does more of it. The more it lost the better.
Did anyone else get an extra bonus payment this payout cycle ?
February 02, 2015, 04:14:07 AM
HP?
February 02, 2015, 03:46:33 AM
how the heck are people getting small payments, when the ponzi is over?
Hes feeding people dust in the hope they maintain hope of a restart and dont go after him. Throw in a couple of larger payments to shills and it might even work
By paying MichaelNZ and me he´s just pissing off some garbage around here. I hope he does more of it. The more it lost the better.
February 02, 2015, 03:31:18 AM
Ok,
it is February and no recovery and I doubt, there will come one.
Anybody knows some "nice guys" in the near of Jasons Hometown,
that want to earn some BTC?
it is February and no recovery and I doubt, there will come one.
Anybody knows some "nice guys" in the near of Jasons Hometown,
that want to earn some BTC?
February 02, 2015, 03:17:12 AM
how the heck are people getting small payments, when the ponzi is over?
Hes feeding people dust in the hope they maintain hope of a restart and dont go after him. Throw in a couple of larger payments to shills and it might even work
February 02, 2015, 02:45:04 AM
how the heck are people getting small payments, when the ponzi is over?
February 02, 2015, 02:11:01 AM
this payment was smaller than last week...
February 02, 2015, 01:57:07 AM
whats weird is im still getting paid by pbmining, but very little. lolol.
February 01, 2015, 10:29:33 PM
You are a thief, a person without making promises. Where is the recovery plan. You really bad.
A pig bad!
Customer #: 17074
A pig bad!
Customer #: 17074
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