Topic: Recovery program beginning in January for PB Mining customers. - page 53. (Read 143950 times)
December 16, 2014, 01:32:52 PM
whoa, now bitcoin cloud services drops it's contracts to a year, the blue pig
December 16, 2014, 12:18:17 PM
Thanks to everyone who filled out the google form.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1JJwD4agNpgAbHpXdN936iAESZgHtstTcYIuD5_Dcbb0/viewform
I'm compiling the information and I still have some holes in it that I'm filling. Specifically, if you are an early customers (march or before) I'd love to get some more data on that time period.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1JJwD4agNpgAbHpXdN936iAESZgHtstTcYIuD5_Dcbb0/viewform
I'm compiling the information and I still have some holes in it that I'm filling. Specifically, if you are an early customers (march or before) I'd love to get some more data on that time period.
December 16, 2014, 12:14:56 PM
speaking of other ponzis, you guys know if that site called coinminer.com is a ponzi?
this site right here https://cloudminr.io/
i wish there was a excel spread sheet on listed ponzi.
this site right here https://cloudminr.io/
i wish there was a excel spread sheet on listed ponzi.
Check my sig.
December 16, 2014, 11:48:36 AM
speaking of other ponzis, you guys know if that site called coinminer.com is a ponzi?
this site right here https://cloudminr.io/
i wish there was a excel spread sheet on listed ponzi.
this site right here https://cloudminr.io/
i wish there was a excel spread sheet on listed ponzi.
December 16, 2014, 11:01:13 AM
Man ponzis everywhere, choose your poison: Zeusminer, Moolah, Pbmining, who's next? 
Just wait and see mate
My predict soon another ponzi will down
they take btc for new years holiday
Wow, you must be a psychic, considering that saying a ponzi will fail soon, is like saying the sun will rise in the am.
December 16, 2014, 09:41:31 AM
...all the way to Mexico.
December 16, 2014, 08:34:52 AM
I would imagine that like most countries including here in New Zealand the police force is a blunt instrument of state.
Given the potential scale of the alleged offending, I believe the investigation would best be handled by an appropriate Government body.
New Zealand has two ... The Serious Fraud Office who deal with primarily criminal fraud of large scale and value and The Commerce Commission who deal with corporate illegality and crime.
I imagine that there are similar bodies in Canada who will have far wider powers of investigation than the local police would. That is where we should direct our complaints.
Is there a Canadian here with some knowledge to share ?
Given the potential scale of the alleged offending, I believe the investigation would best be handled by an appropriate Government body.
New Zealand has two ... The Serious Fraud Office who deal with primarily criminal fraud of large scale and value and The Commerce Commission who deal with corporate illegality and crime.
I imagine that there are similar bodies in Canada who will have far wider powers of investigation than the local police would. That is where we should direct our complaints.
Is there a Canadian here with some knowledge to share ?
RCMP Anti-fraud would be the highest you could go, aside from contacting CSIS which would not be suitable for this.
RCMP is the Canadian equivalent to the FBI, I guess. Smaller towns have RCMP as city police, but they are actually federal police.
You could try contacting his MP or MPP, but it probably wouldn't be very helpful.
The other way I guess would be to contact the head office of the RCMP and ask them where they think you should direct your call. Another option would be to call "crimestoppers" though I'm not sure if that would be of much help. Contacting the BBB is useless, but if he has a real business in Saskatchewan you might be able to contact his local Chamber of Commerce.
I'm just coming up with anything that might help at this point. RCMP are the best people to contact in this situation. Unless you know some Warriors, he definitely doesn't want them looking for him.
December 16, 2014, 06:49:57 AM
PM'd, not that I expect a response, I did not put in more than I could afford to loose luckily.
December 16, 2014, 04:20:49 AM
Am I right guessing the 5 and 6 GHs contracts where much older than the 60GH ?
The 5 was my original toe in the water. The 6 was much newer than the 60 but was a piggy back bonus.
December 16, 2014, 04:14:22 AM
FWIW i have a couple of contracts under a couple of names and they both got payments last night. Both were 60Ghz and got 0.000242 each. Roughly 10% of what they got last week. A couple for 5 or 6 Ghs did not. I think the amounts were probably what the formula was predicting.
Silly question, but was there some sort of EULA/contract we had to agree to stating what the terms were when we signed up? I don't remember one. If we can't actually say "this is what was agreed between us and Jason" then I'm not sure what sort of claim we have?
Silly question, but was there some sort of EULA/contract we had to agree to stating what the terms were when we signed up? I don't remember one. If we can't actually say "this is what was agreed between us and Jason" then I'm not sure what sort of claim we have?
So the 5 and 6Ghs were frozen last week but the 60Ghs got a payout this week. Anyone with less than 50 or 10 Ghs get a payout? I wonder what the cut off point is?
Could he still be paying out to cover his backside? All the while he is delivering (albeit at a reduced rate) he is still in business and we have less of an argument.
Am I right guessing the 5 and 6 GHs contracts where much older than the 60GH ?
