Topic: Recovery program beginning in January for PB Mining customers. - page 57. (Read 143950 times)

I am not defending Jason, I am just trying to work out what case we have.  What did the contract say?  What were the terms?

"I met a bloke in a bar who said for $1000 he would cloud mine bit coins for me, but he didn't" versus "I have a cloud mining contract between me and Jason which he has clearly defaulted on".  One would stand up in court and one would be laughed out the door.  We paid in Btc and got paid back in Btc.  Do any legal systems even count that as money?

#justsaying

the contract was that you would PAY for cloud mining hashes.

it's fraud.

FWIW i have a couple of contracts under a couple of names and they both got payments last night.  Both were 60Ghz and got 0.000242 each.  Roughly 10% of what they got last week.  A couple for 5 or 6 Ghs did not.  I think the amounts were probably what the formula was predicting.  

Silly question, but was there some sort of EULA/contract we had to agree to stating what the terms were when we signed up?  I don't remember one.  If we can't actually say "this is what was agreed between us and Jason" then I'm not sure what sort of claim we have?

FWIW i have a couple of contracts under a couple of names and they both got payments last night.  Both were 60Ghz and got 0.000242 each.  Roughly 10% of what they got last week.  A couple for 5 or 6 Ghs did not.  I think the amounts were probably what the formula was predicting.  

Silly question, but was there some sort of EULA/contract we had to agree to stating what the terms were when we signed up?  I don't remember one.  If we can't actually say "this is what was agreed between us and Jason" then I'm not sure what sort of claim we have?

So, there is a possibility that a huge partner of his ended their relationship as a result of some blackmail threat which was executed, as suggested. And why not suspecting a competitor?

so i guess moving "heaven and earth" doesn't include a post explaining what is going on, besides the one where face book broke his mining farm.. is that how mosas parted the red sea   lol

NICE JOB. THANK YOU. WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THIS IS YOU REPORTED BACK NEW INFO. YOU GAVE US THE POSITIVE INFO. WE FEEL RENEWED AND WE CAN SEE THIS MOVING FORWARD. IF WE ALL KEEP CALLING AND ENCOURAGE THE POLICE TO ACT WE WILL SEE SOME RESULTS. LETS GET 100 CALLS.

Howdy,

I've held off on commenting until now but I'm mighty angry with all of this.

I've got 985Ghs, not huge but a significant amount for me.

I'll resist getting publicly obnoxious but I want info Mr PBMining.

Explain why our payments have dropped, explain where the coins have gone and explain what you are doing to fix this.

As others  have already said Facebook didn't hack your miners and that's one of the lamest excuses I've ever heard and I've heard quite a few.

You presented as a legitimate, insured business. Act like one.

I always supported PBMining but unfortunately I now think this was a ponzi and here is why I think this: it is too big of a coincidence that PBMining collapsed after a series of very low difficulty increase and a difficulty decrease. When the difficulty was up, people were not able to recoup their investment because of this and PBMining just gave you back, week after week, part of your investment. You would have lost money but you would have been "happy" because this was the difficulty's fault. The profit he was making was needed to pay the clients who, through referral link, got more GHS than what they paid.

There was no catastrophe. There's nothing to recover from. He's a scammer that is worried that he'll go to jail. That's the only reason he's doing anything.

Well, at least payments, however low they may be currently, are still coming. For them trolls who keep hammering that PB is a scam, I don't know of any scammer who has ever been that dedicated to supporting his customers, obviously moving heaven and earth to recover from whatever catastrophe happened.

I think everybody should just calm down and let him work his problem. Insulting him will certainly not help.

My interest in PB Mining is I have 900 GHs tied up in it and didn't receive my full payment this week, but instead received 10% of what I was expecting. I normally receive about 0.064 bitcoins per week and have been plowing the proceeds back into purchasing more Ghs whenever I surpassed the minimum amount of Ghs that was purchasable. Honestly I did suspect all along that PB Mining was a ponzi scheme, but wanted to give it the benefit of the doubt. I suspected it as such as for awhile because they had by far, as far as I could tell, the lowest charge per GHs for virtual online mining. I continued using them as they seemed to be the only one whose returns and price for GHs was worth investing in the get a healthy return, but I was kind of waiting for the other shoe to drop because comparatively speaking in contrast to other online ming sites, they were a bargain. I can see I don't have that much tied up in Bitcoin mining compared some others on this site. I see it as a hobby and this is a definite lesson learned. However, it would be nice to get back at least some refund. Comparatively speaking I'm certainly very far from wealthy. More like just subsisting. But I get by.


Called over there Sunday Evening and got a nice policewoman. I didn't expect much but she does know what bitcoins are. She says that we should call Staff Sergeant Tim Failler directly on Monday. His direct line is 306-975-8348. He is in charge of Economic and Stolen Auto crimes. His assistant can also takes calls. His/her number is 306-975-8243. This site confirms the assistant's number: http://police.saskatoon.sk.ca/contact/. Maybe call there first. The policewoman reported they will be in from 8 AM to about 4 PM Saskatoon time (Central Standard Time). She reported Sgt Failler may be in earlier than 8 AM, the assistant though will be in at 8 (CST).

Here is a picture of Sgt Failler: https://www.facebook.com/SaskatoonPolice/photos/pb.122212177802054.-2207520000.1417193303./836569049699693/?type=1. I'm not sure if he is the one on the left or the right.

I would advise against filing an online report here: http://police.saskatoon.sk.ca/onlinereporting/. One of the criteria for being able to filing online is there are no known suspects, but there is a suspect Jason Boyko right?

By the way, Jason's legal name may be Dave or is it the other way around, that Dave is an alias? See: http://www.lifenews.ca/announcement/4026856-boyko-garry.

Update: There are listings for Dave Boyko and D Boyko in Saskatoon if you look in Canada's Whitepages. I originally posted the phone numbers and addresses but I think that is too inflammatory and you can look them up if you are so inclined. As I said before, Dave Boyko or D Boyko may not be Jason Boyko, so don't take out your frustrations on either of those persons or do anything criminal without or even with proof.

For everybody's info, Jason does not appear to have a criminal record of Fraud in Saskatchewan or really much of any record, just an old traffic violation and a case where someone apparently assaulted him, not the reverse: http://www.canlii.org/en/sk/#search/jId=sk&all=Jason%20Boyko. There appears to be no record for Dave Boyko, so maybe Jason is his real name and the Dave thing is an alias. There are no other criminal records for Jason Boyko in Canada in other provinces as far as I can tell. At least that is using the http://www.canlii.org/ site.

How old are the people that keep accusing PBMining of being a scam? I assume you were publicly educated since you seem to have no understanding of innocence until proof of guilt.

I will agree that things look bad. And I lean toward believing that we won't be getting paid what our contracts promise, or even significant compensation.

That said, I have some experience. I've been "scammed," and I have been in situations like this, that looked like it was a scam but then worked out. In fact it just happened recently when a guy on BTCJam borrowed 50 BTC and then after making his first payment we didn't here from him until he was a few days past due on his second payment. A friend of his got on and said he'd been in an accident and several people started screaming "scammer!" These people had all the same crap to say that the accusers here have to say. Guess what. They were completely wrong. The guy payed back the full loan, with interest a day or two later.

Many of you argue "if they would just communicate better we would believe them." But that is complete bullshit. You would pick apart any information given and find the way they could still be scamming. I'm not saying the lack of communication is the right thing to do, just that I understand why they aren't answering your every fucked up accusatory question. Especially if they really are dealing a life threatening situation.

The fact that there was a payout today gives me a little hope that we may see a "recovery." But I'm an optimist. Note that PBMining has over 10,000 customers (going by the customer numbers) so $200,000 would only be a small payout to all of those. $200,000 / 10,000 = $20 average payout. I got roughly $7, but I'm not a huge customer.