As for the original contract, here ya go:
Quote
There are no mining pool fees to the customer. We cover our own mining fees from our pool workers which the customer will never have to see.
Instead, the customer is payed based on this fixed formula, taken right from our PHP script:
$per24 = ($totalHashingPower * 25 / $difficulty) * (60 * 60 * 24 * 65535 * pow(10,6) / pow(2,48));
This formula is standard with all Bitcoin Profit Calculators.
https://bitcointa.lk/threads/pb-mining-5-year-mining-contracts.238321/page-7#post-4610327Instead, the customer is payed based on this fixed formula, taken right from our PHP script:
$per24 = ($totalHashingPower * 25 / $difficulty) * (60 * 60 * 24 * 65535 * pow(10,6) / pow(2,48));
This formula is standard with all Bitcoin Profit Calculators.
The post was later edited and replaced with "A+B=C" or something along those lines, but you cant just retroactively change a contract.
December 16, 2014, 04:06:47 AM
FWIW i have a couple of contracts under a couple of names and they both got payments last night. Both were 60Ghz and got 0.000242 each. Roughly 10% of what they got last week. A couple for 5 or 6 Ghs did not. I think the amounts were probably what the formula was predicting.
Silly question, but was there some sort of EULA/contract we had to agree to stating what the terms were when we signed up? I don't remember one. If we can't actually say "this is what was agreed between us and Jason" then I'm not sure what sort of claim we have?
Silly question, but was there some sort of EULA/contract we had to agree to stating what the terms were when we signed up? I don't remember one. If we can't actually say "this is what was agreed between us and Jason" then I'm not sure what sort of claim we have?
So the 5 and 6Ghs were frozen last week but the 60Ghs got a payout this week. Anyone with less than 50 or 10 Ghs get a payout? I wonder what the cut off point is?
Could he still be paying out to cover his backside? All the while he is delivering (albeit at a reduced rate) he is still in business and we have less of an argument.
yeah i also think he is planning in that way, BUT we pay for full GHS and not 10% of these GHS. It is still illegal
December 16, 2014, 04:03:31 AM
FWIW i have a couple of contracts under a couple of names and they both got payments last night. Both were 60Ghz and got 0.000242 each. Roughly 10% of what they got last week. A couple for 5 or 6 Ghs did not. I think the amounts were probably what the formula was predicting.
Silly question, but was there some sort of EULA/contract we had to agree to stating what the terms were when we signed up? I don't remember one. If we can't actually say "this is what was agreed between us and Jason" then I'm not sure what sort of claim we have?
Silly question, but was there some sort of EULA/contract we had to agree to stating what the terms were when we signed up? I don't remember one. If we can't actually say "this is what was agreed between us and Jason" then I'm not sure what sort of claim we have?
So the 5 and 6Ghs were frozen last week but the 60Ghs got a payout this week. Anyone with less than 50 or 10 Ghs get a payout? I wonder what the cut off point is?
Could he still be paying out to cover his backside? All the while he is delivering (albeit at a reduced rate) he is still in business and we have less of an argument.
December 16, 2014, 02:54:22 AM
Man ponzis everywhere, choose your poison: Zeusminer, Moolah, Pbmining, who's next?
Just wait and see mate
My predict soon another ponzi will down
they take btc for new years holiday
December 16, 2014, 02:37:16 AM
Man ponzis everywhere, choose your poison: Zeusminer, Moolah, Pbmining, who's next?
Just wait and see mate
My predict soon another ponzi will down
they take btc for new years holiday
December 16, 2014, 02:35:52 AM
Man ponzis everywhere, choose your poison: Zeusminer, Moolah, Pbmining, who's next?
December 16, 2014, 02:24:07 AM
STUFF THE TURKEY'S ARSE WITH HOLLY FA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA
December 16, 2014, 01:39:57 AM
R.I.P Pbmining
December 15, 2014, 09:51:28 PM
youre comparing such a huge difference on how madoff pulled off his ponzi. but yeah i get it, pbmining did the same thing.
but if you total up the sums of how much of his clients were stolen, his ponzi did a huge amount of money compared to this small pbmining ponzi.
A Ponzi is a Ponzi. Does the total dollar amount lost really matter? There are probably are a few people who lost everything they had to PBMining. And when GAW finally fails, many more will suffer.
December 15, 2014, 09:40:20 PM
youre comparing such a huge difference on how madoff pulled off his ponzi. but yeah i get it, pbmining did the same thing.
but if you total up the sums of how much of his clients were stolen, his ponzi did a huge amount of money compared to this small pbmining ponzi.
December 15, 2014, 08:59:07 PM
Ponzi collapses and Kübler-Ross model sets in in at varying speeds for different people: denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. Many still seem stuck in phase 1.
+1
Note to SELF : Now you might find it helpful, when / if feeling 'stuck', to take into Consideration the following :
“Don’t be afraid to cry. It will free your mind of sorrowful thoughts”
(Native American proverb, Hopi)
And you can then move THROUGH the Stages of Your Grief ...
that last face suits me right about now.
im in the stage of acceptance.. im just going to move on cause the more i think about it, i just want to punch the wall.
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